Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #616 ecto, Number 616 Friday, 18 June 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Message Status Baraka Strolling along... Re: The whole truth and other stories Re: Dallas ectophiles.. the angel gabriel False Alarms and Other News Movies Before Books Champagne Jam, 6/15/93 Re: Strolling along... ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 17 Jun 93 20:56 GMT From: "MCI Mail X.400 Service" Subject: Message Status DELIVERY NOTICE Referencing: Message id: 41930617205614/0003765414NA1EM Subject: ecto #615 Posted: Thu Jun 17, 1993 8:56 pm GMT Your Message To: callahan EMS: DIALOG MBX: callahan could not be delivered to this recipient. Reason: Unable to transfer. Diagnostic: Label in address not known to MCI Mail. This non-delivery notice generated: Thu Jun 17, 1993 8:56 pm GMT ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 17 Jun 93 23:15:34 MET From: brage@sphere.home.id.dth.dk (Jens P. Brage) Subject: Baraka Hi, yesterday I saw the movie "Baraka" by Ron Fricke (photographer on "Koyaanisqatsi" and "Powaqqatsi"). I haven't seen the movie mentioned on Ecto before, but I recommend it strongly! The theme is to some degree an extension of the two other movies, especially "Powaqqatsi". Visually and technically, the movie is extremely impressive. Apparently, a special camera was designed by Ron Fricke (et al.) for the movie, and for the first time, in my experience, time-lapse was combined with panning; the effect is most impressive. The movie consists of three parts, the first showing many different religions (a Zen monk, whirling Dervishes, etc.), perhaps with an overall theme of initiation. The second part was about the abuse of the earth, the animals and the humans (this part is rather depressing, to say the least). And the third part returns to the religions, perhaps offering these as a solution or perhaps rather as symbols of piece-of-mind/balance. The music for the film is mostly original music from all over the world, of particular Ecto-interest might be a Dead Can Dance song (I think this was used for the scenes from Kuwait), and an Irish(?) band called Brother. No Philip Glass music. Recommended, especially if you get the chance to see it on a big screen (despite the fact that this film is pretty much outside the mainstream, it has been shown for a few weeks in the largest cinema in Copenhagen. Amazing, but apparently somebody thought to take a loss for the sake of art?!). Happy birthday, Ecto! ;-) Jens P. Brage | And I looked up and there they were: Millions brage@sphere.home.id.dth.dk | of tiny teardrops just sort of hanging there. /\ | And I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. \SphereSoft | And I said to myself: What next big sky? ======================================================================== Date: 17 Jun 1993 20:19:39 U From: "Christine Waite" Subject: Strolling along... Subject: Time:8:01 PM OFFICE MEMO Strolling along... Date:6/17/93 Hi all... I want to chatter about a zillion miscellaneous things here... 1. umm..I saw Jurassic Park and then read the book...well, I read the first couple of chapters beforehand, but I don't include that...it just left me confused at the beginning more than anything. I'd definitely see the movie first, then read the book. They're very different... and reading the book later just fills in details for the movie...instead of looking for things beforehand...they're finding their place afterwards... 2. A friend of mine is working as an intern for THE ISLAND EAR. It's an alternative music magazine. They do music reviews and such...Does Kevin send press kits to such magazines? If not, I'll have my friend borrow my CDs and see if he'll listen to them... (the paper is for Long Island, NY) 3. I'm going to Utah this weekend (yea!) and bring my Happy CDs with me to try to convert some people there.... *grin* 4. To all Englanders and Aussies and Kiwis: Read STARK by Ben Elton. Excellent book! (Ben Elton wrote the script for THE YOUNG ONES.) The book isn't available in the States and I don't know about other foreign countries. I bought a copy in Gatwick Airport (England) and he's an Australian author, so I figure you can get him down there pretty easily. 5. I bought "Madra" by Miranda Sex Garden a few weeks ago. I'm really quite disappointed. (sorry.) It's pretty and all, but I rarely find myself in the mood to listen to it. What do their original songs sound like? (On the Madra album, there are three women singing (in a round) songs that are old poems). 6. I believe The Cranberries are in concert on the Jersey Shore this weekend...Maybe at Count Basies? 7. Klaus, I found out that they sell Nutella here, so Wendy and I will be well stocked forever! *smile* 8. I was given a copy of The Proclaimer's album. They sing the song "I'm gonna be (500 miles)" from Benny and Joon. The album is really quite nice...mellow...folksy...Had nice thick irish (?) accents.... almost like pub drinking music... Well, that's about it for now...hope everyone is doing well and enjoying life.... later! Christine :) "I am human and I need to be loved, just like everybody else does..." -The Smiths ======================================================================== From: boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Christopher Boek) Subject: Re: The whole truth and other stories Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 11:17:58 +1000 (EST) Mitch provides some relief with ... > > WRT Chris and Evan's colloquy in these pages on _Northern Exposure_: be of > good cheer, Chris. The Cicely/Roslyn episode is not the full extent of the > series, merely of that particular season. With the network committed, as best > I can recall, to at least a couple of more seasons in advance, you can look > forward to many more episodes reaching Oz TV in the future. > Thanke for the info, Mitch, I was a tad worried by the previous statement. I was actually under the impression that we were _years_ behind Americans in the NX department, but we've only been going six months or so, so I was a tad concerned that the show was so short. How many seasons, if I may be so bold as to ask, have there actually been now in the US, or to put in a perhaps more useful way, how many episodes ... ? Thanks Chris. -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||Christopher Boek - boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | || Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | / "Anybody remotely interesting is mad in |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| \_/\_/\_/\_/\__/(:*- some way or another" ======================================================================== From: boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Christopher Boek) Subject: Re: Dallas ectophiles.. Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 11:20:35 +1000 (EST) > > Bob Morrow > I just finished writing a little about Northern Exposure, and the next article I read is by one Robert Morrow. Ectosynchronocity strikes again .. Any relation ... ;) ? Chris. -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||Christopher Boek - boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | || Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | / "Anybody remotely interesting is mad in |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| \_/\_/\_/\_/\__/(:*- some way or another" ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 17 Jun 93 21:15:51 EDT From: goya! Subject: the angel gabriel Mike Mendelson sez: >And woj, I can't believe you too are passing on the chance. >Certainly PG is in a different class than 10KM. Oh well. well, the price isn't the whole of it. honestly, i'm not *that* enthralled by gabriel and his music. i enjoy it and i even managed to see him on the 1989 (or whatever year it was) amnesty tour with sting and tracy chap- man. i enjoyed his show - i enjoyed the whole thing in fact - but i also decided after seeing the show in ottawa's olympic stadium that i never wanted to go to a concert with more than a few thousand people in atten- dance. arena and stadium shows just don't cut it for me anymore and that is all that gabriel plays anymore it seems. in any event, i'm just not that interested in seeing gabriel live - that is the root reason. +woj ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1993 22:39:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: False Alarms and Other News Hi! Happy birthday, ecto! Welcome to the Terrible Twos... ;) When I got home last evening, there was a message from Susanne White on my answering machine regarding a CD single that is on its way to WESU, yay! Bob Lovejoy notes: }Meredith, I'm glad to see it was Brent who was playing the disc! }It was I who put him in contact with Susanne, so I'm happy to }see that it worked out! Brent is a regular on Genie, as is }Meredith and as am I. Brent Wilcox has a show called Night Land on KOTR in San Luis Obispo, CA, if any area 'Philes would like to tune in. His playlists (and mine :) can be found on GEnie's Music RT, CAT 1, TOP 31. It's a truly wonderful show, judging by the playlists, and he's been champing at the bit to be able to hear and play Happy for a while now. When he played "Feed The Fire" last week he got great response! [Random note: I just put Arson Garden into my CD player, and one of my goldfish just tried to jump out of the bowl. This has never happened before. Could this be the inverse of what happened to brni's bunny?] ANYway, in the False Alarms Dept.: Yesterday woj called me at work to report he had just heard Happy would be playing in Bearsville this Saturday. Incredulous that such an event could have been scheduled without we Ectophiles being the first to know, he called the venue, and got a confirmation. Still leery, he finally faxed Happy and she returned with a note saying it's not her, it's someone else from the area named Happy playing in Bearsville on Saturday night! While I was disappointed, I was still somewhat relieved- in the hour or so it took woj to do his investigating and get back to me, I was desperately trying to come up with an excuse to give the friend who bought me the ticket to see Peter Gabriel this Saturday for why I was blowing her off and leaving her in the lurch with a *very* expensive ticket. Now, at least, I don't have to deal with the repercussions of that. :} I mentioned this false alarm to Susanne, who found it simultaneously amusing and bemusing, and she assured me that nothing of that magnitude would happen without an announcement going out to ecto first. Apparently the CD single was ready for "release" a lot sooner than originally expected, which is why it kind of snuck up on us like this... but something like a Happy concert will be trumpeted to the ecto skies first, never fear! (I must say, though, the adrenaline rush counteracted my normal midafternoon lunch-digesting sleepiness... thanks woj. ;) In other news, Kevin reports: }Speaking of the Maniacs, I got a chance to see them on Sat }(12th) for $5. I'm not kidding about the price. They were at }Deer Creek Music Center's Fair and Music Festival -- the concert }was free with the price of getting into the fair. *GREAT* }show!!! They did a lot of older material, more songs from _In }My Tribe_ than any other album. I can't remember the exact play }list and had nothing to write it on, but I could remember all }the songs they did by looking at the albums. Not much else to }say about it. The best 10KM show I've seen was an open-air show in May of 1992. Natalie was really having a great time, and that made it an awe- some performance. She came out into the crowd and danced with us for a while, it was great. :) }To: "Where the elite meet to bleat :-)" Mitch is losing it, guys... }You're absolutely right in being unable to see it. Then, on the }other hand, there's _The Man With One Red Shoe_, which really }_was_ a bad Tom Hanks movie. That's the one I was thinking of. The fairy tale the album title seems to be based on is one that eluded my grasp in childhood... Kate expands my literary horizons once again. ;) Meredith meth@delphi.com "i'm just a stupid music critic with a bad attitude." -woj ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1993 22:48:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Movies Before Books Hi! mjm wonders if anyone has read the book after seeing the movie: I have, many times. The most notable example is the movie HENRY AND JUNE, which is 100% responsible for getting me into the works of Anais Nin and Henry Miller. I read the excerpts from Nin's diaries called "Henry and June" about a year ago, and I must say that for pure shock value the movie was much better, though you can't really say the movie had all that much to do with the excerpts that were in the book itself. They are quite different. (Incidentally, the *un*expurgated diaries of Anais Nin are appearing, one by one... I'm waiting for the month when I have the time to really sit down and read them...) Another time I saw the movie then read the book was FRIED GREEN TOMATOES. While I absolutely positively *love* the movie, I thoroughly enjoyed the book as well, but again, you have to consider them separate entities. It's almost as if Fannie Flagg treated the screenplay as a further revision of the book as she was writing it- besides having different endings, there are other, more profound differences between the movie and the book as well. I would recommend seeing the movie before reading the book, because if you're like me, doing the opposite might just piss you off enough to turn you off the movie. (If I had seen the film after reading the book, the changes would have pissed me off for sure...) I intend to read the book JURASSIC PARK after seeing the movie, not only because I won't have time to read it before I see it, but because of what people have been saying here. Oh- anyone in the area should know that the Peabody Museum of Natural History at Yale is running an exhibition from July4-August 29 on all the scientific questions raised in JURASSIC PARK: dinosaurs, cloning, bugs preserved in amber, Chaos Theory, DNA, and much more. I can't wait- the Peabody is a great museum, and it promises to be an incredible exhibition. If you do come to town for it, be sure to look me up... Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1993 22:50:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Champagne Jam, 6/15/93 Hi! Here we go again: CHAMPAGNE JAM 88.1FM, WESU-Middletown Wesleyan University Middletown, CT Tuesday, June 15, 1993 7-9PM ...in which we are in a Kate Bush mood at definitive news of the existence of her new album... 10,000 MANIACS: "Circle Dream" (Our Time In Eden) KATE BUSH: "Un Baiser D'Enfant" (This Woman's Work I) PRAISE: "Dream On" (Praise) ST. ETIENNE: "Hobart Paving" (So Tough) HAPPY RHODES: "Phobos" (Warpaint) HAPPY RHODES: "Runners" (Equipoise) KATE BUSH: "Hounds of Love" (Hounds Of Love) TASMIN ARCHER: "Ripped Inside" (Great Expectations) JUDYBATS: "La Dulcinea" (Pain Makes You Beautiful) CHAMELEONS: "Thursday's Child" (Radio I Evening Shows Sessions) ROBYN HITCHCOCK AND THE EGYPTIANS: "Driving Aloud (Radio Storm)" (Respect) SARAH MCLACHLAN: "Shelter (Violin Mix)" (Path Of Thorns CD5) MARY BLACK: "Adam At The Window" (Babes In The Wood) LOREENA MCKENNITT: "All Souls Night" (The Visit) KATE BUSH: "The Fog" (The Sensual World) LAURIE ANDERSON: "Ramon" (Strange Angels) COCTEAU TWINS: "Orange Appled" (12" EP) CRANES: "Sun and Sky" (Forever) HIS NAME IS ALIVE: "Sick" (Mouth By Mouth) PJ HARVEY: "Rub `Til It Bleeds" (Rid Of Me) ZUZU'S PETALS: "Standing By The Sea" (Cinderella's Daydream CD5) MIRANDA SEX GARDEN: "Ardera Sempre" (Suspiria) THE SUNDAYS: "Hideous Towns" (Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic) THE SUNDAYS: "What Do You Think?" (Blind) AIMEE MANN: "Say Anything" (Whatever) KATE BUSH: "This Woman's Work" (The Sensual World) Until next week... Meredith m@delphi.com ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Strolling along... Date: Fri, 18 Jun 93 00:13:42 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Christine writes: >8. I was given a copy of The Proclaimer's album. They sing the song "I'm gonna >be (500 miles)" from Benny and Joon. The album is really quite >nice...mellow...folksy...Had nice thick irish (?) accents.... almost like pub >drinking music... Funny, I'd been meaning to say something about the Proclaimers for a couple of days, but I keep forgetting about it. The Proclaimers are a couple of brothers from Scotland. As I understand it, they're the only two actual band members, but they have loads of folks playing with 'em. They've two albums out, _Sunshine On Leith_, and an earlier one the title of which I can never remember, as I never got around to buying it when I was in my Proclaimers phase 3 or 4 years ago. _Sunshine on Leith_ is a wonderful album. The song "500 Miles" is pretty representative, and it's nice to hear it getting some air play. In fact, the only time I'd ever heard the Proclaimers on the radio before _Benny and Joon_ was one night when 'HFS played "500 Miles" about two years ago. To add to Christine's description, it's very folky but also somewhat bluesy. All of this sounds rather odd, but endearing, when sung with a heavy Scotish accent. >"I am human and I need to be loved, >just like everybody else does..." -The Smiths Oh good. Smiths lyrics. *Everyone* should quote Smiths lyrics. Of course, I know how Vickie feels about Morrissey and the Smiths (hey, Vickie, did you ever hear the single "November Spawned a Monster" featuring growled and shrieked BVs by MMO'H?) and I don't _really_ want to annoy her. "Love is natural and real / but not for such as you my love / not tonight my love..." Jeff ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)