Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #250 ecto, Number 250 Monday, 1 June 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Graduations etc. Wine and Bread Passion (15) With this Love (12) White sands Troubled Sleep [tj@cs.ucla.edu (Tom Johnson): Re: Jeanne's poetry] More Sophie stoff, among other things A place to try out the ecto ads?, or: the No Show must go on ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: Graduations etc. Date: Mon, 01 Jun 92 11:41:00 EDT Hi, Graduations are weird events. They are great for the people who are getting out and into the 'real' world, but they are also sad because you never know when you'll see these friends again. 't was such a weekend here, since two very good friends of mine were getting out of MIT... :( (Truth is they had been here long enough already, so they couldn't wait to get out. :) ) Anyway! Alan signed off from Wuppertal by asking me if I had an extra copy of Eleftheria's CD. The answer is no, but I will be in Greece for a month this summer (assuming that the situation in the Balkan peninsula doesn't evolve to a grand scale war, in which case if I am there I will be forced to stop my studies and join the army :( ) and so I can buy some CD's for whoever is interested. (Note that CD's in Greece are mighty expensive ~$20 ). So, if there are any ectophiles interested in the Eleftheria Arvanitaki CD, or *any* kind of CD/Lp/Tape from Greece please contact me before July 19th. Almost quote of the day: 'Robert Smith of the Cure, was described by Aquarian weekly (?) as 'the male KaTe Bush'....' from PULSE! (I should post this to gaffa too! :) ) Angelos ------- 'Until you're crucified, I'll live my life in taxi cabs' ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 13:33:49 EDT From: jessica Subject: [tj@cs.ucla.edu (Tom Johnson): Re: Jeanne's poetry] This was meant to go to the list: -jessica --------------- Received: from Kona.CS.UCLA.EDU by hardees.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA29728; Mon, 1 Jun 92 12:34:05 EDT Received: by kona.cs.ucla.edu (Sendmail 5.61b+YP/3.17) id AA04857; Mon, 1 Jun 92 09:34:01 -0700 From: tj@cs.ucla.edu (Tom Johnson) Message-Id: <9206011634.AA04857@kona.cs.ucla.edu> Subject: Re: Jeanne's poetry To: jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 9:34:00 PDT In-Reply-To: <9206011430.AA07014@maurolycus.rutgers.edu>; from "jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu" at Jun 1, 92 10:30 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] >Greg wrote: > > just BTW, i think my favorite of the poems i have read is "Tom's Magic > Shell from Mexico" :) though there are many many beautiful ones... > Wow! That's my favorite too! I have a printout of it taped to the wall next to my desk. I'm not going to tell the story behind the poem--that's for Jeanne to do... so if you all flood her mailbox with email asking her to explain.... (shark@cs.ucla.edu).... > -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- As I sit here, meshed in a room full of memories > Mr Potatohead does his tongue in cheek routine > the days mold into time > clay figures in my adobe kiln, > > Firing thoughts. > -- JB Schreiter I just called her over and showed her you .signature, Greg...her eyes lit up and she blushed a deep red... Tom ps....look for some new stuff today....she was listening to PG's Passion last night and writing her heart out. ======================================================================== From: shark@cs.ucla.edu (Jeanne B. Schreiter) Subject: Wine and Bread Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 9:41:10 PDT Lately, I've been having a bit of writer's block. However, yesterday, that changed. This next block of poetry comes from the hearth, yes hearth, not heart (although that's in there too)..and the images that Peter Gabriel's album "Passion" brings me. If you look at the pieces, there'll be a number by them, that number corresponds to the song I was listening to at the time. A new kind of poetry..where the author tells you what song she was listening to at the time..if you want check the music and words at the same time. Just a thought. Wine and Bread (last) You poured the wine I cut the bread coarse alone together they melt like warm butter slowly smoothing themselves together. -JB Schreiter ======================================================================== From: shark@cs.ucla.edu (Jeanne B. Schreiter) Subject: Passion (15) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 9:45:39 PDT Passion (15) 5-31-1992 As our lips melt burning the darkness with searing lights bodies that entangle forms twisting tousling biting backing the animal instincts of rippling flesh tearing at the skin our souls bleeding into a togetherness and renewed energy We are one and three at this moment of birth his hands touch my belly in spirit her eyes brush by my womb giving sights we ourselves merge on giving the passion in cells the living whole. -JB Schreiter ======================================================================== From: shark@cs.ucla.edu (Jeanne B. Schreiter) Subject: With this Love (12) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 9:52:30 PDT With this love... (12) 5-31-1992 (unedited version) When our lips touch we have already made love When our eyes met in that dark room your children sparkled out before you and I cried feeling all the joy I have never known When our palms touch I see the lights that pour out of the skies tracing our fingers in delight As each note forms words meet and fall passionate in love cradled by the oceans and the snow swept mountains where gentle peaks form When I saw the laughter in your smile I wondered why I had not met you before and how lucky I am to be given this chance. There are petals of daisies reminding me of simple pleasures dandelions do well as well Each day when I tell you that I love you I mean it with every pore and fibre. I should hope that my flesh is buried before our time is due my tears would drown me in wake of you. -JB Schreiter ======================================================================== From: shark@cs.ucla.edu (Jeanne B. Schreiter) Subject: White sands Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 10:00:30 PDT White Sands (1) 5-31-1992 For Esteban, friends never grow away, friends are never distant, when we meet, we have never left. --- We sat and dined on Middle-Eastern food until our tongues bled fires from heaven Our hearts full off passion and serenity bellies gorged our sights deem with sleep >From the skies we proclaimed and the waters flowed down from the gutters brown and murky our squish of shoes insights of final times Last moments puddles in the sands of time I kissed your cheek farewell and we distanced ourselves in the dusk Words too few silence is unpleasant I miss you very much and I remember you fondly. -JB Schreiter ======================================================================== From: shark@cs.ucla.edu (Jeanne B. Schreiter) Subject: Troubled Sleep Date: Mon, 1 Jun 92 10:07:08 PDT Troubled Sleep 5-31-1992 I feel the beating of blood in my toes and in my finger- tips. Coursing through my veins likes the running of horses upon the plains Our wild manes flashing lightening hooves illuminesce in the pre-dawn sky. Gone are my surroundings only the winds beats at my back raw sliced through by your stinging whips and cheap chains Screaming aloud fo the coldness of the night my lips bleeding from your Virginian touch in my eyes, The rains fall seeping through the cracks in the hardwood floors All this in a few moments so real that I believe them when I turn and whisper to the warmth at my back and the gentle reply that returns with kisses "Are you alright?" Awakened by weeping My guard has no presence the body violated by dream rapes Each time I curse him away wishing an end to his haunting presence. -JB Schreiter ======================================================================== Date: 1 June 1992 13:52:21 CDT From: Subject: More Sophie stoff, among other things Last week, Valerie wrote: >so who is sophie b. hawkins anyway? The best answer I can think of to that: Stay tuned to the last several weeks of postings. A day or two earlier, Angelos wrote: >I wonder what B. stands for. The best answer I can think of to _that_, in turn: I don't know. However, it does, for some reason, remind me of the old _Dobie Gillis_ sitcom from the 50's (does Nick@Nite have that now? I don't know because I don't have cable), in which the G. in Maynard G. Krebs stood for William. Go figure. (About the sitcom, about me, or both, depending on your prediliction :-).) Now I have a question of my own in this genre. Yesterday, while browsing in a Coconuts record store, I very briefly eyeballed a leaflet touting the sale records for the month, one of which is _Tongues and Tales_. I cannot recall the exact language, but toward the end of the _T&T_ blurb it says something to the effect that Sophie B.'s artistic vision combines influences of New York (or else some other large, amorphous social entity) with those of her parents. Does anyone know anything about her parents? Are they supposed to be famous, or something? Turning (at last! :-)) to unrelated matters: today's the 25th anniversary of the release of the Beatles' album of _Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band_. This morning, NPR revealed that Paul first met Linda at the press party for the then-newly released platter. The major thread on comp-academic-freedom-talk these days has to do with the CBC's recent "expose" of "pornography by computer" on the alt.sex newsgroups in general and alt.sex.bondage in particular. Naturally, there is much concern about the potential for censorship of Usenet arising from all this. Some have called for the redirection of the stories most likely to incur the wrath of the moral entrepeneurs--viz., those that allude to rape and other "nonconsensual" sexual behaviors to a new "alt.sex.nonconsensual" or "alt.nonconsensual" group, on the assumption that it would then be bashed, and the others left alone. Which leads me to wondering along the following lines: If such a newsgroup caught on, and its readers held a convention, would it be likely to go by the name NONCONCON? :-) It further occurs to me that the battle, recounted in these pages last week, between the ecto-partygoers of Middletown and the BBQ fuel that would not burn it probably the closest that we've gotten to a good flame war within ecto. Mitch Pravatiner __________________________________________ "Can you do a concert in the same room where the espresso machine's running? I guess that's the question." --General sense or comment by Stuart Rosenberg on _The Earth Club_, WBEZ, 5/31/92 ======================================================================== Date: 1 June 1992 15:17:40 CDT From: Subject: A place to try out the ecto ads?, or: the No Show must go on Last week I received the following mass mailing from the Chicago Advertising Federation, which I am pleased to share with you in its entirety: DEATH HAS ITS MERITS (AND GOLDS AND BEST OF SHOW...) Just how many Gold Pencils, Clios or Addys do you have lying around your office in the form of old layouts, unused scripts and mind-blowing demos? Sure-fire award winners that never saw the light of day because some less than enlighten- ed individual killed the idea of the century? Well, now's the time for retri- bution. Gather up all that unproduced stuff you've been saving for another account and send it in to the 1st Annual CAF No Show Awards. But hurry. Entries close June 12, 1992. So start rummaging through the trash can, and pray the cleaners didn't make it to your office last night. Details and entry forms available by calling 312-861-7051. It seems to me that in theory, at least, since no ads for Ecto Products have ever been formally accepted by the client, this might be a place to get an award for such things as Angelos' jingle for Ecto Cooler, the Ecto-Shave signs that Greg thought up on one occasion, and whatever other creative work any of us wants to try throwing together in the sweet name of getting an award for this stuff. Realistically, I presume that this is meant for legitimate ads that were unsuccessfully proposed for legitimate products. On the other hand, they never say this in so many words.... :-) Mitch ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: Re: A place to try out the ecto ads?, or: the No Show must go on Date: Mon, 01 Jun 92 16:56:22 EDT Mitch writes: >It seems to me that in theory, at least, since no ads for Ecto Products have >ever been formally accepted by the client, this might be a place to get an >award for such things as Angelos' jingle for Ecto Cooler, the Ecto-Shave signs >that Greg thought up on one occasion, and whatever other creative work any of >us wants to try throwing together in the sweet name of getting an award for >this stuff. The first ecto-ad, has to be my 'Alice always uses Ecto (R) floss' ad/drawing, featuring Alice flossing and holding a box of Ecto (R) Monster floss, which has been seen by a handful of people, and is on its way to the home of Alice for approval (or total humiliation :) ).... A friend told me that the idea of Monster floss is not new, but the context of this particular one could qualify it... NOT! Angelos +=====================================+ |'My ears have parasites'-hApPy RhOdEs| +=====================================+ ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is a README file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me (or leave in the incoming directory, just let me know) things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)