Errors-To: owner-ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #179 ecto, Number 179 Friday, 6 March 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Hellos From Vickie Ectoid matters Re: catching up how to get onto the net from New Jersey Alison Moyet in Boston MA... Sabotage Fluff (tm) A little poem old post Gebratene Gruene Gedanken Yes, yes ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 05 Mar 92 17:00:02 CST From: Vickie via Chip Subject: Hellos From Vickie Hi everyone. I just got off the phone with Vickie and she asked me to send a little note from her. She is temporarily without net access at the time because her computer is out of commission. Since she doesn't have access to her files, she cannot access the birthday list to wish all you Ectophiles with March Birthdays a Happy Birthday. So, if your birthday is in March, *** H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y *** Vickie sends her greetings to everyone. She is doing find and nothing is wrong, she just doesn't have a computer at present. I called her last night when I read the "where is vickie" ramblings to make sure all is ok (we only live a few blocks from each other). Happy News from Vickie: Not too much new. She talked to Kevin recently and rehearsals are going well. Also (and she doesn't have any further information) the Happy-and-Kevin- produced T-Shirts are now finished and will be available at the concerts and via snailmail. Unfortunately she didn't have any further details. So, this is just a quick message to let you all know that Vickie is fine and well and she sends her love. Any messages that *must* get through to her can go through me, but try not to blow up my account. :) See ya all. Chip Lueck (Jeff) chip-l@nwu.edu Northwestern University OR (708) 467-1897 Work Phone jlueck@nuacvm.bitnet ======================================================================== Date: 5-MAR-1992 18:10:45.17 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Ectoid matters Hi! Mitch surprised me with a short post, but little was I to know what lay in store further down the Digest. ;) Incidentally, just how long is this sentence in "Last Exit To Brooklyn"? Isn't "Finnegan's Wake" one sentence, or does it just contain one 44-page sentence, or is that just a literary legend? You gotta love the German language. Not only do they have Heinrich von Kleist, who wrote sentences guaranteed to strangle the best of them, they also have Friedrich Duerenmatt, whose "Der Auftrag" is a 24-chapter book containing 24 sentences. One per chapter. And some of the chapters are 15 pages long. After two of those things my brain was sufficient mush to last me a week... I learned patience waiting for the verb, though. :) Speaking of the tension-filling music in "La Femme Nikita", I was reminded of the tense scenes in "Green Card", where there was something from Enya's "Watermark" in the background. (Don't ask me the title of the song, I never got the songs written down on the dun someone gave to me.) Ecto as a prescription drug? Of course it would have to be one that cured death. :) Mitch, your essay on mid-listers was especially interesting because just an hour ago I had a discussion with a 9th-grader I'm tutoring about music. She noticed my Walkman in my bag, and asked me what radio station I listened to- when I replied WESU and NPR and nothing else, she was aghast at the notion of not listening to Top-40 music. I told her that when I looked at the list of this year's Grammy winners I'd only heard the songs in the "Alternative" categories, and her jaw dropped on the floor. But it's true! She asked me, "Then what do you listen to?" I put my headphones on her and hit play- she got a ten second dose of "Ode" and said, "Oh, I get it. That weird relaxing stuff. What kind of music is it?" Imagine trying to explain the concept of Happy to someone who has never heard of the artists Happy has been compared to, and who can't fathom not worshipping Mariah Carey. She was amazingly open-minded about it, though- I enlightened her as to the $$$$$ aspects of modern popular music, and the fact that there is a volume of stuff out there, *good* stuff, artistic stuff, that dwarfs the volume of stuff that actually gets airplay. And she said, "I guess it is kinda sad that someone who's only standing up there lip-synching is more popular than somebody who is writing and singing and playing and producing and all that. It isn't really fair, is it?" Bingo. Hope for the new generation. She was, however, able to prove to me that she used to watch MTV when it first started, which would mean she was five. And she agreed it isn't as good as it was then. But when I used Milli Vanilli as an example of why I don't do Top-40, she shook her head and sighed, "You really are old, aren't you?" Thanks. :P Anyway...I'm off to sunny Florida (=home) for the next ten days, where I may or may not have net access, depending on whether or not I can get my mother's Internet account to work with her LAME-O comm program. If not, I'll see a bunch of you in Philly and/or Albany, I'm counting down the days! +----------------------------------------------+ | Meredith A. Tarr | | +++ | | "Oh let me fly, give me something to show | | for my miserable life..." -Kate Bush | | +++ | | mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu | +----------------------------------------------+ ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 5 Mar 92 18:34:37 -0500 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: Re: catching up Alan confuses me: > Woj said: > i dunno -- like many french movies of the type, the accent is > on style over substance, but what style! (mm, the masterpiece of the > genre is still without the slightest doubt "Diva". if you haven't > seen it, rent it right away and rue the lack of a big screen and > surround-sound...) now, i could *swear* that I said that (%#%$! there, see?!) i have photos of woj and i together -- the rumours that we are one and the same will have to deal with that! (and never mind that one of us was drawn in in crayon... ;) i think the similarities in our writing style are largely due to the similar amounts of sleep we fail to get... or maybe it's the amount of time spent in new jersey... but not me baby i'm too precious so ffffffffffootah off! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "go go go said the bird" -- old possum ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 18 Feb 92 15:34:00 GMT From: S.A..Ezust@p38.f1.n721.z5.fidonet.org (S.A. Ezust) Subject: how to get onto the net from New Jersey Date: Tue Feb 18 15:34:54 1992 GMT+2 Ok I am frantically trying to catch up on digests. It's about 400k worth of stuff that's been posted since the beginning of the month, so I am up to digest 153 now. Only 10 digests to go (although more will arrive before I finish them, I'm sure). First of all, regarding Suzanne's problem: You don't need a public access UNIX machine to get onto ecto. I am a walking, talking example. Any normal FIDO-BBS is internet-addressible. Posting is another matter, as it depends on the liberal-ness of the sysop, but there are ways of sending mail out from fido BBSs to people on the internet as well, sysop permitting. Maybe it will cost money, but maybe it'll be free. If there is a fido-bbs in her area, she can subscribe to ecto no problem. I am quite sure that there is one, since they're everywhere. Hell, if I can get online in deepest darkest Africa she sure as hell can do it in New Jersey!!!! Oh yeah - here is how to translate e-mail addresses. If Joe Bloggs logs into a fido BBS in north america which has a node number like 1:105/42, his e-mail address is joe.bloggs@f42.n105.z1.fidonet.org. Someone else will have to look up all the FIDO BBSs in her area; I have no immediate access to a nodelist file of zone 1 (north america). > Doug sez: > > [That's Vickie name, by the way!] One problem with duping tapes is mailing > them all over the world. Crop of cassettes comes in. Crop of cassettes is > dubbed. Crop of cassettes of mailed out over the world. Well, instead you > could send money to the person dubbing the tapes (i.e., me), which would pay > for a number of cassettes. As long as money remains in your account, you > just drop a note to me asking for a copy of whatever, the Happy Whatever > Projects, SiG, the Philadelphia show. Your account could be topped off any > time. A copy would be made, mailed, and the cost deducted from your account. > That would also allow me to buy cassettes by the box, making things a little > cheaper for you. Different quality cassettes could be available. Thanks for volunteering!! After this first batch (which vickie volunteered to provide for me) I'll open an account with you. > Jessica wrote: > so, if i'm an ectomorph and vickies an endomorph, then who is the > mesomorph? > > If this is being restricted to the female Ectophiles, I doubt we have > one, unless Linda Hamilton is lurking, unbeknownst to me. (Hey, I just > realized I'm an ectomorph, too! Too hip!) As for men, real men, who > are always mesomorphs, don't use computers. :) Sorry - I don't get it... Do you mean Linda Hamilton, as in the mother of John Connor, from "Terminator" or what? Does she listen to Happy Rhodes? > dbx says: > > Greg posted a list of wonderful pop memories, but Vishal asked: > > What group is this ? > > God, I'm feeling old again. I'm going to leave the answer as an exercise to > the reader. However, on rec.music.misc, someone asked one of those "What > song was this?" questions for "Bus Stop" by the Hollies. Of roughly eight > answers, only one got both the song and group correctly. Gee, I could > probably still write the lyrics down and got 90% of them right! Age creeps > up on one. Hey, I'm only 22 years old and I remember them. Granted, I was not even a teenie-bopper when I was into then, but I remember the records vividly, and I used to watch their sit-com all the time! > From: N_HAYS@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au > Claudia further on the subject of ecto-parties > > >Hey, maybe even some of the photos (nearly everybody carried a camera) > >will come out good! > > If they do, can someone PLEASE scan 'em in and add them to the ecto archives? > Then perhaps I can print them out, stick them up around my room, mix up some > fuzzy blue drinks, put my HGP, SiG, and Happy tapes on and have a little > ecto-party of my own down here. :-) Next time I'm in Boston I'll submit my pictures to a scanning, if someone has the equipment (although by then I may be able to figure out how to use my dad's hand-scanner which up to now has been collecting dust on his desk). > Date: Wed, 05 Feb 92 23:30:49 EST > From: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu > > I finally made my first HGP-related purchase...Wim Mertern's "No Testament" > CD single (I've been unlucky in trying to find _Maximizing the Audience_). > > I fail to understand why Tower insists on placing Mertens in the rock > section. He's in with the rock indie/imports in the DC Tower, along > with bands like LPD, Coil, Area, DCD, and the entire range of possibilities. > I would imagine he's in the only Belgian minimalist composer in the section. > ;-) I think that part of it is because he's distributed by a record company which is somehow affiliated with Play It Again Sam Records, the same people who give you LPDs, Trisomie-21 and a whole bunch of other groups in that category. He is obscure enough so I wouldn't be surprised if nobody in that store has ever listened to them. > It's wonderful! The first two tracks are really great. The 3rd and longest > leaves me a bit cold, but the final two tracks (both short...1:21 and 0:22) > are neat/fun. If you like Justin's selection on HGP, I would recommend > this "single." If you like certain things by Wim Mertens, you will not necessarily like everything he's done. Some of his stuff is _REALLY_ minimal, and make his _Maximizing The Audience_ album seem quite complex and elaborate in comparison. MTA is my favorite album by his, by the way... _WHISPER ME_ is one of the most hypnotic pieces of music I have in my collection. I often listen to it as I am drifting off to sleep, or just sitting in a comfortable chair in complete darkness. When the piano comes in near the 2/3 mark of the song, each hammer on a string causes me to do a mental jump! My heart almost seems to pound in conjunction with the hammer. What an amazing piece. I have a question though: I was about 99% sure that Wim Mertens is a MAN, but in the credits for Whisper Me, Wim Mertens is listed as the lead vocalist in that song. Could it be a man? Did he get his balls chopped off at a very tender age or something? > Oh. I had a question about that list of tunes by the Monkeez...one of > the songs was "Door Into Summer," which was also the name of a wild book > by R.A.H. I don't suppose the song had anything to do with that book, did > it? I was going to ask that too! Anyone know for sure? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ezust@p38.f1.n721.z5.fidonet.org University of Zimbabwe, Harare Engineering CAL Project --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail address will no longer be valid after March 31st, 1992. After that please use: sae@cmpsci.suffolk.edu -- INTERNET: S.A..Ezust@p38.f1.n721.z5.fidonet.org ======================================================================== From: mas@cs.bu.edu (Mark Semich) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 92 22:47:30 -0500 Subject: Alison Moyet in Boston MA... Are any Boston area ectophiles planning on going to the Alison Moyet show this Saturday at the Paradise? I've heard that it's just Alison and a guitar, so it should be fairly interesting... Happy content: I haven't had any Happy Rhodes dreams... they take my dreams away and replace them with their own... =========================================================================== At this moment the phantoms enter their voracious period. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- mark a. semich mas@cs.bu.edu =========================================================================== ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 6 Mar 92 01:19:39 EST From: justin@crim.ca (Justin Bur) Subject: Re: how to get onto the net from New Jersey Alan wonders about Wim Mertens and the voice on the track "Whisper me" from Maximizing the Audience... yes, Wim Mertens is a man, and there are three female vocalists on the Maximizing album, and the credits are somewhat fuzzy on the 1988 CD release from Crepuscule (though the rental copy at Le Rayon Laser in Montreal is an earlier CD licensed by some obscure German company, with liner notes of Deep Musicological Significance (and complete incomprehensibility - written in English by a German using German sentence structure, sort of!) and who knows what botch-up in the credits). I will try to remember to check the original 1984 Crepuscule LP which should have things credited properly. btw, Crepuscule is not distributed by Play it Again Sam, to the best of my knowledge (but rather by PolyGram in Benelux). The connection between the two is that they're both Belgian labels with all sorts of weird and wonderful stuff and they're probably always imported into North America by the same importers. am delerious, going sleep! justin ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 6 Mar 92 10:56:41 MET From: Albert Philipsen Subject: Sabotage Hi! I noticed that nobody had posted a transcription of the lyrics to _Love's Sabotage_, the last Bartlett/Rhodes demo on the wonderful Ecto SiG tape, so I decided to give it a try. The first results didn't look very promising, which made me put aside the project for some weeks. It took many listenings and some help from my family, before I had an acceptable transcription. I found the first line of the chorus particularly hard to understand; I'm still not quite sure about it. I've been extending my music collection with a lot of new artists (like Blackgirls, Cocteau Twins, Kirsty MacColl, Laurie Freelove, Loreena McKennitt, Mouth Music, Rainbirds, Tori Amos, ...) since I started reading ecto. Thanks for all the wonderful suggestions. I'm looking forward to meeting some of you at the European Ectophile party. Here is the transcription of _Love's Sabotage_ I finally came up with. Any corrections are welcome. Take it easy, Albert Philipsen Love's Sabotage --------------- (Music - Kevin Bartlett, lyrics & vocal melody - Happy Rhodes) Love can be a scary thing Nothing's ever safe There's no guarantees Oh when no party plays [I learned to move with it now that we die] (love's sabotage) All the sabotage comes from the mind (love's) Who'd ever take a [step] Destroy what's inside We're so quick to forget Oh it can be a thrilling ride [I learned to move with it now that we die] (love's sabotage) All the sabotage comes from the mind (love's) [There are] so many people oh oh oh oh I want to protect Doesn't anybody wake up Oh yes you get what you expect [I learned to move with it now that we die] (love's sabotage) All the sabotage comes from the mind (love's sabotage) [I learned to move with it now that we die] (love's sabotage) All the sabotage comes from the mind (love's) From the mind We are so very quick to blame Our humanistic ways Look at your own life Don't judge the muck away [I learned to move with it now that we die] (love's sabotage) All the sabotage comes from the mind (love's) Why do we choose to hurt The ones we adore Doesn't anybody know how it feels Just to let your spirit soar [I learned to move with it now that we die] (love's sabotage) All the sabotage comes from the mind (love's sabotage) [I learned to move with it now that we die] (love's sabotage) All the sabotage comes from the mind (love's sabotage) ---This is a legend--- [uncertain] (backing vocals) ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 6 Mar 92 09:08:27 MST From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Fluff (tm) Greetings, Steve V writes: First I discover you're a Gene Wolfe fan, and now a Firesign Theatre fan? (Not to mention a Kate fan and a Happy fan.) Is this some strange case of "Separated at Birth?" Given your birthday, I doubt it, unless something really strange happened in the cosmos. Probably more a case of "Great Minds Think Alike". Actually, should these types of tastes be the norm for the world? :) :) Mitch, as always, forces me to take too much time from work to read through his posts. :) At least, they're (usually) worth it. Kudos on your mid-list essay, though I don't think Happy's reached mid-list status yet, (and we can always hope she does even better than that!) I would like to add one point, though. It seems to me that the emphasis on superstar vs mid-listers runs in cycles. Just in my lifetime, I've seen musical mid-listers achieve prominence in the mid-to-late Sixties. The mid-Seventies were a heydey of the megastar. The late Seventies and early Eighties saw the revenge of the mid-listers, and today megastars take the stage again. Round and round it goes. Power to the Midlist! :-) Why the smiley? Even with its subtle irony, this should be a serious rallying cry! Alan (Welcome back to real-time! :) ) asks: Sorry - I don't get it... Do you mean Linda Hamilton, as in the mother of John Connor, from "Terminator" or what? Does she listen to Happy Rhodes? [Is it worth explaining?] Actually I know no female mesomorphs personally, and Linda Hamilton (yes, the actress in T2) is the closest that I know of that most people would know. No one piped up, so I guess no female mesomorphic Ectophiles exist (or want to admit it). (Actually, I wonder if any male mesomorphic Ectophiles exist). By the way, if anyone curious, I'm still waiting for Vickie's interview tape. Eleven days (give or take two time zones)!! Doug Bu[remainder of signature eaten by the Michelangelo virus] ======================================================================== From: Jeanne B Schreiter Subject: A little poem Date: Fri, 6 Mar 92 11:29:43 CST A little poem 3-michangelo-92 When wondering things become attachment strings the wanders of the world are found. -jb schreiter spur of the moment kind-o thing ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 7 Mar 92 02:04:00 +0200 From: Alan_Ezust@p38.f1.n721.z5.fidonet.org Subject: old post The below message was going to be posted on the 21st of february but due to e-mail problems it's been sitting on my hard disk until now. Date: February 21, 1992 ok now I am up to digest #165, but I found out that the main incoming e-mail feed has been down since last Friday, so "I'm still waiting" for this massive collection of messages to finally propagate to me here. I just found out that my ex-girlfriend on the west coast of Canada received my HAPPY tape, which I sent from Boston last month, but for some odd reason I must have gone OOPS with my stereo settings; one side was supposed to have Warpaint and the other had a mixture of stuff from her 1st4. Only the 1st4 mix side was recorded, so the Warpaint side was blank. It was incredible the kind of anxiety I experienced knowing that only part of my "message" got through to her... I feel like I should mail her the Warpaint side on another tape, but two tapes I mailed to her from Zimbabwe got lost already. How frustrating!!!!! I won't be able to send her a tape until I get back to North America (in July)... I guess she's the one who is really missing out, but she doesn't know what she's missing, so I am doing the suffering for both of us... > Greg sez: > everyone was bopping to the music and before > i knew it i had bought: > > *Peter Murphy -- Deep (i am *very* wary of Bauhaus and all of it's > offspring, but i heard this at jessica's apt. and was impressed...) What's so bad about Bauhaus? I have friends who are so wary of Peter Murphy's solo work because Bauhaus was so good. But something which is definitely ecto-material is another Peter Murphy spinoff. It is called DALIS CAR : THE WAKING HOUR (on Virgin records, Beggars Banquet). The entire record is in the same mood as Happy Rhodes' _WRONG CENTURY_ except that Peter Murphy sings instead of a woman. Highly recmomended, especially if you like PM's voice... > From: vishal@ra.csc.ti.com (Vishal Markandey) > Greg, if you like Peter Murphy's "Deep", you should also check out > his "Love Hysteria". It is his best solo effort, IMHO!! Personally I thought that Love Hysteria pales in comparison to "Should the World Fail To Fall Apart" which has Pere Ubu playing some of the instruments as well as writing some of the lyrics. But I did like LH better than Deep. > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 92 11:10:34 PST > From: barry@gnu.ai.mit.edu > > Hmm, boy ecto's been strangely quiet Hmmm yourself. Are you sure you are still subscribed to the list? :-) > From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu > a bit o'fluff/trivia...there is a bitnet node at rhodes college in memphis > called rhodes.bitnet - be amusing if happy were to get an account there: > > or maybe > > that'll confuse a net.person or three... :) You think that's bad - there's someone named blinkey@cs.mcgill.ca but before the big computer-transfer, his primary computer was bart.cs.mcgill.ca or else homer.cs.mcgill.ca. Unfortunately, bart died last year, so he got moved onto binkley.cs.mcgill.ca. So now he's blinkey@binkley. Try typing that fast! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- University of Zimbabwe, Harare Engineering CAL Project ======================================================================== Date: 6 March 1992 13:16:09 CST From: Subject: Gebratene Gruene Gedanken (More alliterative, and therefore arguably more euphonious, than "Gebratene Blaue Gedanken," and less removed from traditional ecto aphorisms than "Gebratene Gruene Tomaten.") I talked to Vickie yesterday evening, and she asked me to tell you all that _Buzz_ (I think it's called), a music magazine which circulates in the Northeast, has a piece about Happy in its current issue. The current issue of either _Rolling Stone_ or _Spin_ gave a favorable review to Tori Amos' new album (at least I think it was Tori Amos). I didn't read the record reviews in yesterday's _Chicago Tribune_ carefully, but I seem to recall at least one recording of interest to us being reviewed. Not so long ago, the idea came to me for another ecto thought experiment: if there were to be a tribute album to Happy, along the lines of the Elton John tribute album which includes Kate's cover of "Rocket Man," what famous artists would perform what songs? The only idea I've come up with myself is that "Ecto" could be done by Barry White (whose own songs tend to include spoken passages whose total proportion approaches, or even exceeds, the sung ones). What other ideas has anybody got? In response to Meredith's query about the Class-X sentence in _Last Exit to Brooklyn_: I'd have to get back to you about the _exact_ length, but as I recall, it was at least 4-5 pages long in the edition I looked at. Should you want to check it independently, it was at the end of a chapter somewhere in the middle of the book, and deals--at length--with the events in the bar leading up to the gang rape of Tralala, the rape itself, and its aftermath. Having never read _Finnegan's Wake_, I can't really respond to that part. My profoundest reaction to Joyce, for what it's worth, is seeing the film adaptation of _Ulysses_, and finding Molly Bloom's soliloquy surprisingly aseptic, after anticipating pure unadulterated raunch (which it may yet have been, by the standards of Joyce's time and place). Doug characterizes my posts as "(usually) worth it," a reference to the amount of time it often takes to get through them. I won't bother to probe about which posts were the exceptions to the rule, but the very existence of such exceptions merely proves what we all know: nobody's perfect (usually). :-) Besides, with Vickie in exile for the duration, _somebody_ really has to keep the tradition alive of long and somewhat amorphous postings :-). Speaking whereof: Should anyone have serious worries that their emergen- cy messages for Vickie will, in fact, explode Chip's account, feel free to funnel them through me; the sysadmins here are apparently more sanguine about such things than I gather they are at his installation. Send emergency mess- ages for her, nonemergency flames for me, and related matter to U38373@uicvm (bitnet) or U38373@uicvm.uic.edu (internet). _In re_ Doug's observations (in reply to Alan's) about female and male mesomorphs _vel non_ on ecto and elsewhere: If there are, in fact, no meso- morphs of either sex on ecto, that in itself is an interesting sociological question. Years ago, a body of long-since-discredited criminological theory posited a correlation between somatype (endo/meso/ecto) and behavioral ten- dencies in general, and criminal tendencies in particular. (As it happened, the mesomorphs were posited to be the crime-prone ones.) All this suggests three research issues in the immediate case: first, what kind of somatype do we theorize reads ecto; second, what is the empirical distribution, as compared to the theoretical one, of somatypes among ecto readers (these can, in turn, be cross-classified by sex); third, if the distribution of somatypes among ecto readers is not random, or if it fails to fit whatever other theor- etical distribution had not been hypothesized, how come--particularly if one or more somatypes is totally absent. In the extreme case, we may at least get some insight into why ecto is the friendly, crime-free mailing list :-). With respect to the other part of Doug's comment, about the alleged lack of female mesomorphs in his social network, I'd be glad to supply him, or indeed anyone else on ecto, with the address for the Amazons International mailing list, an intermittent electronic newsletter for female mesomorphs and the men who love them :-). Getting off the bus this morning, I apparently landed on the cusp between the curb cut and the main part of the curb, pitched sideways, landed horizont- ally on my left side, and appear to have stretched some soft tissue in my right ankle. Nothing appears to be seriously pulverized, but even as I sit and write this it seems to be getting sorer and stiffer. I don't expect to experience any significant disablement, so I am disinclined to blow off the rest of the afternoon in the doctor's waiting room; but if I wake up in the morning with a case of transient elephantiasis below the right knee, we all know why. Happy Michelangelo Day--hopefully without Michelangelo. Happy International Women's Day--two days early (by salutary contrast with all the things I've been commemorating late these days :-) ). Mitch Pravatiner _______________________ "If God had meant for man to fly, he wouldn't have given us the railroads." --Michael Flanders (Somehow, the sight of Meredith's new .sig gave me the irresistible impulse to quote that. Trivial injuries, it would appear, are capable of render- ing me snide :-). ) ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 6 Mar 92 15:26:56 -0800 From: Michael G Peskura Subject: Yes, yes Happy International Women's Day to everyone from this aging philogynist! Now, about that address for the Amazons International list....? :) :) :) Cheers, Mp ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is a README file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me (or leave in the incoming directory, just let me know) things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@athos.rutgers.edu)