Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1032 ecto, Number 1032 Thursday, 3 March 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* ectosimpson Tape swap? + random thoughts ectopics Re: Pass me those grits, Ms Siberry! Re: Pass me those grits, Ms Siberry! Re: Pass me those grits, Ms Siberry! Pass me those grits, Ms Siberry! Negative reviews? Listen to this... Live Ecto Artist Tape Dubs, KPNT St. Louis Paul Simon's "The Coast" heavenly voices Postal mortem and other stories Re: Cowboy Junkies on Conan tonight Ath! Bjork fans! _Fumbling Towards Ecstasy_ -- Sarah McLachlan Re: Equipoise.. Flamed? Moi? Re: Pass me those grits, Ms Siberry! ======================================================================== Subject: ectosimpson Date: Thu, 03 Mar 94 21:25:59 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu On the Simpsons tonight, they showed Burns (Homer's boss) as a young boy before he was adopted by a heartless millionaire. His parents (step-parents?) called him Happy...as in, "Happy, come over here." Mere coincidence? You be the judge... Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Everything is still with a fear of never coming out | |Suffering Bad Grammar| Never following through / Never ever finishing | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | What we wanted to do." -- Melissa Ferrick | ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 03 Mar 1994 23:40:43 -0400 (EDT) From: DAVE Subject: Tape swap? + random thoughts I'm being very unectophilic tonight, listening to the only Metallica album I ever purchased, really working out some major agression. OK, I know I don't need my asbestos pancho, because this has proven to be a nearly utopian list where everyone exists in harmony and tolerance, but let me broach a potentially prickly subject. We recently added the Disney Channel for my young (20 month old) son, who is exceedingly cute IM and most everybody elses O, and tonight while flipping through, I came to a stop for a few moments on a Celine Dion "concert". It was some big production number with about 50 "dancers" sort of wandering around aimlessly, but the thing that really got my attention was that voice. I've never been much for VH1 fodder and so have always dismissed her, but the song they were working on was a sort of an interesting slow thing, and quite frankly I found her voice to be quite beautiful. It was a lot like the k d lang performance on SNL that snapped me out of my "just another country singer" attitude. Now I'm not going to go out and start purchasing Celine Dion like I did k d, but I was just curious to know if anyone is familiar with her non-hit-single stuff enough to comment on whether there is really any merit to it? A Whole New World indeed. Now, I still have never heard Happy, and my local guy won't order any of her stuff for less than $18. As I am still recovering from back surgery that the doctor actually expects me to pay for (app $5600 so far; YIKES), my music budget is going to be quite restricted for the next, oh, say lifetime. I'm interested in seeing if anyone is interested in a tape swap of some sort. I absolutely promise that if the Happy stuff clicks with me, I will devote several months worth of milk money towards purchasing the actual CD's; I don't want to deprive a struggling artist of any capital. I'm not sure what I have to offer, but for starters, I've got all of Kate's official releases, Laurie Anderson's 5 LP set (was tht America I-IV; USA I-IV? wow, I'm blanking), a couple of Jane Siberry albums (the Walking and the Speckless Sky), Shawn Colvin's Fat City, lots of Joni Mitchell, and plenty more stuff I have around 1600 "albums", around 300 on CD, the rest on vinyl. Please let me know if you want to swap! I'll send high quality chrome tapes (probably Maxell UDXL-IIs). Thanks! dave ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 3 Mar 94 13:43:53 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (the king of spain) Subject: ectopics 'lo... first, the good news. i managed to get two tickets to the new york city tori show. they're on opposite sides of the balcony, but at least they are tickets. i was also told that they were the last two seats in the house, but i do not know if i should believe that yet. i also asked the guy how many tickets they had to sell to begin with. he said that about half were held back by the producer and that in the end, 273 (or so) of the about 900 seats available were up for sale to the general public. whoa. gee, this sounds too much like a rdt post...so i'll take care of some replies to rememdy that situation. ;) ezust@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (Alan Ezust) sez: > ARMS OF SOMEONE NEW: PROMISE > "Steve Jones' other band, 2-man studio unit creating hauntingly moody >nostalgia..." > anyone know about this one? i picked up one of their albums a while back and was pretty much neutral on it. it's steve jones, for sure, but it's not the dreamy pop of area. it's moody, yes, but in a dreary way...autmumnal. (everybody who saw my use of that word coming, raise your hand! :) it's not bad, but it's not great either. if it's cheap though, it's worth checking out. rjk1@cs.wustl.edu (Bob Kollmeyer) sez: >If you have any live performances of ecto-ish performers and have the >ability to get a copy to Doug, please send them on in to him for inclusion >in his tape dubbing project. a big hearty yay to bob about getting this off the ground and a gracious bow in the direction of fort collins to doug for taking this on. i'll be contributing some of the better live recordings of ectophilic artists from my collection to the project soon as i get a chance. +woj ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 11:17:03 -0800 (PST) From: Emily Breed Subject: Re: Pass me those grits, Ms Siberry! On Thu, 3 Mar 1994 iago@merle.acns.nwu.edu wrote: > Ooh, I would *definitely* have told you not to buy BBtB. It's a horrible > album that is far below Jane's otherwise high standards. How can anyone > compare BBtB to any of Jane's other albums and not walk out shaking his head > with disappointment? Some words I would use to describe this album are: > hokey, weak, derivative... Thank goodness she took so much time out after > BBtB before releasing WIWAB. I'm always pleasantly surprised by how differently we all think of various albums. Myself, I think that BBtB is brilliant - it's one of the ten I'd keep if someone held a gun to my head and made me weed my cd collection. :-) -- Emily ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 10:15:33 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: Pass me those grits, Ms Siberry! On Thu, 3 Mar 1994 jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu wrote: > Give it lots of chances. It took a *long* time to grown on me, but I think > it's wonderful. "The Life is the Red Wagon," "Half Angel, Half Eagle," the > title track...so many wonderful songs! And the only really country song on > there is "Something About Trains" which is just *amazing*. (and I > typically detest country music) And isn't _Hockey_ one of the best atmosphere/setting songs ever written?? Michael ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Pass me those grits, Ms Siberry! Date: Thu, 03 Mar 94 08:37:15 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Anthony drawls: >Why am I in such a hoe-down country mood? I'm listening to Jane's "Bound By >The Beauty", and to say it's not what I expected is an understatement. THIS >is the album that preceded "When I Was A Boy"? Yipes! Country, zydeco, >tango... yipes! That'll teach me to ask here forst before throwing $32 >away... :) Hate to say it, Anthony, but if you'd asked about BBtB, I would have *highly* recommended it. Give it lots of chances. It took a *long* time to grown on me, but I think it's wonderful. "The Life is the Red Wagon," "Half Angel, Half Eagle," the title track...so many wonderful songs! And the only really country song on there is "Something About Trains" which is just *amazing*. (and I typically detest country music) Jes' keep listening to it. It's sib-music, pure and not-simple. Don't expect to grok it on the the first listen. Jeff ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 3 Mar 94 22:26:21 +1100 From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Pass me those grits, Ms Siberry! Hi again y'all! Why am I in such a hoe-down country mood? I'm listening to Jane's "Bound By The Beauty", and to say it's not what I expected is an understatement. THIS is the album that preceded "When I Was A Boy"? Yipes! Country, zydeco, tango... yipes! That'll teach me to ask here forst before throwing $32 away... :) Luckily, my other $32 purchase, "The Walking", is wonderful. Anyone care to recommend other Siberry albums that fall more into the Walking/WIWAB genre? I received a wonderful little CD-EP from MDS Distributors here in Melbourne by a person named Wendy Ann Morrison - yes, the same Wendy Morrison who was formerly in a band called Shivers. It's called "Underwater Eyes" and was produced by Daniel Denholm, who did Frente!'s "Clunk" EP. A track or two will show up on the forthcoming Australian sampler tape I'm concocting... There may be some changes in this part of the network over the next few weeks, as mail gets re-routed and systems change over. If anything you mail me bounces, keep it and resend it - and if I disappear for a couple of days, don't panic, I'll be back! :-) Make sure you have a look at "In The Name Of The Father", in which Daniel Day Lewis comes up with the performance of his career... Jeff Wasilko talks of Lene Lovich: > Lene Lovich Trivia: Thomas Dolby played in her band before he made it big... And after he made it big, too! Lene also appears in Thomas's "Live Wireless" video. When I interviewed Lene around the time of the release of "March" I asked her how Thomas was - she seemed surprised that I had made the connection, then said that she had his mixing desk in her loungeroom at the time and was hoping he'd forget she had it... :) Ken Hoyme jets: > The airplane with the greatest kick (IMHO) is the Boeing 757. That baby > climbs off the runway like a bat out of hell. I wanna ride on one! :-) None of the Australian airlines have anything newer than a 767 at this stage, though... > (Obligatory dig, as I have designed part of the Boeing 777): Given that There's a 777? What's it do? > the A320 has had four crashes in 5 years, I personally "just love" it > when they make it to the gound safely! ;) Ooooh, rivalry! :-) I was told by a QANTAS person that the Airbus A320 is one of the safest planes ever built... and one of those crashes, at least, was due to over-the-top stunt piloting, not any problem with the plane... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "All told, Under The Pink is small but likeably formed; ideal for those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 21:50:51 PST From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) Subject: Negative reviews? Listen to this... Hi, Some people shouldn't be allowed to write reviews. I too saw the SPIN review of Sarah's FTE at a bookstore, and vowed to not buy that issue because of the nonsense it mentioned. But, today after I picked up 'March of the Pigs' (which rocks! BTW), I picked up SF Weekly, a free weekly Bay area newspaper. Here's a sample of a review of 'Under the Pink' by Tori Amos: "Tori Amos is the type of artst who thinks her prissy, precious poetry will actually save her from a cold, cruel world. She's dead wrong. The only fitting fate for this overtly whimsical wench is a Star Trek style face off on a deserted planet with the Gorn, a cold, cruel reptile who will have Amos' head on a stick in the name of all that's intergalactically just. The final scene would have the heroine repeatedly bleating some of the lace doily-type delicate-isms that adorn her new Under the Pink impasse.[...] Think outer space. Think way, way out, maybe even Uranus. That's how far Tori Amos seems to be from reality. The creepy thing is that every town fosters a girl like her, a poor, misunderstood note-scribbler who cries alone in her garret each night about all the neighborhood boys who shun her as strange. When her diary is opened to the public, so many words tumble out that the entire countryside is buried in dyspeptic drivel.[...] [...] Even an icicle, upon receiving an invitation to hide away with Tori Amos, might well phone up the Gorn and say: "Listen, could you get this tired tedious freak off my back?"" - Tom Lanham Phew! I think this is the absolute *worst* review of *anything* I have ever read. Maybe someone should post this to RDT. :-) Angelos PS. Bowie-o-philes in ecto should definitely check out 'The Buddha of Suburbia' Bowie's latest import only album which is IMHO his best work since Scary Monsters, and which features a lengthy encomium to Brian Eno in the liner notes. ======================================================================== From: rjk1@cs.wustl.edu (Bob Kollmeyer) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 22:44:09 -0600 Subject: Live Ecto Artist Tape Dubs, KPNT St. Louis I emerge from lurkerdom bearing joyous news! Doug of the Many Tapes (dbx@olympic.athos.colostate.edu) has volunteered to undertake the Ecto Artist Live Tape Dub Project! What started as my disappointment in the way the sales of tickets to Tori in Chicago (and desire to start a distribution through ecto of as much of her live material as possible, rationalizing that if I couldn't see her on the 24th I could at least listen to her live performances all day...) has ballooned into Doug offering to undertake a program much like the idea that was kicked around a month or so ago in these pages. To get things going, I'll be sending Doug these: Tori: Vancouver, Seattle, New York, West Palm Beach, Albany (all 1992) (the Vancouver and Seattle shows are from Maury's offer in rdt. I believe one or both have since been released on cd and probably offer better quality (Maury's copies weren't bad, but in both cases the recording misses part of the first song) Kate: Hammersmith, Christmas special w/Peter Gabriel Sinead: Hammersmith 1990, Philadelphia 1990 Concrete Blonde: Chicago 1991, Providence 1987 Edie Brickell & tNB: Houston 1990 If you have any live performances of ecto-ish performers and have the ability to get a copy to Doug, please send them on in to him for inclusion in his tape dubbing project. (as a personal request, I'd like to get a few more tori performances by the 24th. Probably a bit short notice, but I know there are oodles of them out there. 8) ) %%% include std.disclaimer %%%%%%%%%%%%% As the subject of bootlegs seems to be a touchy subject ethically, I should probably state that personally, I am of the camp that believes that bootlegs of live, unreleased material as a whole do not take any revenue from the artist. Then again, it has typically been the case that I only try to track down the "unofficial" material of artists I'm so fanatical about that I've already tracked down all "official" material (which tends to be cheaper and much, much more accessible) that I can get my hands on. I tend to despise those who out and out sell bootlegs, as they are typically motivated by profit, rather than fandom. Same goes for those who treat them as a "commodity" only to be traded and valued as a bargaining chip for getting more bootlegs while refusing to make copies for those who have nothing to offer. I would ask, then, that nobody use these tapes as a substitute for purchasing the official release of the material. Please. This is in no way meant to deprive the artists of well-deserved revenue. %%% end std.disclaimer %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% IN OTHER NEWS.... this just in... KPNT (the local, 1 year-old commercial alternative radio station (who's programming seems to follow one almighty rule: if it is "alternative" and it is popular, play it into the ground for as long as it remains "popular", then scrap it; if it isn't popular, "who are you talking about") has hired Jim McGuinn (of WEQX, ALBANY, NY) to do the programming. I have no personal experience with WEQX, but if he's from Albany, there's got to be a chance! ttnf, bob ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 20:15:48 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Sampson Subject: Paul Simon's "The Coast" Or was it "Proof"? Can any of you erudite folk substantiate or dispute my suspicion that a restaurant in Providence, RI's commercial on the radio is in violation of some FCC code or other by using "Proof" from Paul Simon's "Rhythm of the Saints" CD????? Does it depend on their getting permission?, or is it out of the question since it's so new? I frankly can't imagine them seeking permission as it's only a local restaurant on a Rhode Island station, and the cart is done by the chef/owner..... I'm going home to have my run-on indicator light fixed before I start talking and find myself unable to stop, thus preventing me from getting the sleep I will need to get me through work here tomorrow or at home, if the snow's bad, and I have to work at home........(Stop the Madness!!!! :P ) .----------------------------------------------------------------------. ./| We cower in our shelters with our hands over our ears. | |/| Lloyd-Webber's awful stuff runs for years and years and years. | |/| An earthquake hits the theatre but the operetta lingers. | |/| Then the piano lid comes down and breaks his fucking fingers. | |/| It's a miracle. .-----------------------| |/| -Roger Waters "It's a Miracle" | Chris Sampson | |/| | chris@neuron.uchc.edu | |/`-----------------------------------------------`-----------------------' |///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// `------------------------------------------------------------------------' ======================================================================== From: ezust@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (Alan Ezust) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 20:55:01 -0500 Subject: heavenly voices I just got my own Heavenly Voices. It is a very nice product, highly recommended. I suspect however, that if you miss your chance at getting this limited edition, with beautiful packaging, you will still later be able to get the discs themselves sold separately, as Hyperium records is now doing exactly that with another ltd edition compilation of Hyperium msuic called "From Hypnotic... To Hypersonic". It reminds me a lot of This Mortal Coil, only more "Etherial". What's interesting is that the photography is deliberately supposed to look like cover art from This Mortal Coil, and who else but Caroline Seaman is pictured EVERYWHERE, in mostly blurry black-and-white insets. I think she is also the one pictured on TMC cover art, although I could be mistaken. Anyone else care to clarify? Caroline Seaman also appears as the singer on one of the tracks. The group is called "Pupilla" and her voice is unmistakable. She sounds just like she did in the group "Heavenly Bodies", which makes me think that perhaps she had something to do with the naming of the compilation!! Has anyone obtained a full release by Pupilla? How is it? Hyperium is distributed by Projekt in the US, so they sent me a Projekt catalog which had some interesting stuff, but one item I thought was important to mention was: AREA: The Perfect Dream "The third release (of five) from Steve Jones' Area with Lynn + Hendy who are now in TM7T. $7 for LP or Casette" (NO CD mentioned). I think this is the best thing AREA has ever done. ARMS OF SOMEONE NEW: PROMISE "Steve Jones' other band, 2-man studio unit creating hauntingly moody nostalgia..." anyone know about this one? -- | Alan Ezust ezust@cs.mcgill.ca Montreal, Quebec, Canada | |------------- McGill University School of Computer Science ----------------| "Recursion is a lot like recursion, only a little simpler." ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 16:57:47 CST From: Subject: Postal mortem and other stories This morning's paper had a story on how the post office has been investigating the abysmal quality of delivery service in certain zip codes. Turns out the one Vickie lives in is one of them. It ties in, somehow, with all the anec- dotal reports that floated around this list in 1991, about some people's con- tributions to that year's HGP (which was coordinated by Vickie) never making it to Gaffa Central. Wonder whose truck they're sitting in the back of now? If they're ever delivered, maybe we can do a "Director's Cut" of HGP91 :-). Speaking of mail: I mailed AG a check for a newsletter sub a month or so ago, but have received nothing yet. I said I wanted it started with the issue that had just come out as of that time. Are they generally behind, or what? Check out a couple of posts in alt.music.progressive. One recounts how the poster was flabbergasted to discover psychedelic-sounding effects in the middle of "Off From Out From Under Me," only to find out that he just was play- ing the wrong track backwards. The other says he admires what Happy's trying to do, but the final product leaves him cold, she sings out of tune, and needs a good producer. Go figure. What's ntalk? This came up on IRC yesterday. I eschewed the Grammys in favor of Roseanne and NYPD Blue, and so far I've nev- er regretted it. I did manage to catch the Cowboy Junkies on Conan O'Brien. I didn't catch the name of the number they did, but it was well done. Sleeping through the first hour of _World News Now_ was a small price to pay for this musical interlude :-). Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 02 Mar 94 09:33:16 -0500 From: "Dennis G Parslow" Subject: Re: Cowboy Junkies on Conan tonight >These ever-changing talk show schedules are gonna drive me nuts! >No sooner do I post a list of musical guests to ecto than the >Cowboy Junkies are announced as the guests on tonight's "Late >Night With Conan O'Brien" show. Sorry for the last-minute notice. > >--Sue Trowbridge > WAAAHHHHHHHH!!!! Again, I find out too late! (Thanks for trying!) Dennis Parslow Today I am a small blue thing. Troy, NY 12180 Suzanne Vega p00421@psilink.com ======================================================================== Subject: Ath! Bjork fans! Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 14:12:15 GMT From: tim@falcon.is (Tim Breitkreutz) Hi all. Today, my money, time, and location all finally converged to make it possible to purchase a CD that I first heard about shortly after arriving in Iceland: Title: Gling-glo Artists: Bjork Gudmundsdottir & Trio Gudmundar Ingolfsson The store owner assured me it is not available outside Iceland, and I certainly never heard of it before I came here. Anybody heard about it in Ectoland? Is there a Bjork mailing list I should be checking? This is a Jazz trio with Bjork singing vocals (and harmonica on one tune) accompanied by piano, acoustic bass, and drums. The lyrics are all in Icelandic so I can't understand much of them (yet!), and there are sixteen tracks, with 52 minutes of music on the disc. The musicians, on first listen, sound excellent, and the vocals are interesting as usual. The style is sometimes kind of Vince-Guaraldi-ish, other times a bit more dark. It cost me IKR1890, which works out to CDN$34. (Like everything else here, it costs about double what it does at home, and sorry, I don't have any other monetary conversion factors handy) Email me for more information, or if you want to buy one. You might be able to buy it tax free directly from the store, in which case it might be 15% or more cheaper. Tim -- Tim Breitkreutz Email: tim@falcon.is Tel: +354 1 19407 Snail Mail: Thorsgata 14, 101 Reykjavik, Iceland "Is there a seed to plant the tree that grows the fruit I need?" - T.D. ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 07:14:56 +0700 From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: _Fumbling Towards Ecstasy_ -- Sarah McLachlan Greetings, [Gee, over 277 Ectophiles now? Why did you have to mention that, Klaus? I might get stage fright now! :) It's been a long fun road, from the original dozen-plus.] Sarah McLachlan is a strange artist for me. Looking at her music objectively, I can pick many nits, large and small, which normally bug the hell out of me. Thus my written descriptions of her music always end up sounding like I can't stand her. Yet subjectively, I lap up all of her music, always hungry for more. Somehow all of the subpar pieces melt into a greater whole. With that semi-disclaimer out of the way, I'll still try to describe _Fumbling Towards Ecstasy_. Musically, I found the music more coherent, intricate, richer, and (in some senses) varied, compared with her earlier albums. The music for most of the songs still does not call much attention to itself, though I felt that she employed it to better effect. For example, the edginess of the music and her vocals add a lot to "Fear". However, this came at the price of any outstanding melodies or hooks, admittedly never one of her strengths. Yet the musical strength of this album certainly is not meant to be the music, which serves as the accompaniment to McLachlan's wonderful wide-ranging voice. Her voice sounded as full and assured as I've ever heard it. Lyrically, she rarely moves off her patch of exploring the emotions of all stages of a broken, often obsessive, love -- fearing a treasured love will fall apart, trying to deal with a failing or failed love, and trying to pick up the pieces afterwards. Yet though more limited in subject than in the past, I felt this album held some of her strongest song-writing. The lyrics were much more strongly rooted in reality, adding to their power (though at the cost of some memorable imagery). I also think it's noteworthy of the only off-topic song ("Good Enough") is one of the best songs on the album. Overall, this album holds much less filler and experimentation. She seems to have settled into a style she likes. This album holds songs with strong music and strong lyrics, but for me the two sets were disjoint. Any album now, she could to put all of the pieces together and blow everyone completely away. "Fumbling Towards Ecstasy" is a wonderful song title, all by itself. Amazingly it alone adds another dimension to the song's lyrics, a very rare occurrence in music. Number one of my list of such songs is Stephen Stills' "For What It's Worth". Listener advisory: On CD, an acoustic version of "Possession" is tacked onto the same track as "Fumbling Towards Ecstasy", separated by about a minute of silence and a piece of musical fumbling (definitely not towards ecstasy :) ). Rating: ****o Highly recommended for anyone, though (per usual) your mileage may vary. Final note: I will see her in concert tonight, and enjoyed a Sarah McLachlan marathon Tuesday evening! :) :) Fumbling towards XTC, I remain ... Doug Burks _O_ @>->--- dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 19:41:56 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Equipoise.. > Hi all... Hi Charles, can you tell I'm as behind and as spaced out as ever? :-) > I have come to the conclusion that _Equipoise_ is a brilliant album, I'm *so* glad you like it! > It doesn't work for me to follow along with the lyrics the first time I hear > something new. Anyway, I think I've figured out most of _Equipoise_ now, > but I am having trouble understanding what is going on in "Out Like A Lamb". > I think I get the first part of the song, but what does the following part > mean? > " for seventeen hours he moved vern out piece by piece > by six a.m. he'd broken his lease." > I have an idea as to what this song is about, but would like to know for > sure.. > help?? I'm sorry that this was ignored :(, but I had intended to write a long post about it, and that never works. I "save it for later" then never get back to it. Basically, only Happy knows the full story behind this (and a few other ultra-personal songs) and I can only guess what she meant. It's pretty much about her father, but Happy's never given many details about him. My own *guess* (word very much emphasized) is that "broken the lease" refers to death. Lease on life? I only say that because I know that Happy's father is dead, not from anything else Happy's told me. Sorry this very unhelpful letter took so long to get to you :-(. *GUH* her ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 22:10:44 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Lovejoy Subject: Flamed? Moi? Zooks! While engaged in some loose chatter about Gentle Giant in one of the newsgroups (rec.music.progressive), I mentioned that I was listening to "Warpaint". My canadian correspondent returned a note that mentioned how he too loved Happy's music. Naturally, I told him of Ecto, and he will be looking into us shortly. Today there were two other replies, both strongly anti-Happy.:( One guy said she was boring, the other that she never sang in tune. Guess they were thinking of someone else... Flamed on usenet! I'm not used to the Big World out there, after the cozy comfort of Ecto. Well, at least Alain is a fan... Bob the astonished ======================================================================== From: hamster@werple.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Pass me those grits, Ms Siberry! Date: 4 Mar 1994 01:04:12 +1100 jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu writes: >Anthony drawls: :-) >>Why am I in such a hoe-down country mood? I'm listening to Jane's "Bound By >>The Beauty", and to say it's not what I expected is an understatement. THIS >>is the album that preceded "When I Was A Boy"? Yipes! Country, zydeco, >Give it lots of chances. It took a *long* time to grown on me, but I think >it's wonderful. "The Life is the Red Wagon," "Half Angel, Half Eagle," the >title track...so many wonderful songs! And the only really country song on >there is "Something About Trains" which is just *amazing*. (and I >typically detest country music) I hope my previous post didn't offend anyone or cast me in an evil light - I was trying to be humorous, registering my surprise at BBtB not being anything like what I expected; I can't stand country music usually, but there are things about this record I already like, and that's on the first listen (the title track being the first thing to grab me). Naturally I will, like everything I buy, keep listening until I can form a firm opinion of the music; what with me doing this combined with what I said about Kristen Hersh the other week, you all must be thinking I listen to things once and then dismiss them outright. I don't! :) One thing I am curious about, though, is how Jane found herself in such a stylistic mood, so removed from the albums that bookend it... >Jes' keep listening to it. It's sib-music, pure and not-simple. Don't >expect to grok it on the the first listen. Don't worry, I'll be patient with it! And I'll take a valium before my next EctoPost.... :^) - Anthony -- (@) (@) | Anthony Horan UU | Melbourne Australia //////// | "Alas, poor kcirroY... anthony@xymox.apana.org.au | I knew him backwards!" ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)