Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #238 ecto, Number 238 Wednesday, 13 May 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* this 'n' that RE: ecto #236 Happy Birthday Bye! Fluff (tm) Just remembered what I just forgot... Dies y Das Enya and Sarah..let's try this again Now I remember what else I forgot... my Nth skinback (not quite 19th nervous breakdown :-) ) for today Tori Amos and green onions Gemischtes (not only ice cream :) ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 11 May 92 12:25:08 EDT From: Chris Sampson Subject: this 'n' that Hi, again, Just a few odd bits o' business tossed out for those with varied interests: Anyone know what SF writer Harlan Ellison is up to these days? Last book I've seen (and bought) by him is _Angry Candy_. Any Dylan fans out there? If so, who plays violin on _Desire_? Also: apologies to those who've asked me questions and not received answers (like where I'm from and all that). It's been rude of me, but I've not grown accustomed to the give and take tempo of a BBS (this is my first :) ) As I re-read old digests I'll get back to those who've addressed me directly. So long for now. Chris Sampson ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 11 May 92 09:21:51 EDT From: Chris Sampson Subject: RE: ecto #236 Hi all, Albert writes (words to the effect of) To all Poetic Justice Fans (includes me...) Opening line is "Get out of my world of words" (as opposed to "world of worlds"). I agree. Anyone still care to try and decipher the meaning of the song as a whole with/for me?? :) The "sappy wimps" reference is easy enough. Obviously (IMHO) the song is a general chastisement (word?) of bad poets (A nobel pursuit). But I STILL (a little dense, I'm afraid) have problems reconciling the tone to her EARS having parasites. :):):) Unless.... Are we 100% sure of the words? :):):) Any help for an obsessive personality would be appreciated :) Chris Sampson ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 12 May 92 08:07:57 +0100 From: Terry Partis Subject: Happy Birthday Hi Steve, Wishing a very happy,Fuzzy Blue birthday to Steve Fagg for tomorrow, the 13th. May. Long and Happy Listening. Terry ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 12 May 92 8:41:32 MET DST From: Albert Philipsen Subject: Re: ecto #236 hi! Perhaps it's YEARS??? Albert - I want to be a UNIX process :-) :-) :-) :) :) :) ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 12 May 92 12:19:31 MET DST From: Albert Philipsen Subject: Bye! hi! Thanks for all the help you have given me. It's time to enter the real world!! I hope to meet some of you in person sometime, perhaps! Albert :-) ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 12 May 92 07:40:30 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Fluff (tm) Greetings, It's a sad time of year, as we are apparently losing more Ectophiles through the loss of their student accounts than gaining new Ectophiles. :( I hope all of you being forced to depart can return someday. In the meanwhile, have a great summer! I haven't seen any newbies posting recently, but just in case some are lurking, a warm fuzzy blue WELCOME to you all. Feel free to post, if just to say "hi!" and give us your birthday and shoe size (It's a long story. :) ) If you would like a copy of the freshly minted, newly revised, and sparkling FAQ [By the way, I've been discussing with someone the pronunciation of FAQ. Do you pronounce it like F-A-Q or like "fack" or other? I've always spelled it out.], feel free to e-mail me to ask for a copy! Having lived here for almost four years now, I know it's rare for an Ecto type artist to go through Denver. So when I found out that Tori Amos was playing in Denver last Friday evening, I disregarded the 1-1/2hr (one way) drive to head down to the Garage. Unfortunately, Tori will not want to remember this show, and none of it was her fault. The Garage is a good-sized open space, which seats zero and stands as many people as management wants to jam in. On a warm Friday evening, about 500 people stood, waiting for Tori. However, the number of people, smokers, the warm weather took much of the air out of the place. Some people felt faint and had to leave the room, and at least one person collapsed and had to be carried out unconscious. I myself coughed out that bad air well into the next day. By the time Tori arrived, about 400 people survived, and only about 250 stuck it out to the end of her show. Unfortunately, the people who left didn't include a large drunken group in the back, who talked and occasionally bellowed completely unaware of the concert and the efforts of people to get them to shut up or go away. Someone must have tipped Tori off about the conditions, because she wore a one piece swimsuit and jeans for the concert, prepared for the overwarm room. About a minute into the opening "Little Earthquakes", she told the assholes in the back to shut up. They didn't, but she didn't challenge them again. Unfortunately, their talking was audible throughout the room and ruined the atmosphere that Tori tried to establish. I'm sure the hot smoky air must have bothered her, but her excellent performance showed no ill effect. However, during "Happy Phantom", a piece of her unruly bright orange hair stuck in her mouth, and she smoothly changed one line to sing "... and I've got a hair in my mouth", before stopping to fish it out. This woman is a trooper! The set list of the concert was the same as I've seen posted here and in Gaffa, though apparently due to the conditions, she only did one two-song encore. That meant that I missed my favorite song from the album, "China". :( I guess I now know why similar artists rarely come through here. :( Well, here is another tape dubbing status reports. I am currently in the midst of clearing out the Albany live show requests I inherited from woj. I expect that all those should be in the mail by this weekend. First, I have some personal notes: Tracy Barber, Mike Mendelson, and John Relph: How much cash did you send to woj? woj sent me the money but not who gave how much. E-mail me the amount so that I can credit it to your tape account. Steve Fagg: Attempt number two arrived on Tuesday, but I've seen no sign of attempt number one. Martin Dougiamas: Australia has a different definition of a "small package" than the rest of the world, so your postage for nine tapes was $16.70, about twice as much as other overseas postage. :( There is no hurry in making up the deficit. You can wait until you order another set of tapes. I've developed a little table to give everyone the status of their accounts. The first column holds everyone's names in alphabetic order. The second column holds the available tapes and status for each person. (The key to the symbols follows the table). The last column holds your current tape account balance. This is current as of Monday night. 123456789ABC alaska.bitnet MMMMMMM TT $ 12.89 Tracy Barber TT ?? Bob Brown MMMMMMM MM 23.84 Jessica Dembski MMMMMMM .00 Ken Descoteaux MM .00 Martin Dougiamas MMMMMMM MM -7.89 Steve Fagg MMMMMMM MM 39.86 Neile Graham MMMMMMM QQ 14.89 Klaus Kluge MMMMMM 15.57 Vickie Mapes MM .00 Mike Mendelson MMMMMMM RT >19.89 ? Beth Perry MMMMMMM 7.65 Michael Peskura MMMMMMM 9.89 Albert Philipsen MMMMMMM 14.45 John Relph RR ?? Mark Semich MMMMMM 11.49 Al Sodoma RR 7.00 Rob Woiccak MMMMMMM MM 4.15 Barry Wong MMMMMMM TT 2.16 The heading for the second column gives the available tapes, which currently are: 1 World Cafe interview and miscellaneous Happy 2 Femme Music Collection I: Lushy pop 3 Femme Music Collection II: Mish Smash 4 Femme Music Collection III: Voices 5 Femme Music Collection IV: International Sampler 6 Femme Music Collection V: Easy, does it? 7 Femme Music Collection VI 8 1991 Happy Gift Project I 9 1991 Happy Gift Project II A Ecto Suspended in Gaffa B Happy Rhodes Live! Albany NY 18 Mar 1992 I C Happy Rhodes Live! Albany NY 18 Mar 1992 II The letters across from the names and under the letters give the status of that tape for each person: Q dubbing of tape requested T actual tape for copying received R tape has been recorded M tape has been mailed By the way, if I count right, four more tapes will soon be added to this list. Stay tuned for details! Even for the existing tapes, it's a great time to get your orders in! Turnaround should be fast! As usual, if you have any questions or problems or want more information, feel free to e-mail me. Any mistakes I make I will fix for free! Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== Date: 12 May 1992 11:47:43 CDT From: Subject: Just remembered what I just forgot... I can state with confidence that Angelos' cartoon idea is a complete original, and reflects nothing that I can recall planting in his subconscious :-). Mitch ======================================================================== Date: 12 May 1992 11:10:02 CDT From: Subject: Dies y Das As long as others seem to be going public with the info for the personal cont- act file, who am I to hold out? :-) Mitch Pravatiner 8025 S. Oglesby Avenue Chicago, Illinois 60617-1134 USA (312) 375-9758 (don't think it spells anything) I think that Central Standard, the operative time here in the winter, is six hours earlier than GMT at the same moment in real time. Central Daylight, which is operative as I write, is five hours behind GMT or six hours behind British Summer Time. You're on your own as to any further conversions. I like whipped cream, but usually eat ice cream without it. I don't have a strong preference one way or the other. The shoe size I buy seems to vary with the pair, evidently a function of the available widths. I think I'm fundmamentally either an 8 1/2 or a 9 E. Given that Meredith has also self-reported as an 8/12 (why do I think of Fellini classics as I write this?), I can foresee all this feeding into her occasional shtick of some time ago, on the notion of her somehow being astrally connected to me. On the other hand, I've always assumed that men's and women's shoe sizes are calculated differently, so that my specific pedal dimensions may differ from hers. Court, is your mailing address still what it was in January? Believe it or not, I'm on the verge of coughing up my response to your appeal for music back then. Hope you have the strength to get it out of the mailbox; it may either cure you or kill you, depending. :-) I was interested to note Angelos' encomium to Sophie B. Hawkins' album. It appears I'm missing something by buying cassettes; most of the better pictures are absent from the inlay card. (Then again, if I bought CDs I'd be missing more money than I'm already blowing on all this wonderful music :-) ). Jessica, what does the production schedule seem like at this point for future issues of the zine? I myself don't have much artistic ability, with or without a computer; but if anyone else wants to try creating display ads for the sundry Ecto products it might be fun. But by all means, go ahead and reprint my origi nal writings on these objects, if nothing else. It popped into my head over the weekend that had our friends chartered a train to travel to the Albany and Philly concerts, it would have been appropriate to call it the WRONG CENTURY LIMITED. It might be an appropriate name, too, for the imaginary Ecto industrial machine to enter the transportation business, as the premium train between some two points to be thought of some other time. Mitch ======================================================================== From: my friend my moon Date: Tue, 12 May 1992 13:29:46 EDT Subject: Enya and Sarah..let's try this again Seems like this wonderful system ate my last post. Anyway I watched the In Concert show last friday and managed to get it on tape. While the whole things mainly dealt with a Kenny Loggins performance they did add a couple gems about Enya and Sarah. The Enya interview bits were incredibly interesting. She talked about how she develops her songs. I didn't realize that she doesnt write the lyrics so that was a surprise. She also talked about how she and Nikki experiment primarily with vocals. It was fascinating. It's also really weird - but she has barely no accent - or at least I didn't think so. Then they talked with Sarah. I'm really kicking myself for not going to any of the concerts. The little bits they showed were amazing. Whoever said her voice was weak was missing something fundamental. Her interview bits were fairly interesting as well, tho I was more fascinated by Enya - mainly cause i've seen a Sarah interview before and this one was kind of disappointing in it's briefness. (:)) At any rate...if you missed the show you missed out on something unique. Im glad I made myself stay up to watch it as it ran til 1.30a and i've not been the night person i usually am lately. anyway sorry if this somehow came to you all twice.... kIrI -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Black room mirror echoes hargieka@craft.camp.clarkson.edu< > Warm blood tickles ebony lips Kirstin A. Hargie (kIrI)< > tear the cracking bone asunder "Just another 20-something< > set to grovel screams Gothic." < > fire whips < ----------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 12 May 92 13:34:19 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: Re: Dies y Das i like the subject, Mitch ;) and BTW, i thought Doug's post of this morning, with the tape duping table, etc, was one of the clearest, most concise email messages i have read in a while... (hee, the old english-major instincts wake from a decade's slumber ;) >Jessica, what does the production schedule seem like at this point for >future issues of the zine? I myself don't have much artistic ability, >with or without a computer; but if anyone else wants to try creating >display ads for the sundry Ecto products it might be fun. But by all >means, go ahead and reprint my origi nal writings on these objects, if >nothing else. i have edited most of the copy for the first issue... the remaining tasks are largely in layout and design (a matter in which there may be a *small* amount of disagreement within the self-appointed editorial board... not everyone shares my penchant for layered text, slanted lines, and arbitrary bleeds and illustrations ;) i also confess that i have already assembled all of Mitch, Angelos, and others ecto-marketing schemes for the first ecto-haha column... :) a few pictures would be refrigerated beans (in tupperware!)... any volunteers? :) maybe Happy will paint the illustrations -- imagine "Alice" modelling the latest ecto-fashion accessories ;) allow 6-8 weeks for footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "this is where life begins" -- HR ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: Re: Dies y Das Date: Tue, 12 May 92 13:46:28 EDT hi! Mitch writes: > It might be an appropriate name, too, for >the imaginary Ecto industrial machine to enter the transportation business, as >the premium train between some two points to be thought of some other time. But Happy has already thought about this in 'All Things' I'm talking about connections Between here and there So, IMHO 'All things' should be the official jingle for the Wrong Century Limited Transportation division of the ECTO conglomerate. :) The Ecto-Airline and Cruises will have to wait until Rhodes Vol. 6... What with 'The flight' and 'Mother Sea'... >I was interested to note Angelos' encomium to Sophie B. Hawkins' album. It >appears I'm missing something by buying cassettes; most of the better pictures >are absent from the inlay card. :) Greg writes: >imagine "Alice" modelling the latest ecto-fashion accessories ;) hehehe! :) Since alice is decorating my X display, I must admit that it would be more interesting to have a drawing of him brushing his teeth and flossing with the official ecto-toothpaste and dental floss! :) Angelos ------- cobwebs everywhere, it's time for the deep sweep... hAppy rHodes PS. Which brings to mind possibilities of a Happy cleaning service... ======================================================================== Date: 12 May 1992 15:31:43 CDT From: Subject: Now I remember what else I forgot... Did anyone see the appearance on last Friday's David Letterman show by Carly Simon (one of whose songs appeared on the HGP tape, thus making her germane to what we do here :-) )? All I was awake for was Dave thanking Carly, followe d by a commercial, followed by Dave displaying her new album cover and observin g that she smelled great, which he went on to say was, in effect, either necess ary or sufficient (I forget which) for success either on the talk show circuit or in the music business more generally (I again forget which). Unquiring mind wants to know. :-) Mitch ======================================================================== Date: 12 May 1992 15:43:15 CDT From: Subject: my Nth skinback (not quite 19th nervous breakdown :-) ) for today The system must be trying to P H U C Q U E E A U V E R (ponder awhile, it may become lucid :-) ) Kiri's posts in the same manner that it did to mine one time last week (qv). Be all this as it may, it seems that _In Concert_ last Friday must have been pretty good. I still hope someone else was watching Letterman at that time, but if nobody did I'll understand why. Mitch ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: Tori Amos and green onions Date: Tue, 12 May 92 18:48:52 EDT hi, I just *had* to post that the cover of the Crucify EP (<-- Note distinction this means you have to pay *more* than for a CD-single) is trully bizarre. Annie Lennox's _Diva_ comes a very close second. More on the music when I go home and listen to them. Angelos ------- 'Here we are now, entertain us' ======================================================================== Subject: Gemischtes (not only ice cream :) From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Tue, 12 May 92 23:21:24 GMT Doug wrote: > Klaus, walnut ice cream? :P While an ice cream fanatic, that is about the > only flavor that gives me the shudders! Enjoy it, while I dip into something > like almond coconut. Yum! :) I think our tastes in ice cream are opposite. Can't stand any ice with coconut. :) > Make mine "Spaghetti Eis!" :] > --chrissy Yeah, that sounds better. :) > Well, for a change, an Ecto-style artist is actually coming to Denver! So I'm > off to see Tori Amos tonight! Yea! It's amazing that she's playing so many places and giving quite a lot of Ectophiles the chance to see her. Hey, we should try to convince her to play in Perth as well! A couple of days ago, I saw the announcement of a concert of Yma Sumac in Cologne. Somehow I had the impression that her records were recorded decades ago, so reading that she is still performing was a big surprise. But I'm not considering visiting this concert. What I've heard from her is impressive, but I don't think I would enjoy a whole concert. But there were other surprises as well. This morning I found the intro- duction of an article about Laurie Anderson on the front page of our newspaper, announcing her tour in Germany. Finally I heard something from "Zap Mama", and even on our local radio station. Just one song (which was quite nice), but the good news was that they are going to broadcast a concert in July. Hope I don't forget that. A couple of days ago, I brought a friend a _Warpaint_ for his birthday and played him _Little Earthquakes_ and _Gula Gula_ from Mari Boine Persen. I was surprised to hear that the he recognized a song from _Gula Gula_, and he said it must have something to do with Peter Gabriel. Yes, I said, the album is on his label. But he remembered to have heard her on the "One World, One Voice" Video. I've just checked that, and he is right. There are 10 or 20 seconds from _Gula Gula_ on that video, as well as from another song and bits from an interview. Meredith wrote: > Thank you all for your requests for the final Champagne Jam!!! I'll > be taking them until midnight tonight (Monday), so keep 'em coming. This > show should, at the very least, be interesting! :) I am feeling so silly. Lost between timezones, I am. I wanted to call Meredith during her show and somehow thought the difference was 8 hours instead of 6. So I had a guy on the phone who asked "Meredith, who?", and after I mentioned "Champagne Jam" said it had finished more than an hour ago. :( And that with a clock with a timezone map in my hand. I shouldn't trust my feeble mind. I better go to sleep and let it rest a while. See you ... ... Klaus. ___________________________________________________________ ( "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. ) ) Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." ( / --- Happy Rhodes --- \ / Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge klaus@inphobos.w.open.de \ ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is a README file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me (or leave in the incoming directory, just let me know) things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)