Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #609 ecto, Number 609 Tuesday, 15 June 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Hello Ramblings Mountain Stage Not really any Happy Hearings and Stranger Things Olivier seconded Re: Happy Birthday Project expanded mind its only half a klaus... mm mmm to you... ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 12 Jun 93 01:32:49 MET From: amipb@amipb.gna.org (Philippe Berard) Subject: Hello Hello ectophiles ! I'm new to this mailing-list, so I must conform to the directives first : I'm a 24 years old, 1.80 meters tall with a 41 shoe size (approx. 27 cm, I don't know what's the common measure in the US). My main interests are, for computers : programming, graphics (image processing and 3D) and music (MIDI). My favourite computer is the Amiga (what else ?) :-) My other interests are : religions, past civilizations, astronomy and music. Well, too much for the features. I've comed to this list because Vickie Mapes, the WretchAwry clone to which I send a great big humpf! (private joke :-) ), who have known me on the Kate Bush mailing-list (love-hounds), asked to Steve Fagg to send me a sampler tape of Happy Rhodes work (wait a little more, Steve, you'll get my greetings in the next mail :-) ), and to report my impressions on this list. Now, I've listened to it too many times to tell you the correct number, and I find it quite impressive and delightful. Desperatly, I don't have enough time this evening to write the complete review, so I should post it next week (4-18 June). As you may guess, it will be quite positive :-) Regards, -- Philippe PS : Sorry for the looonnnnnggg delay, Vickie, but my mail/news feed has some *serious* problems these days (and I think that receiving 5 mailing-lists is maybe a part of the problem) but, well, here I am, finally ! ;) .----------------------------------------------------------------------------. | Philippe Berard (French Amiga User) | UseNet : amipb@amipb.gna.org | | "They hold a cup of wisdom, | -> Please don't send mails | | But there is nothing within" (Kate Bush). | >50 Ko ! | `----------------------------------------------------------------------------' ======================================================================== Subject: Ramblings Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 16:02:25 EDT From: Angelos Kyrlidis Hi, A couple of things that may or may not interest ectophiles: a) Cambridge Tower has 4 copies of Equipoise, Warpaint and Ecto, 2 copies of Rearmament and a copy of VII. That's more Happy than they have ever had. Next thing you know she'll have a whole bin to herself! b) MCM, the french MTV, has videotaped a concert by Haris Alexiou at the Lycabettus theater in Athens (where Gabriel's PoV was filmed), and will be broadcasting it this summer, so European ectophiles interested in seeing the most popular greek female singer should check their satellite TV listings. Apparently her latest album 'Di'efhon' has been released in France and is very popular there. c) MCM also wanted to film a George Dalaras concert (the most popular male singer in Greece) and some brilliant person decided to ask Peter Gabriel to do a guest appearance or even open the show (!!). Peter Gabriel declined. d) Peter Gabriel and U2 will be playing in Athens in the fall (according to my sources) so look for a second leg of the Gabriel tour in Europe. Also, Jean Michel Jarre will be giving a rare concert in Greece in the fall. [I will naturally miss all of these wonderful events :-(] e) I will be passing through Chicago en route to Berkeley on the 26th of June. I have only an hour between flights, so it's impossible to meet anybody or see Gaffa central :-(, but I remember reading about some 'cool thing' at the airport. Would someone enlighten me as to where to look for it? That's all for now. Back to thesis editing. Angelos 'Put on your red shoes and dance The blues'-DB PS. ^^^^^^^^^ Kan'T waiT! ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1993 16:13:15 -0500 From: jim@medinah.atc.ucarb.com Subject: Mountain Stage woj said: >also while driving home last night, i caught the tail end of this past >week's mountain stage program featuring robyn hitchcock, 10,000 maniacs >and zap mama. all i heard was the end of the maniacs' last song "hey >jack kerouac") and the finale at the end (a rousing chrous of the beatles' >"get back" with robyn on made up vocals). if anyone taped this, *tell >me*. I have a copy of the show (I recorded it on my VCR). It would probably have to go on a 110 minute tape. Unfortunately, my cassette recorder is messed up so it would probably be a few weeks before I could copy it. If no one else offers, let me know that you want still want it. Jimfred jim@medinah.atc.ucarb.com ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 23:44:08 MET From: brage@sphere.home.id.dth.dk (Jens P. Brage) Subject: Not really any Hi! Dennis wrote: > Has anyone else heard of Kate & Anna McGarrigle? Eh, well, who haven't? ;-) Great duo (though I'll admit I'm not familiar with their later works), I'd give a lot to get to see them live... Just put on my tape of "Kate & Anne McGarrigle" (recorded from my brother's collection). Sigh... They probably sing one of the oddest harmonies around... Beth: > I can now become a real person again (and hopefully change my lurker > status in the very near future). Yes, it's true. The written thesis > was passed by all three examiners and the oral exammination went without a > hitch (okay... some of the DNA fingerprinting questions, and those relating > to evolution of certain behaviours in seals, got a little tough but I > managed.) Congratulations! And on the Cherryh front: I just picked up "Hellburner" today and have read a few pages. Looking good... :-) Jens P. Brage | And I looked up and there they were: Millions brage@sphere.home.id.dth.dk | of tiny teardrops just sort of hanging there. /\ | And I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. \SphereSoft | And I said to myself: What next big sky? ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1993 20:01:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Happy Hearings and Stranger Things Hi! Heard "Don't Want to Hear It" on ECHOES last night, followed by Bel Canto's "White Out Conditions" soon thereafter. I've noticed that whenever Happy get splayed on ECHOES it's always right before a voice break, so there's no time for people to forget who they're hearing. :) Anybody know if her albums are available through the ECHOES Catalog? Also, the CD single is out! At least, it's in the hands of a DJ in San Luis Obispo, CA, who played it on his show Saturday night- he played "Feed The Fire", to great response- he got some calls from people wanting more information. (I'm blanking on the call letters of the staion... KO something.) The DJ was Brent Wilcox, yay Brent! I hope this means a CD5 will be appearing at WESU soon, and that it sees the light of the air studio... If anyone hears of when eMpTV will be rebroadcasting the hour-long version of 10,000 Maniacs on Unplugged, PLEASE let me know!!!!! I missed it last night because I had no clue it would be on, and now I am Most Displeased. I don't want to miss it again. Kate's new album will be called The Red Shoes. Exceedingly bizarre. All I can think of is a bad Tom Hanks movie. But I cannot WAIT to see the film! (Why do I have the feeling this is going to be her excuse for not touring this time...) Condolences on the Bulls' loss last night, Vickie, but you gotta admit, it was one heluva game... Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Happy Hearings and Stranger Things Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 20:28:02 EDT From: Angelos Kyrlidis Suspended in duct tape wearing red shoes :-) writes: >Also, the CD single is out! At least, it's in the hands of a DJ in San Luis >Obispo, CA, who played it on his show Saturday night- he played "Feed The >Fire", to great response- he got some calls from people wanting more >information. And WHY may I ask have we not been informed? :-) Seriously, how much should I send to AG? (and could someone post the new address once again, please) I will be going to Greece in 5 weeks and would love to have it by then. I guess AG should start opening accounts with frequent buyers!! :-) PLEASE Vickie or Bob L. PLEASE let us know the price and ordering info ASAP. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE [Meth, are you sure it wasn't FTF from Warpaint? ;-)] Angelos (today's been a great day for music news. First KaTe and now Happy!) ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 18:34:56 PDT From: Neal R. Copperman Subject: Olivier seconded Brian B. recommends Olivier Olivier, and I would have to heartily agree. I have one question that has been puzzling me about the movie, but hesitate to talk to much about movies, for fear of spoiling for those who haven't seen the flick yet. So first, I've really enjoyed my first week of Happy readings, particularly the wide range of music you folks like to talk about and listen to. Thanks to those who sent me comments on how to start my Happy collection, although they didn't help at all. Not surprisingly, there was not a consensus. A sampler tape sounds good, but I am getting impatient, so I will have to make up my mind in a day or two. Now, those who haven't seen the above movie may want to stop here. Olivier is in the police station, and is able to reveal (relatively) intimate information about his family (mom's maiden name, no brother, just a sister.) How did he come by this information? I have no clue, unless they are trying to push some additional metaphysical aspect, which wasn't really followed up on. Did I miss something? Or did they? And aren't all Cure albums indispensible? neal ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1993 10:00:36 +0800 From: m.dougiamas@info.curtin.edu.au (Martin Dougiamas) Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Project Doug writes: >Two, if you are too shy to >write anything, Mitch will record an introduction for you, including your >name, city/country of residence, your selection, and anything else that pops >into his mind. :) That's a scary thought! :-D Good to hear you're taking the HBP on, Doug. Martin -- .---- _ . ---------------------------------+-------------------------------. | _r| Ll\ Martin Dougiamas, Ectophile | You ask so many questions, | | | |_|__\ m.dougiamas@info.curtin.edu.au | What answers should I choose? | |->\ |_|_ / Curtin University | Is it schizoid paranoia | | ~~ `_' Perth, Western Australia | or just existential blues? | |_______ v __________________________________|___________ T-Bone Stankus __| ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 22:40 EDT From: robert@deepspace.nj00802.sai.com (Robert Lovejoy) Subject: expanded mind Hi Ecto! Not so long ago, brni and I (I,rbrt!) exchanged some music tapes. I gave him some Gentle Giant, he gave me an astonishing aural panorama that got my head spinning! LPDs,Coil,Diamanda Galas(shades of Lord Buckley, but on acid & speed?), John Zorn, Lounge Lizards, The Bears, Consolidated, Shriekback (Wonderful!), The Birthday Party, Skinny Puppy, God Bullies, Gang of Four, Clint Ruin & Lydia Lunch, Kate, Broadside Electric, Elvis C., TMBG, Marillon, Throwing Muses, and The Breeders. WOW! I missed a LOT of this music because I never got the chance to hear it before! It's criminal how the media supress so much wonderful music! To think that Throwing Muses are no more; had I heard them - had many of us heard them, they might still be together. I love the song "Santa Claus"; so visceral and fun! Where was I when all this was going on? Why didn't any local radio play them? I'd like to publicly thank brni for the brain transfusion! I also send my condolences on your SO's prior. Whew, what a story! This is quite a year for you, brni, so hang in there and keep your spirit up! In the words of the Great Dan Rather: "Courage!"... And that's the way it is... Bob L. ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 15 Jun 93 01:22:44 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) Subject: its only half a klaus... >From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) >Subject: Re: money is a fiction, after all > >> but the most important one, one which i've been searching for for >> a long long time, but couldn't find, and managed to find used >> vinyl today: >> >> gary numan - dance > >It's not his best, but still... it's available on CD quite easily by the >way - Beggar's Banquet in the UK re-released all of Numan's albums a few >years ago, two albums to a CD. They're all digitally mastered from the >original tapes, and sound great. > yeah, they are available in the us as imports (about $22) and they got kinda hacked up too. this was especially true of dance, which is kinda long. i wanted the whole album, not just parts of it. after _dance_ numan's record co. stopped distributing stuff in the us (i guess it kinda flopped), and i heard a rumour that he'd quit music to start a hovercraft company. i liked _dance_ better than everything that he had put out before then, and it wasn't until _new anger_ came out that i saw anything else by him. i don't much like _new anger_ (a bit too "dance music" for me), and haven't heard any of his other stuff after _dance_. and besides, he looks *great* with silver lipstick. >> mick karn plays bass on the numan album, and its really some of the >> bass playing i've heard. a lot of the time the bass carries the >> melody. i had a tape of it a long time ago, and it got eaten, but >> only after the album itself became unavailable. sigh. > >Have you heard the "Dali's Car" album that Mick Karn did wiht Pete Murphy? >It features the Incredible Bass Playing Of Doom. > no, i haven't, but i looked for it under advice from rec.music.makers.bass people, and found that it too is selling for $22+. sigh. i have a hard time spending that kind of cash on a single disk, and would really only do it for Kate. apparently mick karn also played for a guy named david torn (or maybe it was john torn? no, it was david.), along with some obscure drummer named bill bruford. >> _disintegration_ my roommate has, or rather, i have it, but can now >> give it back to him. i would count it among one of the "great albums >> of all time", and among the 3 really good cure albums (the other 2 >> are _the head on the door_ and _pornography_). > >What about "Seventeen Seconds" and "Faith"? Indispensible, if short. > i suppose we'll have to disagree on _faith_, and i haven't heard _seventeen seconds_. _wish_ and that _kiss me_ album are nice and all, but not really great. >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au > "Something about this place makes me lose a grip on time and space..." > - Saint Etienne >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >From: robert@deepspace.nj00802.sai.com (Robert Lovejoy) >Subject: expanded mind > >Hi Ecto! > Not so long ago, brni and I (I,rbrt!) exchanged some music tapes. I >gave him some Gentle Giant, he gave me an astonishing aural panorama that >got my head spinning! an interesting image, i must admit. :^> :^P > LPDs,Coil,Diamanda Galas(shades of Lord Buckley, but on acid & speed?), >John Zorn, Lounge Lizards, The Bears, Consolidated, Shriekback (Wonderful!), >The Birthday Party, Skinny Puppy, God Bullies, Gang of Four, Clint Ruin & >Lydia Lunch, Kate, Broadside Electric, Elvis C., TMBG, Marillon, Throwing >Muses, and The Breeders. i'm glad you liked the shriekback. their album _oil and gold_ is, imnsvho, also one of the Great Albums of All Time. one of these days i'll drum up a list of such albums for debate :^>. (elvis C. has 2 on the list, btw) > WOW! I missed a LOT of this music because I never got the chance to >hear it before! It's criminal how the media supress so much wonderful music! >To think that Throwing Muses are no more; had I heard them - had many of us >heard them, they might still be together. I love the song "Santa Claus"; >so visceral and fun! Where was I when all this was going on? Why didn't >any local radio play them? making videos? because they are stupid and owned by sony and time/warner and westinghouse? this is something that has really been bothering me about wxpn. when i first started listening to them, they were student run, and they would, for example, play mussorgsky, king crimson, and the dead kennedys all in the same set. they played lots of interesting and experimental music. now they play the "i changed the name of this town" song 10 times a day ( a fine song, mind you, but still...). i remember when the entire staff of wxpn quit publicly on the air when the new manager announced that they were becoming formatted, and that they would have a music programmer to help pick songs out for them. wkdu has expanded a little from its hardcore punk roots to try to fill in some of that gap, but there is still no outlet for really experimental stuff (like john zorn, john cage, or anything that doesn't thrash enough to mosh to, yet isn't soothing-sounding enough for the workplace). > I'd like to publicly thank brni for the brain transfusion! I also send >my condolences on your SO's prior. Whew, what a story! This is quite a >year for you, brni, so hang in there and keep your spirit up! In the words >of the Great Dan Rather: "Courage!"... well, batch's death doesn't really affect me. i met him once, even tho he was in emily's circle of friends. it was more the memories that my conversation with em created for me that had me down. but andy killed himself many years ago. none of us were really surprised, but we were still in shock. i wonder if his family will ever manage to scrape up enough money for a stone... oh, by the way, your welcome. the gentle giant is great. its still in the car stereo, and i think its time to call xpn again and bug them to play some GG. i'm sure you have tons of music that i've never heard (my formative years were spent trying to dig past the journey/toto/bad company/foreigner/rolling stones/jackson browne/styx schlock that filled the airwaves--one day i bought _yessongs_ because of the cover art, and my life was transformed). > And that's the way it is... > Bob L. > oh, in other news, i heard today that robert fripp is reforming king crimson. :) soon we will have new crimson and new steely dan! hurrah! and tell me MORE about this new kate and new happy stuff!!!!!!!! in other other news: my brother loaned me the stiff little fingers peels sessions disk. there are some great versions of those songs. perhaps this is the wakeup disk that woj is looking for; if this don't get the blood pumping, you're dead. wait. it was meredith that was looking for the wakeup disk. oops. for those not in the know, slf was a punk band in the late '70's. for those who like simple, harsh, screaming, unpretentious, political noise by people who can't play ("they said 'you're not good enough to be a dance band.' WE'LL SHOW THEM!!!"), slf is a must. they are by far the best in the genre (better than dk's, fear, or any of those folk). well, enuf for tonight. i must go check gaffa for katenews... best, brni ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 15 Jun 93 2:28:45 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: mm mmm to you... HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Mark Susskind! Vickie ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)