Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1126 ecto, Number 1126 Sunday, 29 May 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Ectofun Another new address! The list that works? WXPN concert question. yet another (and slightly different) Sarah review Correction on Philly Show Various subjects Re: Sarah at free Penns Landing show Re: Tori/Sarah Review from Audio What a week, my stuff, CD rampage, fnord RE:WXPN Singer/Songwriter Weekend Big Hat is now on line (apparently) Progressive Happy St. Petersburg (was: Happy Loves Milla!) Re: and a cool thing in my mailbox Re: Grammies Re: early artists Glastonbury and celb. sightings misquote Extra Ticket to Chicago Tori Concert Another post! Celebrities at concerts (was Sarah in SF...) Sarah tonight Sarah in Portland, OR Re: USA Texas Tour Dates Re: Another Harbinger Re: Tori/Sarah review Re: Frente! ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 12:02:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Neile Graham Subject: Ectofun I wrote: > So we're moving. Our new address (as of Saturday) for the records (and > the ectofile, woj): > > Neile Graham & Jim Gurley > 906 NW 75th Street > Seattle, WA 98117 Then Doug writes: > At least, I have a new postal address, if not a new electronic address: > > Doug Burks 906 NW 75th St Seattle WA 98117 USA Then Jan writes: > I am a "lurker" but feel compelled to jump on the bandwagon now and let you > know *my* new address, effective June 1: > > 906 NW 75th St, Seattle WA 98117 All I can say is that there are going to be some pretty good parties ;) And watch those rumours about Doug & Jan, ok? Anyone else moving in? --Neile ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 11:43:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Ettel Subject: Another new address! Hi all, I am a "lurker" but feel compelled to jump on the bandwagon now and let you know *my* new address, effective June 1: 906 NW 75th St, Seattle WA 98117 All cards, letters, money, and shelf paper will be gratefully accepted and put to good use. Thanks! Jan ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 16:22:39 CDT From: Subject: The list that works? Congratulations to Doug on the presumptive career move, and hoping Sarah succeeds in avoiding the need for one. Perhaps we should think about starting a systematic "Hire Ectophiles" propaganda campaign. Happy 100th birthday to Dashiell Hammett. In memory of Sondra Gair. Mitch ======================================================================== From: TSDevine@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 May 94 17:25:51 EDT Subject: WXPN concert question. I'm not sure if its been mentioned, but when are Sarah and Happy playing. I think I remember seeing that Sarah would be performing on Saturday. How about Happy? I hope she's on Saturday too, don't think I can make it Sunday. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Tim ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 May 94 15:29:35 PDT From: Neal Copperman Subject: yet another (and slightly different) Sarah review Despite the plethora of Sarah reviews as she ends her tour in a west coast sweep, I thought I would throw out my impressions anyway..... Perhaps as a prelude I should point out that I've owned Touch for many years, and have never been able to get into the album. Except for Vox, nothing really stands out. That didn't provide me a lot of inspiration for picking up anything else, so I never did. Just before my recent vacation, Jeff Hanson gave me a tape of Solace and FTE. On the plane out I listened to Solace, and found the first few songs to be more diverting and interesting than on Touch, and then promptly fell asleep. On the way back, I gave FTE the same treatment, falling asleep about 4 songs in. But I still had a better impression of it. I got to listen to Solace once more (all the way through, and awake!) before the show, and found it slowly growing on me, with a handful of songs even seeming memorable. Jeff and I were 3rd row center of the balconey at Wadsworth Theater on UCLA. The Devlins played, and despite making me drowsy (honest, most music doesn't put me to sleep, regardless of how this reads), I rather liked them. Much more than I expected given the mediocre comments they have gotten here. OK, there was absolutely no reason to watch them, since they did nothing at all, but I liked the music and would consider buying it. (Oh, and the crowd was incredibly receptive, giving them long and enthusiastic applause.) Sarah came out and was backed by her 6 piece band, in various configurations. I found her show to be quite erratic. Some pieces were captivating and really powerful, and others just faded away without making any impression at all. The band performed wonderfully as a unit, interacting well with each other and complimenting what Sarah was doing (accept for some occasional keyboard passages that struck me as distracting). Sarah's voice sounded great, and when it meshed with a song that seemed to have some meat to it, I really enjoyed it. Highlights for me were (titles mangled by poor memory) "The Child with a Dream in her Eyes", "Ice", "Ice Cream", "Mary", and a few others I don't know. I think I prefered the small ensemble work - the song played with 3 guitars, or guitar, bass, and backing vocals by the drummer. I liked the faithful to the album version of Vox, still didn't notice Ben's Song (accept that she introduced it) and was surprised to find Drawn to the Rhythm kind of flat and uninvolving (it stood out on Solace for me). I also didn't like the live Into the Fire at all, with lots of distracting and superfluous vocal swooping. The final number, FTE, started pretty drily, but picked up and eventually turned into a suitable number to end on. Throughout the show, Sarah was very friendly and personable, chatting and telling stories and seeming like a very sweet person. I was always surprised at how captivating she was as a hostess, but how she really pulled back and disappeared behind the layers of music and voice when she sang. I even tried to uphold the short-lived ecto-tradition of yelling Use the Force Luke on the band introduction, which was pretty much inaudible beyond the balconey, but should show up much too well on my tape. (How did you do it mjm?) All in all, I thought it was a decent concert, with some very strong highlights, but a lot of lulls. Beforehand we did a bit of CD shopping and I managed to get a This MOrtal Coil box, which I've been looking for for a while. I also accidentally bought the Holly Cole Trio (though I'm not sorry!). It was either that (used) or a used Area disc, and since I've never even seen Area new, I opted for that. Oddly enough, my method for selection seemed to involve taking the discs I wanted and putting them back on the shelf, before taking the remaining ones up to the counter and buying them. Not the method I really recommend. Happy Memorial Day weekend everybody! Scrawl is in town here. Does anyone like them? Neal ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 19:34:08 -0400 (EDT) From: WAYNEPALMER@delphi.com Subject: Correction on Philly Show Sorry guys, in the haste to post the message about the Philly Singer/songwriter concert, I mistakenly typed Happy Rhodes when what I meant to type was October Project. All I can say in my defense was that it was late and I had just posted announcements on a few other mailing lists and must have had Happy on the mind....I mean I was in Ecto, it could happen to anyone, really. Josh, as to a good Renaissance sampler, I believe some label recently put out a 2 part collection of the best of Renaissance. Don't remember the name put they both have identical covers that are rather dark and monocromatic. The difference is one says Volume 1, the other Volume 2. I say them in a Compact Disc World so you could check there if you have one locally. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful with the title. Wayne A. Palmer Ye Olde Florence Train Station ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 20:07:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Lovejoy Subject: Various subjects Hi folks! First off, a belated HUG to Kath, and congrats! Also congrats to Neile and Jim on their new Real Estate! And a thanks for joining us to Andy Wee, who's off to Singapore (don't vandalize any cars, now!) and a stint in the army! Best wishes to you! Thanks to Vickie for the Colossal scoop on the upcoming HTR release! I shall quickly post that info over to Genie, where Happy's Topic has been languishing somewhat. Perhaps this will revive it somewhat. I can only hope I shall find the time and means to travel up to Happy's upcoming performances this summer! And speaking of performances, any Jersey/Philly/East Coast Ectophiles planning on attending the upcoming Singer/Songwriter concert at Penn's Landing in Philly next month? October Project, Annie Halsam, Sarah McLaughlin, and did I see Iris DeMent in there somewhere? I think it's June 17th or thereabouts; it's been posted here - I can look it up and have firmer info next post. Anyway, if anyone else is planning on going, let me know so we can all get together! I got to see Frente! on Conan this week, thanks to this list. Was that the full band, or was that a pared down version? Nice song! The new Pulse had a horrible swipe at Tori Amos; something to the effect that she was "Taylor Dane overdosed on Bernie Taupin lyrics, and hallucinating that she was Kate Bush..." I just don't get it. Music criticism has no foundation; most of these people are clever writers who haven't a clue about music itself. They seem to know what they like and what they don't like but little concept of anything else. Grrr! As for myself, I've got "Cornfake Girl" stuck in my mind, and I'm enjoying it there! BTW, saw its video on 120 Mins. last weekend; yow! Well, off I go for now. My posts are becoming weekly, I note, but I am reading ecto daily, and - loving it! Perhaps This weekend I can drop some usenet groups that I don't need as much. So till the next time I come 'round the corner and up your block, this is Bob, your friendly poet-philosopher, saying: So long now! ======================================================================== From: jzitt@ssnet.com (Joseph Zitt) Subject: Re: Sarah at free Penns Landing show Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 21:24:58 -0400 (EDT) > Well, they have announced the lineup and it looks real good. Scheduled to > perform are Sarah McLachlin, Happy Rhodes, Iris Dement, Sam Phillips, ^^^^^^^^^^^^?????!!!!!!! > Odetta(sp? local Philly artist), Shawn Colvin as well as others. This 2 day WOW! I will definitely be there. I'll offer my place also as a newly declared EctoHostel, since I finally (after a multi-month ordeal) have my furniture. I'm at Joe Zitt jzitt@ssnet.com 600 N Broom Street, Apt 2 Wilmington, DE I'm within a reasonable travelling time (by car (though I don't have one) or public transportation) from Philly. I just joined WXPN yesterday. I wonder if I'll get a discount on the free admission B-). ======================================================================== From: jzitt@ssnet.com (Joseph Zitt) Subject: Re: Tori/Sarah Review from Audio Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 21:31:18 -0400 (EDT) > As promised, here is the combined review of UTP and FTE taken from the June > 94 issue of Audio magazine (w/o permission). This reviewer actually > appears to have a clue. Enjoy! The review is, indeed, a Person of Clue. Michael Tearson is my single favorite DJ (with the possible tie of John Aielli in Austin), and plays a lot of EctoFodder on WXPN (with occasional John Cage snippets and the like thrown in). He's also occasionally on WMMR (where I first heard him, and where my brother interned with him). ======================================================================== From: jzitt@ssnet.com (Joseph Zitt) Subject: What a week, my stuff, CD rampage, fnord Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 22:53:28 -0400 (EDT) Well, I just got back from a CD rampage. After many months away from me, my stuff has finally arrived, so instead of an empty apartment, I'm now surrounded by a plethora of cardboard boxes. Among the stuff was my CD player, which powers up OK, though I haven't connected it to speakers yet. Nonetheless, I took it as a sign that it was time to go on a long-deserved shopping spree. My haul (none of which I've listened to yet): Aphex Twin: Selected Ambient Works Volume II Phil Manzanera: Southern Cross Jah Wobble's Invaders of the Heart: Rising Above Bedlam Ingrid Karklins: Anima Mundi LaMonte Young Forever Bad Blues Band: Just Stompin' David Sylvian/Robert Fripp: The First Day Loreena McKennitt: The Visit Happy Rhodes: Rearmament I also got the new Liquid Mice cassette in the mail, and got tickets for Pink Floyd's concert next Saturday in Philadelphia (my brother is a major Floyd fan, but has never seen them live, so this is a birthday present to him). On a less fun note, my grandfather died last Sunday. The funeral was Tuesday. My grandfather, who was, in his way an ardent feminist, would have been pleased to see that the service was done by a female rabbi and we had women among the pallbearers. I kept pretty detached from it all, but it finally hit me when I watched Babylon 5 on Wednesday night and saw one of the characters sitting shiva for her father. (This whole thing has also put me back in contact with parts of my family that i had been staying away from (one thing being in Texas was good for) and slamming me headfirst into unresolved bits of personal history. *bleah* Well, it should all make for good lyrics someday.) All the CDs, BTW, with the exception of the Ingrid and Happy, were used or cutouts, so I got a pretty good bargain, all told. _Rearmament_ completes my Happy collection. The LaMonte Young seems especially interesting, since his previous CD consisted of 8 trumpets playing four notes for over an hour. I played RhodeSongs for my mother as we drove down to see my grandfather for the last time. She liked the first few songs (especially "The Wretches Gone Awry") but insisted that I turn it off part way through "I Say". She always reacts badly to percussion loops; she had a similar reaction to KaTe's "Deeper Understanding" (one of my alltime favorite songs). The scene as my grandfather died was pretty touching. My mother was there, as were all her sisters, and three of the grandchildren. They had asked me to hunt up some prayer books (fortunately I found the nursing home library), and, in his final hour (though he'd been unconscious for a while before) we sat around him and sang psalms (mostly ones we knew melodies to from the Passover Seder). Hmm... I think I'm rambling... ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 23:08:44 -0400 (EDT) From: WAYNEPALMER@delphi.com Subject: RE:WXPN Singer/Songwriter Weekend Add two more names to the lineup, John Gorka and local band Sonya Dada. Sonya Dada will be on Saturday along with Sarah, October Project and Iris Dement. Sunday is Sam Phillips, Odetta and the band Dada. Wow, two bands with Dada in the name. I'm not sure which day John Gorka and Shawn Colvin are scheduled for. I'll try to give the WXPN Memberline a call to see if I can get a complete list. Or I'll check tomorrow when I go to Penns Landing for the Jambalaya Jam New Orleans Festival to see if they have something posted. >WOW! I will definitely be there. I'll offer my place also as a newly >declared EctoHostel, since I finally (after a multi-month ordeal) have >my furniture. >I'm within a reasonable travelling time (by car (though I don't have one) >or public transportation) from Philly. >I just joined WXPN yesterday. I wonder if I'll get a discount on the >free admission B-). Well, I'll add to the list of Unofficial WXPN member EctoHostels. I live about a half hour outside Philly in Florence, NJ. in a restored train station from the 1850's. Not to much extra sleeping room in the station other than the couch and floor but the red caboose on the property has 4 padded benches that can sleep a few people. Wayne A. Palmer Ye Olde Florence Train Station ======================================================================== From: rjk1@cs.wustl.edu (Bob Kollmeyer) Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 22:53:55 -0500 Subject: Big Hat is now on line (apparently) Hadn't touched alt.music.alternative in probably 6 months, but stumbled across this and am forwarding it as they have been mentioned more than once here. > From bighat@rci.ripco.com Fri May 27 22:21:21 CDT 1994 > Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative > From: bighat@rci.ripco.com (Sanz) > Subject: Any Big Hat fans out there? > Message-ID: > Sender: usenet@rci.ripco.com (Net News Admin) > Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 03:47:26 GMT > Lines: 12 > Hi! > Big hat now has an e-mail address: bighat@golden.ripco.com > So e-mail me if you need any info about the band or have any comments. I'm > compiling a mailing list so the Big Hat newsletter can be sent out online. > BYE :) > Sanz > -- > bighat@golden.ripco.com (Sanz) aka Mad Millinery. > All the Big Hat info you'll ever need. Since the address on the inside of _Inamorata_ is Big Hat c/o Mad Millinery 5602 N. Ridge Chicago, IL 60660 it would appear that this is a fairly direct connection to the band. I haven't gotten a reply yet, but then again, I sent my request off about 30 seconds before beginning this letter. ;) bob ======================================================================== From: p.cohen@genie.geis.com Date: Sat, 28 May 94 03:40:00 UTC Subject: Progressive Happy > I thought I would pose the same question that I've asked on a few > other related mailing lists. How many out there who enjoy Happy Rhodes > were also fans of the early Progressive bands of the 70's like Gentle > Giant, Yes, Triumvirat, Renaissance and early Genesis? I would definitely put myself in this category. Happy's musics has alot of the qualities that I would call progressive rock. +########################################################################+ +###+ Paul Cohen, Philadelphia, PA +###+ +########################################################################+ +###+ P.COHEN@genie.geis.com +###+ PMCOHEN@aol.com +###+ +###+ 70703.3126@compuserve.com +###+ PMCOHEN@delphi.com +###+ +########################################################################+ ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 23:25:27 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: St. Petersburg (was: Happy Loves Milla!) Vickie writes: > Happy wants to know who sent her the great postcards of St. Petersberg > (ack, I always forget...e or u?), Russia. My first thought was Mike > Bravo (he lives there, after all) but then I thought Alex Gibbs. Mike? > you still around? Alex, was it you? Anyway, she says thanks. Wish I could say yes (my dad and step-mom from Russia are there for the summer again now) so sounds like Mike is the most likely suspect! BTW, the December issue of National Geographic had a photo spread and article about St. Petersburg for those interested (and about glass and a little optics too). I haven't been there since I was 8 or 9 so I don't remember much, but what I do remeber about Russia was very dramatic. /-\ |_ |= >< aka Betelgeuse, arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu ======================================================================== From: Kjetil Torgrim Homme Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 16:59:52 +0200 Subject: Re: and a cool thing in my mailbox Many thanks to Neal for bringing mjm's post which quotes Suzanne Vega's post to folk-music to my attention -- it is cool to hear about celebrities on the net. Now, should I send her a fan letter or not? It would be interesting to know how much mail she gets. "Building The Colossus" -- just why have I been hearing so many *groans* about that title? I must side with Val: "It is, erm, wonder-ful" :-) Seriously, I think it is an evocative title. Do you groaners find it too [... Kjetil T. stares into space, trying to find the word, but finds it difficult to focus his thoughts on such mundane matters while listening to Miranda Sex Garden ...] pretentious? +--- David Dixon: | I also got to do a bit of Happyvangelizing.. the guy sitting next to | me was a fan of female vocals, so I deluged him with suggestions, | many of which he had never heard of (including Happy). He was | amazed that I knew about Bel Canto! The volume of names I supplied | him with will probably bend his credit to the breaking point. :) With the problems Bel Canto has (sing. or pl., natives?) had with distribution in the US, I can understand his reaction... Still, there are a lot more Americans than Norwegians on the Bel Canto mailing list (send mail to for details). That was today's plug. Coming up next is recent album purchases. [Commercial break. You notice that only commercials with pleasing music are aired: Farris, Freia Melkesjokolade and Wasa Havrekna"kke] Okay, we're back, giving you the latest news about Kjetil's album purchases. My newest favourite record shop, "Hysj, hysj" (named after the onomatopoeia), has installed a rack for the newest releases (last month or so). This was a clever thing to do, since I picked out 6 records (some of which I had forgotten I wanted to have) in 2 minutes flat. Malcolm Mclaren, "Paris": I might have flipped past this had it not been for the recent discussion regarding "Waltz Darling" in these pages (an album I _need_ to acquire on CD). Probably not, though, since the name Amina appears on the cover. It seems to me that Malcolm McLaren has always had the same style, but it is always seems so modern, at the forefront of trends. There's a contradiction lurking somewhere. In any case, "Paris" is a an anthem to the city by the same name (the one in Europe) in 13 parts. The liner notes says: "This collection of songs attempts to inscribe a map of feelings over this jazz drenched city of Paris. A city where I have often been lost in a daydream, listening to Eric Satie, Art Blakey and Serge Gainsbourg. Some of their bloos and smells remain." -- Malcolm Mclaren It pretty much sums it up. The music is jazzy with Mclaren's dry spoken voice and vocal contributions from Catherine Deneuve (also mostly spoken), Franc,oise Hardy and Amina (disappointingly low-key). I am especially enamoured (how _can_ Americans justify spelling it "enamored"?) by the second track, "Walking with Satie", which is simply a slow Satie sounding piano, a swirling drum track and a faint sample from Zoolook in the background. And Mclaren's narrative on top. Erland rating +2 Miranda Sex Garden, "A fairytale about slavery" MSG continues in the same vein as on Suspiria, but it is more quirky, and it isn't all doom and gloom. They maintain their position as my favourite band with this wonderful blend of fuzz guitars, drums, violins and recorder. On top of it all vocal harmonies (just as important are the disharmonies) which can change into shrieks any moment. Soul-wrenching stuff, even if you don't listen to the lyrics. They're just brilliant. If you have a penchant for noise _and_ female voices, you'll love this. (As an aside, Katharine Blake is my goddess. I can't relate in such a way to KaTe (or Anneli :-). Katharine Blake imposes a feeling of respect, awe and _fear_ in me -- "I am not worthy!", indeed! I believe that is a crucial element in the relationship to deities.) Erland rating +3 Jah Wobble's Invaders of the Heart, "Take me to God" I'll admit it, I bought this album just for the two songs featuring Anneli Drecker of Bel Canto, and IMO just those two songs are enough to justify buying this record :-) In any case, Jah Wobble's music reaches far and wide. He mixes Latin, Oriental and Irish influences as if it were the most natural thing in the world. And of course, it really is. Technically and musically very tastefully done. The contributing artists have been picked with care, e.g. Dolores Riordian (sp?) of the Cranberries sings a beautiful song which name I have forgotten (and I have lent the CD to a friend). A little bit uneven, I think. I don't much care for tracks like "Yoga at the night club", but on the other hand one reviewer mentioned as one of the best tracks :-) Erland rating +1 Zap Mama, "Sabsylma" Zap Mama is a vocal group from Belgium with Zaiirean origins. The first time I heard them was on Radio Free Vat, where someone played their first album. It seemed to be OK. Then I got "The World According to Crammed" (great sampler, as I have said previously) which contains "Brrlak!" -- a very addictive song. I find this album very uneven. A lot of the vocal jamming without melodies I can do without (the first track is a good example of what I don't like). I guess I want a spiced-up Manhattan Transfer. I find there are many tracks I like (some a lot), but also many which grate on me. Time to program the CD player, I guess. Erland rating +0 The Golden Palominos: "This is how it feels" They were playing this album over the shop speakers. I believe they have been discussed here previously. A very varied album. Indie with a touch of jazz? I wish I knew the terminology to describe the guitars. Got to love that bass. On the whole rhythmic, funky, very good vocals. Sometimes remind me of This Mortal Coil. My favourite is track 2, "Prison of the rhythm", which I think begins with exactly the same riff as a song on some ambient dub collection -- please help me identify the original! Erland rating +2 Velvet Belly, "Colours" This is their debut album. Their style didn't change much with "Little Lies", but "Little Lies" is more produced, and I think the vocals are better on that as well. To be fair, "Little Lies" was a very good album (+2/+3). So what is it like? Pretty traditional indie style music, I guess, mushy jingling guitars and a female voice floating in the sky, in the vein of Lush and Curve, but gentler. (You can contact their label dBut via email: It may take some time before you get an answer just now since they had problems with their computer. They offer very good service, though -- the CDs were in my mailbox two days after I ordered them via fax +47 22 176 225.) Erland rating +1 Of course, I've bought more albums, which are not mainstream Ecto fodder (hah!) -- here's a couple with Erland ratings: Mappa Mundi, "Musaics" (ambient): +1 Trans-global Underground, "Dream of a 100 nations" (tribal/house): +2 Kjetil T. PS. Let me join the line of people congratulating Neile and Jim with their new house, Jan Ettel with a new house mate (uhm, no offence, but is Jan male or female?), Doug with a new job and moving to a lovely state (hey, the scenery is just like Norway, what can I say? :-) ======================================================================== From: Kjetil Torgrim Homme Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 17:12:00 +0200 Subject: Re: Grammies I found this in my files: one of many letters to ecto I have begun but never finished and sent. I've edited out some of it, and hope no one minds, with the summer lull coming(?). ==== On March 3, Kjetil T. scribbles down: I've just caught up with 800 messages, but when I saw this, I couldn't remain quiet: [HAH!] +--- Neal Copperman: | I must say I had a fine time listening to lots of U2 and then Mouth | Music Wow! Mouth Music? What did they play, and who were they? :-) I wonder if the Grammy show will be aired in Norway... [it wasn't :-(] In other news... I couldn't resist buying "Under the Pink" after all your glowing reviews and hearing the very nice "Cornflake Girl" on the radio. IMO, "Under the Pink" is much better than "Little Earthquakes", so it is a respectable effort for a girl composer. Pity about her English lessons, though :-) I *really* like the booklet with all the pictures zooming in and out on the subject. What I like most about Tori is her piano soli (oh, I *love* them!), which makes it all the more aggravating that she won't be coming to Norway :-( +--- Holly remarked: | Crokinole is to Canada as tiddly winks is to the U.S. So what is "tiddly winks"? Crokinole sounds fun. I've always wanted to try curling (Norway used to be one of the leading nations in curling :-), and this sounds like a table top version. BTW, isn't Couronne (sp?) a Canadian invention as well? Kjetil T. PS. I've had a Pink Floyd ticket for August 29 in my wallet since November. There's no way I am going to miss them out this time! ======================================================================== From: Mklprc@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 May 94 11:52:18 EDT Subject: Re: early artists WAYNEPALMER@delphi.com (Wayne Palmer) writes: ====================== I'm still trying to upload the color scan that I did that incorporates Sarah McLachlin's FTE cover with the pattern that is used in the liner notes. I use it as my Windows wallpaper along with some that I've done of Happy, Kate and Loreena McKennitt. Someone either here or on the FTE mailing list suggested that I upload it to ftp.uwp.edu but I have had no luck. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. ====================== So would I. I have a Milla scan I use as a desktop picture I would like to post, but don't know how (or where) to stash such objects. ====================== Before I go I thought I would pose the same question that I've asked on a few other related mailing lists. How many out there who enjoy Happy Rhodes were also fans of the early Progressive bands of the 70's like Gentle Giant, Yes, Triumvirat, Renaissance and early Genesis? ====================== Indeed, some of them, especially Renaissance (especially the first incarnation). I thought Yes was killer pretentious, though. Gentle Giant was interesting; and don't forget the first four albums put out by Pink Floyd--mostly instrumental and very spacy. Do you (or anyone) remember the Art Rock Suite by National Lampoon on their 1976 "Good-Bye Pop" album? If you like early stuff, I sent a tape to the dubbing project called "Proto Ecto," stuff I think we would have been talking about back then if there had been: 1) an Internet, 2) Happy Rhodes, to give us our name, 3) about three-quarters of our subscribers who hadn't gotten around to living yet. Michael Pearce ======================================================================== Subject: Glastonbury and celb. sightings Date: Sat, 28 May 94 17:19:19 GMT From: tim@falcon.is (Tim Breitkreutz) Well, I don't believe I am going to be able to make it to the Edinburgh ecto-gathering (sorry Neile!) but just today I was looking at an ad for the Glastonbury (sp?) music festival at the end of June, which I *might* be able to get to. Any ectophiles planning on going, or have any comments or advice regarding the festival? I think my biggest problem might be accommodations... In Ecto 1125 our mooman says: >Anyone else ever spy celebrities attending concerts? I once saw Jeff Daniels at a fIREHOSE concert. He was there for the warmup band, Mary's Danish, though.... ======================================================================== Subject: misquote Date: Sat, 28 May 94 17:34:24 GMT From: tim@falcon.is (Tim Breitkreutz) Sorry, folks, in my last message the question about celebrity sightings was David Dixon, not Brian. Those alliterative names had me confused! ObEcto: I got The Mask and Mirror specially delievered from Canada and really like it. I think it may be her most consistently good album--usually I have to skip one or two tracks on her records but not this one! Tim -- Tim Breitkreutz Email: tim@falcon.is Tel: +354 1 19407 Snail Mail: Thorsgata 14, 101 Reykjavik, Iceland ======================================================================== From: kmorrey@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Kathleen Morrey) Subject: Extra Ticket to Chicago Tori Concert Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 13:23:47 -0500 (CDT) Anyone interested? The concert is July 9th, a Saturday (and 2 weeks before my wedding :) I believe we have pretty lousy seats in the balcony, and they are quite expensive ($26 including per ticket charge junk), but heck, I'm still going! Bill Miller is opening for this concert again. It's being held at the Bismark Theatre, which is at Randolph and LaSalle (I think). And anyone who decides to buy the ticket has the added bonus of meeting my fiance! :) Kath ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 21:13:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Lovejoy Subject: Another post! Hi Ecto! Wayne's post arrived as I was sending mine out! I'm looking forward to a great ectoturnout at the WXPN concert next month, and hope to see a few of you then. I don't think I saw Happy on the list of performers, Tim, but it looks like there'll be some great acts there. Wow, two posts in two days! This is a recent record for me! Thanks, Doug, for the call for HBP '94. I'll hopefully pull something together in time! Take care everyone, and have a great week! Bob, Bob, Bobbidy-Bob... ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 21:52:14 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: Celebrities at concerts (was Sarah in SF...) David Dixon : > Anyone else ever spy celebrities attending concerts? Spalding Gray at Laurie Anderson's mostly monologue at Berkeley in 1991. I saw him in the lobby and he was also the prerecorded narrator of a short film she showed. I'm sure many know Laurie Anderson did music for his two filmed monologues (_Swimming to Cambodia_ and _Monster In a Box_), both of which I highly recommend! I now get the feeling I mentioned this before actually. /-\ |_ |= >< arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu ======================================================================== From: Mklprc@aol.com Date: Sun, 29 May 94 03:50:13 EDT Subject: Sarah tonight What a great concert. It's midnight, I just got home from seeing Sarah in the Intermediate Theater in Portland, the last stop on this tour. Pleasant surprise #1: She opened for herself, having left the Devlins in Los Angeles. We got two whole hours! She sold out the theater, a good-sized one with two balconies that retained a degree of intimacy other sites here don't have. She had a really skilled handler on the lighting control board; in her program book she credits Mike Dube', lighgting director, and Graeme Nicol as Vari Lite technician. Good job, guys. What a lot of work setting all that up! She told a number of stories between songs; it was a relaxed, casual but tightly professional end-of-the-tour date. She commented that the band likes to play tricks on the last date and they did; some in-jokes with Christmas lighting on the drums and an unexpected fog machine. She was talking about women's connection with the moon and tides, and, before launching into "Mary," noted "I'm ovulating really heavily tonight..." which brought down the house. She did two encores; the electric version of Possession, then closing with Fumbling Toward Ecstacy. Most of the songs were extended, concert-versions and two I was not familiar with; maybe new, or maybe just a while since I have played "Touch." My friend was only vaguely familiar with Sarah, and left converted. She loved the show. I gave her with a Happy tape (Ecto and Warpaint) to chew on until next I see her. I also bought (at US$20) a Fumbling tour book. Very nice hardbound, full-color item. I will scan in some appropriate pages for stashing on a site somewhere, once I learn how to do that. (Help will be appreciated...) They take the next month or so off, then begin a tour anew. Do not miss her concert, especially whoever gets to be the last stop next time. Michael Pearce ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 01:44:34 -0700 (PDT) From: John Zimmer Subject: Sarah in Portland, OR Well, I just got back from seeing the last Sarah concert (for this leg of the tour anyway, they're taking a few weeks off before heading out again) here at the Center for the Performing Arts, and I'm still kinda blissed out. A wonderful show, Sarah was in fine voice, and comic relief at odd times due to "last show" antics on the part of band and crew. Sorry folks, no set list (the above-mentioned blissing out), but here are some highlights: At the end of a rather long and convoluted explanation of the meaning behind "Good Enough" wrt her mother: "I feel like I'm just digging a deeper hole here", accompanied by a shovelling motion with her hands. Introduction to "Mary": "This song has a lot to do with the connection all women have with the moon and the ocean. I myself am ovulating severely, and I feel a strong connection with the tides right now..." They did "Ben's Song" live! I've been waiting years to see her do this one. Just a really wonderful, powerful performance, both musically and emotion- ally, covering material from all three albums. She seemed genuinely affected by the *very* enthusiastic audience response (I certainly did my part), and left the stage with a big grin on her face, followed in stages by the rest of the band until noone was left on stage and the keyboard finished its sequence as the house lights came up. Beautiful program book too, if a bit pricey ($20). John Zimmer tiefe@agora.rdrop.com ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 29 May 94 22:15:56 +1000 From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: USA Texas Tour Dates Vickie describes Texas: > Texas has released 3 albums, _Southside_, _Mother's Heaven_ and the > newest _Ricks Road_, and I love all 3 of them equally, with a slight > bias to Mother's Heaven. > > They're not blues, and they're not rock, they're not easily classified > at all. They're Scotland's Texas, and they're quite wonderful. While sorting through my CDs the other week, I discovered I have a spare copy of "Ricks Road" which any Ectophile with something interesting to trade is welcome to... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "All told, Under The Pink is small but likeably formed; ideal for those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 29 May 94 21:47:03 +1000 From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Another Harbinger Paula says: > your attention Paula Cole, who has an album entitled "Harbinger" > coming out in July. She was apparently singing with Peter Gabriel on > his tour once Sinead pooped out, and will also be on a new live album > of his in the fall. Her record is produced by Kevin Kelley (I think I > got that right), who has also done Gabriel and Kate Bush. She was That'd be Kivin Killen, most recently spotted mixing "Under The Pink", and whose work dates back to early U2 records. As far as I know this is the first time he's produced, as opposed to engineering and/or mixing. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "All told, Under The Pink is small but likeably formed; ideal for those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 29 May 94 22:07:12 +1000 From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Tori/Sarah review Jeff Pearce wrote: > They also had another item, which was an import Cornflake Girl single, but > unlike the single that predated the album (at least in the U.S.), this one > is in the slim jewel box customary for imports. It has the same tracks as > the other CG import and is marked "For promotional use only". Does anyone > know if this is anything special that should be snatched up, or is it > pretty common. If the version of "Cornflake Girl" is an edit rather than the album version (it'll say so on the label and back cover) and if the catalogue number ends in "DJ", then this is a rather rare UK radio promo. The edit has, however, been released on the US "Cornflake Girl" single, and is the same as the edited version used for the video clips. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "All told, Under The Pink is small but likeably formed; ideal for those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 29 May 94 22:23:47 +1000 From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Frente! Bob Lovejoyises: > I got to see Frente! on Conan this week, thanks to this list. Was > that the full band, or was that a pared down version? Nice song! Which song was it? There are four persons in Frente! so I hope that tallies... by the way, it's interesting to see that the artwork for the US version of "Marvin The Album" swaps all pictures of their old drummer for ones of the new one (including the cartoon!) despite the fact that the old one plays on all but two songs AND plays recorder on "Labour Of Love". It was pointed out to me by my features editor that the two tracks removed from the US version of "Marvin" were the sole songwriting contributions of Mark Picton, said former drummer. It appears that the official line about his departure being amicable were not the exact truth... > I just don't get it. Music > criticism has no foundation; most of these people are clever writers who > haven't a clue about music itself. They seem to know what they like and > what they don't like but little concept of anything else. Grrr! Not all of us!!!! :-) - Anthony -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "All told, Under The Pink is small but likeably formed; ideal for those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)