Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #245 ecto, Number 245 Saturday, 23 May 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Happy Birthday !!! Tori Amos Mailing List thank you Party Alert 2 Nicky Holland? Petals (poem) We, The Blossoms (poem) The Way She moves The Way She Moves (cont) Info For You!!! status of HBP selections ecto-archeology #1 ======================================================================== Subject: Happy Birthday !!! From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Fri, 15 May 92 18:31:21 GMT i*i*i*i*i*i *************** ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ****** Steve Fagg ***** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ======================================================================== Subject: Tori Amos Mailing List From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Fri, 15 May 92 18:58:09 GMT Here is something which has been posted to Gaffa, but as some of you aren't reading it, you might be interested to know about it: > From: kosky@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Anthony Kosky) > Subject: Tori Amos mailing list - digest version > Date: Tue, 12 May 1992 12:05:00 -0700 > > The Tori Amos mailing list, Really-Deep-Thoughts, is now available > in digest format. This means that a concatenation of all the days > messages (minus some extraneous header information) is sent out > every 24 hours. > > If you're interested in joining the list but don't want your mail > box cluttered with lots of little messages during the day, then > this may be a good option. > > If you would like to subscribe to either the regular list or the > digest version please send mail to > > really-deep-thoughts-request@gradient.cis.upenn.edu > > or, for the terminally lazy, > > rdt-request@gradient.cis.upenn.edu > > Be sure to specify if you want to be added to the digest version. > > -Anthony (owner and of the Tori Amos mailing list) The list itself (as some of you already know :) is: really-deep-thoughts@gradient.cis.upenn.edu or rdt@gradient.cis.upenn.edu _____ Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge take a trip on a rocket ship, baby klaus@inphobos.w.open.de the sea is the sky ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 22 May 1992 10:44:29 EDT From: eperry@kean.ucs.mun.ca Subject: thank you Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! To my sheer embarrassment and complete delight I found all of the wonderful bday wishes in the last couple of digests and lying loosely in my mail. I have always loved birthdays and yesterday's was a topper for me! I had a *great* day and was spoiled rotten by some wonderful new music, new books, good (and fattening) food and phone calls. I did have several wild and wonderful versions of happy birthday sung to me (one in a restaurant while I was brought a *huge* piece of raspberry cheesecake!) but none quite equalled the "Happy Birthday Beth" song from Mitch! I'm still laughing over that. :) You guys are wonderful! Thanks for making a great day even better! :) :) Beth ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 22 May 92 10:22:34 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: Re: Happy Birthday !!! Happy Happy's and a fountain of footahs to Steve Fagg!! and hopes that you'll be here and be ecto for years to come! footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "if love is a game, i win" -- HR ======================================================================== Date: 22-MAY-1992 13:05:45.82 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Party Alert 2 Hi! This is another notification of a soiree for people of discriminating and awesome musical taste, occurring on Sunday, May 24, 1992 at 3PM at Valerie Nozick's place in Middletown, Connecticut. That's THIS SUNDAY, so make your plans now! We're planning on a bit of barbecue, a bit of drink, many munchies, and Much Music and Video Entertainment (please bring what you can to augment this part of the festivities). Call it an Un-KaTemas, if you will, or even if you won't. ;) E-mail me or Valerie to RSVP and to get directions: mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu vnozick@eagle.wesleyan.edu Or phone: (203) 638-0881 (Meredith) (203) 638-4746 (Valerie) Hope to see all you thundering hordes there! ====================================================================== |Meredith Tarr "Get to the point you sappy wimps| |Wesleyan University I haven't got a lifetime | |Middletown, CT Simplicity is beauty | |USA, Earth Are there poets less sublime?" | |mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu -Happy Rhodes | ====================================================================== ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 22 May 92 14:20:54 EDT From: jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu Subject: Nicky Holland? In the record store the other day, I heard a cover of the dead's Box of Rain (one of my favorites ever), and it was really quite nice. I have the "deadicated" album, but i was pretty certain i hadn't heard *this* song before, 'cause i'd remember that :) Sure enough it wasn't on "deadicated".. So i asked a friend who's a big dead fan, and he found out for me that it's Nicky Holland. Does anyone know anything about her, and if anything else she's done would be of interest? Thanks, jessica ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Happy Birthday !!! Date: Fri, 22 May 92 17:09:47 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu >Happy Happy's and a fountain of footahs to Steve Fagg!! >and hopes that you'll be here and be ecto for years to come! ^^^^^^^ Um, does this mean that today is actually the anniversary of Steve's death? ;-) Happy birthday to the resident duffer... Jeff ======================================================================== From: shark@cs.ucla.edu (Jeanne B. Schreiter) Subject: Poem Date: Fri, 22 May 92 16:00:15 PDT Sorr, no actual poems listing for this message, perhaps the next. In the last ecto digest, I believe Tracy Barber asked me a question (or asked everyone else) if they've published any poems... My answer has a story. When I was..oh nevermind..years old, a prof asked us in one of our writing classes to submit poetry to whatever small mag/newspaper etc, for a grade..or to see if we could get anyone to publish our poetry. I did so, and was published..and since that time, my poetry has evolved from the "ode to dead cats"..or so I feel..and the challenge left. Frankly, I wouldn't know who would want to read it...except that none of you complain when I write, so I seem to berage ecto and another mailing list with my poetry. I guess I'm just waiting for a new challenge. I've been putting all my poems and stories in a book/portfolio..so when I die.. well I'm giving it away. At the end of a lifetime, I'm kind of hoping it ends up somewhere. Jeanne ======================================================================== From: shark@cs.ucla.edu (Jeanne B. Schreiter) Subject: Petals (poem) Date: Fri, 22 May 92 16:12:22 PDT Petals written 5/15/92 rewritten 5/22/1992 Our stems collide in the water of this vase clear is the glass of our new birth Separated once, we rejoin with new faces at our sides. Our petals flutter out, our leaves, green, curl and crinkle with each passing day. When I see the darkness cloudy is the clarity we sit in silence waiting for one another to make a move or two Here in this bunch of daisies retaining our poise we speak in colours some are different but we realize that -JB Schreiter ======================================================================== From: shark@cs.ucla.edu (Jeanne B. Schreiter) Subject: We, The Blossoms (poem) Date: Fri, 22 May 92 16:19:52 PDT We, the Blossoms written 5/16/1992 We start out purely white laced around the tree halfway between our world seas of blossoms Soon the world begins to take shape a smooth cylinder form firm as flesh molding taking our skins and our seeds and sealing them in. As the seasons change we listen to the rustling of leaves We'll go farther than this tree you say I remember being plucked I look up but not back Too tart, but not too sweet, my skin breaks and I fall again the wounds of my skin pale to the core Sadly, I sow bruises You follow me slower than the rest you're among the last to leave But the sun is shining overhead and you fall close to me We sit and talk awhile resting the wounds that are painful and the silence that surrounds us now bearing in upon new seeds. -JB Schreiter ======================================================================== From: shark@cs.ucla.edu (Jeanne B. Schreiter) Subject: The Way She moves Date: Fri, 22 May 92 16:23:02 PDT 5/16/1992 The Way She Moves... is like a black sleek shadow piercing the darkness slowly across my aunt's afgan, gently kneading her claws into my back, pawing for the want of mothering heat. ======================================================================== From: shark@cs.ucla.edu (Jeanne B. Schreiter) Subject: The Way She Moves (cont) Date: Fri, 22 May 92 16:26:15 PDT The Way She Moves (cont) Generally she nestles close, wanting me to pet her glossiness Her pink tongue darts out to chafe my hand, I move and she licks the air, drawing in the sun and sky Just the cat, Bonkers and I... -JB Schreiter ======================================================================== Date: 23-MAY-1992 01:11:58.13 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Info For You!!! Hi! Called Albany last night, to invite Happy and Kevin to our little party this weekend. Kevin said they would like to come but can't- he's producing another band and Happy's in the middle of pre-production for the new album, so he's been leaving her alone as much as possible. :) Good enough reason, I can accept that... The major news is, the 1st4 are being shipped out NOW, meaning "Friday and/or Tuesday". So check the mails at the end of the week! There are 1000 of each one (Kevin tried to tell me there were one of each :P). H&K are going to Philly the weekend of June 12-14 to do a signing in Bryn Mawr and an interview on WXPN, which I think was posted here before. Other news: the only possibility of another show is the one in New Jersey in July, but that's only a possibility. Kevin said they're rusty, and would rather not interrupt recording to play, but they will if they can. Also, he said that the new album will be backed with a tour and videos, and they're going to start rehearsing for the tour in the fall. He said they're "going to do it right this time", he seemed to think the last shows were thrown together. Maybe so, but they were still amazing. They send their regards, and Kevin said it was great meeting those of us he did. Hopefully we'll get to do it again soon! One more interesting thing he said was that Ray had been calling asking if the show in Connecticut was happening. I told Kevin to tell him we still love him. :) :) :) ====================================================================== |Meredith Tarr "Get to the point you sappy wimps| |Wesleyan University I haven't got a lifetime | |Middletown, CT Simplicity is beauty | |USA, Earth Are there poets less sublime?" | |mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu -Happy Rhodes | ====================================================================== ======================================================================== Subject: status of HBP selections From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Sat, 23 May 92 08:54:42 GMT Well, the HBP'92 (Happy Birthday Project) hasn't officially been announced yet, and details on how it will be handled are still a bit unclear, but I've already started the list of participants and their selections. You can already let me know what you like to include, so that I can add you to the list and reserve a song for you. It won't be a final decision; you can always change your mind later. The current status is: 7 songs, 5 messages, approximated time: 34 min. Albert Philipsen message Loreena McKennitt, "Lullaby" Claudia Spix message Mari Boine Persen, "It Sat Duolmma Mu" (3:48) Courtney Dallas Tori Amos, "Happy Phantom" (3:14) kIrI Hargie Woman Talk, "Get Back" Klaus Kluge message Bel Canto, "die geschichte einer mutter" (6:54) Meredith Tarr Rainbirds, "Blueprint" (5:31) Mitch Pravatiner message John Hartford, "I'm Still Here" ___________________________________________________________ ( "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. ) ) Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." ( / --- Happy Rhodes --- \ / Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge klaus@inphobos.w.open.de \ (reggae, reggae) before that happens again. But I found the time to do some reading. I've actually finished a book and started a new one. :) OK, OK, it only ran smoothly for one day. We have new symptoms now (the other modem answers, but the system doesn't respond), but the effect stays the same. I wonder when I'll be able to send this message. :( Martin wonders: > P.S. Klaus, why is it you're the only blurry person in both shots? After triggering the camera I dived into the picture; only managing to be in sight, but not in focus. Although your theory about the fuzzy blue cocktails sounds probable. Cheers, Klaus. (who is just trying his new bermudas :) ___________________________________________________________ . * | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | _ . * .* . | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | (_) . | --- Happy Rhodes --- | . . o | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge klaus@inphobos.w.open.de | <== ======================================================================== Subject: ecto-archeology #1 From: claudia@inphobos.w.open.de (Claudia Spix) Date: Sat, 23 May 92 08:52:10 GMT Hi fuzzy-blue friends! I finally found the time to sit down and dig my way through several gigabytes of digests, some way old ... I'll try to structure my comments but they may still seem kind of patchy. But knowing you I've good faith you'll put up with it :-)! I may also split this up between several posts, or this becomes a VickieEMitch (note the scientific notation ;). (hah! this may never get posted! You people seem to write faster than I can read! ) Hah again! I did it! I really did it! I caught up with the digests, I mean as far as we've got them (#242), our connection has been down for a few days **again**. Perhaps my only chance ever to catch up. Plus a few of you signing off (sniff :() for the summer. BTW, how much of a holiday DO you have? Our summer term has barely started, I'll be stuck in the lecture treadmill 'til mid of July! (As you may have guessed, those last paragraphs have *weeks* in between) Ok, some remarks with a little more content. On the concerts: Greg on Albany in March: >* Happy dancing like a bat (!!) and Kiri shortly afterwards: >WoW! I got a couple brilliant photos of Happy doing various things.. >including the bat dance - i think! Did I miss it or did nobody actually say WHICH song she danced like a bat to? I'd love to know! Kiri, Bob and others mentioned photos on top of those Greg wonderfully sent to us. BTW, we started our own Ecto related photo album, anyone want to come see it (and us!) is welcome. ...Alan? In a recent post Jessica said sth like scan scan scan scan scan . Does that mean there will soon be some of the other nice ones available? Doug, you mentioned in store appearances, as this seems to be fairly uncommon in Germany I don't quite know how to imagine those. Does the artist perform? Or do they just play his/her stuff while he/she talks to people, signs records, answers questions etc? On a different note, Meredith on what she likes most about Happy, on Jan 31st: >The thing that gets me with Happy's music, I've finally concluded, is not >the music, or even the lyrics (you can shoot me later :), but her voice, >plain and simple. The duets she sings with herself just blow me away- >that she can sound one moment EXACTLY like Kate, then a measure later >sound EXACTLY like Annie Lennox, then sound like the two of them singing >a duet, then sound like no one else on this planet but Happy Rhodes thats what we love most, isn't it ;-)?! >... >Sometimes, though, the musical arrangements are pretty damn cool, too. >...>But still, I must be honest and say that if Happy didn't do >the vocal acrobatics she does, I wouldn't be impressed with her stuff >much at all. Well I don't know. Up to lately I more or less thought the same way. I liked the arrangements, but Happy's voice was the greatest attraction. BUT, some recent experiences gave me second thoughts. There's DIVA, Annie Lennox' solo album, there's that new song by Maggie Reilly, and lately Absolutely Live on Super showed Judie Tzuke (hope I got the spelling right), a singer I hadn't heard of before. She has a real nice voice (not even close to Happy's calibre, but nice) and writes her songs -melodies and lyrics that is- herself. Obviously and according to the interview they aired between the songs, she then leaves all the arranging, producing etc. to her band. Good solid craftmanship, perfect background for her singing, but nothing creative or original. Doesn't add a thing to the songs, just kind of "frames" them. About the same is true for DIVA (more on that later), plus in my view the songs (well, most of them) themselves are sooo conventional, so "must have heard something like it before, but it didn't stick", if you know what I mean. This definitely makes the music A LOT less interesting to me, devaluates the singer, maybe even a bit "wastes" her voice. Or to put it the other way round, those songs and/or singers aren't all they could be. Hmphh, I just reread the previous paragraph and find I'm not making myself perfectly clear. I'm trying to explain/reason about something, which is mostly something I FEEL. The above stuff is an attempt to analyse/ verbalise my feelings. Always difficult. To sum up, I think (feel?) the arrangements of Happy's music are just/nearly as important for our perception of her music as her voice, although it stands out so much. BTW, though the arrangements on the 1st4 are necessarily simple, sometimes actually sparse, IMHO they already show a lot of the qualities she used fully on Warpaint. Ok, that's it for today, my word processor just told me I have gathered another 9 pages of notes for Ecto on top of this , so I'll leave some for later. Don't worry, not all of it will get sent, I edit myself rather critically... well sometimes. The weather here is ultranice, from one day to the next last week our much-too-cold-spring turned into searing summer weather, hardly anybody wears more than shorts or short skirts and a top, I love it! From Meredith's concert report I gather you're enjoying a similar hot spell. Court, I wonder, is this any good for your poor glands? Claudia (claudia@inphobos.w.open.de) (still looking for a really good signature) "The point is that cats are different from dogs." Terry Pratchett ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is a README file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me (or leave in the incoming directory, just let me know) things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)