Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #575 ecto, Number 575 Saturday, 15 May 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Hammill/Gong Re: gong/hammill/singles/apartheid/undergrads hmmmmmmm... Get Me Out of Here, Take Me To My Homeland Too clever by half? and other stories hammill/gong/power/duct tape/pink "Whatever" Gabriel in Roch. Re: F* dich selber... ======================================================================== From: mpower@jpmorgan.com Date: Fri, 14 May 93 13:19:08 EDT Subject: Hammill/Gong I seem to remember...wasn't one of the VDGG albums replete with sinister black uniforms and neo-nazi salutes? Hmmm... Gong (who are probably at the other extreme end of the political spectrum (Anarchy))..ah brings me back to fond memories of electric cheeses and cups of tea...and a gig I went to in paris in 1974 was it?...Notre Dame hall...huge place.... first up was this dude who played vibraphone thru a gazillion effects boxes...not bad... Then some other band, then Hawkwind (who were totally incredible) and Gong, who I had never seen before...awesome...then, suddenly, right in the middle of the gong set, these guys in sinister uniforms came in (Gendarmes), and beat up all the people in the front few rows. Life is strange isn't it. cheers! Marc Power (who has decided to start thinking about a vacation) ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Hammill/Gong Date: Fri, 14 May 93 13:46:51 EDT From: sidilryK solegnA Hi, Marc writes: >I seem to remember...wasn't one of the VDGG albums >replete with sinister black uniforms and neo-nazi >salutes? Although I am no expert, I seriously doubt it. I am willing to bet that Peter Hammill is not a fascist, since he is close friends with Peter Gabriel and at one point had the same management. Judging from the other people PG has collaborated with (Sinead, KaTe, Tom Robinson) I would assume that if he ever used neo-nazi salutes, it was probably in the same context as the goose steps that PG uses in Games without Frontiers, and the neo-fascist news broadcast that TR included in Power in the Darkness. Please someone tell me I am not wrong. Angelos ======================================================================== From: depeche@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (S. A. Ezust) Date: Fri, 14 May 93 14:17:19 EDT Subject: Re: gong/hammill/singles/apartheid/undergrads I've been pretty silent lately - I have to post reviews of Lauren Christy Big Hat Opium Den but this will probably not happen until the weekend. However, [In message "gong/hammill/singles/apartheid/undergrads" on May 13, brni writes:] | | vickie says: | | >Warpaint will very shortly be released in South Africa on the REA label, | >distributed by EMI. | > | aren't people supposed to be boycotting SA? Official sanctions on the Republic of South Africa were lifted in November 1991, if I recall. Now the only embargos which still apply are for weapons and oil. People can still make their own decisions about whether they want to boycott South Africa, but the current concensus is that most of the people who are responsible for the situation there, and who would be hurt the most by the economic sanctions, are doing what they can (which is probably not bloody much, considering the gridlock which exists) to smooth the path towards democracy in the country. South Africa is probably the only country in the SADACC region (unless Botswana qualifies, but I don't know very much about Botswana right now) where you can find a decent selection of compact discs. The people who do have CD players but live in the neighbouring countries all skip across to SA to buy the new releases. To have a south african distributor means that the music will be available all over the region. Since most of the other countries have fake currency (except Botswana), there is hardly any international record distribution in the other countries of that region. So the South African distribution deal is actually much more important than it may seem at first. I personally know at least 5 people in Zimbabwe and South Africa who will be delighted to hear that Happy Rhodes is locally available! -- | Alan Ezust depeche@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca Montreal, Quebec, Canada | |------------- McGill University School of Computer Science ----------------| "Lick the carpet, dust the dog, mow the windows, shine the socks... You've got to keep things CLEAN!" - Edward Ka-Spel ======================================================================== Date: 14 May 93 14:46:13 EDT From: Mike Mendelson Subject: hmmmmmmm... Neile explicates: > Victorian era but a few did. For those who dnot in the know about such > things (I didn't know unitl my trip to Wales) a sheelanagig is a protrayal > [gonads, etc.] Sure. I knew that. Yup. Right. Actually, when I was listening to that song for the first time on the way to work this morning, I thought "what interesting nonsense syllables... i wonder if i would ever think them up," which is something that I often wonder when I hear songs: could I have written that song? [I have written a several songs, BTW.] I especially felt this way about some Dylan songs that seemed like just a string of silly rhymes that anyone could throw together, so like, what was the big deal about Bob? Well, now I know. :-) -mjmagainandprobablyfortheduration ======================================================================== From: Tree of Schnopia Subject: Get Me Out of Here, Take Me To My Homeland Date: Fri, 14 May 93 15:05:22 EDT ...NOT. It's been wonderful being a part of ecto this year, and being introduced to an incredible, incredible artist through the net, but the time has come...sniff...to leave you. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! (Oh, don't cry, Drew, you'll be back this fall...) That's right, folks, finals are ending for me this Sunday, and so I shall be packing myself off to Oneida (ugh) for the summer, and so I shall be without net access until I come back this fall. I'd love to keep getting ecto while I'm gone, but my mailbox would be full before you could say "cohabitate." So I'm afraid I shall have to cancel for the summer, and I hope there'll be ectophiles to vouch for me when I send away for the new CD single (YIPPIE!). *HUGS* to all, especially Vickie, whose signature on gaffa was probably what got me interested in seeking out Warpaint in the first place, and who's a complete sweetheart. I'll have e-mail till Sunday, and anything sent to me should stay in my account until I get back. Bye, everybody! Be back soon! Love, Drewcifer ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 May 1993 16:07:01 CDT From: Subject: Too clever by half? and other stories Sidilryk sidilryks: >Helen Leicht ... (anybody notice >how she pronounces Equipoise? -ekwipoy :-)), The way I see it, the relationship is simple: two ekwipoy's add up to one Equipoise (at least their absolute values do, the cited example being signed negatively) :-). If you're still not convinced, think of it this way: half an Equipoise is better than none :-). WRT sheelanagigs: My first encounter with the term--indeed, my only one until I either read it in ecto on some previous occasion, or on some recording which owes its ownership by me to ecto--was in late 1968, when I encountered it in Robert Rimmer's novel _The Harrad Experiment_. As I recall the scenario, some know-it-all was telling a woman called Sheila how her name was derived from you-know-what Celticism, albeit hyphenated so it came out "sheela-na-gig"; I don't remember if the same phenomenon was cited as the referent of the term, but it surely must have been something erotically relevant. Next time I'm at the U of C, I'll have to remember to look whether the designer of the original buildings worked any sheelas (an apparent residual of watching _Good Morning America_, originating from Australia, the last couple of days :-) ) into the gargoyles on the facades. Even in the days of the Columbian Expo, Hyde Park was sort of a swinging place in its own way; twould be a pity if the campus architecture of the period failed to reflect that :-). I haven't time to check it empirically, but I may have devoted more space to my second topic of the day than to my first. If I had it to do over, I may well have found it advisable to reverse them, and title this essay something on the order of "He and sheelanagig and other stories." :-) :-(' Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 May 93 20:32:06 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) Subject: Re: hmmmmmmm... hmmmmm. you know, months and months and months ago i heard a song on wxpn (of course while i was waiting on a customer), and i caught the words "sounds sort of like a mixture of tori amos and patti smith" and "sheelanagig" from the dj. so i went to tower records and looked up Nagig, Sheela, to no avail, then Nogig, Nugig, Mugig, etc etc etc. then i looked it up as Sheelanagig, but couldn't find it either. so i figured that maybe it was the song name, not the artist, and i called wxpn, but they were clueless. so, uh, who *is* the artist? i *need* to own that album. brni "what we want and what we need has been confused" REM ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 May 93 20:40:08 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) Subject: hammill/gong/power/duct tape/pink marc says: > >I seem to remember...wasn't one of the VDGG albums >replete with sinister black uniforms and neo-nazi >salutes? > >Hmmm... > i seem to remember pink floyd using lots of sinister black uniforms and armbands and the like in _the wall_. hmmm.... >Gong (who are probably at the other extreme end >of the political spectrum (Anarchy))..ah brings >me back to fond memories of electric cheeses and >cups of tea...and a gig I went to in paris in >1974 was it?...Notre Dame hall...huge place.... >first up was this dude who played vibraphone >thru a gazillion effects boxes...not bad... >Then some other band, then Hawkwind (who were >totally incredible) and Gong, who I had never >seen before...awesome...then, suddenly, right in >the middle of the gong set, these guys >in sinister uniforms came in (Gendarmes), and beat >up all the people in the front few rows. > not just anarchy, but *floating* anarchy! the great thing is: its 1993 and they are STILL DOING IT! and words of wisdom: next time you go to a gong concert in paris, bring lots of rolls of duct tape (sticks to uniforms just fine :) >Life is strange isn't it. > >cheers! > >Marc Power >(who has decided to start thinking about a vacation) > brni ****************************************************************************** Oh, I'd love that. | And on his dying bed I am sleepless nights | I'd be a mineral deposit, | the dirty angels I am actors in dreams | a ball of mica | flying over him like I am concience. | inside a rock. | buzzards asked him Karen Finley | Then there'd be no whistles | Do you confess? no radios, | Do you confess? no screams. | Diamanda Galas ****************************************************************************** WE DON'T WANNA GROW YOUR STINKING BANANAS ANYMORE! ======================================================================== Subject: "Whatever" Date: Sat, 15 May 93 00:07:01 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu I believe it was Mike Mendelsohn who, two days or so ago, gave a brief review of Aimee Mann's _Whatever_, one of several discs he'd bought during a binge. His comments that it was the one disc of several he'd bought to which he'd really listened, *and* _Everything's Different Now_ is his favorite 'Til Tuesday album which convinced me that I really ought to go buy the new album. *Thank you*! It's superb! Aimee's got a much harder edge than she ever did with 'Til Tuesday, but it's only on some songs. Other times she's her same sweet pop-ish self. The album is just so totally _her_, while at the same time being a wonderful progression from her last (non-solo) release. If you're a 'Til Tuesday fan, go pick it up. If you're not, pick it up, but while you're at the record store, grab any 'Til Tuesday albums you can find (particularly _Welcome Home_ or _Everything's Different Now_). Trust me. ;-) Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "When I look in the mirror, I see a little clearer/ | |SAFH Lite [tm] | I am what I am and you are you too./ Do you like | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | what you see? Do you like yourself?" --N. Cherry | ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 15 May 93 11:37:47 est From: ajs@jloda.cci.com (Alan Sodoma) Subject: Gabriel in Roch. Peter Gabriel in Rochester has sold out. 8,500 tickets in 3 hours. I got mine! Usually, it's 9,500 for reserved seats. That must be a big stage! Al Sodoma ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 13 May 93 23:22 MET DST From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Subject: Re: F* dich selber... > Gosh, then it would have to be the cute and cuddly Terminator, wouldn't it? Yes, that's it. Now it seems to have been really too easy. > > So what do I win? Hmmm... what do you want? I suggest that you give us the next example of special vocabulary ;-) Bye, Uli ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. 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