Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1113 ecto, Number 1113 Friday, 13 May 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Blasts from the past and the future, not respectively Re: Pop Culture Trivia (No Happy Content) A Slightly Off Topic Post, Maybe... Loreena in DC, etc Glad to finally sign on MacLachlan Hole Re: Glad to finally sign on Tori Concert Re: A Slightly Off Topic Post, Maybe... Back with a vengenance (or: Norwegian potpourri) WOMAD? Roadtrip - Vancouver B.C. this Saturday Re: Back with a vengenance (or: Norwegian potpourri) Blood of Vicaritude ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 17:18:12 CDT From: Subject: Blasts from the past and the future, not respectively Last Saturday's _Midnight Special_ announced that Loreena McKennitt will be performing in Chicago on June 9-10. They didn't know where. Ah, the 60s. I, too consumed a modicum of space food sticks in their day. I knew the answer to Chris's question even before Sue's post came in, but was too busy to write in immediately. For all that, as I recall the texture was definitely sort of synthetic, as was the flavor to some degree. I'm not alto- gether surprised the product didn't stand the test of time. Mitch ======================================================================== From: jzitt@ssnet.com (Joseph Zitt) Subject: Re: Pop Culture Trivia (No Happy Content) Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 19:50:38 -0400 (EDT) > Does ANYONE remember the name of the candy bar bearing the > following description: > Available in the 60s. > Slender and cylindrical in shape. > Chocolate (or containing chocolate). > ...and here's the clincher... > The advertisement for the candy bar informed us viewers that it was > "...eaten by astronauts.". I think you may mean "Space Food Sticks". I remember that there were several flavours other than chocolate (since I ate them avidly and was allergic to chocoloate). > And, while we're wasting bandwidth.... Our clinic manager is > getting married, and doesn't want to use "The Bride cuts the cake...." for > when the....well,....when the bride cuts the cake. Similarly, the bride > doesn't want to use "When I'm 64" by the Beatles. Does anyone have any > suggestions? They are willing to entertain "strange" ideas, though, > considering the elderly relatives likely to be present, profanity is > probably out. In what context would they use "When I'm 64"? ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 20:32:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Lovejoy Subject: A Slightly Off Topic Post, Maybe... Hi Folks, Sorry to be away so much; we're caught up in "The Stand" and my 'puter time suffers. Tomorrow we are headed to North Carolina for a family wedding on Saturday. I've managed to keep up with everyone's posts, though, and I've evennoticed that one or two were about Happy!!! I'll try to add my 2 mils to the Warpaint/ Given In theme when I return. Meanwhile, I offer everyone this nifty article an old friend sent to me: -------------------------------------- Why ask why..... ================ Why do you need a driver's license to buy liquor when you can't drink and drive? Why isn't phonetic spelled the way it sounds? Why are there interstate highways in Hawaii? Why are there flotation devices under plane seats instead of parachutes? Why are cigarettes sold in gas stations when smoking is prohibited there? Do you need a silencer if you are going to shoot a mime? Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations? How does the guy who drives the snowplow get to work in the mornings? If 7-11 is open 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, why are there locks on the doors? If a cow laughed, would milk come out her nose? If nothing ever sticks to TEFLON, how do they make TEFLON stick to the pan? If you tied buttered toast to the back of a cat and dropped it from a height, which would land down first If you're in a vehicle going the speed of light, what happens when you turn on the headlights? You know how most packages say "Open here". What is the protocol if the package says, "Open somewhere-else"? Why do they put Braille dots on the keypad of the drive-up ATM? Why do we drive on parkways and park on driveways? Why is brassiere singular and panties plural? Why is it that when you transport something by car, it's called a shipment, but when you transport something by ship, it's called cargo? You know that little indestructible black box that is used on planes; why don't they just make the whole plane out of that same substance? Why is it that when you're driving and looking for an address, you turn down the volume on the radio? To which I might add: Why are the most vocal anti-abortionists always in favor of the Death penalty? Anyway, happy trails everyone, and I'll be back Sunday to try to dig out! Have a great weekend! Bob the Travelling Man PS - woj, Chris - Did the Package get delivered? ======================================================================== Subject: Loreena in DC, etc Date: Thu, 12 May 94 22:04:18 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Hey, folks... Tomorrow night, Loreena McKennitt will be playing at Gaston Hall, Georgetown University. Any ectophiles planning to go? I'll be there with our own Mike Matthews, Cathy Guetzlaff, and Beth Perry (with a few other friends in tow). I'll probably be wearing my Ecto t-shirt...drop by the front row and say hello! ---- For those interested, yes, it's true, our own Dr. Perry has arrived safely from her excursion first to the polar bear-infested ice front and then her jaunt to the Rock. Unfortunately, her e-mail connection at the lab is down and she's no idea when it might get fixed. Additionally, she's just found a new abode and I don't know her snailmail address. But if anyone has greetings for her, let me know and I'll pass them on. ---- I just got a tape with October Project on one side and Eliza Whats-her-name (the woman working with Wollenweider) on the other. I can hereby recommend October Project to *anyone* who has any sort of interest in Clannad/Maire Brennan. They're absolutely fabulous. mjm, I still don't have the text of all the lyrics to "Bury My Lovely", though I'll note that it's an amazing track. The Eliza (Gylkison, perhaps?) album is a bit of a sleeper...quiet, and somehow a touch too mellow. It's growing on me, and it does have some standout tracks (particularly the one about crossing Jordan...) I can't recommend it nearly as highly as the October Project album (which I will probably end up buying for my Dad for father's day...he'll love it), but you might want to look into it. Happily waiting for Loreena, Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Everything is still with a fear of never coming out | |Suffering Bad Grammar| Never following through / Never ever finishing | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | What we wanted to do." -- Melissa Ferrick | ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 23:17:47 -0400 (EDT) From: WAYNEPALMER@delphi.com Subject: Glad to finally sign on Hi...I'm new here (just started getting Ecto mail today) and thought I might as well jump right in. Been a big fan of Happy Rhodes since hearing her a few years ago on WXPN, the only radio oasis in the commercial wasteland. Actually, WXPN was a factor in deciding to move down to South Jersey (that and finding an old 1850s railroad station and caboose here in Florence, New Jersey to live in) and move away from the New Brunswick Rutgers University area. How did I know at the time that I had been living in an area that would spawn an Ecto mailing list. I hope between here and a few of the other mailing lists I can keep up to date on who's doing what and when their doing it. Just saw Loreena McKennitt last night at the Keswick Theatre just outside of Philadelphia last night and I must say she was fantastic. I had 3rd row seats and was just blown away by the whole experience. The atmosphere that she set up on stage fit so well into the music. Most of the lighting, other than a bank of overhead lights, was provided by dozens of candles set behind Loreena and her 5 piece band. The musicians backing her up were great. She took a rather long intermission breaking the show up into two sets. The only disappointment was that she did not do All Souls Night. I still would say that of the 6 concerts in the last 2 months (Jane Siberry, Cocteau Twins, Sarah McLachlin, Tori Amos, Laurie Anderson) I would rate it #1. I've seen more shows in the last 2 months than I have in the last few years combined. All that has to happen to make me a happy man is for Happy to tour and Kate Bush to do a US Tour. Before I go I thought I would past on the info that Sarah McLachlin and October Project are both confirmed to be at the Singer/Songwriter Weekend July 16 & 17 at Penns Landing on the Philadelphia waterfront. This is a free outdoor concert that WXPN sponsors each year that showcases 15 or so artists. So if your in the area stop by for a day or two or great music (bring a low beach chair, the concrete step/seats of the ampitheatre can get quite uncomfortable over an entire day). Wayne A. Palmer WXPN-Music That Needs to be Heard ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 22:47:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Cheri Villines Subject: MacLachlan Hi, does anyone out there know tour dates for Sarah MacLachlan? I live in Fayetteville, AR and I would be glad to drive to Tulsa, Kansas City, or Little Rock, if she is playing there. Any similar info on Tori Amos would be appreciated also. Thanks cheri ======================================================================== From: Stuart Myerburg Date: Thu, 12 May 94 23:45:29 -0500 Subject: Hole Sue asked a while back: > Hey, am I the only ectophile who digs the new Hole album (heh heh) > "Live Through This"? A little rough 'n ready compared to your normal > ecto fare, but those of you who enjoy harder-edged female artists, > like the Breeders and P.J. Harvey, should check it out. I just picked it up tonight. When it was first released and all the critics started going crazy over it, I was *very* hesitant to buy it. Then, I heard "Miss World" and decided that the critics must be crazy and that Courtney is the worst singer in the world. But after hearing the song about a billion times now, I actually like it. So, I bought the album, and I'm glad I did. It's not nearly as abrasive as I suspected it would be. In fact, it's rather melodic. There really isn't a bad song in the bunch. My only complaint is that even though there are 12 songs, the CD only runs a little over 30 minutes. Some of the songs would benefit from being a bit longer. Anyway, it really is a shame that the album has already been eclipsed by all of the media hype surrounding Kurt's death and Courtney's private life. I think _Live Through This_ actually proves Courtney has talent and isn't just some joke. Stuart __________________________________________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg labspm@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu "There are a lot of hidden nerds. I'm aware of the exciting man in Trent The Nine Inch, but I can see the nerd in him, too." - Tori Amos __________________________________________________________________________ ======================================================================== From: jzitt@ssnet.com (Joseph Zitt) Subject: Re: Glad to finally sign on Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 00:03:26 -0400 (EDT) > Before I go I thought I would past on the info that Sarah McLachlin and > October Project are both confirmed to be at the Singer/Songwriter Weekend > July 16 & 17 at Penns Landing on the Philadelphia waterfront. This is a free > outdoor concert that WXPN sponsors each year that showcases 15 or so > artists. So if your in the area stop by for a day or two or great music (bring > a low beach chair, the concrete step/seats of the ampitheatre can get quite > uncomfortable over an entire day). Yow! I'll definitely be there (if possible)! Let's get other WXPN-area (PennJerDel?) Ectophiles together for this. ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 00:38:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "she listens like her head's on fire.." Subject: Tori Concert Tori Amos is coming to Buffalo at the end of June. First Sarah, now Tori! I'm being overwhelmed down here... now I only have to find someone to drag to the concert...heheh -Quenby staying up late to see the indigo girls... ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 May 94 22:09:54 PDT From: "John Relph" Subject: Re: A Slightly Off Topic Post, Maybe... Bob (Robert Lovejoy ) whites: > To which I might add: > Why are the most vocal anti-abortionists always in > favor of the Death penalty? Jennie says that should be "vocal right-to-lifers". -- John ======================================================================== From: Kjetil Torgrim Homme Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 08:58:20 +0200 Subject: Back with a vengenance (or: Norwegian potpourri) Hello, gang -- it's been a while since I last shared my wisdom with you. If you have had this nagging feeling that something was missing in your life -- well, now you know why. I've just been reading the last 512 messages, and a lot has happened! I was saddened to see that Alan Ezust left us (or did he?), but I can sympathise. I don't think alt.music.ecto is the solution, though (not that I've seen what its used for!). We distribute ecto into a local newsgroup here (one-way and with a month's expiry), and I find that a very satisfactory solution. Apana does this, too. +--- Valerie [April 12]: | FYI, subsriptions always arrive later than the magazine appears on | the newstand [...] This is _not_ true in Norway -- if the magazine hits the stands on Tuesday, subscribers will generally get it on Friday. Actually, I used to subscribe directly to a British computer weekly, and I got my copy a month before the kiosk. +--- woj (uffda!) [April 19]: | [...] Hey -- what's with that moniker? Jens, is this your doing? :-) +--- Meredith [April 19 and other Champagne Jam play lists] | HECTOR ZAZOU: "Black Stream" (Sahara Blue)* Isn't "Sahara Blue" just a wonderful album? Very varied, but beautifully put together. Some name-dropping: Ryuichi Sakamoto, Tim Simenon, John Cale, Khaled, David Sylvian, Anneli Drecker. (MTM 32) Incidentally, Crammed (Hector Zazou's label) has a sampler out called "The world according to Crammed". Included are tracks by Zap Mama, Sainkho, John Lurie, Tuxedomoon, YBU and many more, including the world's most perfect song (well, that's the feeling I get every time I listen to it); The Look of Love -- a Bacharach classic beautifully performed by Dominique Dalcan. Another outstanding track is "Ay Triste!" by Bobvan -- does anyone know more about them/her? This is sampler is a MUST BUY if you run across it. (CRAM 087) +--- Chris Sampson [April 19]: | I began working at WHUS, I found a tribute CD by Various artists | singing his [Leonhard Cohen's] songs (It's called "I'm Your Fan", a | take off on his album title, "I'm Your Man"). There was a parallel project in Norway (except this one was okayed with Leonhard Cohen first ;-) last autumn. Called "hadde maanen en soester..." ("if the moon had a sister...") it featured many of Norway's best female vocalists singing Cohen's songs in Norwegian (Kirsten Braathen Berg, Somebody's Darling and Sidsel Endresen to name a couple). Highly recommended, especially for Cohen fans. Actually, I believe Cohen is the foreign artist which has sold most copies of an album here in Norway. "I'm your man" sold 200,000 copies -- for reference, platinum is 50,000... When he released "The Future", he was "this weekend's guest" two times only separated by a couple of weeks on the weekend news special at NRK, Norway's dominant TV station (I still can't believe they did that.). Anyway -- Leonhard Cohen is an artist dear to the Norwegians, along with Chris de Burgh, Smokie and Bonnie Tyler (she was the best selling artist of 1993 -- can _you_ believe _that_??? *groan*). +--- Sam Warren [April 22]: | Mylene Farmer [...] _Dance Remixes_ [...] Although Eurodisco is | somewhat tamer than the current crop of House, Hip Hop and Hi-NRG | mixes we have here in the US, [...] Well, the European scene is a lot more than Eurodisco! It seems like Eurodisco is strictly a radio phenomenon (Haddaway, Dr. Alban, Ace of Base) -- I _never_ hear music like that when I'm out. I don't think European techno is any "tamer" than American techno. In any case -- I have Mylene Farmer's "L'Autre', which I rather enjoy, but I'm not ecstatic about it. I then bought "Dance Remixes" because I thought it would be groovy. Well, I found it thoroughly boring and bland, and I've probably only listened to it twice (if that!). +--- Wendy E. [April 25]: | Have any of you heard about the downloading of full-length songs | some folks are doing on the Internet now? I believe it is called | something like MOSAIC. It's a marketing thing to check out artists. Like Ethan pointed out, this isn't restricted to Mosaic, and neither is it restricted to the Internet Underground Music Archive on the WWW. I actually uploaded a full-length sample of the song Ecto to songs.sdsu.edu last April. (It has since been removed.) +--- Bradley N. Hutchinson [April 28]: | Do any of you know where I can get a copy of a dead can dance | discography? On the WWW, try http://autotelia.isv.uit.no/html/group/deadcandance.html That's part of the Eyesore database. Mail me if you want a plain text version. +--- Greg O'Rear: | With regard to "The Mask and Mirror," I was in my (new) favorite | record store yesterday, and heard something Irishy with a nice viola | solo. [...] I'm a sucker for violas. There's both violin and cello, but no viola... Violas are pretty rare instruments -- I can't think of any pop/rock artists which have used the viola in their music. Okay, I'm being awkward. I agree; the violin is the world's finest instrument for dance music, or completely different kinds of music -- Miranda Sex Garden is a nice example here. Miranda Sex Garden live is an experience which should not be missed. Unless you have a heart condition that is. Their music is just _so_ powerful. E.g., it took a full 15 minutes after the concert before I had regained control over my hands - they were numb and shaking -- in short, my central nervous system broke down completely. And that was only a one hour concert which included a short "intermission". I dear not think what state I'd be in if the concert had lasted a full two hours... +--- Justin Bur [May 9]: | [Anna Domino's] mysteries of america, which is better than | everything before it and worth paying expensive prices for. Ho-ho, I paid only $10 for it (now that's a _steal_ in Norway). It's a pleasant album, I think it will go down well with most Ectophiles. +--- Neil K. Guy [May 12]: | The [New York] Times (apparently inadvertently) added the letter "d" | to the word "exchange" in my original posting, thereby converting a | noun to a verb and thus instantly transforming my previously awkward | and clumsy, but nevertheless comprehensible, sentence into | semantically confused gibberish. I thought others might be interested in seeing the sentence at hand: | The abuse will continue to grow, various mechanisms to control it | will be installed to prevent a collapse of the system and the | openness and freedom of ideas exchange upon which Usenet was based | will become something rather different. I agree that the sentence becomes very odd with the added "d" :-) BTW, did you hear that everyones favourite net.lawyers have been thrown out of the bar association? But I must hasten to add that it wasn't because of the net.controversy. Similarily good news, I received mail from AOL's postmaster that J Iverson (another MAKE.MONEY.FAST) has had his account terminated because of Usenet abuse. So there is hope yet... Kjetil T. (trying really hard to be the successor to a "klaus" ;-) ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 13 May 94 00:01:04 PDT From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) Subject: WOMAD? Hi I just read in alt.music.peter-gabriel that WOMAD will be in SF in June. Does anybody know any more details? After missing Loreena and Sarah (for a matter of hours) I will *hate* it if I miss PG. Please post when/where whenever you find out. Thanks, Angelos PS. I just watched my tape of Sarah on Letterman for the nth time, and was blown away once again. Her voice near the end of 'Possession' was so great, soulful that I get shivers every time I listen to her. Hmmm, woj, you wouldn't happen to have taped any of the shows you saw would you? :-) ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 01:13:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Julie Kammerzell Subject: Roadtrip - Vancouver B.C. this Saturday Hey all ectophiles - I'm Julie and although I'm not on the official ecto listserv, I do hang out on the ecto IRC channel quite alot. I'm thinking about heading up to Vancouver B.C. this Saturday May 14th to meet 2 ectophiles and go to an irish dancing concert, and wondered if anyone wanted to take the roadtrip with me! I'll be driving from Corvallis, Oregon, and would leave Saturday (probably between 9 and noon in the morn). I could meet you on the way up if you're near I-5. The roadtrip will take a few hours and it would be lovely to have another nice ecto with me to travel with.. Please send email to me if you're interested - Julie Christina aka Bubba kammerzj@ucs.orst.edu ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 14:22:53 +0000 From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk (Nightwol) Subject: Re: Back with a vengenance (or: Norwegian potpourri) At 8:58 am 13/5/94 +0200, Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote: >There was a parallel project in Norway (except this one was okayed >with Leonhard Cohen first ;-) last autumn. Called "hadde maanen en >soester..." ("if the moon had a sister...") it featured many of >Norway's best female vocalists singing Cohen's songs in Norwegian >(Kirsten Braathen Berg, Somebody's Darling and Sidsel Endresen to name >a couple). Highly recommended, especially for Cohen fans. Yes! This is an excellent album. And not just for Cohen fans either :-) >instruments -- I can't think of any pop/rock artists which have used >the viola in their music. Try thinking of John Cale then. Ex-Velvet, sometime Lou Reed colaborator. -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** We tried to add it all up and got merely sunrise. *** *** Try putting that in a letter to someone in exile. *** ======================================================================== Date: 13 May 94 11:32:49 EDT From: Mike Mendelson Subject: Blood of Vicaritude chicago mail -- yes, I am missing mail... did they say the found mail would be delivered (I haven't heard anything about this... or are they doing something really obnoxious like holding it as evidence? :-). Peter Gabriel CD5 -- Blood of Eden (UK) -- just recieved this yesterday. It has the Mercy Street Remix and Blood of Eden Movie Mix. Both are sensational. But I'm really pissed that I missed the 3 UK Aimee Mann CD5's -- they are sold out and out of print (as usual). If anyone knows a place to get these, please email me. *way* cool that they played feed the fire at Kon. Sounds like Geoff is ectoman of the month! BTW, Geoff, please *do* post your angry letter to ecto. Any tidbit from the Kon would help feed my vicarious exigencies. -mjm ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)