Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #257 ecto, Number 257 Thursday, 11 June 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Fluff (tm) Re: more happy Happy news from Eugene Re: a few things.. Re: a few things.. Happy SF (The inside scoop) From little acorns (not to be confused w/ little earthquakes :-) )... Re: From little acorns (not to be confused w/ little earthquakes :-) )... Tapes! Oranges and earwigs, among other things Re: Oranges and earwigs, among other things Blauensaft, usw. Good Taste in the Radio Industry hi from colorado!!!! A_CASE_OF_MISTAKEN_IDENTITY ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 07:48:00 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Fluff (tm) Greetings, Given the great scholarly debate on the precise location of Ecto's birthday, and with all deference to Tracy :), I'll simply restrict myself to raising a warm fuzzy blue toast (Ugh! This stuff is horrible! :) ) in honor of the first anniversary of the first electronic convocation of proto-Ectophiles to wonder at the musical artistry of one Happy Rhodes. In other words, Nine Day Party On, Dudes and Dudettes!!! Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 11:29:55 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: Re: more happy Happy news from Eugene Steve hopes: > I just hope that she becomes popular enough in Eugene that the next > live tour will visit here :-). yow! we'll have to upgrade the ecto-mobile to the ecto-bus! :) footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "would that i could" -- HR ======================================================================== From: Martin Dougiamas Subject: Re: a few things.. Date: Thu, 11 Jun 92 0:09:54 WST Yo ho, Martin here... down under, but not down. To all the people who already have their 1st4 CD's: I'M JEALOUS, YA HEAR??? :) BTW, what exactly are the extra songs on each album? Are they the extra ones Happy did in concert? Or, >gasp< NEW new songs.. Mitch roasted Deborah Blando (what an unfortunate name!): > Her country of residence notwithstanding, Blando's album does not sound > particularly Brazilian. If anything, it seems more like an attempt to be a > Madonna knockoff than anything else. The real Madonna does it better. I > like Happy's music better than Blando's. I even like Madonna's music better > than Blando's. It may be instructive that immediately after I finished lis- > tening to Blando's album, I felt impelled to start listening to Happy--the > first time I've ever had this kind of a cleansing urge _in re_ recorded music. :) C'mon Mitch, what about the single...(damn, forgotten the name...something about justice?) ...that's not too bad... Actually, having heard it twice now, I must say I prefer it (that song, anyway) to much of Tori's stuff. Sounds nothing like Madonna to me, but then my brain is so riddled with "Chaos and the Philosophy of Science" at the moment, that not even Madonna sounds like Madonna (and good thing too :). > In fairness, it's not all as bad as the above jeremiad might imply. > One of the cuts, "Other People's Houses," is actually a rather catchy tune, Is this the Paul Kelly song about the child whose mother cleans houses for a living? > it may, I'm sure that none of us should have any difficulty finding better > albums than this one to commit our resources to. Definitely... like US$80 to get the 1st4 down here to OZ... Ouch. Ah, the life of a student... there's nothing like it. Well, except slavery, maybe. :) Greg on Katemas : > last year, parties were held across the u.s.a., the uk, finland, > australia, etc... I don't read gaffa anymore, and haven't for quite some time. Where are the Australian Katemas parties going to be? Sounds like it could be quite a ball...especially if a few Aussie Ectophiles turn up. *evil grin* Angelos on 1st4 release: > [this is what I plan to post to rec.music.info, and rec.music.cd > Any comments?] Looks great to me... I only hope the first 1000 don't sell out before I get my stash together. :) Back to high-falutin' essays, Martin -- ,-----------------------------------------------------------------------------. | Free and easy, that should be her name Martin Dougiamas | | She took my lovin' for a nursery game martin@cs.curtin.edu.au | | The heart she gave me wasn't strong or made of stone Curtin University | | It was sweet and hollow, like a honeycomb. Perth, Western Australia | `=== Love Like a Rock (in Stormy Sea) - Rory McLeod ==========================' ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 12:40:13 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: Re: a few things.. Martin is up and upside down: >To all the people who already have their 1st4 CD's: > I'M JEALOUS, YA HEAR??? :) > BTW, what exactly are the extra songs on each album? Are they the extra > ones Happy did in concert? Or, >gasp< NEW new songs.. so am i! ;) i saw/heard Angelos' copies last night -- mine haven't arrived yet! if anyone has *any* doubts about buying them, rest assured -- they are worth the price and then some!!!! the packaging is beautiful, the lyrics are all there, the new songs are beautiful (they are, in fact, unreleased songs and alternate takes of old songs), the ectophiles are thanked 4 times, and the sound quality is AMAZING!!!!!!!!!! really really really amazing!!!!!!!! >Greg on Katemas : >> last year, parties were held across the u.s.a., the uk, finland, >> australia, etc... > >I don't read gaffa anymore, and haven't for quite some time. Where are >the Australian Katemas parties going to be? Sounds like it could be >quite a ball...especially if a few Aussie Ectophiles turn up. *evil grin* Graham just posted in gaffa: >From: graham@ITMEL.BHP.bhpmel02.telememo.au (Graham) >Subject: KaTemas in the air >Date: 10 Jun 92 08:47:10 GMT > >Since we all seem to be getting ready for KaTemas, who out there is >coming to our Wollongong one? Give me an e-mail reply and we'll start >getting ready. > >- Graham BTW, gaffa is *much* improved in the last month or so... footah 'til you drop! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "would that i could" -- HR ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: Happy SF (The inside scoop) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 14:20:00 EDT Hi, As promised, here are the relevant bits from the Ecto/Homeground interview that Vickie did last year. [which reminds me: with Vickie on sabbatical, how can we do a version 2, ecto-birthday interview? I wish I had an Amiga, that could share files with the Hapster, but I don't so I can only volunteer to put together a file with the questions :) But then since Happy is recording, does she even have time for our questions? ] Not surprisingly the answers come from questions from the cosmic vagabond himself: ============================================================================ Klaus Kluge: Do you like to read, and what are you reading now? Favorite authors? Books? 'Phobos' and 'Wrong Century' gave me the impression that you're into reading SF. --------------------------------------------- I do like to read science fiction. In fact, I read little else. I'm currently reading two books........Journeys Out of the Body, by Robert Monroe,(not SF, but as close to it as you can get) and the other is My Father Immortal, by Michael Weaver. I don't think I'm well enough read to actually have favorite authors yet, although Frank Herbert never disappointed me. My favorite books are not science fiction, but most people would consider them to be. HR ============================================================================ If everything works out, you should soon be painting your first book cover, a science fiction novel. How did that come about and what are your thoughts about getting into this new venture? --------------------------------------------- This came about when Michael Weaver asked me if I'd be interested in doing the cover for his next book. He liked what he had seen of my work. I was flattered and not altogether sure if I could do it. I don't actually think I have any place doing the cover art of a published SF novel. There are so many brilliant artists out there, who are more capable of the task than I am. I had considered it as a career, at one point in my life, but music seems to be the dominant force at play here. If the Art Department at Avon Publishing House approves me, it will be an exciting challenge and I'll do my best, but it probably won't become a habit. HR ============================================================================= Klaus: Were you inspired by the paintings of _H.R._ Giger? --------------------------------------------- Indeed. Not only that, but two of my favorite movies are "Alien" and "Aliens". HR ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So there you have it! :) Angelos ======================================================================== Date: 10 June 1992 15:10:34 CDT From: Subject: From little acorns (not to be confused w/ little earthquakes :-) )... Some time ago, while rearchiving a bunch of files, I came across the following in my collected email. This day being the anniversary that it is, it is now my great pleasure to share it with you all as a matter of historical interest. ========================================================================= Date: 10 June 1991 11:18:26 CDT From: To: jessica@athos.rutgers.EDU (jessica) In-Reply-To: 10 Jun 91 03:50:24 GMT Subject: Re: Happy Rhodes mailing list > > Ok. I agree that something that takes up this much discussion > warrants a seperate area for it. > > Most topics come and go - there's no point in creating a news group > or mailing list if the traffic will die down quickly. > > I never expected the posts about happy rhodes to go on so long. > When they did, I wasn't sure they'd still continue to for very long. > > Now that I have Warpaint and all four of the tapes, I am > pretty convinced that the discussions will not end, not soon, > and not at all if Happy Rhodes continues to make music. > > I agree with Vickie and others who have said this: Happy Rhodes > is an important artist. Whether she has a major record company's > contract or not. > > Someone commented snidely about "what will be next, happy ftp sites? > happy gifs? happy etc...?" Well i actually happen to think "yes" > as I for one do want to have at least all of the album covers as GIFs. > (Whoever said the daemons were ugly - i agree, and i think they're great!) > > Anyway, enough said for my last post about happy to this group. > What I'd like to do is announce a mailing list for the discussion > of Happy Rhodes. > > I will decide tomorrow (monday june 10) what to call it. > Until then, if you'd like to be a part of the list, please > send me a message at . Or instead, > perhaps we can have a few days of discussion as to what permanent > name to give it. > > To those who have been disturbed by the posts about Happy here on > rec.music.gaffa, and no longer have any interest at all in hearing her > music, I am truly sorry and hope that you can come across it by > accident sometime as it is truly beautiful and moving and special. > > jessica > -- > || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for | > || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. | > || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, | > || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes | Put me on the list. Mitch Pravatiner ========================================================================= Happy birthday to ecto, or pre-ecto, or whatever the hell it is that arrived on earth a year ago today, which event I have a feeling we'll be celebrating continuously between now and the 18th, so as to cover everything that's been posited as the true anniversary. Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 10 Jun 92 16:42:11 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: Re: From little acorns (not to be confused w/ little earthquakes :-) )... goodness, and what a year it's been... last saturday i slept in my new bed in my new apartment in new brunswick, new jersey -- all those "new"s capture my mood pretty well... i am still not living there full-time, alas; it will be a gradual process. but for me the 18th will be a celebration not just of ecto's anniversary -- i'll be welcoming a new and no doubt extraordinary year :) mm, and here i am announcing KaTemas, which will be an even more significant celebration for me... "don't try to tell me there's no reason for any moment in time, every memory of mine" -- HR footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "this is where life begins if love is a game, i win" -- Happy Rhodes ======================================================================== Date: 11-JUN-1992 01:01:48.00 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Tapes! Hi! Two (well, three) new tapes are going to grace Doug's list within the next few days. They are: The (Un)Official Happy Sampler Champagne Jam The Last (12 May, 1992), tapes I and II The Sampler is 100 Minutes of pure Happy-ness, for use as a mix or to see which album you want to buy first. :) The Champagne Jam is three hours of my last radio show ever :( on WESU-Middletown in Connecticut, featuring requests sent in by Ectophiles, mega recording difficulties (but the tape as a whole is listenable to), and a special guest appearance by our own Valerie Nozick! That's on one 120-Minute tape and one side of another, but I'm sure Doug can make do with two 90-Minutes (if that's a problem just let me know, Doug). I'm sure he'll let us all know when he has them. I'll post a playlist for the show and for the Sampler tomorrow. ======================================================================= |Meredith A. Tarr "Feel the yearning for peace and| |mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu happiness..." -Happy Rhodes| ======================================================================= ======================================================================== Date: 10 June 1992 15:32:30 CDT From: Subject: Oranges and earwigs, among other things Like all the rest of us, I recently received the latest newsletter from Aural Gratification. I've always been at least mildly amused by the way these pub- lications always put Happy's name in boldface, or italics, or all capitals, or some combination thereof, depending on the edition (e.g., "the support everyone has given _HAPPY_ has been incredible," and soforth). This always arouses a number of associations in my mind. When I was a kid, I was into superhero comic books (Superman, Batman, etc.) for a while. All the dialog within the baloons, and explanatory remarks elsewhere in the panels, was in italicized upper case. Within this general typographic convention, the names of all the superheroes were always in bold (e.g., "Holy Warpaint, _BATMAN_, the 1st4 CD's are out..."). Would this qualify Happy as a kind of superhero? :-) When I was in sixth grade, my German class was periodically issued copies of a _My Weekly Reader_-type publication--_auf Deutsch_, of course--chock full of rather simple-minded texts supposedly keyed to the comprehension level of people of that mental age. In one issue, it ran a feature on things one could make from oranges. The source of my retrospective mirth was the way it always mentioned the word "Orangen" in all caps, with the first letter much larger than the rest, and filled in with the color orange. (Which I shall represent here as "*O*." Was macht man daraus? (What does one make of it? *O*RANGEN sind gut, ORANGES are good, *O*RANGEN sing gesund, ORANGES are healthy, *O*RANGEN sind billig. ORANGES are cheap. Was macht man aus *O*RANGEN? What does one make from ORANGES?) It went on to propose several things; I only remember the first, which was ORANGENSAFT (orange juice)--or was it *O*RANGENSAFT? It could well have been the latter. Anyway, what followed was the whole nine yards about how to squeeze, strain, bottle, etc. What first brought the above to mind was something that happened five or six years ago. My employer at the time circulated a memo noting that there was an infestation of the earwig insect in the neighborhood, and that our building was thus at risk, so that they should be watched out for and the Raid cans be summoned if needed. For whatever reason, the name of the bug was always capitalized and underlined, e.g., "you can recognize _EARWIGS_ by the hornlike projections from their tails." Enough repetitions of this graphic device--com- ing as it did hard on the heels of the memo noting that the building would be sealed that weekend against the crowds attending a nearby air show, while ignoring competely such practical issues as what to do if a stray F-15 flew through your window--and I decided the most relevant part of the earlier absurdity was the first line--_was macht man daraus?_ Be all this as it may, I still find AG's compulsion to emphasize Happy's name the number of times per newsletter they do amusing. The moral of all this, I suppose, is: ***When life hands you lemons, make Orangensaft.*** --Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 11 Jun 92 10:41:30 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: Re: Oranges and earwigs, among other things :) :) :) was macht man mit Mitch. mm? i snarfed my tea in delight over that last post... i made a little book of Jeanne's poems, and now i am thinking i should make one of Mitch's essays... this could be the start of Ecto's publishing division: Word's Weren't Made For Cowards, Ltd. of course, given the time it has taken us to finish even a single issue of the ecto-zine, our customers would have to dig, they would have to prod... :) -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "i am transparent, an open book there's no choice in the matter but the breath from my mind is living air and the notes from my heart are what I share" -- Happy Rhodes ======================================================================== Date: 11 June 1992 12:56:02 CDT From: Subject: Blauensaft, usw. Observed on the bus the other day: somebody drinking a bottle of Mr. Pure Bahama Blue fruit juice drink. I have not yet been able to track this product down in any store, so I can't give you a rundown on the ingredients. I did notice that it was translucent--not fuzzy in the least. Earlier that same day, Vickie showed me the cover art on the 1st4 CD's, and asked me to point out to y'all that those who bought the 1st production run have a collector's item already, in that the list of tracks on _Rearmament_'s booklet includes something called "I Have Heart" (sic), which is, in fact, the same song that we all have come to knoiw and love as "I Have _A_ Heart" (empha- sis added). I would presume that it _sounds_ essentially the same as the orig- inal, only better--which should reduce to manageable levels the risk that it will end up as the second part of thematic sets with the old show tune, "You Gotta Have Heart." :-) _In re_ Martin's comments on Deborah Blando: The song that alludes to justice is called "Innocence," and I consider it her second least worst song. Her least worst song, as I see it, is "Other People's Houses," and apparently has nothing to do with Paul Kelly. I actually think it would make a better video than "Innocence," and am surprised to learn (or at least interpret the posts of others, accurately or no) that it's the latter song that DB's first video is of. "Houses" is sort of a soft-core voyeuristic ode; I think it suggests itself as the third leg in a thematic set with Linda Ronstadt's cover of "Some- one to Watch Over Me" and the Police's "Every Breath You Take," respectively. Never being one to leave the discipline and profession of sociology out of things, I must confess that it also reminds me of the dictum of my field methods instructor back in 1977, that a sociologist must be something of a voyeur. :-) If I were producing a video of this song, I would probably build the diegetics (in the great words of Casey Stengel, you can look it up :-) ) around the phenomenon of high-rise residents doing fieldwork on each other through their telescopes. _In re_ Greg the Teasnarfer's last post: I am at once delighted and reassured that people are actually making sense out of that amorphous little essay I threw your way yesterday. Given the timing of its emergence from the server (after apparently incubating there all night long or close to it), it is poss- ible that some of you read it over breakfast. Is it possible that it made some of you snarf orange juice? It certainly would be appropriate if it did. After all, to paraphrase the great human rights basher Anita Bryant, a day without *O*RANGENSAFT is a day without sunshine. Never mind that we already got plenty sunshine out here, what we really need is rain. :-) Vickie made me a tape of the bonus cuts on the 1st4 CD's, and I can begin to understand the allure of paying out the premium for the pitted aluminum format. Even dubbed onto a 2-cent plain, low bias cassette, the sound quality is won- derful. The additional songs themselves likewise continue the high esthetic level we have come to expect from _HAPPY_ :-). Most notable, as I see it, are "Take Me With You," which foreshadows the Weillian and Brechtian influences manifested later in "Lay Me Down" and "Words Weren't Made For Cowards"; "Suicide Song," which showcases Happy's knack for lugubrious songs that don't _sound_ lugubrious; and "Look For The Child," which fits into the path of her musical evolution from the initial solo guitar accompaniment to the more elaborate arrangements of _Warpaint_. Last but least: Tomorrow (June 12) at 5 PM Chicago time is the deadline for entries to the No Show Awards competition sponsored by the Chicago Advertising Federation. The contest rules state that "Any layout, comp, storyboard, ani- matic, demo, roughcut, or even final produced piece can be submitted as long as it was created after 12/31/90 and it has never been published, broadcast, or entered into any other awards show. There are categories for Magazine, Newspaper, Direct Mail, Outdoor (including transit--might there be a place there for the ever-lovin' Toast Posties?), Television, Radio, Graphic Design (logos, letterheads, package design, &C.), Illustration/Photography, and Wild Card ("Good enough to enter, but too strange to categorize"). I believe that much of the potential Ecto Product advertising would fit well in the latter category. So you still have time to pull an all-nighter tonight (a skill that can make an $80,000 college education seem to have lasting positive value in retrospect :-) ), and come up with ad ideas for the fruits of our hypothetical industrial machine. There is one slight hitch, however: entry forms must be signed by an agency managing partner. Not to worry, how- ever: It would be my great pleasure to sign the entry forms for anything that any of you wish to submit. Mitch Pravatiner Managing Partner (if only by self-appointment) E. C. T. & O. Worldwide A.G., GmbH. ======================================================================== Date: 11 June 1992 14:54:46 CDT From: Subject: Good Taste in the Radio Industry WxRT in Chicago just came up with another newsletter, in which they list their recommendations of the best stations nationwide for the benefit of their vacationing listeners. In Philadelphia, their sole recommendation is WXPN. Now if XRT qould only follow the example of its endorsee and play Happy. Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 11 Jun 92 22:23:31 EDT From: jessica@hardees.rutgers.edu (jessica) Subject: hi from colorado!!!! HELLO! I'm in fort collins with Doug Burks! He's showing us some neat radar data, colorful pictures, all weather related. I'm just checking in real quick, I hope everything is going well! Doug has been telling me about all the talk about the CDs! I can't wait to read it all! I got to see them, at Doug's of course. First impression is NEAT NEAT NEAT!!!! joe and doug have been making fun of me being so excited :) Happy will be in philly saturday, and i'll actually be home in time to go down there! yay! Well, more when I get home. It's been a great vacation, but i'm looking forward to getting home and catching up! jessica ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 11 Jun 92 17:24:01 EDT From: Chris Sampson Subject: A_CASE_OF_MISTAKEN_IDENTITY Hello, [THIS WAS DELAYED AS SOME MAILER(S) ALONG THE WAY WON'T DELIVER IT FOR 3 (COUNT 'EM) DAYS] To Mitch (and, inevitably, to others...but, for now, primarily to Mitch) the posting regarding my concern that the posting regarding Electronic Fora would be out of date, by the time I got around to reading it....etc. This is CHRIS SAMPSON (not Chris, the woman with that name). HI :-) BTW my concern is that Electronic Fora won't be the hot topic of conversation by the time I get around....... I haven't been able to think of a pseudonym so as to avert future confusion....(cringe, cringe...) any suggestions? [I'm gonna regret that] For now, this is Chris Sampson, signing off....Good Day. ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is a README file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me (or leave in the incoming directory, just let me know) things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)