20-Nov-91 5:26:48-GMT,13231;000000000001 Received: by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09214; Wed, 20 Nov 91 00:25:54 EST Date: Wed, 20 Nov 91 00:25:54 EST Message-Id: <9111200525.AA09214@aramis.rutgers.edu> Errors-To: owner-ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #52 ecto, Number 52 Wednesday, 20 November 1991 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Personal stats True Confessions Replies and ramblings Who cares about simple harmonic oscilators anyway? Re: True Confessions (fwd) well, actually, mostly to Vickie ======================================================================== My apologies for the bounced messages! Please re-send anything that bounced. The condition was caused by me hurrying a bit too fast while up in Boston. But greg and I recorded a great song! Mebbe (with his permission :) I'll include it on tapes for people if there's interest. --jessica ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 19 Nov 91 16:02:57 CST From: barger@ils.nwu.edu Subject: Personal stats Katewear: 5 tees and a kap Joycewear: 2 tees and a sweatshirt Happywear: wallet pic Larrywear: Cedar Rapids Women's Bowling sweatshirt Tarotwear: The Fool tee Cat: Perdita the Himalayan beauty (ask Vickie) Stuffed animals: borrowed teddy Computer: T1000 at home, Mac at work Foods: pizza, carrots, dovebars, peach juice (no meat fish poultry) Comix: Tales of the Beanworld Current toilet reading: The Runaway Soul by Brodkey Preferred bathing: hot bubblebath Last movie seen: My Own Private Idaho (** two stars) Fave TV show: Soul Train Non-bootleg videos owned: Barbarella Periodicals: Spy, Women of Power, James Joyce Literary Supplement Most expensive possession: wall hanging by Calman Shemi Transportation: CTA pass, feet, rollerblades Ambition: to write a videogame where the characters can fall in love Teen trauma: terminal horniness Twenties trauma: leaving home Thirties trauma: brutally broken heart/ the cruelty of the ambitious Religion: goddess Sexuality: quintisexual =========================================================================== Jorn Barger, Northwestern U., Chicago, Midwest, USA barger@ils.nwu.edu "And crazyheaded Jorn, the bulweh born?" _Finnegans Wake_ 513.07 (Ask me about the electronic FW reading project!) =========================================================================== ======================================================================== From: foster@magnum.convex.com (Harry Foster) Subject: True Confessions Date: Tue, 19 Nov 91 17:12:52 CST Jorn Barger advertises: > Preferred bathing: hot bubblebath Speaking of bubblebaths, one of my favorite past times is to play "The Ninth Wave" at full volume while completely submerged in a tube full of bubbles. Just listen to the words and image ... It's wonderful Everything, so white. The river has frozen over Not a soul on the ice, Only me, skating fast. -KT get out of the water ... get out of the water -- Harry Foster foster@convex.com "The fly that doesn't want to be swatted is most secure when it lights on the fly swatter." -G. C. Lictenberg "Too many people are thinking security instead of opportunity. They seem more afraid of life than death." -Tacitus ======================================================================== Date: 19-NOV-1991 18:23:23.33 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Replies and ramblings Hi! Sorry, Mitch- I've always had problems putting the right references in the right places. And when I say "snarf", I mean the action whereby one laughs as one takes a drink or tries to swallow some food, snorts, and it all ends up coming out the nose. Not a pretty sight. :) So yes, I was reacting favorably to the newest product-line. Jeff, I guess I did misunderstand you, but reading your post again, I think it was rather vague. I catch your point, though. This, and what Jim said about writing, made me think of my sister and her friends. When they don't write, they turn into crazed beings who are haunted by weird dreams and can't think straight. They start climbing the walls until they once again have the opportunity to let the characters that are in their heads take them over for a few months as they write the books. Meaning, the characters dictate the books to these authors, who obediently write them down. If they didn't write, they'd go nuts. The money has something to do with it, sure, but it's a very small thing compared with the basic need to get their thoughts down on paper and out into the world for other people to enjoy. Whomever mentioned Gael Baudino (sorry, mind warp here :) I think the radical feminism in her stories has something to do with the fact that she used to be a he. Last month, as my sister gave me the tape of harp music she mentioned something about this fact-- if you want, I can dig up the whole story somehow (though I'm not sure if I want to)... Um, exactly what kind of a system is necessary to handle GiFs? I think Wesleyan has a scanning lab, which assumably has a printer capable of printing them out, but I don't know if I can ftp any or not... I tried from .gaffa once, and the system basically laughed at me. Oh- it is my belief that Drukman listens to the Happy tape Vickie sent him at least once a week, if not more often, yet wouldn't admit it even under torture. He probably liked it, but didn't want to spoil his reputation, hence the exceedingly immature and shallow review. Have we come to expect anything else from him by now? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Meredith Tarr "We let the weirdness in..." mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu -Kate Bush +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1991 18:55 EST From: Generalisimo Llama Subject: Who cares about simple harmonic oscilators anyway? Jeff: If I misinterpreted what you said (I wasn't even sure WHO had said it until you posted your reply) then I offer my most sincere apologies and hope that you'll have me mauled by pit bulls at your soonest convenience. Like I said, I had accidentially axed my old mail messages and was working off of memory, so it is possible that I might have recalled wrong. In response to your question of why I write: the main reason I write is simply because the words and ideas are pent up inside me and NEED to be released, similar to how you described King's motives -- only I don't have the small fortune to support me. I'm definitely not in it for the money, becuase there's little to be found in the field. And I DO have a day job by the way -- or at will have one eventually. That's the whole reason why I'm sitting here in a dorm room at Stevens Institute of *Technology* rather than a nice little liberal arts college where it's a proven fact that 79% of all the professors wear tweed jackets with leather patches on the elbows. I'm doing a double degree: English and a yet undecided science. The tech stuff will be my job, but the English and writing will be my career, my life: "You see, I just work there To finance my real life That begins with scribbles on pages And thoughts of how and when." -"Notebook" -- The Innocence Mission (I can never resist a good IM quote, and this one just seemed SO appropriate.) Perhaps it's also an ego trip like you suggest -- I'm really not sure. For me, getting published would basically be a sign that I've made good on my God-given talent, that I've actually achieved something and that people think my work is worth printing. That would be the ultimate rush for me. I don't want to be famous or a best-selling pulpster -- just a writer. Almost as important to me would be to know that my word have somehow connected with a reader, that they had the effect I hoped they'd have, and that the reader has come to better understand me as a result. Like I said, however, the main joy for me lies in the creation. I actually DO have a large body of work that I keep just for myself and which very few people know about. Poems, short stories, a novella or two -- all are there for the happiness they brought to me, not for recognition or money or what- ever else one might hope to gain from his/her writing. This is just me, though. The sad truth is that your point does indeed hold true for a lot of writers out there today. Anyway, I apologize once again if I misread your statement. Sorry... | 'Well I... | I had hopes for my music.' | And imagined their faces said, | Well you can't do that you silly thing... -IM Jim Flynn Stevens Institute of Technology Hoboken, NJ u95_jflynn@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu ======================================================================== From: foster@magnum.convex.com (Harry Foster) Subject: Re: True Confessions (fwd) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 91 18:06:24 CST Forwarded message: ======================================================================== From: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu! Hairy Harry sez: >Speaking of bubblebaths, one of my favorite past times is to play "The >Ninth Wave" at full volume while completely submerged in a tube full >of bubbles. Just listen to the words and image ... Sounds remotely comparable to one of *my* favorite past times--walking along the beach listening to (read: singing along with) TNW. The crashing waves and screaming seagulls and that whiff of salt air, and a breeze complete the sensual experience. BTW, Jorn, what *is* the electronic FW project? I just bought _Shepherd Moons_, Enya's new album. I'm only on the second track but I already feel compelled to speak: The first track, "Shepherd Moons" was a bit disappointing on first listen-- we're talking total relax-o-rama. I'm now on the second track, which is also the first single: "Caribbean Blue" (she really has a thing for bodies of water, doesn't she?) This is one of the best songs I've bought since I got my Happy tapes. One of the synth sounds is very harpsichordy. It's interesting, because it's layered in with gobs of other stuff, but the whole song still carries this heavy harpsichord feel. Delightful! Rush out and buy this one... (yes, lyrics are still by Roma, and she's still produced by Nicky...and there are plenty of songs in Gaelic) Jeff ======================================================================== Subject: well, actually, mostly to Vickie Date: Tue, 19 Nov 91 19:23:19 EST From: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu You're gonna love this one... Lately I've had a bad tendency to forget to change the "to:" line when I'm replying to stuff on Ecto or r.m.g. Today I did something semi-similar with snailmail. Last night, I finally found something in which I could mail my tape for Ecto SiG, wrote a short letter, wrote out a return-address sticker and an address sticker (with just "To: Vickie Mapes" on the front; I have your address online and in a big pile of music-related prinouts and other stuff but I wasn't online at the time so I couldn't check on your full address). I stuffed a return sticker inside the package along with some stamps and sealed the whole thing up. This morning, in my haste to leave for work, I grabbed said package and dropped it in a mailbox. It wasn't until sometime this afternoon that I realized I'd done so without ever writing in your full address. OOOPS. The good news is that I know for a fact that the package had my return address on the outside. Unfortunately, I now have to wait for the package to go from the mailbox 1 block up the street from my house, through Happy knows what sorts of processing, to end up *back* at my house. Oh well. Feeling silly, Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Show what you are / Be strong, be true | | | Time for you to / Be who you are." | |jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu | --Happy Rhodes | ======================================================================== To join ecto, please send electronic mail to the following address: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu To have your thoughts included in the next issue, send mail to: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To subscribe to "Ecto", the printed fanzine, send $8 to: Ecto PO Box 11291 New Brunswick, NJ 08906 Ecto is issued 8 times/year, and will include photos and as much material from non-net members as we can get! Donations above the subscription cost are welcomed - all money goes to bringing you better issues! Your "humble pseudo-moderator" -- jessica (jessica@athos.rutgers.edu)