15-Nov-91 20:25:54-GMT,18970;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA25531; Fri, 15 Nov 91 14:56:59 EST Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA25868; Fri, 15 Nov 91 14:56:54 EST Date: Fri, 15 Nov 91 14:56:54 EST Message-Id: <9111151956.AA25868@athos.rutgers.edu> Errors-To: owner-ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #45 ecto, Number 45 Friday, 15 November 1991 Today's Topics: *-----------------* This is getting silly :) stuff, who has the (tm)? invading the continents carries of the world unite!! Quick clarification on username ======================================================================== Date: 15-NOV-1991 01:22:34.33 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: This is getting silly :) Hi! If we all don't watch it, some Monty Python member is going to poke his head in here and say, "Stop this right now- this is just getting too silly!" :) Klaus, I meant if anyone wanted a copy of the a cappella "Wuthering Heights". 'Schuldigung. And it is true that *every* German I've ever met has LOVED "Hotel California", without exception. I saw a busker in Marienplatz in Munich last year do it (after his version of "Space Oddity" had already had me in fits), and to this day I can't hear the song without the vision of him standing there with his guitar and accent going, "Some cantz to remember, some cantz to forget..." :) Tattoos... ewww.... I have this needle-phobia, see. A few people have sported ones I've liked (and I think I'd like yours, Court, since you seem to have been the most sensible about it of anyone else with them I've ever encountered). Vickie, putting the interview on the Ecto SiG is a good idea. I had a dream about Happy the other night, something about her car broke down as she was on her way to her first concert or something like that. I can't remember it well, but I do recall thinking, Wow, first I dream about Kate and now this! This is getting frightening. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Meredith Tarr "We let the weirdness in..." mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu -Kate Bush +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ======================================================================== Subject: stuff, who has the (tm)? Date: Fri, 15 Nov 91 09:25:42 N From: Klaus Kluge Vickie, I've finally seen your new (and now already retired) signature in one of the digests I had missed. I'm glad that you won't use it again, because I have to agree that it could "invite" people like Cynthia. Vickie noted > They've only been posted once, and I don't think the interview is > available separately for ftp, like the FAQ is (ooh, we can ftp now! It's It should go into the archive! Isn't it one of the informational highlights of the mailing list? Jessica could you make it available for ftp? BTW, how to manage the archive? Can others only get stuff, or uploads files as well? Can we create directories? So, can we help you managing the archive, or do you, Jessica, have to do everything? We now have so much more on information (interview's, reviews), and we should make it available separately to help newcomers to find it without wading through months of Ecto-gossip.:) Doug, thanks for typing the interview !!! This is another candidate for the archive! (the interview, not him) Doug: > ... stand on it in size 10-1/2 shoes, and I knew it would happen. :) :( :) Re: Personal info database OK, OK, I'll be silly as well. But you have to do the calculations. :) Time of birth: unknown, place of birth: Nordstrand (a Northsea island), 1.80m, 71kg, 37 deg. C, blue/grey eyes, brown hair, not married but in caring hands (pulling me over any ocean). Beard, sometimes well trimmed, sometimes fuzzy, currently nearer to the first. Driving a metalic blue Mazda 626 GLX, currently on winter tyres. Hmmm, I was too curious. I just had to see what I am in feet/inch and pounds. My pocket calculator, which luckily has buttons for these conversions says it's 5'10.8", 156.5 lb, 98.6 deg. F. _________________________________________________________ . * | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | _ . * .* . | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | (_) . . | (Countdown: 29 days) --- Happy Rhodes --- | . . o | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge kkluge@Materna.DE | <== ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 13 Nov 91 14:01:00 EDT From: @cdp.igc.org:S.A..Ezust@p38.f1.n721.z5.Fidonet.Org (S.A. Ezust) Subject: invading the continents Date: Wed Nov 13 14:01:55 1991 GMT+2 OK. I am starting to get the hang of the routine. I send out a piece of mail, I get it bounced back to me not once but TWICE two days later. I get a third copy of it bouncing back to me the next day, and I finally get a chance to read it a 4th time in the digest the following day. No problem. :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, since Kate Bush does get mentioned on this base from time to time, and I have no access to .gaffa at the moment, I guess this is as good of a place to ask as anywhere. I heard rumours (about 7 months ago) that Kate Bush's 2-CD set "A Woman's Work" will be released seperately (so you don't have to buy the box) at some time. Since I already have all the KT CDs, I don't want the box, but I definitely want the Woman's Work CD set, as I *MUST* have Experiment IV (both versions) on CD. Could someone out there confirm or deny this rumour please? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From: SVODOPIER@cc.curtin.edu.au or sdougiama@cc.curtin.edu.au why do you have a header with one account name and a .signature file with another anyway? I am so confused. >And a welcome to our new Ectophile in Zimbabwe!! That's four continents >conquered now... only South America, Asia and Antarctica to go! Thanks for the welcome! >What's the local music scene in Zimbabwe like, anyway? ummmm. errr. Well, I remember someone else on this list mentioned the Bundu Boys. To give you an idea of my knowledge on local music, I've never heard of the group before! I like traditional-african-influenced electronic music, like Delerium and Peter Gabriel. I also sometimes listen to the avant-guarde african music like Ray Lema or Salif Keita, but if it sounds too tribal, primitive or repetative, it is a little difficult for me to get enthusiastic about it. A lot of it is great to dance to, but I don't enjoy actually listening to it. I guess you're asking the wrong person. Between the marimba bands I hear in out-door Braais and pool parties, and the live entertainment at nightclubs which play heavily-western influenced pop music, I just couldn't tell you what's authentic and what's not... Incidentally, Thomas Dolby was the first musician I ever became fanatic about. I got Flat Earth and Wireless at the same time, and from there I managed to acquire almost everything he did before "May the Cube be with you" (at which point I stopped buying his stuff). I don't think there is any record that I've listened and have gotten to know more intimately than Golden Age of Wireless (and I had both the US and Canadian versions, which differed by 3 songs). I haven't listened to it in ages, but whenever I do I get flashbacks of my teenage years. Jeez; it's hard to believe that Flat Earth is almost 10 years old now!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Woj says innocently: >>Woj sent me a tape of Warpaint, and like the rest of you, I've been > incidentially, it's drukman's fault that i sent alan a tape. i knew that > alan was a ka-spel fanatic and jon's comparison of happy and ka-spel was > enough to make me record it for him and send it off... Ok... so it's not your fault. I still am eternally grateful to you for the act, however, and nothing you say will ever make me forget it! :-) Is Jon Drukman on this list? Why are you shifting the blame on him anyway? Is he one of the gaffa-ites who ectonians can't stand or something? What's going on? Anyway, I haven't noticed any striking similarities between KaSpel and Rhodes, although the lyrics of both musicians appeal to me in the same way: they're both disturbing, sometimes humourous, and sometimes SF-esque. The instrumentation isn't that similar though- HR is much more electronic-oriented, while LPDs like to use acoustic orchestral instruments more (although there was one song on Warpaint that had a violin and that was a wonderful surprise... Was it a real violin? Is happy playing it herself, or did she hire someone else to do it?). Are there any other Legendary Pink Dots or Edward KaSpel fans on this list? Ezust@p38.f1.n721.z5.fidonet.org University of Zimbabwe, Harare Engineering CAL Project --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 14 Nov 91 15:34:00 EDT From: @cdp.igc.org:S.A..Ezust@p38.f1.n721.z5.Fidonet.Org (S.A. Ezust) Subject: carries of the world unite!! Date: Thu Nov 14 15:34:30 1991 GMT+2 Hm!! My connection to ecto is obviously working now... But my second-to-most recent msg came back to me with a couple lines which were corrupted. I think it's because I had a From followed by a colon (:) near the beginning of a new line, so the digestor thought it was a new message or something.. Here is how it was supposed to read: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Someone started a thread of "power songs" which from context I interpret as songs that send shivers up people's spines, and sometimes induce tears, etc. Well, I have one I submit qualifies as such. Unfortunately, I don't remember the exact name: I taped all my CDs a week before I came here but didn't have enuf time to write down the track names, but you should be able to figger out which one it is: ======================================================================== From: Bel!SVODOPIER@cc.curtin.edu.au Everyone got that now? :-) And the moral of that story is don't put From followed by : on a new line in a message. As a little addendum to that list of songs, there is another one I just thought of today... The group name is Moving Hearts, and the lead singer is one of Ireland's most famous folk singers, Christy Moore. The song name is "Irish Ways and Irish Laws", which simply put is the most beautiful piece of folk music I've heard in my entire life. His younger brother, Luka Bloom, has gotten a small following on nm-list, in case anyone was curious... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Thanks to Mr. Segel for the ack that my messages are getting out!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Jessica sez: [> Well, i don't know why (does anyone?) but Arista doesn't seem to be [> releasing Solace here!!!!!!! It kept getting pushed back and back.. [> and now it's "postponed indefinitely". :P Originally Sarah McLachlan was on Nettwerk records out of Vancouver, BC. I thought her record contract was signed with them. It was about 8 months after the release of the Canadian version of "touch" that it was re-released under Arista, with a different cover design, with two songs re-mixed, one song ommitted, and one bonus song. In case you're curious: the two re-mixed songs were both versions of VOX, and the ommitted song was the remix of Ben's Song, and I can't remember what the name of the bonus track is because it is on my CD in boston and I only have the tape of the canadian version with me here!! So maybe it is just the US distribution deal that got cut, but not the Canadian release of the cd...? Anyone in Canada able to confirm this? Nettwerk is still alive and well, I think... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Vickie here. > > Welcome to Alan from Boston/Montreal/Zimbabwe way! I wonder if Toni Child's > song "Zimbabwe" (an incredible song!) ever hit the charts there. Hmmm. Who is Toni Child's? (excuse me if this is an incredibly naive question).. > Anthony is boring (IMO, as is all of this, of course) with no imagination, > and Eddings would've been okay if he'd been able to stand up to his publisher > and keep those damn 5-book series down to the trilogies he wanted them to > be, but even then the results wouldn't have been all that much better. hmmm. I will grant you Eddings isn't that good of a writer. It is fun to read some of his stuff, but it definitely lacks in profoundity. But I can't let you get away with slandering Piers Anthony like that. Granted, he's come out with a few really terrible books, but he's written over 60, and his ratio of good-to-bad books is at least 1:1, but probably better. His original Apprentice Adept series is masterful. On A Pale Horse, as someone mentioned, was fantastic (the second one about Time was really drawn out and didn't flow well at all, but....). Some of the original Xanth books were also quite good - I gave up after book#8, and I think he's up to #12 now, but he is definitely capable of doing some good stuff. Unfortunately, lots of his sequels can't stand up to the first books in his series. In another message, Vickie caps with: > So there's my story of why I like(ed) _Carrie_ so much. I think this > Stephen King thread is winding down now, but I really wanted to write > this, and post it, before it goes away altogether. It's been a while since I read carrie, but I can definitely relate to your story. Being on a computer network, I am sure you'll get flooded with letters from people saying "it was like that for me too" because computer-geeks like us had a hard time fitting into primary and secondary-school social groups. I am an example of one, and my sister is an example of another. We both quit high school one year early, because we couldn't STAND the place, but instead of dropping out of school entirely, we had connections with a university and took all of our courses there, where we had a 'clean slate' and a second chance at making new friends, etc. We both ended up anywhere from 1 to 2 years ahead of everyone else in our classes. I didn't like carrie for many reasons, but one of them was that the character sketches were so vivid and 'realistic' that they made me feel physically ill at times. So I guess that is saying something about how GOOD s.k. is as a writer. -------------------------------------------------------------------- The cat sez: > Welcome to our Ectofriend in Africa!! merow! (that means hello!!) And a merow to you too! Did you know that there is some kind of linkage between the Swansea CAL project and that of the University of Zimbabwe? What do you do at swansea anyway? >the sweet southern accent fools them EVERY time!! hehehehehehehheheh!!!!!! Southern Accent? You mean like "dayown sayouth" or southern England? -------------------------------------------------------------------- Vickie sez: > Well, we have a lot of new people on the list. It is a large file, so I'm > asking now for any objections. Brief background for newbies...when Ecto > first started, we all threw out questions for Happy to answer as part of > an Ecto/Homeground interview. Homeground is a Kate Bush fanzine from If you don't post it, please send it to me via e-mail!!!! Also, to Doug Burks: Thanks for your transcript of the interview!! Ezust@p38.f1.n721.z5.fidonet.org University of Zimbabwe, Harare Engineering CAL Project --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1991 22:28 +8:00 From: SVODOPIER@cc.curtin.edu.au Subject: Quick clarification on username Alan wonders: >>From: SVODOPIER@cc.curtin.edu.au or sdougiama@cc.curtin.edu.au > why do you have a header with one account name and a .signature file > with another anyway? I am so confused. Yes, sorry about that. The reason is fairly simple, though. My real account, SDOUGIAMA, is a fairly basic students account with a miniscule quota and no international mailing privs. (I could ask for the privs to be bumped up but the best reason I could give is "Ecto" :-) So all that account can do is receive mail. SVODOPIER is the account of a long defunct student with massive quota and HEAPS of privileges. Its an account that has been kept alive for several years and passed down from generation to generation of mad email and FTP hackers (totally unlike myself, cough cough) At the moment I have total use of this (illegal) account. So what the heck. I trust this information will remain safely within the snuggly bounds of Ecto. :-) Anyhow, any mail addressed to either account will get to me fine. Oh and about the two versions of Wireless, I have them too, but they're both Australian! (go figure) I was relatively upset when I bought the first one and it didn't have "She Blinded me with Science". BTW, Alan, have you heard the whole of "Aliens ate my Buick"? Most of it is very, very good Dolby. Well, back to work and some kind of wierd latin german cabaret irish folk aboriginal reggae now playing on the radio. 8>} Martin ,---------------------------+----------------------------. _ . | Feel the searing heat of | Martin Dougiamas. | ~ _r' Ll\ ~ | heightened conciousness. | sdougiama@cc.curtin.edu.au | | \ ~ | Feel the yearning for | Curtin University | ~ \ ._ / ~ | pieces of Happy-ness. | Perth, Western Australia --+---> x~ `-' ~ `===========================+============================' V ======================================================================== To join ecto, please send electronic mail to the following address: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu To have your thoughts included in the next issue, send mail to: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To subscribe to "Ecto", the printed fanzine, send $8 to: Ecto PO Box 11291 New Brunswick, NJ 08906 Ecto is issued 8 times/year, and will include photos and as much material from non-net members as we can get! 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