Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #577 ecto, Number 577 Tuesday, 18 May 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* aimee is divine aimee is divine. WARNING Silliness alert! ;-) Re: Tidbits replies Cyndi Lauper etc. An original post TREND? Moodswings! A perfect day ======================================================================== Date: 17 May 93 14:39:58 EDT From: Mike Mendelson Subject: aimee is divine the vowel-conservative brni queries: > so, uh, who *is* the artist? > i *need* to own that album. PJ Harvey, album: Dry. Her (their?) new album is good too, a little more brisk. I've head PJH referred to both as a band and a woman. I have been listening to Aimee Mann's album and it has possessed my brain and obsessed my mind. There are no weak songs. She is a brilliant writer and singer. This is easily the best of her work I have heard (i.e. it beats all the Til Tuesday stuff). I wish the album wasn't so depressing, though, since it seems I am fated to be listening to it repeatedly until it finally wears off. Ugh. Any word on whether she is touring outside of New England? -mjm ======================================================================== From: "Michael Blackmore" Date: 17 May 93 15:08:55 EST Subject: aimee is divine. WARNING Silliness alert! ;-) mjm asks: > Any word on whether she is touring outside of New England? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "Outside of New England" What on earth are you talking about? There's nothing outside of New England. Sure there are rumors about explorers managing to get by the demons that guard the edge of our realm and that they saw briefly other lands, but that's just rumors. There's not real conclusive proof. ;-) - Michael B. ======================================================================== From: brianb@lobby.ti.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Re: aimee is divine. WARNING Silliness alert! ;-) Date: Mon, 17 May 93 14:38:02 CDT > mjm asks: > > > Any word on whether she is touring outside of New England? > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > "Outside of New England" What on earth are you talking about? > There's nothing outside of New England. Sure there are rumors about > explorers managing to get by the demons that guard the edge of our > realm and that they saw briefly other lands, but that's just rumors. > There's not real conclusive proof. ;-) Well, that would explain why Happy has never made it to Texas! *sigh* br!an -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@lobby.ti.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 17 May 93 20:23:00 MET From: brage@sphere.home.id.dth.dk (Jens P. Brage) Subject: Re: Tidbits Hi! Forwarded from Chris: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From: ithil!mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU!boek (Christopher Boek) To: sphere!brage Subject: Re: Tidbits > > > I'm brave.. I'll admit to being a closet Cyndi fan... ;) > > Wow! Welcome to the Out-of-the-closet-Cyndi-fans-support-group! > > Now we're two... ;-) > Make that three, although I've never really been in the closet about it ... I saw her 'A Night To Remember' Show, and really enjoyed it. It was one of the first 'big' concerts I saw i think. She can write some really great songs (although she doesn't write all of the stuff herself). I've heard one song off her new album, but I haven't seen the album anywhere yet. I bought my Suzanne Vega tickets today, 10 rows from the front right in the middle. It's at a fantastic venue - the Melbourne Concert Hall. I saw Youssou N'Dour there in 1991 and it's really going to suit Suzanne's style I think - I can't wait, and it's over a month and a half away ... how will I cope ..... ? I haven't received the tape yet Bob, but thanks again for all the trouble you've gone to. I really appreciate it :) :). I went to see Things of Stone and Wood on Friday night. It was a fantastic show, and I really recommend them to you guys. They're a really inventive band and I think they're going to be _big_ soon. Looking back on it it was a pretty busy weekend, I also saw a couple of films: 'The Crying Game' and the new Hal Hartley film 'Simple Men'. I heartily echo all previous rave reviews for the Crying Game. It's an excellent film. It hits very hard in parts, and was extremely powerful all the way through. And Miranda Richardson was _fantastic_. What an actress !!! Simple Men was just a tad different :). It was very silly, as I'm told all of Hal's films are. It's the first of his that I've seen, and it was great :). Anyway, work beckons ... Chris. -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||Christopher Boek - boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | || Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | / "Anybody remotely interesting is mad in |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| \_/\_/\_/\_/\__/(:*- some way or another" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Well, I'll just add that I didn't consider a closet necessary either. :-) In fact, if anybody stumbles across some interesting Cyndi Lauper (such as the Blue Angel(?)) stuff, let me know! Btw., the song that surprised me the most by *not* being by Cyndi Lauper was "What's Going On": This song fits her so well that I thought it was her own for a long time... Jens P. Brage | No time gives us reasons for why it just goes by brage@sphere.home.id.dth.dk | And no man can stop the seasons /\ | But so many men will try \SphereSoft | - Jefferson Airplane, "Common Market Madrigal" ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 17 May 93 15:39:54 EDT From: woj Subject: replies you know, one of these days, i should really start some threads instead of just reply to everyone else's...but not right now. Mike Mendelson sez: >I have spent a ridiculous amount of money on CDs the last couple of weeks. tell me about it. unfortunately, not much of it would appeal to too many ecto ears (except for angelos' newly noised aural sensitivities...). there are a few things. maybe i'll review them tonight. yeah... dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) sez: >By the way, one of my favorite bands, negativland, is have you heard the new one (_free_) yet? what's it like? i've heard mixed views on this so far.... sez: >WRT Woj's musings on Bitnet: Isn't Kiri on it along with him and me? My posts >win me messages confirming delivery to the Brown newsgroup gateway, but not to >Woj or Kiri. i'm on the digest. i assume that kiri is as well or that she is using that frenet accoutn from which i've seen her post to love-hounds with. either way, you'd not see bounce messages from her. >A more important question is whether Rutvm1 sporadically sits >on their posts at length, as it does with mine. yup. rutvm1 is a pain sometimes and i don't know what motivates it to be so. this is particularly annoying for me know since all my mail from bitnet is sent through their twice (once to go to woj@rems.rutgers.edu and a second time to get forwarded to here). grrrr. Angelos Kyrlidis sez: >Peter Hammill is another >one of the greats, who has had absolutely no commercial success. one of the "bloody triangle" (as a few of us like to call them): robyn hitch- cock, roy harper and peter. robyn's been getting some modicum of success in the "alternative" community lately though so we might have to drop him (isn't it weird how this turns up again and again, senor kosky? ;) i was hooked on hammill by a friend of mine who i met through a robyn conn- nection. she, in turn, was hooked on hammill by someone whom she met through a robyn connection. weird weird weird. i dunno where it is best to start with hammill. all of it is somewhat hard to come by - the older stuff is mostly out of print (though caroline has re-released much of it on it blue plate special seris - though that does not make it easy to find) and the newer stuff is either out of print (courtesy of engima's demise) or import only, such as the last three albums which are sheer emotional towers of power: _the fall of the house of usher_, _fire- ships_ and _the noise_. if anyone is really interested, i could make a sam- pler, i suppose. drop me a line and i'll concoct something. Neile Graham sez: >Anyway, sheelanagigs are wonderful. {...} Scholars assume >that they are remnants of woman-centred prehistoric religions. there is also speculation that the sheelanagig is an outward expression of male fear of female power. by naming (or sculpting) this fear, this was supposed to control it. or something along those lines. for a similar idea, see the first story in tanith lee's latest collection of short stories: _the book of the dead_. depeche@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (S. A. Ezust) sez: >Big Hat presents a breath of fresh air - their style is unique - as far as >I know, there are no other groups which are doing anything like Big Hat. to a degree, i'd say that hugo largo was doing something like what big hat are doing...but hugo largo is, basically speaking, no more and they never went as far as to incorporate thing other than guitars and violins into their music as big hat have. this resemblance is strongest on "pluck song." i'm with vickie: "garden of edith" is goddesshead. +woj ======================================================================== From: "Michael Blackmore" Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 16:40:55 EST Subject: Cyndi Lauper etc. Well, to celebrate having a working turntable again I went to an used record store and picked up: Cyndi Lauper's _True Colors_ for 50 cents (I'll buy anything for .50) Blondie's _Blondie_ for $2.00 I'm a big Blondie fan anyway, but I didn't have their first album, so I'm excited beyond belief. Cyndi I've never listened to much, but since there are several Cyndi fans here, I figured I give it a try. Who knows maybe you'll have another Cyndi fan soon! - Michael B. ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 15:51:57 CDT From: Subject: An original post Jeff says: >but while you're at the record store, grab any 'Til Tuesday albums you >can find (particularly _Welcome Home_ or _Everything's Different Now_). >Trust me. ;-) Allow me to yang to Jeff's yin, as it were: while you're at the record store, grab any 'Til Tuesday albums you can find, particularly _Voices Carry_. Trust me :-). The same invisible hand that doesn't work in macroeconomics may be working better when it comes to my tastes in music: turns out that Lauren Christy was one of the new artists whose CD's I was inspired to get on faith, as it were, while disk-shopping last week. I may well have much to look forward to, from what I read in these pages. WRT Michael's open-ended questions: Moodswing (it may be singular rather than plural, I forget) came out with an album recently on which Chrissie Hynde does a guest shot on "State of Independence," a good song that appears in the film _Single White Female_. As for Betty Boo, I contributed a writeup to Neile's guide that goes more or less thusly: My exposure to BB has been somewhat limi- ted, because I've never felt it imperative to listen more extensively. The one time I listened to her first album, it came across to me like a blend of rap and low-quality R&B/dance. For all that, I recommend the interview with her in last September's _Q_ magazine, which reveals her to be a more interesting person than her music does. (I mentioned all this to Vickie once, and she said that she likes BB better than I do. If you want a second opinion, I suggest you ask her.) WRT the "undeliverable for 3 days" messages Brian's been getting: I've gotten some myself, not specifiying to whom the posts were undeliverable, even though they seemed to get through to the list just fine. I sent the headers to Jess- ica, and suggest that Brian do the same. WRT Victoria Williams: _Swing the Statue_ is indeed out on CD; I don't know what's what with _Happy Come Home_. As I mentioned in these pages a couple of weeks ago, an album of covers of her songs, with some of the revenues going toward her medical bills, will be coming out this summer. And, of course, there's her trackon the _GFL_ soundtrack. _Simple Men_ is indeed a good and worthy film, well worth your while to go see if it plays where you are. Whadja know--out of other people's postings to react to, and not an original thought from me in the lot after all. Sometimes these things happen :-). Mitch ======================================================================== From: depeche@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (S. A. Ezust) Date: Mon, 17 May 93 21:52:19 EDT Subject: TREND? Vickie posted earlier that a Canadian distributor of Happy is called "Trend". I have a friend who is a music critic for the Montreal Hour newspaper, and he also has radio contacts. He never heard of Trend before. Please, if any of you have a contact name and phone number, send it to me ASAP and I'll get my friend to contact them. We need promos, press kits, the whole shpeel. -- | Alan Ezust depeche@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca Montreal, Quebec, Canada | |------------- McGill University School of Computer Science ----------------| "Lick the carpet, dust the dog, mow the windows, shine the socks... You've got to keep things CLEAN!" - Edward Ka-Spel ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 17 May 93 21:53 EDT From: robert@deepspace.nj00802.sai.com (Robert Lovejoy) Subject: Moodswings! Hi Ecto! I LOVE Moodswings! It's kind of like Enigma, but with bass! Fred Hood, who's involved with the Pretenders, among others, including Jon and Vangelis, Chrissy Hynde, Jeff Beck, Linda Muriel, and Liz Upchurch. Chrissy Sings on "Spiritual High"(State of Independence), a nifty little ditty that runs as a motif throughout the album. It's one of those albums you put on and it carries you off... very dreamy stuff, yet it has backbone. I'd highly recommend it to Ecto! Oh, and you can count me in for Cyndi Lauper, too. That's three! (No relevance to Moodswings; different styles!). Once again a little tape delay - the weather was so nice this weekend I wound up at the shore with the family. I'm pulling for bad weather next weekend and I'll get that Music-Only tape together! Welcome Jim C. to Ecto! A friend of the family, no less! As you can tell, Happy's come quite a long way since you knew her. We're all here to help her along! It's great to have you with us! See you all down the line! Bob Lovejoy ======================================================================== From: Tommy Persson Date: Tue, 18 May 93 05:13:33 +0200 Subject: A perfect day After meeting Klaus and Claudia at Helicon and listening to Happy for the first time (Equipoise and Warpaint) I realised I had to order all the CDs immediately. So when I returned to Sweden I did that. Today I was going to fetch my VCR that had been repaired and when I woke up I thought that the day would become perfect if also had a parcel from Aural Gratification to collect at the post office. And lo and behold there was a note in my mail saying I had a big letter waiting for me at the post office. So now there is at least one set of Happy's CDs in Sweden. For your information, the postage cost was $14.09. I did something today that I do not know if it really was a good idea. I was preparing a gore and splatter quiz on video for a local science fiction convention and between the scenes I had to have some music.... I can tell you that my birthday is 641125 and I also like Cyndi Lauper and Blondie. One artist I like and have not seen mentioned here is Cassell Webb. I have four of her CDs, Llano (1985), Songs of a Stranger (1989), Conversations At Dawn (1990) and House of Dreams (1992), but this is really all I know about her. Does anybody have any more information? Tommy Persson ! A finger! And as you can Linkoping University ! see it is better designed Department of Computer and Information Science ! for pressing buttons than Sweden ! holding writing implements. tpe@ida.liu.se ! -- Tarrant, Blake's Seven -- ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)