Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #468 ecto, Number 468 Monday, 1 March 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Happy Rhodes/15 years of my life RE: zoolook/Philip Glass/etc You just _knew_ how I'd respond to this one, didn't you? :-) One More Time the film Mitch forgot Real musicians Waiting for the big one Video Alert Revised titntat ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 23:26:20 +0100 From: yngveh@stud.cs.uit.no (Yngve Hauge) Subject: Happy Rhodes/15 years of my life This is a rather tough step to take for me but somewhere do I have to start and why not here. So what have Happy Rhodes to do with 15 years of my life? I've only told this to about 10 people before so........ Hmmmm, As I read about Happy's childhood it struck me how close this was to what I had gone through myself. The first ten years of my life I moved around a lot with my family - actually lived half a year in Goettingen, Germany, where my parents both studied medicine. As they had finished their studied we all moved back to Norway where we in my first 5 years lived at 10 different places. Not very good for a young child. From I was 5 to I began at school as I was 7 I sort of got the peace to get friends and.......I had gone to school for half a year as we moved again this time to a small town half an hour with car outside Oslo. It was then the nightmare began. I was just like as the other children always looked at me as a stranger. I never really got any friends. That means I was going much alone. The others never talked to me when others were in the same room/or around. I began to feel like a stranger. Got quiet, lost my self-confidence. And became what I now will call a none- person (I don't know how to translate it properly). I was so afraid that I did never tell anyone about how I felt it or how the others threatened me. So this lasted for 4 years until we again moved back to the place I had lived 4 years ago and where my parents live now. I actually thought that all was going back to normal then but..... I was changed. I had been quiet...afraid when I was together with other people. Talked very little.......Just stood there, shy and didn't trust anyone enough to tell my feelings. What I now blame myself I didn't. Now even my old friends turned away from me. All but a little group........When I was together with them I felt good, but only with them. Even if I didn't talk much, they respected me cause I was as good as them. And what did we do?? We played music......Music that should save my life. Yeah, I was quite far down. And now I'm sure I can thank one person that I live. As I reached the first year at gymnasium (10. year at school) everything changed. I felt much better. My old 'friends' disapeared and I got some new. But I still was very quiet. Only talked when others asked me a question or talked directly at me. Still I was afraid - didn't trust others. Couldn't open myself. So after that year I decided to take a year off. I went with Afs (American Field Service) as exchange student to Germany. And there I had a marvelous time. I met a lot of new people from all over the world and actually could show who I really was. But When I came back it all went back to 'normal'. The old thoughts about suicidecame back. And this time I not only thought about it but planned it too. But as before I was afraid of that too. Upto then I mostly had consentrated on classical music. I played the violine and has done it now for 13 years. My first album I bought with popular music was Fleetwood Mac's Rumours, and I guess it was this album that tuned my life around. I had got something to consentrate about - collecting music. It was just natural that I started to collect FM. This is now 4 years and three months ago. The weird thing is that I got Warpaint on exactly the same day as I bought Rumours. I have now nearly completed FM on CD with 30 out of 35 CDs. I got hooked by Tori Amos and Kae Bush nearly a year ago. And now Happy Rhodes............ Four years have I used to build myself up. That means I've lost 15 years of my life. But I've also gained a lot - The music. And to write this has made me feel a lot better. After some hard struggles the last weeks I feel like a new person. My past has become like a nightmare long time ago.........It's become the past. Yngve -- *** Yngve Hauge ******* And the summer became the fall ****** ** University of Tromsoe ** I was not ready for the winter ** * yngveh@stud.cs.uit.no ** It makes no difference at all **** *********************** 'Cause I wear boots all summer long * ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 12:50:49 +1000 From: GRAHAM.G.R.DOMBKINS@bhpmelmsm.bhp.bhpmel04.telememo.au Subject: RE: zoolook/Philip Glass/etc Anthony sez... >Trivia (for those interested in such things): Jean Michael Jarre is >the son of the French composer Maurice Jarre, who, among other things, >did the soundtrack to the film Witness. He also did much of the soundtrack to Ghost. ======================================================================== Graham Dombkins GRAHAM.G.R.DOMBKINS@BHPMELMSM.BHP.bhpmel04.telememo.au ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Hello Earth!! hello Earth..." - KT "I'm out chasing nuns in the yard..." - TA Space for undecided Happy quote. - HR ======================================================================== ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 16:08:44 CST From: Subject: You just _knew_ how I'd respond to this one, didn't you? :-) Christine says: >I believe they sell Blueberry Juice at the Violet in the village...on 4th >street..right next to NYU's student center...kitty corner to it.... So: for potable blue juice, as opposed to that awful Big Hug stuff, take the next available flight to Kennedy, then take the shuttle bus (which took me for- ever to wait for the only time I've tried it) to the Howard Beach subway statio n, where you switch to the Airport Express train. I can't remember for sure, b ut I think it stops at West 4th. If not, I'm pretty sure you can change at Times Square, or at least somewhere in midtown, to a train that does. (While the PATH has presumably been bollixed by the explosion, the media out here have said nothing about the IND being fried. You should check on that, though, befo re doing any long-distance traveling :-).) _Pulse_ had a story about Shelleyan Orphan a couple of months ago. Apparently their name is rooted in the poetry of Percy Bysshe Shelley, whose wife, as we all know, wrote _Frankenstein_. WRT Blake's "Tyger, Tyger:" If you're in WFMT's reception area (locally or on Cable), kep an ear peeled for when _The Midnight Special_ does Second City's 1950's-vintage spoof of WFMT, featuring Alan Arkin as a folksinger doing a folk rendition of that poem, and engaging in a colloquy with the announcer WRT how to interpret it. Example: does the line "Water heaven with your tears" make the song metaphysical? They don't decide for sure, but they do conclude that it makes the song non-Newtonian, since the tears would have to fall up. Meredith says: >Don't you guys have better things to do with your lives than post to this >group???? :) No :-). (At least in my case.) Then again, maybe I should take that back. Today, the City of Chicago has give n the public sector the day off for Pulaski Day, and the film exhibition indust ry has responded with early shows today. I ducked out from my life in ecto to watch the matinee of _Strictly Ballroom_ at the Fine Arts. It's well worth seeing, a comedy about a ballroom dancer who tries to do something different with his art, and has numerous run-ins with the establishment as a result. Personal to Bob Lovejoy: If the note I just sent you doesn't reach you, let me know in ecto and I'll resend the same info--shared with all our friends, to be sure--via this medium. I think your system is having problems. Woj says: >perience, this is not the case with wxpn or wplj up here in jersey which >i think broadcasts from paterson college. I always thought WPLJ was the old WABC-FM in NYC. I also feel mildly bad about failing to save Woj all that typing of the Keillor poem on Socks when I had the chance. Somebody posted it to rec.pets.cats, and I have it online. While I was skimming the morning incoming before going to th e flicks, I figured I'd incorporate it into this posting later in the day, but have now been beaten to the punch :-). He apparently did it on his show shortl y after the election, and it was reprinted in the NY Times under the title "Cats Credo." But it's good no matter who transcribes it in these pages, right ? :-) Speaking of GK: This weekend's show was a rerun of the episode that featured Rosalie Sorrels, whose album _Always A Lady_ will reportedly be reissued soon on the Green Linnet label. WRT Loreena McKennitt as a button on _Marketplace_: today at the pictures they had a trailer for a French-Canadian film, whose name I've already forgotten, which apparently uses the instrumental riffs from "The Lady of Shallot" for som e of its incidental music. As far as I recall, Material Issue is a hard rock band, but I may be mistaken. I wasn't aware they were from Chicago. Happy alinging herself with _Vollenweider_? Heresy! :-) Damn glad she came to her senses and didn't go through with that. WRT Tamar on weather in general and Bay Area weather in particular: Only in San Francisco have I found myself shivering in the morning and sweating in the afternoon. Contrary to her apparent self image, it's the kind of climate that does require a certain amount of coping ability. I came back from my first trip there with a cold. I'll spare you the great words of Mark Twain. :-) WRT Philip Glass: interesting coincidence that "Koyaanisqaatsi" (sp?) is Hopi for "Life out of balance." Sort of the opposite of equipoise. What does Powqaatsi mean? The Chicago snow the other day could indeed be lake effect, though the TV didn' t say anything to that effect. Last night _World News Now_ ran Rickie Lee Jones' "Danny's All Star Joint" with the weather, to pictures of Antarctica. Wonder what they'd do to illustrate Happy's music? The mention of Victoria Willioams reminds me that last week NPR did a story on research being done on a treatment for MS, which is thought to be an autoimmune disorder; the treatment tries to keep the immune system from going after nerve cells. Mitch ------------------------ In memory of Ruby Keeler and Lillian Gish ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 12:55:50 +1000 From: GRAHAM.G.R.DOMBKINS@bhpmelmsm.bhp.bhpmel04.telememo.au Subject: One More Time Hi all, I'm just trying to chase down a group I saw on Rage on the weekend. They called themseleves One More Time and the song I saw was called Highland. Well I quite liked it and I'm interested in finding more about them. Can anybody out there help? ======================================================================== : Graham Dombkins /\/\ : Personal Computer Services / / /\ : BHP Information Technology / / / \ : PO Box 261, Warrawong, NSW 2502, AUSTRALIA / / / /\ \ : A.C.N. 006 476 218 \ \/ / / / : Phone +61-42-757522 ext 6998 \ / / / : Fax +61-42-757908 \/\/\/ : E-mail GRAHAM.G.R.DOMBKINS@ : BHPMELMSM.BHP.bhpmel04.telememo.au : AppleLink GRAHAM.G.R.DOMBKINS@=D002183@INTERNET# : AppleLink AUST0387 : X.400 G=GRAHAM I=GR S=DOMBKINS OU=BHPMELMSM O=BHP : P=BHPMEL04 A=TELEMEMO C=AU ======================================================================== "Hello Earth!! "I'm out chasing hello Earth..." - KT nuns in the yard..." - TA ======================================================================== ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 18:15:36 EST From: justin@crim.ca (Justin Bur) Subject: the film Mitch forgot is Leolo, by Jean-Paul Lauzon (director of Un zoo la nuit (Night Zoo)). The way the bit of Loreena's music is used is very nice the first time, repetitious the second, and tiresomely annoying by the thirty-fifth. Confound it, didn't the film people listen to enough of the album to pick out more than *one* 10-second excerpt? Grrr gnash grumble gack. Apart from this frightful misuse of good music, though, the film is pretty good. Some people even say it's a masterpiece. (I wouldn't.) justin ======================================================================== Subject: Real musicians Date: Mon, 01 Mar 93 18:34:10 EST From: Angelos Kyrlidis Hi, [It's nice to have ecto back on line :) ] Meredith writes: >And I agree with woj and others that authentic instruments would have >enhanced the impact of the music even more. I mean, she had real musicians >with her for parts of it, why not the whole thing? But that is, at best, a >minor quibble. Could it be the grand issue of m-o-n-e-y? I mean the band members really like Happy and everything, but I assume they aren't playing for free. Plus, using their own synths and their own studio for a big part of the recording, probably cut down the cost of making the album, thereby making it possible. That would be a good question for H&K though. Given the choice between real musicians and a synthesizer, what would you prefer and why? Also, let us not forget that Happy can't write music, so she would have to show them what she wanted them to play, possibly by recording it herself on the synth... Just thinking aloud... Angelos (who did not get Prince tix after all :() 'If you think you're free, well listen to me, you ain't seen nothing yet'-TRB PS. I posted the lyrics to FTF in alt.music.queen, where there was a discussion about tributes to bands by covering their songs. If anything interesting develops, I will let you all know. ======================================================================== Date: 01 Mar 93 17:40:06 EST From: Mike Mendelson Subject: Waiting for the big one Vickie reveals big news: > Current Really Big News: H&K want to do a "radio tour" such as the one > that Tori did. Happy has been working up acoustic versions of EQP songs > in preparation. The first radio station they'd hit would most likely be > WXPN, and, at the same time, World Cafe. A list hasn't been drawn up yet, > but Kevin *promised* me that he'd keep me informed as to which stations > Happy will play. This should *hopefully* be happening within the next > couple of months. Kevin seemed optimistic that they'll go to the West > coast. Of course, they need airplay at whatever stations they go to. > (So *CALL* and request...call early, call often!) Um, for those of us *not* familiar with the concept (am I the only one? sheesh!) could you please elaborate as to what exactly a *radio tour* consists of? I did not know Tori did one. Is it going to stations and playing in the studio? Is it playing live venues but restricting admittance to radio personalities and execs? Thanks. -mjm ======================================================================== Subject: Video Alert Revised Date: Mon, 01 Mar 93 16:20:00 -0800 From: johnz@eaglet.rain.com Mike was correct that 10,000 Maniacs are on tonight, but not *Tonight* as in Leno. My listings show them on Arsenio. johnz@eaglet.rain.com ======================================================================== Date: 01 Mar 1993 19:39:16 -0500 From: scasterg@waltham.columbus.oh.us (Stuart M. Castergine) Subject: re: Real musicians > Also, let us not forget that Happy can't write music, so she would have to > show them what she wanted them to play, possibly by recording it herself > on the synth... Why do so many pop musicians not read music? Kate doesn't either, if I've heard right. It's not hard. I started learning when I was nine years old and it was not long before I had mastered it. Transcribing compositions is mostly a matter of unutterable tedium (which may be aversion enough), not any particular difficulty in the notation itself. --- scasterg@waltham.columbus.oh.us -- Stuart Castergine ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 20:18:44 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (l.l. cool bean) Tamar sez: >Has anyone around here heard of the group Three Merry Widows? yep, i've got that album too. i saw them back a few years ago before the album was released when they opened for, um, mazzy star at woody's in new york city. i was stunned by their performance and avidly looked for- ward to the album which the guitarist told me about. i snatched it up soon as it was released and was disappointed muchly - their live presence does not come across well at all on the record. dunno anything else though - they kinda disappeared after that and i've not heard hide or tail of them since the album came out. meth@aol.com sez: >Here's one for you Chicago `Philes: a friend of mine is really into a local >Chicago band called Material Issue, and is looking for anything at all >recorded by them. I know nothing about this band, but promised him I'd check >my sources since he's a sweetie and I'm nice too. :> Anyone have a clue? not too bad guitar pop band horrendously marketed for the alternateen crowd who burst upon the 120 minutes scene back in 1991 i think it was. had a minor hit with "valerie loves me" off an album that i can't recall the title of, though i know i should. i seem to think that they had a 2nd release too, but that might be a hallucination. lot of help i am, eh? ;) i'm looking for info (as is beth, i imagine) on a band called blue rubies and a singer named rebecca jenkins. i seem to remember hearing about the later somewhere (did she sing backup for jane siberry? that's what the neurons tell me...) but the former i'd never heard of until beth sent me a tape wit a tune of theirs on which i absolutely love. anybody have any info? woj (official ecto grouch :( :) ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 21:05:45 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: You just _knew_ how I'd respond to this one, didn't you? :-) Mitch mitches: > _Pulse_ had a story about Shelleyan Orphan a couple of months ago. Apparently > their name is rooted in the poetry of Percy Bysshe Shelley, whose wife, as we > all know, wrote _Frankenstein_. _Helleborine_, __Century Flower_ and _Humroot_ are SO's 3 albums. (I don't recall seeing all three posted, but I might have missed them. I've been an SO fan since the first album (I played an SO song on my very first "Suspended In Gaffa" show on March 13, 1988) and though I'd recommend the albums, I will say that they are somewhat uneven (to me) and that Caroline doesn't sing on every song. Jemar sings some with C on background, plus they sing a lot of straight duets. I maybe kinda sorta think that Humroot is my favorite. It's nice to see them getting attention. > Today, the City of Chicago has given the public sector the day off for > Pulaski Day, and the film exhibition industry has responded with early > shows today. I ducked out from my life in ecto to watch the matinee of > _Strictly Ballroom_ at the Fine Arts. It's well worth seeing, a comedy > about a ballroom dancer who tries to do something different with his > art, and has numerous run-ins with the establishment as a result. I second this. I saw this last Friday. Chris is in Kansas City for a week and I wanted to see something I didn't think he'd be interested in. The Fine Arts is only a block away from where I work so I looked to see what was playing. The Crying Game is playing there, but it started at 4:45 and I get off at 4:40 and I knew I wouldn't make it by the time I cleaned up my owrk area and did paperwork, so I chose _Strictly Ballroom_ instead. It is a cute film. (I love quirky little Australian comedies. _Bliss_ is our favorite film after _Brazil_.) When I was a kid, my dad was in the VFW (Veterans of Foreign Wars) and we went to the VFW hall quite often for everything from Pot Luck dinners to Bingo to Ballroom dances. My parents weren't into that, but they loved watching it, so I ended up watching it too. I was then, and still am, probably from nostalgia, fascinated with it, especially the women's costumes. If I'm switching channels and come across a competition, I've been known to forget to turn the channel. I thought Strictly Ballroom was going to be a serious film, maybe even a documentary, about that subculture. (I hadn't seen any previews) I'd still like to see a documentary about it sometime, but I liked the movie as it was. Fun was definitely poked at all the hoopla surrounding ballroom dancing. I had a great time, and it was made even better when I found out that 2 actors from _Bliss_ were in it too. Barry Otto and Gia can't remember her last name but she played the daughter in Bliss. I recognized Gia right away, even though her character's makeup was *so* garish, all bright blue eye shadow and hot pink lipstick. For some reason it took me quite a while to recognize Barry Otto, even though we've seen _Bliss_ more times than I can even begin to remember and we just saw it a few weeks ago. He looks *very* different! When the show was over, I wanted to see something else so I went to another theater downtown and saw _Untamed Heart_. I *LOVED* this movie!! I think I could see it a million times and not get tired of it, just because of Marisa Tomei. She's a joy, a delight to watch! (Ok, so Christian Slater was cute and sweet too :-), but it's Marisa who carries the film. Speaking of movies, I hear that _Lorenzo's Oil_ is just now opening in England (and elsewhere around the world?) and I ***HIGHLY**HIGHLY*** recommend the film. It's not an "easy" film to watch or understand, but your mind, heart and soul will be deeper and richer for having attempted it. >The mention of Victoria Williams reminds me that last week NPR did a story on >research being done on a treatment for MS, which is thought to be an autoimmune >disorder; the treatment tries to keep the immune system from going after nerve >cells. Don Scuddaby(sp?) has been working on an oil for MS. He's the British chemist who came up with Lorenzo's Oil, based on the Odone's specifications. He's had to stop work on it due to illness, but other people at his company, Croda International in Humberside, England are continuing his work. It's been in development for 5 years and will be tested on 45 MS patients later this year. I have an article here..."Lorenzo had adrenoleukodystrophy (ALD), in which the insulating sheath that surrounds nerve fibers is stripped away. The same happens in Multiple Sclerosis." This article says that the MS oil is entirely different from Lorenzo's Oil though. If it works, it still won't be a cure (as Lorenzo's Oil is not a cure) but will just stop the symptoms. While Croda is working on that, the Odones are working on The Myelin Project, to find ways to regenerate the myelin sheaths which have been stripped away. If they (and of course, the scientists who are working with them) succeed, it will help ALD and MS sufferers. > In memory of Ruby Keeler and Lillian Gish Yes. Vickie -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Happy Rhodes-Equipoise, it's *WONDERFUL*! (imnsho) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Vickie "Fight for the right "My ears are lucky to hear vickie@pilot.njin.net to have monsters" TA these glorious songs" HR _________ "Imagination sets in, then |_ _ | _ The Happy Rhodes mailing list all the voices begin" KB |__|_ ||_| ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Searching for Happy Rhodes reviews, articles, interviews, mentions -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 01 Mar 93 20:21:59 CST From: kiri Subject: titntat Thank whomever that Happy isn't going wtih Andreas. Andreas makes that gooey ooshiee music that makes me want to vomit. (IMHO). Having to sing along to that mush for 14 months would be awful, talk about a musical vacuum. anyway.... *phew got that off my chest* <-: Radio radio radio...yippie!! Any chance we can get her to come down to mississippi :) Guess i'm gonna have to dial up those didjits in the local alt station and get them to get equipoise and play it constantly.... i'm _still_ working on kiri does equipoise...i haven't had the time to write anything in great detail - so far. However, I have next week off so i'll be listening and writing with great voracity (hmm is that right). til then kIrI oh Angelos...Gabi/Vern story was much too cool!!!! i loved it *heeee* **************************************************** * Kiri Hargie byhargie@vm.cc.olemiss.edu * * byhargie@umsvm * * A ni nach cluinn cluas cha ghluais cridhe * **************************************************** ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)