Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1136 ecto, Number 1136 Sunday, 12 June 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: Alison Moyet concert Re: The late-night listings Re: Depthcharge 2.5.4 Re: Salmonberries Toni Childs Re: ecto #1129 Re: Eurythmics live (was Re: The late-night listings) UNSUBSCRIBE We Might Be... Stuart is famous! Re: Alison Moyet concert Re: Odd pairings of a different sort me and a gun Then again... Re: Eurythmics live (was Re: The late-night listings) Re: Thought Revoking Re: Odd pairings of a different sort Re: Toni Childs RE: Re: Alison Moyet concert Re: Stuart is famous! Field of Vision and Go Van Gogh Just a comment... Alison Moyet concert, Philly Inquirer Michelle Shocked concert in Philly Inquirer Re: Eurythmics live (was Re: The late-night listings) New stuff Shooting off my mouth again... Today's your birthday friend.... Julianne Regan ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 13:29:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Stuart Myerburg Subject: Re: Alison Moyet concert > > Ne Me Quitte Pas (dedicated to a friend who had died of AIDS) > > This song is on an obscure Marianne Faithfull album I have. Didn't know > anyone else ever recorded it (outside of France). I don't think Alison Moyet ever recorded it. I think she was just performing it in concert, although I could be wrong. I know that Sting also sings it in concert on occasion. It has never shown up on any of his recordings except as a live B-side. Stuart .Sigless Today... ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 23:49:21 +1000 From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: The late-night listings John said: > Of course, this still doesn't answer Philip's question about the > Eurythmics CD... Sorry about that Philip. :) Since no-one seems to have answered it yet, I'll help out by advising Philip to avoid the Eurythmics Live CD at all costs, unless it's *really* cheap. The recording quality is sub-standard, as are the loose live arrangements of their best songs. "Sexcrime" live is embarrasing. Having said that, the last time I really liked something by Eurythmics was "Touch", so draw your own conclusions. Although "Savage" wasn't bad. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "All told, Under The Pink is small but likeably formed; ideal for those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 23:19:55 +1000 From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Depthcharge 2.5.4 Ecto gets a bug report: > There appears to be a bug in your DepthCharge software version 2.5.4 in the > "save accross restart" feature. It does not look like you handle cases where > control calls are imbedded in the screen resource (not surprising since this > imbedding feature was present but not used in the past). Y'know, just the other day I had exactly the same problem. My control characters got imbedded in my screen resource, causing me to re-enter the bootleg debate over on the rdt list. Anyone interested in bugfixing me can contact me at the above address. I also need someone to beta-test me. - Anthony V27.7 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "All told, Under The Pink is small but likeably formed; ideal for those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 23:40:25 +1000 From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Salmonberries Neal goes to the movies: > Last night was an interesting night for me. After previously answering a > bunch of inane questions and admitting to seeing a number of mediocre films, > I was given a pass to a special event screening of a mystery movie that is > purported to be one of the top movies of the summer. [...] > Well, it will be one of the top movies of the summer, sir. > > So it could be the Flintstones? > > It's a movie that's not currently out. > > So two weeks ago it could have been the Flintstones? Actually, my guess on top movie for the summer is the film I saw today - "Speed". It's a thriller. A damn good thriller. In fact, it's not only the best thriller of the last ten years, the best action film of the past ten years, and the first film of either genre not to patronise its audience in about the last ten years, it's also directed by my favorite cinematographer, Jan De Bont - his first film as director. The man CAN direct, extremely well, and James Cameron had better lift his game. "Speed" is like a two hour version of the adrenaline rush that was the truck/bike chase in "Terminator 2" but, with more crises per minute than even "The Abyss", and a great sense of self-depreciating humour. It also has Dennis Hopper, and the soon-to-be star Sandra Bullock. If you enjoy action films of any sort, see this one. Twice. :) Now, meanwhile, back to the subject: > The movie I saw was Salmonberries, kd lange's acting debut. It's copyright > 1991, so who knows where it's been sitting. It's by Percy Adlon, director "Salmonberries" came out here in 1992, and won my award for that year for Most Excruciatingly Dull And Boring Piece Of Celluloid Misguidance. Maybe they've been spending the time re-editing it for the US. I doubt it'd help. :) > Alaska, and some very powerful, emotional scenes. The soundtrack bares a > slight resemblance to Bagdad Cafe's, in that there is one beautiful, haunting > song used repeatedly, and nothing else I would really want to buy. In this > case its lang's "Barefoot", a song that repeatedly shows more emotion than And that was the most annoying thing about the film for me. By the 400th time it played the song was starting to have the same effect as Beethoven did on Alex in "A Clockwork Orange". :-) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "All told, Under The Pink is small but likeably formed; ideal for those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 11:11:45 PDT From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) Subject: Toni Childs Hi, Yesterday I went back to Amoeba (after having decided that having over 20 CDs that I haven't listened to was outrageous and that I wouldn't go to a record store for at least a month) and found a used copy of the latest Toni Childs CD (and the Milla CD that you have all been talking about, which I haven't had the chance to listen to yet). WOW! I have only listened to it once, with the exception of the first track 'Womb' which I had heard in Tower Records in Cambridge two weeks ago and had on a repeat loop last night and this morning and am amazed. This CD is truly great. The Real World recording environment has really influenced the overall sound, as well as writing songs with David Rhodes. And her voice. Truly haunting. I strongly recommend this CD! Angelos PS. Does anyone know why she does NOT thank PG directly in the credits, but only his record companies for letting him appear? I found this quite strange. ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 04:09:22 +0100 From: "Gray Abbott @ Universal Dynamics" Subject: Re: ecto #1129 > Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 20:24:57 -0400 (EDT) > From: Robert Lovejoy > Subject: A few things... > > Hi Folks, > Ilka, Gentle Giant were doing that drumsticks-on-the-guitar item > back in the seventies! They really were an amazing band; they did a > lot of instrument tradeoffs. At one point all five of them, including > the drummer, would be playing acoustic guitars! Nice to see Melissa's > band continuing the drumsticks segment! Definitely a great band. I saw them live once, and it was the most impressive concert I've ever attended. When _Equipoise_ came out, I mentioned in this list that I heard some similarities to Gentle Giant, but no one picked up on it... Gray ======================================================================== From: Philip Sainty Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 10:11:13 +1200 Subject: Re: Eurythmics live (was Re: The late-night listings) Anthony Horans: > Since no-one seems to have answered it yet, I'll help out by advising Philip > to avoid the Eurythmics Live CD at all costs, unless it's *really* cheap. The > recording quality is sub-standard, as are the loose live arrangements of > their best songs. "Sexcrime" live is embarrasing. Having said that, the last > time I really liked something by Eurythmics was "Touch", so draw your own > conclusions. Although "Savage" wasn't bad. The few responses I got were all in favour of leaving it alone, but yours in the only first-hand experience of it I've heard so far! Thanks for the confirmation! I shall have no difficulty whatsoever selecting an ecto-recommendation to take its place for the next time I buy a CD :) Philip (who gets frustrated enough by the number of _good_ Cds he is unable to buy, without making things any worse by spending money on bad ones... Yay for ecto! :) _ _ ___ _ _ _ (_ / | / \ |_) |_| | | (_ Philip Sainty (_ \_ | \_/ | | | | |_ (_ psainty@comp.vuw.ac.nz -------------------------------------------------------------- "This is where I want to be, this is what I need." --Kate Bush ======================================================================== From: Trish Rucker Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 17:31:59 -0400 (EDT) UNSUBSCRIBE ecto trish_r@mind.ORG -- mind.org 404/659-5720 404/521-0445 Public Access Unix in Atlanta ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 20:45:28 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: We Might Be... Giants...no, wait... ..Going.. ...to New York... ...to see Mary Margaret O'Hara... ...from Chicago... Chris and Charley are all fired up about going, they're out scraping up money owed to them and looking for someone who has a credit card (so we can rent a car...none of us anti-civilization types :-) have one) so if it happens, we'll be on the highway by midnight, driving about 15 hours across America so we can see Mary Margaret O'Hara one night in concert. If we'd known about this earlier, we could have tried for both nights. Now, really, it might not happen. The credit card is the biggest problem, 'cos Big Timey Hoity Toity Car Rental Car Companies think people without credit cards are scum of the earth, and won't give us a car. *But* it's the thought that counts, right? And if 3 crazy MMO fans are *willing* to drive halfway across the continent to see her, it would be great if those *closer* to New York at least think about going to see her. I suppose it doesn't help if you've never heard, or hear of Mary Margaret, but it *WILL* be a special occasion. I swear it. MMO performs so rarely, that to see her is a rare, wonderful treat. Our (Charley, Chris and I) expectations are extremely high because we had a taste of Mary Margaret live when we went to Toronto in December for the Choral "Goddess" Christmas concert. Her voice is in such great shape, so wonderful a voice it is, and her unusual vocal style and delivery is mesmerising and challenging. MMO is to pay attention to, an artist to listen and work to understand. Oh, along those lines, anyway. I'm too excited and on edge (will we? won't we?) to write coherently. Go, just GO, and maybe we'll see you there :) From the New Yorker: On June 10-11, singer-songwriter Mary Margaret O'Hara makes a couple of special appearances (her first in New York in several years), blending her enchanting folk-pop lyricism with the kindred sensibilities of Susan McKeown and The Chanting House and Miracle Legion's Mark Mulcahy. Dining. At the Fez, 380 Lafayette Street, New York City, (212) 533-7000 Vickie ======================================================================== From: Jeremy Corry Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 22:19:02 -0500 Subject: Stuart is famous! I thought I'd let everyone know that Stuart Myerburg, an esteemed ectophile, is on his way to fame (if only that could get him a job). If you have a chance look at the July issue of Details Magazine, you will see that there is an article towards the beginning on Dreams of Kurt Cobain. Stuart's dream is the first one. If you can't get your paws on a copy of the magazine, and are dying to know more about Stuart's many dreams of the stars, e-mail me! Yes, he dreams about Happy on occasion too. ____________________________________________________________________________ Jeremy J. Corry | My opinions are my own, but I probably jcorry@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu | got them from someone else. __ http://www.cc.emory.edu/HOMEPAGES/jeremy.html \/ ____________________________________________________________________________ ======================================================================== From: jzitt@ssnet.com (Joseph Zitt) Subject: Re: Alison Moyet concert Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 22:23:02 -0400 (EDT) > > > Ne Me Quitte Pas (dedicated to a friend who had died of AIDS) > > This song is on an obscure Marianne Faithfull album I have. Didn't know > anyone else ever recorded it (outside of France). The song has been widely recorded with its English lyric, "If You Go Away". I heard a version just the other day (I think it was on a tape I had recently gotten, but I forget what). I've also heard it on elevators. ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 22:06:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rod L. Bourland" Subject: Re: Odd pairings of a different sort Amusing. Let me try...... Return to the Valley of the Dolls with Thelma and Louise Can't Stop the Music with The Last Waltz Revvie We're Waking Up, Yes, its Good; We're waking up, I knew we would; There's a growing force of people who care, In all the years of struggle it seems we're making way, I have never been afraid to change the circumstances of the world". - Happy Rhodes, "waking up" On Thu, 9 Jun 1994 U15289@uicvm.bitnet wrote: > If one wanted to do this mental exercise with movies, some that come to mind > are: > > _The Bicycle Thief_ and _Pee-Wee's Big Adventure_ > _Dance With A Stranger_ (or _Let Him Have It_) and _Good Day For A Hanging_ > _Jurassic Park_ and _Forever Amber_ > _Tom Thumb_ and _Even Cowgirls Get The Blues_ > > Mitch > ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 01:12:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: me and a gun Hi! (No NOT the Tori song, the ensuing flame war about which is the reason I just unsubbed from rdt...) Here's my gun thing. My dad used to hunt a lot. (This was Maine, remember. :) My family used to have three kids: two boys and a girl. Then we had one boy and one girl. My dad doesn't hunt any more. (Then I came along and we had one boy and two girls, but that's another story.) I hate guns. I wish I could have known my brother. I hear he was a great kid. Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 11 Jun 94 3:04:35 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Then again... ...it looks like we're not going after all. If any Ectophiles do go, please tape it if possible, and write about it. Please. The gun stories are so sad...Janet, Meredith, I'm so sorry... Btw, Wayne, thank you for the article about October Project. I definitely enjoyed it. I love the album. Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 02:49:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rod L. Bourland" Subject: Re: Eurythmics live (was Re: The late-night listings) When making your selection that you said you would make to replace the purchase of the live Eurythmic cd, I suggest that you take up someone (I forgot who!) on their advice to look out for Emily Bezar (pronounced BEE-cszar). I did and was pleasantly surprised. If someone has an on-line fax I would be more than happy to fax a review of this cd from "Stereophile" magazine. Then that person could put the review here on the ecto list. The review gives a much better evaluation and description of Emily Bezar's CD than I could. If you are interested in me sending a copy via snail mail, fax machine, whatever, I will if you just e-mail me. I will also give you information on ordering the cd if your local store doesn't have it. (It's $13 which includes shipping and handling). The name of the release is "Grandmother's Tea Leaves". She autographed my copy of the cd and included a rather nice note. Email me for any info you need. I may do a complete review of the cd if no one can send it. I will fax anywhere in the world. Revvie We're Waking Up, Yes, its Good; We're waking up, I knew we would; There's a growing force of people who care, In all the years of struggle it seems we're making way, I have never been afraid to change the circumstances of the world". - Happy Rhodes, "waking up" ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 11 Jun 94 13:08:16 MET DST From: Albert Philipsen Subject: Re: Thought Revoking Neal Copperman writes: >Doctors are blaming a rare electrical imbalance in the brain for the bizarre >death of a chess player whose head literally exploded in the middle of a >championship game! I play chess. Quite good, actually. >(As a public service, WWN added a sidebar titled HOW TO TELL IF YOUR >HEAD'S ABOUT TO BLOW UP:) > >Although HCE is very rare, it can kill. Dr. Martinenko says knowing >you have the condition can greatly improve your odds of surviving it. A "yes" >answer to any three of the following seven questions could mean that you >have HCE: > >1. Does your head sometimes ache when you think too hard? (Head pain can >indicate overloaded brain circuits.) Yes. >2. Do you ever hear a faint ringing or humming sound in your ears? >(It could be the sound of electricity in the skull cavity.) Yes. >3. Do you sometimes find yourself unable to get a thought out of >your head? Yes. >4. Do you spend more than five hours a day reading, balancing your >checkbook, or other thoughtful activity? (A common symptom of HCE is >a tendency to over-use the brain.) Yes. >5. When you get angry or frustrated do you feel pressure in your >temples? >(Friends of people who died of HCE say the victims often complained >of head pressure in times of strong emotion.) It sometimes feels like there's a little earthquake going on in my head. Will that do? >6. Do you ever overeat on ice cream, doughnuts and other sweets? (A >craving for sugar is typical of people with too much electrical pressure in >the cranium.) Yes. >7. Do you tend to analyze yourself too much? (HCE sufferers are >often introspective, "over-thinking" their lives.) Yes. Sometimes, when listening to music through headphones, I could swear I'm hearing sparks coming out of my ears. I must have a very strong skull. :-) Albert, who likes fireworks ======================================================================== From: jzitt@ssnet.com (Joseph Zitt) Subject: Re: Odd pairings of a different sort Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 10:34:17 -0400 (EDT) > > Amusing. Let me try...... > > Return to the Valley of the Dolls with Thelma and Louise > Can't Stop the Music with The Last Waltz How about The Blue Lagoon with Lord of the Flies Twins with One Sings, The Other Doesn't Like Water for Chocolate with Guess Who's Coming to Dinner? (This is starting to sound like a New Yorker competition.) ======================================================================== From: FreeForm@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Jun 94 10:46:59 EDT Subject: Re: Toni Childs Jeff Hanson wrote: >>>While I'm at it, somebody mentioned the new Toni Childs album a while back and was wondering why no one had mentioned it. I had just bought it at the time and not had a chance to give it a good listen so I didn't respond until now. I love it. For me I think its the most powerful album of the year (so far). I like it better than her first aqlbum Union. It reminds me for some reason of Jane Sibberry's When I Was a Boy (my favorite album of last year). It's full of strange noises, layered vocals, and interesting arrangements. Less African-rhythm influenced than Union. Now I have to check her 2nd album out (House of HOpe?) which I somehow managed to overlook when it came out.<<< Jeff, I'm glad you like Toni's new album! I am enjoying it a lot also. I hope more of the Ectofolk decide to give it a listen. And by all means get that "House of Hope" CD!! That one is really good as well. charles ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 19:05:55 +0200 From: Marion Kippers Subject: RE: Re: Alison Moyet concert >> >> > Ne Me Quitte Pas (dedicated to a friend who had died of AIDS) >> >> This song is on an obscure Marianne Faithfull album I have. Didn't know >> anyone else ever recorded it (outside of France). > >The song has been widely recorded with its English lyric, "If You Go >Away". I heard a version just the other day (I think it was on a tape >I had recently gotten, but I forget what). > >I've also heard it on elevators. Hi, "If you go away" has been recorded by amongst others Terry Jacks and Scott Walker. Nina Simone did a French version as "Ne me quitte pas" on an album, a long time ago. And somewhere in the back of my mind I seem to remember a version by Dusty Springfield, but I'm not sure about that one. I love the song... (and I think I prefer the original version by Jacques Brel). Best wishes, Marion _________________________________________________________________ Marion Kippers Wolters Kluwer Academic Publishers Automation Department Dordrecht, The Netherlands Marion.Kippers@wkap.nl "Pity our emptiness..." (HR) _________________________________________________________________ ======================================================================== From: Stuart Myerburg Date: Sat, 11 Jun 94 13:03:58 -0500 Subject: Re: Stuart is famous! I am so unbelievably embarassed you have no idea. You see, this guy from _Details_ wrote to the net asking people for their dreams about Kurt Cobain for an article he was writing. Since he said he was doing an *article*, I doubted very seriously that he would be quoting me verbatim. And, since I'm always having bizarre dreams about famous people, I thought I would send it to him. I imagined a brief reference to it (if any reference) used to prove some point in his story. I did not expect it to be staring at me on the top of the page along with my name in letter-to-the-editor type format. It's really a very strange and quite stupid dream, as most of mine are, and I want to now crawl under a rock until the magazine is far away from the news stands. Stuart __________________________________________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg labspm@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu "I want to be a lawyer. I want to be a scholar. But I really can't be bothered." - Kate Bush __________________________________________________________________________ ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 13:32:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Field of Vision and Go Van Gogh Hi! I've not had much time for mail lately, and my backlog is scary, as usual. Work has been hell (nothing new); I'm taking care of woj's cat in his absence and constantly playing referee between her and my roommate's cat, who is very territorial and generally Not Very Nice to other cats in general; and I've been enjoying the weather, which has actually been wonder- ful lately. Last night I was all set to start to catch up on the mail and get some much- needed sleep, but when I got home I started reading the current New Haven Advocate, which incidentally has Tori on the cover and nice interviews with her and her opening act Bill Miller within (I'm planning to type them both in - they're rather short), when I noticed that Field of Vision and Go Van Gogh (ours, not those Canadian impostors ;>) were playing at the Eli Whitney Barn, starting 15 minutes ago. New Haven, in case you didn't know, is the home of Eli Whitney, most famous for inventing the cotton gin. His house and land are now the Eli Whitney Museum (not surprisingly, located on Whitney Avenue), and his barn, built in 1816 hosts acoustic/electric performances throughout the summer, under the auspices of the Greater New Haven Acoustic Music Society. It's a great venue- a lot like The Buttonwood Tree, in that it only seats a few people (at the most 45) and gets similar people to play there. If Happy ever does a toned- down tour with, say, just her and Kevin, it would be a great place for her to play and get some local exposure. Anyway, this barn is only located about 10 minutes away by speeding Geo Metro, so I only missed Field of Vision's first two and a half songs. I've mentioned these guys here before -- they're great. I found out their CD has been distrib- uted to over 125 radio stations across the US, so call your local college station and see if they have it. They're the #2 band at a station in Oregon, and no one's sure why. :) They played for over an hour to an enthusiastic response. Afterwards I introduced myself to Chris, the bassist/lead singer who co-writes all of the songs with Rick the guitarist, whose wife I had been sitting next to, unknowingly. (I wondered why someone else besides me was singing along t o all the songs! :) I said I had up until recently had a show on WESU, and her eyes got wide and she said, "Champagne Jam, right? I heard that show a few times and I loved it!!!" It turns out she listens to very much the same music I do: Kate, Tori, Jane, Aimee Mann (the first time I heard/ heard of Field of Vision was when they opened for Aimee Mann at Toad's Place last summer- Chris said it was the highlight of her life so far), and she just recently got really into Sarah's music too. (I was wearing my FtE Fish God T-Shirt, and she was greatly impressed to learn that Sarah draws, too.) And she's heard of Happy! She couldn't remember where she heard her, but she was able to describe her music pretty well, so I know she wasn't kidding. :) Chris introduced me to their manager, Robin, who is also a sort of important person at WNHU, the University of New Haven station (and is the same age as me, which rather blew my mind, don't know why). We talked for a while about radio and music and getting recognition for unsigned bands. I told her to send a FoV CD to WXPN and see about getting it on the World Cafe playlist, and also told her about the power of the Net in getting the word out. I don't think she really believed me about the latter, but hey. She's not computer literate, so she doesn't know what she's talking about. ;> Then Go Van Gogh took the stage, er, the corner of the barn. :) I had never quite managed to get a good listen to their music, and I was blown away. It's pretty much your standard folk-rock fare, but there's something to it that really sets it apart. I bought one of their tapes and am listening to it now, and I'm impressed by how professional it sounds, and it's just as enjoyable as the live versions. The core of the band is Cara Burgharella and James Sheehan, who are married and about to have a kid by the end of the summer, so this was probably their last performance for a while. They both share the singing and songwriting duties. Cara has a very strong voice reminiscent of Maria McKee, and she's hysterically funny. The between-song banter had everyone in stitches. I talked to her afterwards too - she's really nice. They know about the Canadian Gogh Van Go, and are in the process of trying to determine who has a right to the name. She said she thinks they've been around longer (since 1987), but since the other group is Canadian and seems to have more name recognition than they do outside of local circles, she's not sure what's going to happen. She said she does *not* want to change the name, but in the end they'll do whatever they have to do. Somewhere during the course of the evening I managed to win a promo copy of the new Joan Jett and the Blackhearts CD. I don't know why they were giving it away, and I'm even less sure of how I won it, but I did. :} I haven't gotten up the courage to listen to it yet. Apparently Field of Vision is working out the details of opening for her when she comes to Toad's Place next month, so who knows, I might end up at the show. Scary. I'm going to put songs by both FoV and Go Van Gogh on the next Happy Birthday Project tape. Not only do I think Happy will like them, but then you all can get a chance to hear what the hell I'm talking about. If you want to find out for yourselves, here's the addresses you need to know: Field of Vision Go Van Gogh c/o Lava Music c/o Vocal Motive Productions 85 Enright St. 289 Old Toll Rd. West Haven, CT 06516 Madison, CT 06443 FoV were selling their CD, _Groceries_ for $8 and Go Van Gogh were selling their tape for $7, but I'm not sure if that's the price they always charge. Both have 9 songs each. I'm sure if you sent them a SASE and $10, they'd be more than happy. And tell them Meredith from the Eli Whitney Barn show sent you. :) Off to New York to see the big dance performance. You all behave yourselves. Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== From: kmorrey@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Kathleen Morrey) Subject: Just a comment... Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 13:54:39 -0500 (CDT) I was disappointed when someone referred to the gun thread as an "ensuing flame war." I was under the impression that it was being discussed openly and rationally and I was very much enjoying seeing everyone's point of view. I know that a lot of people have strong opinions either way, the negative ones usually determined by a horrifying incident (that's so awful, Meredith, I'm SO sorry!), but I thought that almost to a one, anyone with a made-up mind on the topic stated their opinions, or related their story, without any flames or nasty comments about the other side's view. Anyway, I thought it was being a nice discussion... Kath ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 15:03:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert P. Keefer" Subject: Alison Moyet concert, Philly Inquirer \Philadelphia Inquirer, Tuesday, June 7, 1994, E2\ [Headline] Singer Alison Moyet performs at the Troc. Review: Music by Dan DeLuca Alison Moyet's got the pipes, and an identity crisis to go along with them. At the Trocadero on Sunday night, the husky-voiced British diva was flanked by two acoustic guitarists to her left, and one keyboard player/drum programmer (who dabbles on French horn) to her right. Moyet was lost in between. That's her trouble. Moyet began her career with Yaz, the early-'80's synth-soul duo that infused bright beats with real emotional power. Her solo albums --the latest is the brand-new _Essex_ (Columbia)-- have pushed ever farther in to the adult- oriented mainstream. The result is an ignoble hybrid of singer- songwriter music for people who still like to dance now and again. No necessarily a bad thing, but songwriting is not Moyet's strength, and the beats aren't quite so cleaver as when Erasure's Vince Clark was on board with Yaz. Too often at the Troc, the music sounded like unfocused lawn-party disco not up to Moyet's grandly nuanced vocals. At her best, Moyet's darkly colored voice was scintillating. On "Whispering Your Name," the Jules Shear love triangle was given a gloriously over-the-top Dusty Springfield treatment, and turned into a gay anthem. She grafted an a cappella intro from Ewan MacColl's "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face" onto Yaz's "Only You," and encored with Jacques Brel's "Ne Me Quitte Pas" --_en francais_, of course. But not all of her out-of-the-blue offerings were so canny. The Carter Family's "Will the Circle Be Unbroken" seemed transported from some hootenanny, and there was no great gain in Moyet's proving she can out-ululate Robert Plant on Led Zeppelin's "Rock and Roll." It's good to see an artist take a blind leap or two, but better when she knows where she stands before leaving the ground. -------- 30 ----------- ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 15:08:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert P. Keefer" Subject: Michelle Shocked concert in Philly Inquirer \Philadelphia Inquirer, Thursday, June 9, 1994, D2\ [Headline] Michelle Shocked outlasts much of her audience. Review: Music by Sam Wood It was the last night of Michelle Shocked's _Kind Hearted Woman_ tour, and she was making the most of it --outlasting a good half of her Theater of Living Arts audience on Tuesday with a 3 1/2 hour performance that had all the making of a Grange hall hootenanny. It was also the first chance for the audience to hear songs from Shocked's _Kind Hearted Woman_, an album that Mercury Records refused to release and that is available only at Shocked's concerts. Shocked, who undergoes stylistic transformations as often as Madonna changes hair colors, began the night in a bleak mode. "It's gonna get mighty dark before it gets light," she warned. And, indeed, her songs were stark and chilling, a return to Shocked's _Texas Campfire Tapes_ roots and the Woody Guthrie legacy she shares with Bruce Springsteen. A collaboration with choreographer Mark Morris and bassist Rob Wasserman, _Woman_ is a collection of musical portraits of rural America. Its songs of grieving mothers ("Stillborn," "Cold Comfort" and "A Child Like Grace") and a calamity-stricken farmer ("Winter Wheat") pack the emotion and detail of a novella into a scant four minutes. Backed by a drummer and Hothouse Flowers guitarist Fiachna O'Braonain and bassist/mandolinist Peter O'Toole, Shocked lifted the mood gradually. "Sweatin' to the oldies," as she put it, she launched into East Texas country-rock ("My Little Sister"), grungy blues ("When I Grow Up I Want to Be an Old Woman"), Celtic stompers ("Over the Water"), re-vamped fiddle classics ("Cotton-Eyed Joe"), her semi-hit "Anchorage," and even a lesson in the Texas two-step. Opening the show was Moxy Fruvous, a cunning Canadian quartet that trades in tight a cappella harmonies and tart political satire --sort of a Capitol Steps of the Great White North. Young, hip and occasionally hilarious, the group offered stinging jibes at Rush Limbaugh and a right-on hip-hop "Green Eggs and Ham." ------- 30 -------- ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 15:23:24 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dixon Subject: Re: Eurythmics live (was Re: The late-night listings) On Sat, 11 Jun 1994, Rod L. Bourland wrote: > When making your selection that you said you would make to > replace the purchase of the live Eurythmic cd, I suggest that you take up > someone (I forgot who!) on their advice to look out for Emily Bezar That would be me. :) Glad you like the CD. Emily's a really nice person besides. D^2 ======================================================================== From: p.cohen@genie.geis.com Date: Sat, 11 Jun 94 23:24:00 UTC Subject: New stuff 1. OK, after all the hoopla about "Heavenly Voices", I went out and got it. I've been staring at it for a month or two now each time I went into my local CD store. Haven't listened to it yet because, 2. NEW LUSH STUFF IS OUT!!!!!!!! The first two british singles from the forthcoming album are out. I've heard an advance copy of the album in the store and it's a killer. I loooooooooove Lush. +########################################################################+ +###+ Paul Cohen, Philadelphia, PA +###+ +########################################################################+ +###+ P.COHEN@genie.geis.com +###+ PMCOHEN@aol.com +###+ +###+ 70703.3126@compuserve.com +###+ PMCOHEN@delphi.com +###+ +########################################################################+ ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 21:56:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Lovejoy Subject: Shooting off my mouth again... Away too long I've been Now I am cyberfluff again... This weeks topic was largely guns. Or small guns. Maybe it was sore gums. Or sourghum. Not being one to bite the bullet, let me fire off a few words on the topic du jour. I used to think we all had the right to go without shirtsleeves, but was later informed we had the right to bear arms. Why anyone would want to remove the arms of our Ursine friends continues to be beyond comprehension. No, Guns! Ah, we have the right to take guns from bears! Um, I should stop and get serious. I'm a Vietnam vet; I had all that army training. I could dismantle my M16 and clean it with LSA (Lubricant, Small Arms) (though at the time I'd rather have used LSD) (Oh, there I go again. Apologies.) So they trained me thouroughly, packed me off to 'Nam, and I was a combat photographer for most of 1971. When I went into the field, however, I rarely carried a weapon. At best(?), I would take a .45 handgun, but I never used it, even on combat assaults. The only thing I shot the whole time I was there was photographs. And to this day, I'm comforted to know I've never taken a life, even a life that was trying to take mine. I was lucky. I got to be sane. Someone recently posted only uncivilized folks kill. A good point. Men are also victims. I agree there are a lot more women out there who are not as aggressive as men, but gender is irrelevent, people can and do hurt and kill other people. Seanymph is right; civilization is a thin veneer, and it can crack easily. Mobs and riots happen often, genocide is going on now in Rwanda and Bosnia-H., as it was in WW2 Nazi camps. I choose not to have a gun. I choose not to be a part of it. One can hope to avoid the violence, but I won't buy a ticket to that lottery. I'd fear for my family if we had a gun here, what if the kids got hold of it? What if my wife got depressed one night and...? These things can happen to anyone, regardless of precautions. I want to live this life nonviolently. Should violence touch me, I will have to accept my fate. This is a difficult planet, and if it wasn't for the wonderful parts - nature, music, art, love - it would be unbearable. I should add ecto to the wonderful parts of life. This is a unique federation of posters. One group's topic drift is another group's heart and soul. I thank you all for your stories, opinions, and revelations. I thank you for your open minds. Mostly, I thank you for pointing out some wonderful music! Ob Happy - Gray points out some Gentle Giant touches on Equipoise. I'll recommend "Off From Out From Under Me" as being a distictly Giant-like song. This month's Columbia House CD club selection is "Under The Pink" by Tori Amos. Safe travels, those who are going long distances! Safety to you all! Bob the peacenik ======================================================================== From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 11:07:26 CET-1 Subject: Today's your birthday friend.... i*i*i*i*i*i *************** ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ***** Joerg Plate ***** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joerg Plate Mon June 12 1967 Gemini Mark R. Susskind Wed June 15 1966 Gemini Ronald Hogan Tue June 16 1970 Bloomsday Mike Matthews Mon June 16 1969 SAFH Albert Philipsen Mon June 17 1968 Gemini Neal R. Copperman Thu June 17 1965 Gemini Ecto-The Mailing ListTue June 18 1991 Fuzzy blue Tracy Barber Mon June 18 1956 Gemini David Lubkin Fri June 20 1958 OurLady Marisa Wood Fri June 20 1969 Gemini Cheri Villines Sun June 20 1965 Gemini-Pisces Teresa VanDyne Thu June 23 1960 Cancer Dave Torok Mon June 24 1968 Cancer Ethan Straffin Thu June 24 1971 Cancer Anders Hallberg Tue July 3 1962 Cancer Kevin Harkins Thu July 5 1973 Cancer Laurel Krahn Mon July 5 1971 Cancer Jim Gurley Mon July 6 1959 Cancer Courtney Dallas Fri July 9 1971 Cat Michael Peskura Sat July 9 1949 HallOfFamer Finney T. Tsai Sat July 9 1966 Cancer -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.wupper.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:06:49 +0100 (CET) From: Marcel Rijs Subject: Julianne Regan Hi, I've another weird subject for this list, I hope some of you UK people can help out here. I've been a fan of the sadly departed band All About Eve for some time now, and just recently, I heard about this band the lead singer Julianne Regan would have joined. It's called "..... Ambulance", and that would be the name of either the band or their song. It would've been released on Rough trade records. I don't know any other specifics. Can anyone help? BTW what's all this about Happy's new album? Are they really planning a single & video? That wou;d be neat..... Marcel Rijs ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)