Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1112 ecto, Number 1112 Thursday, 12 May 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Cheddar tori amos tix angela conway news ectoparty Tori, Sarah in Pittsburgh! trading Sarah tickets A heavy news day Thanks, and new topic Magic of the Net! Any Chicagophiles missing snailmail? Pop Culture Trivia (No Happy Content) Late night musical guests Re: Pop Culture Trivia (No Happy Content) Re: Late night musical guests ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 11 May 94 22:59:31 EDT From: torok@nynexst.com (David Torok) Subject: Cheddar Here's another parody to complement my first course of "Beer / Stumbling Towards Excedrin" from a few days ago. Enjoy! Thanks Meredith for permission to post this... "Cheddar" by Dave Torok (inspired by Woj & Meth Sung to the tune of "Leather" by Tori Amos with apologies and no gouda taste at all) Look, I'm crumbling aged gorgonzola, don't you want it with Tex-mex? I'll use cream and gouda and edam But I won't use my year-old swiss Oh, god, it's aged in the cellar? oh, god, I hate greyere! If love is mozzareller, And it's not the feta, Hand me my cheddar! I could just pretend it's Velveeta The dish would lose all sense of cheese. But why do I need quesadillas When you can't taste imported brie's. Oh, god, it's aged in the cellar? oh, god, I hate greyere! If love is mozzareller, Put through the shredder, Hand me my cheddar! I almost made dinner all rotten With a nice old parmesan "IN A SENSE" you're making au gratin So you should use your best fromage (chorus) ======================================================================== From: Jeff.vanderyt@um.cc.umich.edu Date: Thu, 12 May 94 04:15:56 EDT Subject: tori amos tix this is actually just a re-dissemination of info which was posted yesterday. but it needed repeating since the local alternative info. has said nothing about it: so KEY WORD: TORI AMOS IN DETROIT TICKETS ON SALE THIS FRIDAY 5/13/94 PERFORMING AT THE STATE THEATER. well, thanks to gibsond for his info see ya all later, jeff ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 09:43:49 +0100 From: imy@wcl-rs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Young) Subject: angela conway news [woj forwards info about Gilbert/Lewis/Conway rereleases] Hmm, most interesting, woj. I don't remember any previous discussion of Angela Conway here; maybe it was before my time :) Actually, I don't really know anything other than the 1989? A. C. Marias album _One of our Girls is Missing_ (on Mute, I think). Certainly I wasn't aware that they'd previously collaborated. I bought _One of our Girls..._ at the time, so I couldn't say about its availability now. I've always loved the texture of sound on that album. Could someone remind where "Marias" came from? Is it Gaelic? Angela Conway's middle name? Has anyone heard any of this older material? Cheers, Ian. ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 06:53:52 -0400 From: timc@world.std.com (Tim Cook (aka limeygit)) Subject: ectoparty Our mail link has been down and our mail has been disappearing faster than Happy samples at a Kate convention! Soif anyone has sent me mail or expecting a reply (after the ectoparty I now owe quite a few people tapes and CDs and stuff!) - I'm not ignoring you - honest! tim PS It's been a really expensive week at the CD shop - Julia Fordham, Tom Robinson, The Pretenders etc etc. I had to have then all!! ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 12:52:46 +0000 (GMT) From: tsiekn Subject: This is just a little note to say "Thanks Geoff!." (the party,my first ectophilic party,was great)..also meeting other ectophiles for the first time was really good..I'd never met other people with similar tastes in music as me before in my whole life.. Anyway I better go now.. Kerry.. ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 11:47:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Kate_Tabasko@transarc.com Subject: Tori, Sarah in Pittsburgh! Salutations, ectozoids! I don't know how many of you live in my neck of the woods (Pittsburgh PA), but there are a couple of ecto-relevant concerts you may be interested in: Tori Amos: Friday, 1 July, 8:00 at the Fulton Theater Sarah McLachlan: Thursday, 14 July, 7:30 at the Station Square Amphitheatre You can charge tickets at these numbers (all 412 area code): Tori: 456-6666 or 333-SEAT Sarah: 391-1111 I have no idea what the basic ticket costs or the charge-by-phone fees are. Of the two, the one I really want to see is Sarah's, but I suspect I will be out of the country that week. Don't it just figger? :( Anyway, I hope this helps some of you out there! If anyone wants more info, I would be happy to try and track it down for you. -- Kate ---------------------- "Life will be happier for the on-line individual because the people with whom one interacts most strongly will be selected more by commonality of interests and goals than by accidents of proximity" - J.C.R. Licklider, 1968 ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 09:42:58 -0700 From: hinshaw@cs.washington.edu (Kevin Hinshaw) Subject: trading Sarah tickets What a way to start off my posts to Ecto -- pleading for help! :) I've been waiting eagerly for months for Sarah McLachlan to *finally* make it back to Seattle (Neile can verify that, right?). I get great seats for the show, and what happens? I have an evening rehearsal the night she's going to be here! Aargh! So I have two questions: 1) How long has the opening act been for her show? (The Devlins are opening here.) 2) Are there any Portland or Vancouver BC folks who'd be interested in trading tickets with me for Sarah's show? The Seattle show is Sunday, May 22nd. While I'm here, I should take the opportunity to thank Neile for convincing me to check out Ecto. You haven't heard much from me (I tend to be the quiet type), but I've been reading my ecto mail religiously. What a terrific group of people -- my only regret is that I didn't join sooner! ;-) Thanks much! -Kevin ======================================================================== From: al@167-290-33.hexacom.com (al) Date: 12 May 94 09:57:37 -0500 Subject: A heavy news day U15289@uicvm.bitnet wrote: > and it occurred to me that to play the new South African > national anthem under shots of the eclipse would be an ideal > backdrop for the weather breaks on tonight's _World News Now_. An eclipse prevents the light from shining. The passage of power to the Blacks in South Africa is exactly the opposite: light will finally shine on the majority of people down there who, until recently, were verboten of even voting. IMHO. Alain al@hexacom.com ============================================== ======================================================================== From: al@167-290-33.hexacom.com (al) Date: 12 May 94 09:46:33 -0500 Subject: Thanks, and new topic johnh@astro.as.utexas.edu (John Higdon) wrote: > Are there any other songs (Happy or other) which either describe > facets of these two categories, or which express other ways of > dealing with pain? Peter Hammill has dealt a lot with this, on many levels. It'd be futile to describe in a general manner all of his work here as his carrer so far spans some 25 albums, if not more. But here's a sample of his lyrics: Arrival at immunity from all age, all fear and all end... why do I pretend? Our essence is distilled and all familiar taste is now drained and though the purity is maintained it leaves us sterile, living through the millions of years, a laugh as close as any tear; living, if you claim that all that entails is breathing, eating, defecating, screwing, drinking, spewing, sleeping, sinking ever down and down and ultimately passing away time which no longer has any meaning. [...] What is this dullest and bluntest of pains, such that my eyes never close without feeling it there? What abject despair demands an end to all things of infinity? If we have gained, how do we now meet the cost? What have we bargained, what have we lost? What have we relinquished, never knowing it was there? [...] But now the nuptial bed is made, the dowry has been paid: the toothless, haggard features of eternity now welcome me between the sheets to couple with her withered body - my wife. Hers forever, hers forever, hers forever, in still life. - "Still Life" - Peter Hammill, disc: "Still Life", 1975 (the song is much more longer than that, these are only excerpts) Although Hammill's approach is more of a describing nature than 'dealing with', the passion with which he expresses the topic contains the gestalt itself. Alain al@hexacom.com ============================================== ======================================================================== From: "Neil K. Guy" Subject: Magic of the Net! Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 11:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Ah, yes, the net is indeed a bizarre and wonderful place. Not only did I meet the love of my life through the net, not only have I met a very lovely bunch of folks in both ecto the list and ecto the IRC channel, but, in the latest weird instalment, I've ended up in the New York Times. All completely and utterly by chance! Essentially, last week I was grousing on the Usenet group news.admin.policy about increasing abuse of the system as the net itself grows exponentially. Then, night before last, I got a mysterious email message from a guy from the Times saying essentially "Hi! I've quoted you in an article for Wednesday's edition of the NYT; hope you don't mind." Just like that. Couldn't stop laughing when I read it. :) And on top of it all I was misquoted! The Times (apparently inadvertently) added the letter "d" to the word "exchange" in my original posting, thereby converting a noun to a verb and thus instantly transforming my previously awkward and clumsy, but nevertheless comprehensible, sentence into semantically confused gibberish. My remark was also next to a sidebar featuring a picture of net.slimes Canter & Siegel. As Mitch suggests, perhaps this is guilt by association? (the article, in the business section, was about the anarchy of Usenet and how some folks like me are fretting over abuse of the open system by selfish sociopaths) Lessons to be learnt? Well, I suppose it's that one should always craft one's words with care prior to posting them blindly to the Net. One never knows when a roving reporter for one of the most influential newspapers in the world may stumble across the post and immortalize your words in newsprint! (I felt a bit silly reading the article, as my quote was really awkwardly written; the extra letter notwithstanding) And even the eminent New York Times can mangle one's words beyond recognition. ob music: I went for sushi with my mother yesterday at a restaurant that features a little water-filled trough running around the counter. The trough has little boats which float by the sushi bar, laden with various delicacies. Which was a cute gimmick that sort of made up for the fairly unremarkable sushi. But, interestingly, the restaurant sound system seemed to be a 5 disc CD changer in random shuffle mode, bearing the Cranberries, Sarah McLachlan and three discs of regular schlock. Made for an interesting musical evening, what with some of the more exquisite tracks off FTE interspersed by the usual restaurant fare. Bit embarrassing, though: "Ice Cream" makes me wanna cry, and I feel awkward feeling that way in a public place... :) - Neil K. (wondering how the Net will surprise him next!) -- 49N 16' 123W 7' / Vancouver, BC, Canada / neil_k_guy@sfu.ca ======================================================================== From: brianb@netcom.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Any Chicagophiles missing snailmail? Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 12:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Some of you might have already heard about this, but if not... CHICAGO (AP) -- The arrest warrant for letter carrier Robert K. Beverly is something like the 2 tons of mail found at his burning apartment: undelivered. Beverly was charged with theft and delaying the mail under a warrant issued Tuesday. He has not been apprehended. He was on a weeklong vacation and not due back at work until Monday, said Postal Inspector Mike Szluka. If convicted, Beverly, 30, could get five years in prison and be fined $250,000. Firefighters dousing a minor fire at Beverly's suburban Palatine townhouse this weekend found 2,300 pounds of undelivered mail -- more than 2,500 first-class letters and more than 300 parcels. Some of the mail was 6 years old, destined for residents of Chicago's northwest side. Beverly wasn't home at the time of the fire, but his wife and two children were. No injuries were reported. This year, at least four caches of undelivered mail have been found in the Chicago area. There have been 117 such finds nationwide this year, but postal officials say Chicago has the worst problem. -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@netcom.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 16:11:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Sampson Subject: Pop Culture Trivia (No Happy Content) File this under This-is-bugging-the-sh**-out-of-all-of-us: I relayed a question to my coworkers posed by my friend ken, only to find that one of them had been trying to remember the name of the item in question "for years"....yeah, we need lives here. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Does ANYONE remember the name of the candy bar bearing the following description: Available in the 60s. Slender and cylindrical in shape. Chocolate (or containing chocolate). ...and here's the clincher... The advertisement for the candy bar informed us viewers that it was "...eaten by astronauts.". Please....we feeble-minded neurotics are losing much sleep over this issue. Odd observation: The people asked, to date, seem to fall into two groups: Those, who by the third descriptor, *volunteer* the phrase "...eaten by astronauts.", and those who don't register any recognition *until* hearing the slogan. Which group do *you* fall into? And, while we're wasting bandwidth.... Our clinic manager is getting married, and doesn't want to use "The Bride cuts the cake...." for when the....well,....when the bride cuts the cake. Similarly, the bride doesn't want to use "When I'm 64" by the Beatles. Does anyone have any suggestions? They are willing to entertain "strange" ideas, though, considering the elderly relatives likely to be present, profanity is probably out. Again, any help would be appreciated. Email your responses to: chris@neuron.uchc.edu Thank you all for being so diverse (and odd :) a group as to probably supply the answers to the above questions. Chris Sampson ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 18:00:18 -0400 (EDT) From: S Trowbridge Subject: Late night musical guests LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN, 11:35 P.M. EST, CBS 5/12 Elvis Costello and the Attractions 5/13 Traffic 5/16 Travis Tritt 5/19 Mariah Carey 5/20 Tony Bennett 5/23 Jimmy Buffett 5/27 The Pretenders THE TONIGHT SHOW, 11:35 P.M. EST, NBC 5/12 Huey Lewis and the News 5/13 Tony Toni Tone 5/16 James Taylor 5/17 Julio Iglesias 5/23 Jon Secada 5/26 Rob Wasserman and Bob Weir 5/27 Gin Blossoms LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN, 12:35 A.M. EST, NBC 5/12 Indigo Girls 5/16 Steel Pulse 5/17 Jonathan Richman 5/19 Marshall Crenshaw *** People who receive ecto in digest form may subscribe to the ectotv mailing list and receive these bulletins immediately -- including late- breaking updates, if we get 'em! Send mail to trow@access.digex.net. *** --Posted by Sue Trowbridge ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 18:03:22 -0400 (EDT) From: S Trowbridge Subject: Re: Pop Culture Trivia (No Happy Content) > File this under This-is-bugging-the-sh**-out-of-all-of-us: > > Does ANYONE remember the name of the candy bar bearing the > following description: > Available in the 60s. > Slender and cylindrical in shape. > Chocolate (or containing chocolate). > ...and here's the clincher... > The advertisement for the candy bar informed us viewers that it was > "...eaten by astronauts.". YES! YES! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPACE FOOD STICKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Made by Pillsbury. Yum, yum. They came in several flavors, including peanut butter. My friend Scott and I were talking about these just a couple of weeks ago. They were GREAT!! Bring 'em back, I say! Sorry if I seem overexcited. I just happen to have very fond memories of 'em, is all. Yes, I'm waxing nostalgic over '60s (and early '70s) junk food... --Sue Trowbridge ======================================================================== From: Stuart Myerburg Date: Thu, 12 May 94 18:22:52 -0500 Subject: Re: Late night musical guests To add to the list, people on alt.music.alternative have been saying Sonic Youth will be on Letterman on Tuesday May 17. I don't know if they are correct, but I thought I would let everyone know just in case. Stuart __________________________________________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg labspm@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu "When I finally got to see them live, I was transformed in to a hysterical 9-year-old girl at a Beatles concert." - Kurt Cobain on Shonen Knife __________________________________________________________________________ ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)