Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #574 ecto, Number 574 Friday, 14 May 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: Pssst, gotch'r Happy news right here... Looking thru HR's eyes Happy's Eyes When the going gets tough, the tough go shopping Shawna Rhodes? gong/hammill/singles/apartheid/undergrads Woosh! CD single ... Re: ecto #573 ATTENTION ALL!!!!!!!! shawn (short) Of Sheelangigs and ectosynchronicity-like coincidences Parasites Re: Looking thru HR's eyes Looking through HR's eyes - a postscript ======================================================================== From: "Michael Blackmore" Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 16:17:24 EST Subject: Re: Pssst, gotch'r Happy news right here... Vickie sez: > THE GOOD NEWS: Kevin said that they would hold back a couple hundred > to be offered for sale **TO ECTOPHILES ONLY**. > > Isn't life wonderful? Oh my! How do we get them? Huh? How, pretty please with sugar on top! I'll wash Happy's car and do her dishes! (I won't do windows or mow the lawn! I may not have many standards, but the few I have I'm firm about!) ; - ) - Michael B. ======================================================================== From: mpower@jpmorgan.com Date: Thu, 13 May 93 17:25:03 EDT Subject: Looking thru HR's eyes Hiya Ectophiles, you mailbox-filling lot, you. A question....I was listening to the song on =poise where she is (presumably) describing herself... y'know...blonde hair...grey eyes...etc And my gaze happened upon Jessicas composite pic of Happy from the =poise cover (not difficult since it's my root window (background for the non-X-windows people out there). Good grief! ( I thought) they are green! Well I don't have my copy of =poise here (I'm at work) and I just have to know...are they really green (is my colormap screwed up? very possible) or, are they grey (she really ought to know), a third, exciting possibility just occured to me....since the cover only shows *one* eye (and jessicas pic is formed of the half-image reflected) perhaps one could be green and one grey....or *green contacts??* or ...artistic license with an airbrush? Inquiring minds want to know (actually, a very bored mind with obviously not enough work wants to know) Well, whatever color they are, looks pretty cute. Cheers! Marc Power (Who has been working on something for our Vickie for far too long. (well, er, actually not working on it)) ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 13 May 93 17:33:03 EDT From: jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu (jessica) Subject: Happy's Eyes Hmm, on my machine, the full-happy Equipoise picture eyes look pretty blue, with perhaps a tinge of green, or grey,but mostly blue. Her eyes in real life are in fact a slightly greyish blue. Perhaps in different lights they look fairly different, but when *i've* seen them, they've looked very blue. Her hair is not quite blonde, but a reddish blonde.. jessica ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 13 May 93 16:45:09 CDT From: "Suspended in MuckElwaine :-)" Subject: When the going gets tough, the tough go shopping Yesterday my Master Card bill arrived, and I was amazed to find much more available credit on it than I thought there was, despite my having purchased Aimee Mann's new CD that very afternoon, something I did principally because of the harmonic convergence of three factors: 1) Rose Records was across the street from the bus stop; 2) no bus was in immediate sight; and 3) it was on sale for $11.99. This morning, looking for a diversion from slogging through comp-academic-fredom-talk's ever-more-voluminous presentation of sidelights on the Robert McElwaine affair (q.v.), I stopped into Rock Records, just down Washington Street from Rose, to see if they had the elusive Joy of Cooking compilation. They did, and thanks to the coupon in the current issue of the _Illinois Entertainer_, I was able to score JoC, the new PJ Harvey CD, and the new one by Lava Hay for $10.99 each. Where does it say it can't be fun to economize? :-) WRT David Dixon's musings on the prospects for happyvangelizing to KALX, the UC-Berkeley station: Oh, for the days when they carried the Oakland A's, because no other station in the area wanted to do business with Charlie Finley. It would have been an inherent attractor of listeners--maybe even to something besides baseball. Maybe they could have made a regular practice of playing "Rainkeeper" and "When The Rain Came Down" during precipitation delays. Mean- while, back in the real world, David should perhaps give some thought to KPFA, whatever music content there is to KQED and the other public stations, and I can't believe there aren't commercial alternative stations in the bay area worth checking out for the purpose at hand. It sounds like a terribly simplistic idea, but: perhaps Susanne should include _Entertainment Tonight_ on the master list of entities to mailbomb with Happy- vangelist dogma. Now if only its Chicago outlet didn't schedule it opposite _Star Trek: TNG_ :-). WRT Kevin's all-time musical hero, Peter Hammill: While one has nothing to do with the other, this did remind me of the articles in the current issues of both the _Columbia Journalism Review_ and the _American Journalism Review_, on the palace revolution at the _New York Post_ under the editorship of Pete Hamill. It's interesting reading in its own right, even if you don't believe everything you read in tabloids :-). >THE GOOD NEWS: Kevin said that they would hold back a couple hundred >to be offered for sale **TO ECTOPHILES ONLY**. "Sale" implies we'll need to send in a specific dollar amount to Bearsville. Anyone have a notion of what it will be? Used record stores apparently are funny critters. Dr. Wax in Hyde Park used to be across the street from Second Hand Tunes, then moved to a mall several blocks east, and both are still going strong. The L tracks would presumably have made SHT less visible from Record Exchange's side of Dempster, but guess who won the trade war? Ironically, there apparently is some kind of affiliatio n or other symbiosis between RX and Dr. Wax, as evidenced by the fact that the stores of both chains are listed on their bags. Hopefully, RX on Morse--a stone's throw from Gaffa Central--was the one to inherit the shuttered store's Happy stock; I always thought it ironic that their one branch to carry the stuff was not the one in the cradle of Happyvangelism. I've already written to Bob, suggesting that she pass on to Susanne the notion of going to work on Platypus Books, directly across from the former RX and which stocks a lot of music by women, to carry on the tradition on that block, as it were. Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 13 May 93 19:22 EDT From: robert@deepspace.nj00802.sai.com (Robert Lovejoy) Subject: Shawna Rhodes? Hello Jim! It would indeed seem that the Happy Shawna of whom you write is the very same Happy we all adore here on Ecto! I took the liberty of passing your message on to Happy's manager, and she suggested that you write to Happy at her record company. The address is: Aural Gratification P.O. Box 380 Bearsville, NY 12409-0380 I passed on your phone numbers as well, so hopefully she'll get them soon. I had the great fortune to meet Happy's mother at a concert Happy gave in Philadelphia. Inadvertently sat right down next to her! Before long, we were talking up a storm, marvelling at the sold-out eclectic turnout, and learning how calmly Happy was facing this concert. "She's one cool customer!" was how she phrased it. The concert was simply the very best I've ever attended. Your friend has six albums out and is in my humble opinion, the very best there is! Hope you two connect OK; please tell her I said hello! Bob Lovejoy ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 13 May 93 19:38:48 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) Subject: gong/hammill/singles/apartheid/undergrads hi all, vickie says: > >There will be 1000 of these printed up, and when they're gone, that's >it, no more, they're Goldmine material. > >THE GOOD NEWS: Kevin said that they would hold back a couple hundred >to be offered for sale **TO ECTOPHILES ONLY**. > i must have them ALL!!!!! >Warpaint will very shortly be released in South Africa on the REA label, >distributed by EMI. > aren't people supposed to be boycotting SA? >Kevin's all-time favorite musical hero is Peter Hamill! (I didn't know >that until tonight.) brni, Kevin's also a huge Gong fan. > HA! its about time someone admitted to it. btw, i strongly recommend van der graaf generator (peter hammill's old band) to anyone that likes old genesis ("old" meaning "while gabriel was in the band", not "before that mama song came out", as some of the undergrads at villanova seem to think--"yeah, i have some of their real early stuff, like _duke_." brni rolls his eyes...). >*HUGs'zall* > >Vickie > well, *HUGS* back atcha brni ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 13 May 93 22:40 EDT From: robert@deepspace.nj00802.sai.com (Robert Lovejoy) Subject: Woosh! Hi Ecto! Maybe it's time to switch from the digest to bounce mail. I sent a note to Jim C., cc to ecto, about how to contact Shawna (!) and the service sends it off, then pulls in a digest with another note that someone gave him her personal phone number! It's all too fast! But then again, as brni noted, if you get bounce mail most of it is headers! Oh well. Vickie, thanks for the info on the upcoming release! Wow, this is the place for news and information - and that's what I just posted over on Genie. I told them to stop wondering which was the best gateway to the Internet and just do it! They should be here any minute now... I watched the season finale of The Simpsons tonight. There are some truly amazing, jaw dropping things going on in that show. Seems Itchy and Scratchy moved to another show, leaving Krusty with an Eastern European cartoon that was... well, you had to see it! Humor is alive in a few spots of teevee, thank goodness! I hope those of you expecting packages from me get them quickly! Chris, your PG tape finally went out yesterday! So they're all out; my next project is to make a master tape of Happy's music from her radio tours, excising those inane interviews. Especially that first caller on the WYSP interview! What a geek! (blush)... actually, it was probably a better question than any Ed Sciaci asked... Well, take care everyone! Birthday greetings, wedding announcement, Texas Radio and The Big Beat, music quizzes, long lost friends, the International Date Line, medication, new people, established people, philosophic discussions, personal preferences, motion pictures, gender alignment, unix, jolly hockeysticks, footahs, mitching, and above all- the music of Happy Rhodes. Fuzzy blue ecto. foop. ======================================================================== From: boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Christopher Boek) Subject: Date: Fri, 14 May 1993 13:31:35 +1000 (EST) Hi all, I'm a bit ill lately, but I always have time to listen in here ... I just heard on the telly yesterday that Suzanne Vega will be playing Melbourne on July 5 !!!! Yay. Tickets go on sale Monday, so I can hopefully get myself some good seats ... This is a real big _YAY_, I can tell you, especially since I'm probably not going to get to see the big PG show :(. Secondly, I'm glad to hear the Meredith interview finally made it to air, I can't wait to find out the contents ... :) Thirdly, Hi Andrea. I can't remember if I've said that before, but it's great to see you here, and great to hear that your choir is becoming a mass of Happy fandom. Maybe you will start singing Happy, and you can make a tape of it, and get it in the tape project :) :). I for one would love to hear it !! Fourthly, Happy Birthday to all those guys who had birthdays in the last week or so, Steve, Jarle, and all other Taureans in this world :). Fifthly, all my hopes were dashed when I realised the LA PG show was on _July_ 22, not August 22 which is what I thought for some reason. Oh well, maybe he'll do a return leg in the UK. We can but hope .... It was really sad to hear about your uncle, brni. Hopefully things will improve. I don't really know what constitutes an improvement, but if people stop dying, that's certainly top of the list. That's all I can think of for now, except to say Hi! to everybody, and go back into my hole for a little while, while I try and do some work :} Byee all Chris. -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||Christopher Boek - boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | || Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | / "Anybody remotely interesting is mad in |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| \_/\_/\_/\_/\__/(:*- some way or another" ======================================================================== From: boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Christopher Boek) Subject: CD single ... Date: Fri, 14 May 1993 13:49:55 +1000 (EST) Vickie, the fountain of _all_ world knowledge writes ... > > H&K are working on the previously mentioned CD single, which will > be a promotion-only release, going out to radio stations everywhere. > It will have: > > Feed the Fire (album version) > Feed the Fire (acoustic version) > I Say (album version) > Ashes to Ashes (acoustic) > Save Our Souls (acoustic) > > There will be 1000 of these printed up, and when they're gone, that's > it, no more, they're Goldmine material. > > THE GOOD NEWS: Kevin said that they would hold back a couple hundred > to be offered for sale **TO ECTOPHILES ONLY**. > Wow!!!!!!! All I can say is .... **WOW** :) :) :) :) Howdoigetone,howdoigetone,howdoigetone?????? Chris. -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||Christopher Boek - boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | || Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | / "Anybody remotely interesting is mad in |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| \_/\_/\_/\_/\__/(:*- some way or another" ======================================================================== Subject: Re: ecto #573 From: metatron!joe@dogface.austin.tx.us (Joe Zitt) Date: Fri, 14 May 93 00:44:28 CDT WretchAwry writes: > Feed the Fire (album version) > Feed the Fire (acoustic version) > I Say (album version) > Ashes to Ashes (acoustic) > Save Our Souls (acoustic) YAY! But I'm surprised at the selection of "I Say"--I would have picked perhaps "Runners" or "The Flight" or "Mother Sea" (my current fave, with a near perfect melody). BTW, It finally struck me who "Mother Sea" reminds me of: Renaissance. It might make a cool segue with "Share Your Love". > Kevin's all-time favorite musical hero is Peter Hamill! (I didn't know > that until tonight.) brni, Kevin's also a huge Gong fan. Yeah! I was the lone Peter Hammill fan in college. My favorite stuff of his, unfortunately, is hard to find (well, most of his stuff is...): he did some tremendous vocals from Robert Fripp's album "Exposure". However, make sure that you find the *original* vinyl version--when Fripp remixed it and rereleased it some years later, he consistently replaced them (and other stuff) with lesser, unsubtle versions. (Dunno what it is about Fripp--I love his stuff, but he's his own worst revisionist.) I keep planning to get Hammill's "Fall of the House of Usher", but it's *expensive*... though I did spend the same amount on a whim last night getting John Zorn's "Kristallnacht". Uhh... someone else whose name I just deleted wrote: > I never bought the second Meatloaf album (Though I *did* like the monologue > from the _Life and Death of an American Guitar_ (Or words to that effect). > I'll rummage through the old LPs tonight and see what other skeletons are > hiding there. There's some good stuff there, though the real followup became Jim Steinman's "Bad for Good" when Meatloaf lost his voice. I have a killer tape (though on shoody cassettes--I didn't know any better then) of a concert on the Bat out of Hell tour. Incredible! Steinman went on to write a lot of my favorite songs, though, in a sense, he only keeps writing the same song over and over. At one point, he had three songs in the top Forty at one. (Trivia: can anyone name them?) "You could be an ocarina salesman going | Metatron Press | Austin, Texas! from door to door..." -- Laurie Anderson | Human Systems Performance Group ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 May 93 13:52:21 +0200 From: yngveh@stud.cs.uit.no (Yngve Hauge) Subject: ATTENTION ALL!!!!!!!! I went to the local record-store first of all to tell them about Happy Ok, I stood around there for a moment just to wait for one of them working there to get a little less busy. Then I asked him if he had heard of happy and he said the name sounded familiar....I guess someone must have asked about Happy there (He looked her up and found _Warpaint_ as I thought) But then he asked if I got some spare copies of some of her stuff and I gave him _Equipoise_ and _Warpaint_ . And what nearly made me faint is ------> HAPPY IS GETTING AIRPLAY HERE IN TROMSOE TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just had to tell you all............... Take care, -- T ---- Only In Your Eyes Lies Your Soul.............. H | --- ----- ---- --- - -- - - - - - --- E |-- | | | | | | |__| | | |_ | | | | | |--- | | | | | --- --- - - ---- - - - -- - - - --- --- Yngve Hauge (yngveh@stud.cs.uit.no).....University of Tromsoe...Norway ======================================================================== Date: 14 May 93 10:04:12 EDT From: Mike Mendelson Subject: shawn (short) Well, for those who missed my last glowing review of Shawn Colvin solo, go look it up in the archives. I am pleased to say it still applies, even with her band. I saw Shawn Colvin last night at Northwestern at a free show. Dardin Smith (sp?) opened and was ok. Shawn had a bass/acordian/mandolin player, drummer, keyboardist, and lead guitarist. All the musicians were technically excellent and provided nice BVs. She played for a good two hours. The band was tight and energetic; and she was in a great mood, telling lots of jokes and making fun of Jody Foster. Again, I have extolled Colvin's virtues in this space ad nauseum and will refrain from further verbal assault save to say, should you get the chance, definitely see her live. -sheelanagig ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 May 1993 07:58:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Neile Graham Subject: Of Sheelangigs and ectosynchronicity-like coincidences Mike Mendelson reviews Shawn Colvin (Hi, Mike!) then signs off "-sheelanagig" An ectophile doing female impersonations? What next?? What further bowels of degradation shall we plumb??? In Wales last summer, round about the time my SO Jim AKA jmg@rocket.com, quiet but present among these postings, caught PJ Harvey's video of Sheelanagig on 120 minutes I was galumphing through the Wye Valley in eastern Wales/western England and stopped at a place called Kilpeck. I like to think that just as I viewed the sheelanagig carved below the roof of the Norman Kilpeck Church, Jim was watching the video and spied the shot of that very same Sheelanagig on the video (which is really only to be seen with stop action, but anyway I don't want to ruin a good story). I like to think this because it's true that the year before in Scotland on the very day a friend of mine got back in contact with a highschool boyfriend who she later married I bought a print for her of a woman in a white dress which I didn't give to her until Christmas by which time she had purchased a wedding dress exactly like the dress depicted in the print. Anyway, sheelanagigs are wonderful. I can't believe they survived the Victorian era but a few did. For those who dnot in the know about such things (I didn't know unitl my trip to Wales) a sheelanagig is a protrayal of a woman holding her genetalia wide open and laughing. Scholars assume that they are remnants of woman-centred prehistoric religions. There is something wonderfully, indefinably wry and blatant and sly and powerful about them, yes indeed. --Neile, whose wild mother's name is Shelagh and thus can claim the sheelanagig by bloodright ;) neile@u.washington.edu ======================================================================== Subject: Parasites Date: Fri, 14 May 93 11:17:49 EDT From: sidilryK solegnA Funny what things can happen to you in the morning. After listening to the Helen Leicht interview side of the Radio Tour tape twice, (anybody notice how she pronounces Equipoise? -ekwipoy :-)), and focusing on Feed the fire (still shaking from the 'There's a Starman waiting in the sky' line) I started to get ready for the office to put the final touches on Chapter 4 of my thesis (I am counting backwards :-) ) and all the time I kept hearing a drum beat and my PoJo Rap playing in my head, only this time after a while I heard 'Possessed by grunge' for the first time with the distortion and feedback lingering on after the final 'hey hey hey hey' leaving a quite distinct ringing in my ears. I hate to repeat myself, but it's funny what things can happen to you in the morning. I guess I need to change keyboards :-) Angelos 'if i sound bitter, it's because i'm alone under alien colors in an alien zone and though i know the language, it isnt' my own, i really don't belong here' -TR (The wedding) ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 May 93 12:28:08 EDT From: Laura Frank Clifford Subject: Re: Looking thru HR's eyes Gray eyes tend to pick up reflections from makeup/clothing - my eyes are gray but can appear several different shades of green or blue depending on what I'm wearing. So WHEN can we order these promo CDs - looks like this'll be the prompt I need to finally retire the 1st 4 cassettes (which I don't play too often BECAUSE they're tape) with the CDs..... Laura ======================================================================== From: mpower@jpmorgan.com Date: Fri, 14 May 93 13:07:48 EDT Subject: Looking through HR's eyes - a postscript The final piece of this puzzle came to me as I got the taxi home last night....mentally chanting the mantra are they grey? are they green? over and over. no sooner had I got in the cab than....over the airwaves and thru the radio came: (no...not a HR song) Behind blue eyes by The Who! What does it all mean?!?!? (probably that I need a day off!) cheers! Marc Power mpower@jpmorgan ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)