Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1114 ecto, Number 1114 Saturday, 14 May 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* A long long time ago October Project wedding music Re: Blood of Vicaritude Hole That Dog Redux Today's your birthday friends... Re: Any Chicagophiles missing snailmail? Re: A Slightly Off Topic Post, Maybe... Re: Mylene Farmer Postal mortem and other stories Loreena concert My Letter To The Konvention Organisers Heather Nova playlist Thanks Geoff!! (some thoughts) Re: Space Food Re: WOMAD? Re: Postal mortem and other stories ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 13 May 94 09:00:49 PDT From: snpf@lucid.com (Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson) Subject: A long long time ago Remember the Christmas Package? Did Happy get it? Did she like it? Did she like the wrapping? -seanympf ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 13 May 94 09:02:36 PDT From: snpf@lucid.com (Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson) Subject: October Project Sings to my morbid soul of beauty -seanympf ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 13 May 94 12:29:36 From: dbburke@mit.edu (Diane Burke) Subject: wedding music To whomever posted requesting wedding music, What about "Cut the Cake" - AWB? ;-) -DB ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Blood of Vicaritude Date: Fri, 13 May 94 12:32:32 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu > >Peter Gabriel CD5 -- Blood of Eden (UK) -- just recieved this >yesterday. It has the Mercy Street Remix and Blood of Eden Movie Mix. >Both are sensational. Wha'fuck? WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? I have a UK "Blood of Eden" CD5 (PGSDX9) which contains "Sledgehammer" instead of the film mix (which I love--I taped it from my VCR...). Does the film mix contain the dialog? To my mind, it makes the mix even better. "But everything, the computers, the stopped watches, all pointed to one thing: a nuclear blast." On a more positive note, I just picked up a bunch of tickets, seventh row center, for the June 20th Tori Amos concert here in DC. There'll be three ectophiles in my group...again, anyone else going? Jeff ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 13 May 94 10:58:44 PDT From: snpf@lucid.com (Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson) Subject: Hole I hear that their first album is better than the latest. Oh. Could someone, anyone, or lots of people in Germany keep an eye out for an album which is coming out sometime fairly soon which is by Penelope Houston (and her band). Because two people here would like it sent to us, because I understand the lag time for when it will be available in the us is quite a bit later.... danka -searnympfr ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 13 May 94 11:59:21 PDT From: Neal Copperman Subject: That Dog Redux These guys were mentioned, with either disdain or ambivalence, awhile back. The LA TImes review is short and made me smile, so here it is. **1/2 (out of 4) That Dog, "That Dog" (Geffen) The singers in this LA quartet use their incredible voices to lilt like the Andrew Sisters on downers, scream like spoiled kids and deadpan like affected punk-rockers. The blend of silly lyrics, dirge-like noise, pristine vocal harmonies and violin may be oringinal, but that doesn't mean it's appealing. Also, from the new Johnny Rotten book, which was not recommended, an interesting tidbit I'd never heard. Chrissie Hynde almost had a marriage of convenience to Mr Rotten to become a British citizen. JR got cold feet at the last minute, and sent a totally wasted Sid Vicious in his place, which gave Chrissie cold feet, and the whole thing fell apart. Neal ======================================================================== From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 06:40:17 Subject: Today's your birthday friends... i*i*i*i*i*i *************** ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* *** Steve Fagg ** *** Karel Zuiderveld ** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Steve Fagg Tue May 13 1958 Nightwol Karel Zuiderveld Fri May 13 1960 Stier Michael Colford Wed May 16 1962 Taurus Christopher Boek Tue May 19 1970 Taurus Yngve Hauge Fri May 21 1971 Gemini Lisa Laane Tue May 22 1973 Gemini Perttu Yli-Krekola Thu June 2 1966 Kaksoset Alex Gibbs Thu June 8 1967 Betelgeuse -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.wupper.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== From: iago@merle.acns.nwu.edu Subject: Re: Any Chicagophiles missing snailmail? Date: Fri, 13 May 94 16:31:19 CDT First of all, thanks to Brian. I mistakenly sent my reply to him rather than ecto, and he forwarded it back to me. Now, for the reply: (Yes, I hate the >'s too, but just deal with it.) > *sigh* The mail service has been incredibly bad here in Chicago. I'm living > in one of the areas (heck, I guess all areas of Chicago have been affected) > that's been hit with poor service and lost mail. I still haven't gotten some > of the mail that was forwarded from my old address, and I don't think I ever > will. :( > > A few of the things that have occurred to me: > I left my building card (the one that lets me in after 7pm at night) at my > brother's house in Georgia. He send it via Priority Mail (2 days, 2 lbs., > $2.90), but 3 weeks later I _still_ hadn't received it. Finally it was > returned to my brother, zip code blacked out for no apparent reason. My > brother went to the Atlanta post office to complain -- it turns out that > someone had put a pen to the package, making the zip code unreadable. Note > that this is absolutely illegal for the post office to do, but apparently not > for the Chicago post office. Erg! BTW, this story has a (somewhat) happy > ending. I did get the pass, but my brother had to pay for it to be sent > again. > > When I moved to Chicago in January, I had all of my mail forwarded to the > following address: > Box 1531 > 850 N. Lake Shore Dr. > Chicago, IL 60611 > After a month of not getting any mail, I called up to find out why. It seems > that the post office folks here in Chicago read only the first line, and were > looking for PO Box 1531 rather than sending it to the street address (where I > have a box). Duh. I have never recovered any of the mail sent to that > address, despite much yelling and screaming. > > When it came time to register for spring quarter, I found out that I had a > hold, which basically means do not pass go. Why? I still owed money. So why > hadn't I gotten a bill in the mail? We don't know...we continue to send out > bills until the full amount is paid. They even sent me a bill. Gee, I've > never gotten it. > > God, this whole post office bullshit in Chicago makes me furious. They don't > listen to you, I've been hung up on while complaining, and despite all the > apparent changes (they fired 3 or 4 top officials), I don't see it getting any > better. > > So if you send me mail, address it to: > Valerie Nozick > 850 N. Lake Shore Dr. > Apt., #1531 > Chicago, IL 60611 > > ==> valerie > iago@nwu.edu > (and god bless e-mail) > ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 13 May 94 17:50:13 EDT From: kosky@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Anthony Kosky) Subject: Re: A Slightly Off Topic Post, Maybe... Bob posted the question: > If you tied buttered toast to the back of a cat > and dropped it from a height, which would land > down first I recalled this topic having come up before on the net, and had to dig around in my archives to find some pertinent information..... ---------------------------------------------------------------- This question was posed to the Usenet Oracle: > If you drop a buttered piece of bread, it will fall on the > floor butter-side down. If a cat is dropped from a window > or other high and towering place, it will land on it's feet. > > But what if you attach a buttered piece of bread, butter-side > up to a cat's back and toss them both out the window? > Will the cat land on it's feet? Or will the butter splat on > the ground? And in response, thus spake the Oracle: } Even if you are too lazy to do the experiment yourself you should be } able to deduce the obvious result. The laws of butterology demand } that the butter must hit the ground, and the equally strict laws of } feline aerodynamics demand that the cat can not smash it's furry back. } If the combined construct were to land, nature would have no way to } resolve this paradox. Therefore it simply does not fall. } } That's right you clever mortal (well, as clever as a mortal can get), } you have discovered the secret of antigravity! A buttered cat will, } when released, quickly move to a height where the forces of } cat-twisting and butter repulsion are in equilibrium. This equilibrium } point can be modified by scraping off some of the butter, providing } lift, or removing some of the cat's limbs, allowing descent. } } Most of the civilized species of the Universe already use this } principle to drive their ships while within a planetary system. The } loud humming heard by most sighters of UFOs is, in fact, the purring of } several hundred tabbies. } } The one obvious danger is, of course, if the cats manage to eat the } bread off their backs they will instantly plummet. Of course the cats } will land on their feet, but this usually doesn't do them much good, } since right after they make their graceful landing several tons of } red-hot starship and pissed off aliens crash on top of them. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Not that I'm terribly sure what this has to do with ecto... -Anthony ======================================================================== From: klindman@phoenix.oulu.fi (Kimmo Lindman) Subject: Re: Mylene Farmer Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 12:28:10 +0300 (EET DST) > >Kjetil T. (kjetilho@ifi.uio.no) wrote: > >In any case -- I have Mylene Farmer's "L'Autre', which I rather enjoy, >but I'm not ecstatic about it. I then bought "Dance Remixes" because >I thought it would be groovy. Well, I found it thoroughly boring and >bland, and I've probably only listened to it twice (if that!). > The word "groovy" is hardly the one I'd use describing the music of Laurent Boutonnat and Mylene Farmer (he composes the music, she writes the lyrics). The "Dance Remixes" record was remixed by Laurent Boutonnat and Thierry Rogen in the studio "Mega", which has the reputation of currently being one of _the_ best sounding studios in Europe. Given the facts (and trusting my own ears), the "Dance Remixes" album sounds Excellent to say the least. Despite the fact that Mylene released her "Greatest Hits" album in the form of a remix album and even with such a horrible title as "Dance Remixes", I wouldn't consider her as a mainstream dancepop artist. If one truly wants to explore the enigmatic and _unique_ universe of Mylene Farmer, I suggest he/she should try listening to her 1988 album "Ainsi soit je..." and paying special attention to her lyrics (no, they are not all about sex and no, you don't have to understand French very much to get a clue of what she's saying). "L'autre" is also a very good album of Mylene, with even more heartbreaking lyrics. A bientot, Kimmo ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kimmo Lindman "C'est la solitude de l'espace klindman@phoenix.oulu.fi Qui resonne en nous University of Oulu On est si seul, parfois" Finland - MYLENE FARMER: L'autre... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 17:19:13 CDT From: Subject: Postal mortem and other stories Count me among those with snailmail war stories. Periodically, I get mail (generally bulk mail, but I can't guarantee it's only that) addressed to the same house number on the adjacent street. More recently, I've sometimes been getting stuff for other addresses on my street, which have some digits in common with mine and some different. A few weeks ago, I got a bunch of mail for several of these addresses at once, plus at least one completely new one. Last week, I never got _Newsweek_; I wonder which of my neigbors did. For all that, I get the queasy feeling I've been getting off easy :-). Last night I lay down for a bit of rest, and naturally slept through the Indigo Girls on Conan. Anyone know what went down? To the memory of John Smith and Erik Erikson. Happy Birthday to Steve--did you ever get to see the standard time plaque from closer than a moving bus? Mitch ======================================================================== Subject: Loreena concert Date: Sat, 14 May 94 02:30:15 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Well, I'm back from tonight's Loreena McKennitt show. 'Twas very good. Her voice, as usual, is *stunning*. To be truthful, though, I didn't enjoy this show as much as the last. The venue, though incredibly appropriate (the church I described in my Sarah McLachlan review, complete with seating in the balcony and 40' ceilings), wasn't nearly as intimate as the last place I saw her (a tiny little auditorium at a college out in the middle of nowhere). Despite having front row seats, virtually all of the sound came from the sound system at the sides of the stage; it was a bit disconcerting being so close to her and having her voice be so far away. Often I find that when I have great seats like that, I can (a) hear the musician or (b) hear the musician's monitor. But hey, the sound was *great*, though they had an occasional mixing problem. At one point (hmmm...it might have been "Marrakesh Night Market"), the acoustic guitar kicked in and completely blotted out Loreena's voice; she turned to the sound man with a look of consternation and things got quickly ironed out. Overall, though, it sounded great. Loreena was quite taken with the venue, and complimented it several times. In fact, at the end when she thanked the audience for coming, she noted that while she couldn't have given a performance without us, she would have been perfectly happy to use Gaston Hall for rehearsal! My biggest disappointment is that she didn't play *anything* from _Parallel Dreams_. I'd expected at least one track from it (perhaps "Standing Stones" or "Dickens' Dublin" or "Huron Beltane Fire Dance" or ... (I would have loved to have heard "Annachie Gordon", but I really wasn't expecting that one... )). My second biggest disappointment was that she cut short "The Lady of Shalott." I was rather surprised by that, as she made sort of a big deal about performing the entire piece last time I saw her. Basically, the lady scribbled her name on the boat, hopped in, lay down, and next thing you know, Lancelot's asking who the pretty dead chick is. She left out the portion in which the Lady actually dies, the boat arrives at Camelot, and the people gather around. At least 3 verses, I believe, and maybe another one or two. I really feel that that takes away from the emotional punch of the song. It's one of my favorites, and I'm usually pretty worked up by the time the Lady is actually dead. It was odd not to get that climax. She also didn't talk nearly as much this time (and even said near the beginning that they'd provided a set list, as well as the info from the album liner notes so that she could spend more time singing and less time talking). Thing is, I *liked* her talking last time. She told neat stories about her harp, and wandering around Ireland, and almost becoming a veterinarian, and so on and so forth. It was neat and fun, and made her a more interesting performer. I know, I know, I'm kvetching a lot. Don't get the wrong idea from the above stuff. I loved the show, as did Cathy and Beth (they asked me to post a highly positive, if not rave, review). I'll let Mike speak for himself, though he certainly seemed to have a good time... Jeff (wondering if Sue Trowbridge, who's come through on a few things lately, has any idea exactly where Sarah is playing in Bal'more in July, and when tickets go on sale...) |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Everything is still with a fear of never coming out | |Suffering Bad Grammar| Never following through / Never ever finishing | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | What we wanted to do." -- Melissa Ferrick | ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 14 May 94 11:28:37 BST From: GTP10@phx.cam.ac.uk Subject: My Letter To The Konvention Organisers In response to Mike's request here is what I wrote to the organisers of the Konvention: To: s0pdfm@uk.co.exnet Subject: Konvention Thanks Dear Peter, I just wanted to write to thank you and everyone else involved in organising yesterday's Konvention. Despite the various hiccups I think everyone had a great time - the Love-Hounds/Ectophiles contingent certainly did! Could you please pass on my own personal thanks to Dave for his considerable patience and good humour in putting up with me hassling him about playing Happy Rhodes and Galahad tracks most of the day? The Ectophile contingent hope he enjoys the copy of RhodeSongs we gave him. Now, if I may make a couple of suggestions for the next Konvention. I must say that I was deeply disappointed by most of the live performances. The dancers were actually much better than I expected, but I found most of the musicians very unimpressive. As my friend Jonathan commented "You'd think Kate fans were more talented than that". I'm afraid I don't think being a long-standing member of the KBC is enough justification to permit performances of the standard of bad buskers; nor am I impressed by people demonstrating how well they can program synthesisers to duplicate almost exactly the sound of Kate's original songs and singing out of tune over this backing. In my opinion only the husband/wife duo who performed the two covers which were both technically well done and interesting interpretations deserved a platform. My second suggestion is to invite attendees to submit in advance recordings to be played, perhaps during the intermissions. These might be recordings of themselves performing Kate songs or tracks recorded by professional musicians (like the Happy Rhodes song which quotes from "Running Up That Hill" or the Galahad song inspired by Kate) which might be of interest to other Kate fans. You could then decide which were in fact appropriate. Many thanks again for organising a great day! Geoff Parks ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 19:14:00 +0200 From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Subject: Heather Nova playlist Hi! Sorry to have this delayed quite a bit, but 12-14 hour working days plus of course a weekend in London left me without any time. Here's finally the playlist of the Heather Nova concert in Frankfurt's Nachtleben on Sunday, May 1st 1994: Frontier Verona Light Years Habit Throwing Fire Island Walk Dis Blessed Talking To Strangers Mother Tongue Maybe An Angle ------------ Doubled Up Sugar This is as accurate as the band did know before the concert because it's copied from the sheet of papers that have been used on stage ;-) Bye, Uli -- "Mann, was glaubst'n Du, was das fuer 'ne Rechenleistung is?" - "'n 66'er, _mindestens_" (2*anon, CeBIT '94, SGI booth, Onyx/PowerChallenge presentation) ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 14 May 94 10:41:57 EDT From: KonvenTion_Fan Subject: Thanks Geoff!! (some thoughts) Lots of thanks and hugs and bows and kudos to Geoff for throwing a wonderful Ectoparty in Cambridge last Saturday!! The company was great, the music & videos (thanks Uli!) were great, the food and drinks were great (especially those tacos!), the crossword puzzle was lots of fun, though very hard (thanks Klaus & Claudia!) and the record fair was great, though I spent *way* too much money there :-) (thanks to Ilka & Peter for showing me the way there. *HUG* back!). I knew there were some people who didn't introduce themselves, Ian.. :-( The KonvenTion was fantastic, especially, as Meredith told you, when the glorious sounds of the acoustic FTF was played at high volume for 1000 Kate fans....Geoff Parks and Dave Cross are my newest heros! Kate will hear Happy (or have the chance) one way or another. I gave Lisa (who runs the KBC fan club) one of my sampler tapes (actually, I gave her 2, one for herself and one for Kate) and I gave Del Palmer one of the sampler tapes that Uli had made. If Kate doesn't hear Happy, it won't be for lack of trying :-). We saw Milla on TV in London! Monday morning, as we were struggling to wake, Chris turned on the television in the hotel room and she had just started a song. I'll let you know which song when I dig out the CD from whichever pile it's in. The show (called, I believe, "Good Morning") only played half of the song, then went back to the studio where some guy commented "She's just like Tori Amos!" and that was it. It wasn't a "video" and yet, I don't think it was a live performance done just for the show either. It looked to be a live lip-synch, with Milla and the band on a soundstage (not a "performing stage" like at a concert). I have no idea what they might have said about Milla before the song started. If anyone else saw what happened before the song started, please post. "A ooo ah ah a oo ah ah...something...talk to you...tattered pictures..."?? Obviously, besides "Charly" I haven't paid attention to the lyrics. I *am* crazy about the album...every single song is great! I'm just not as familiar with it yet as I should be. Anyway, it was nice to see Milla in action :-) I don't know if I'll be writing anything more extended, but here's a brief rundown of what our week was like... Thursday: we flew across a great big pond... Friday: went to see TLTCTC in the theater. Only 9 people there :-( Saturday: Cambridge!! Met lots of people!! Spent lots of money!! Sunday: KonvenTion...wow! Happy played...wow!! Saw Kate's back...wow!! :-) Monday: saw Milla (for 2 minutes) :-) Tuesday: visited Homeground Towers in Rochester!! Wednesday: saw Les Miserables at The Palace Theater (sorry Steve :-( ) Thursday: cleaned out HMV Video :-) (oh, and flew across big pond again) We're *still* resting, and trying to get caught up with mail. eikciv ======================================================================== From: Mklprc@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 May 94 11:53:43 EDT Subject: Re: Space Food =====quoting===== > File this under This-is-bugging-the-sh**-out-of-all-of-us: > > Does ANYONE remember the name of the candy bar bearing the > following description: > Available in the 60s. > Slender and cylindrical in shape. > Chocolate (or containing chocolate). > ...and here's the clincher... > The advertisement for the candy bar informed us viewers that it was > "...eaten by astronauts.". YES! YES! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPACE FOOD STICKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Made by Pillsbury. Yum, yum. They came in several flavors, including peanut butter. My friend Scott and I were talking about these just a couple of weeks ago. They were GREAT!! Bring 'em back, I say! Sorry if I seem overexcited. I just happen to have very fond memories of 'em, is all. Yes, I'm waxing nostalgic over '60s (and early '70s) junk food... --Sue Trowbridge =====end quote===== This must be what the Sopwith Camel was referring to in their song "Astronaut Food." Lyrics went, "Went into a market, just to see it...Astronaut Food makes me wish I were on the moon..." I was thinking of another cyndrical chocolate candy, but it was the tube it came in, not the candy, which was more like large Alka-Seltzer tabs. Good, and available in movie theaters. Anyone remember THAT? Michael "Good 'n' Plenty looked like Contac cold capsules" Pearce ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 14 May 94 22:50:28 -0500 From: "Dennis G Parslow" Subject: Re: WOMAD? All I know about WOMAD is that Midnight Oil is coming along. Dennis Parslow You know what I like about hockey? Troy, NY 12180 I'm on breakaway with the greatest player p00421@psilink.com of all time. You know what I hate? Darryl Strawberry is not a dog. He's not passing to me. A dog is loyal and chases after balls Denis Leary Tom Lasorda ======================================================================== From: Stuart Myerburg Date: Sat, 14 May 94 14:14:41 -0500 Subject: Re: Postal mortem and other stories Mitch wondered: > Last night I lay down for a bit of rest, and naturally slept through the > Indigo Girls on Conan. Anyone know what went down? They sang "Touch Me Fall" and were accompanied by a string quartet and a full band. It was an excellent live performance. I have never been an Indigo Girls fan because I have always felt their songs suffer from a certain sameness. But I *love* "Touch Me Fall," especially when the strings kick in toward the middle and the whole tempo of the song changes. I wonder if the rest of _Swamp Ophelia_ is as good as "TMF." If so, it will have to be added to my ever-growing to-buy list. Stuart __________________________________________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg labspm@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu "When I finally got to see them live, I was transformed in to an hysterical 9-year-old girl at a Beatles concert." - Kurt Cobain on Shonen Knife __________________________________________________________________________ ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)