11-Jun-91 3:19:25-GMT,1963;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08314; Mon, 10 Jun 91 23:19:20 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00585; Mon, 10 Jun 91 23:18:31 EDT Date: Mon, 10 Jun 91 23:18:31 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9106110318.AA00585@athos.rutgers.edu> To: REWOICC@erenj.bitnet, U15289@uicvm.bitnet, art@cs.sfu.ca, dembski@remus.rutgers.edu, dnb@meshugge.media.mit.edu, jeff@squ.dsg.ti.com, jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu, steiner@bakerst.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy Rhodes List #1 :) Cc: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Hello! So far, this is the list. I presume it will grow, a whole bunch of people i'm expecting haven't yet replied. (people like Steve VanDevender, David Gravender, Tom Johnson, C'n'V, mjm) But hopefully before they even do, we can come up with a name for the list. woj has suggested "ectoplasm" which seems to be appropriate :) Any one have more ideas? Please reply to everyone until we've got a name... Thanks! The Bad News is that I couldn't use the scanner today, but i should have no trouble getting time on it tomorrow, so hopefully by tomorrow afternoon I will let you know that GIFS of the 5 album covers are available. The Good News is that I've done up the lyrics to Rhodes Volume 1 in postscript, and the others will follow. It looks somewhat like this: ------------ | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | ------------ with the track listing, copyright info, and lyrics on it, nice and small (but readable, honest!). There are two sides, they are intended to be printed out, cut out, glued together, folded up, and kept in the cassette box. (as the README will tell you). It's available via anonymous ftp on athos.rutgers.edu in pub/hr/*. Let me know if you like them, and I'll do the other 3 cassettes. jessica 11-Jun-91 21:07:15-GMT,1211;000000000001 Received: from meshugge.media.mit.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA07097; Tue, 11 Jun 91 17:07:12 EDT Received: by meshugge.media.mit.edu (4.1/DA1.0.2) id AA23339; Tue, 11 Jun 91 17:13:11 EDT Date: Tue, 11 Jun 91 17:13:11 EDT From: David N. Blank Message-Id: <9106112113.AA23339@meshugge.media.mit.edu> To: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu's message of Mon, 10 Jun 91 23:18:31 EDT <9106110318.AA00585@athos.rutgers.edu> Subject: Happy Rhodes List #1 :) They're great, please do the rest! One suggestion, though: perhaps you could fit both sides on to one piece of paper that folds in or out, ie: ------------------------ | || | | || | | || | ------------------------ | || | | || | | || | ------------ ----------- | || | | || | | || | ------------ ------------ | || | | || | | || | ------------------------ Thanks again! Peace, dNb 11-Jun-91 21:32:11-GMT,1213;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09441; Tue, 11 Jun 91 17:32:07 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA29638; Tue, 11 Jun 91 17:31:04 EDT Date: Tue, 11 Jun 91 17:31:04 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9106112131.AA29638@athos.rutgers.edu> To: REWOICC@erenj.bitnet, U15289@uicvm.bitnet, art@cs.sfu.ca, awphili@cs.vu.nl, dembski@remus.rutgers.edu, dnb@meshugge.media.mit.edu, jeff@squ.dsg.ti.com, jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu, jessica@cs.rutgers.edu, lcliffor@cc7.bbn.com, steiner@bakerst.rutgers.edu Subject: pre-list Happy Rhodes message #2 dNb pointed out that i could fit both sides of the lyrics-thingy onto one page, and lo and behold, i sure can. (Yes i feel silly, for some reason i thought they didn't fit) So now there is just one file, it's on athos.rutgers.edu, in ~ftp/pub/hr/Rhodes.Volume.1.ps That should make things easier. I haven't heard any other suggestions for the name of the list. If there's no discussion about it by 9pm tonight, I'm going to call it "ectoplasm@athos.rutgers.edu". I'll send a message, and make a posting to r.m.g, when the time comes. :) jessica 13-Jun-91 5:39:09-GMT,1705;000000000011 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04914; Thu, 13 Jun 91 01:39:03 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA25609; Thu, 13 Jun 91 00:32:23 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Wed, 12 Jun 91 21:28:07 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA06296; Wed, 12 Jun 91 21:28:05 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.4) id ; Wed, 12 Jun 91 17:42 CDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 Jun 91 17:42 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: jessica@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: happy Thanks for offering to set up a Happy mailer....that would be sooo cool, but as Vickie, and I, and others believe that it might be prudent to overload gaffa with Happy stuff for as long as possible. Im telling you some people are just sooooo ignorant... By the way Vishal, who has been pissing me off to NO end, has informed me that he HAS ordered ALL of Happy's albums.....talk about hypocritical nonsense... Toodles for now....but one question before I leave...what's the feasibility of you traveling 6-8 hours to see Happy perform, Ive been trying to set something up with Happy and Kevin...and it may be in the fall in upstate n.y. Don't mention this to many people because it's only in the drawing stages....nothing definitive yet, but I was just wondering if we could get Happy fanaticals together to make it happen! Kirstin hargie@chinet.chi.il.us hargieka@clutx.clarkson.edu ----------------------------- "......Happy lunchbox?"....where, where, where...I want one (hehehe)! 13-Jun-91 18:58:43-GMT,1633;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA07189; Thu, 13 Jun 91 14:58:10 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11040; Thu, 13 Jun 91 14:58:06 EDT Date: Thu, 13 Jun 91 14:58:06 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9106131858.AA11040@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ectoplasm@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Tada! (I hope :) Ok, here's my first experimental posting to this list. Vickie suggested ecto, but a bit late i'm afraid, it's already been called "ectoplasm" but at least that's pretty close! So our address is "ectoplasm@athos.rutgers.edu" and for signing up, etc, there is ectoplasm-request@athos.rutgers.edu I'll put *something* of possible interest in this posting, in case anyone doesn't already know. I've made a lyrics sheet for Rhodes Volume 1. It's on athos.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr/Rhodes.Volume.1.ps. I managed to fit both sides onto one page, *but* you probably shoudn't just cut out the outline and fild it in half - at least on our laserprinters, the black printing of the line down the middle cracks and comes right off in little flecks, very messy. So i'd suggest cutting it down the middle too, it shouldn't make much difference as you'll glue it together anyway. :) Lyrics sheets for the other three tapes will be coming.. RSN :) So anyway, welcome to the list! so far, we are: myself, Dave Steiner, Joseph Dembski, Jeff Burka, David N. Blank, art, Mitch Pravatiner, woj, Jeff Abbott, Albert Philipsen, Laura Clifford, Vickie, Jorn Barger, and hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (feel free to send me your name, if you want :) jessica 13-Jun-91 20:03:27-GMT,2207;000000000001 Received: from TI.COM by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16170; Thu, 13 Jun 91 16:02:27 EDT Received: from [128.247.160.56] by ti.com id AA17916; Thu, 13 Jun 91 15:03:59 -0500 Received: from axis.dsg.ti.com by tilde id AA26826; Thu, 13 Jun 91 15:03:25 -0500 Received: from sqa.dsg.ti.com by axis.dsg.ti.com with SMTP (5.59/LAI-3.2) id AA20361; Thu, 13 Jun 91 15:04:57 CDT Received: by sqa.dsg.ti.com (5.59/LAI-3.2) id AA21171; Thu, 13 Jun 91 15:01:18 CDT From: jeff@sqa.dsg.ti.com (jeff abbott (TB02)) Message-Id: <9106132001.AA21171@sqa.dsg.ti.com> Subject: Happy Discussions To: ectoplasm@cs.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 13 Jun 91 15:01:16 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.2 PL16] Hi Y'all: Jessica, thanks for setting up the mailing list. I appreciate your effort. Vickie, I thought your posting about the Happy controversy in gaffa was well-done. You asked in that posting what other folks who had posted positive reviews of Happy's music thought of her other works. So far, I've only heard _Rhodes Vol 1_. I still haven't ordered the other albums - I went on a spree and spent this month's CD budget on jazz and classical. Soon though, I'll be ordering the others. It was reported that KGSR in Austin has the _Warpaint_ CD. I'd like to call in and request something off of it, but since I don't have the CD, I don't know the songs. Would y'all make some suggestions? Perhaps whatever is the most (I hate to use this word, but) approachable song on the CD? KGSR plays material from Kate's Hounds of Love and The Sensual World albums, so if there's something along those lines. . . (yes, I know Happy's not a Kate clone, I'm just trying to give y'all an idea of what music they play. . .) I appreciate whatever suggestion y'all can give. P. S. This is a dumb question, but it's sure to be asked. Is Happy Happy's real name, or a family nickname? It almost seems funny, considering the dark mood of some of her songs and the mental struggles Vickie has alluded to. Just curious. Still Happy in Texas, Jeff -- Jeff Abbott Texas Instruments, Inc. 512-250-4323 Internet Jeff.Abbott@hub.dsg.ti.com TI MSG %TB02@hub.dsg.ti.com "Know your heart through and through" _ Happy Rhodes 13-Jun-91 20:23:03-GMT,1396;000000000011 Received: from casbah.acns.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20514; Thu, 13 Jun 91 16:22:55 EDT Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by casbah.acns.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-ACNS-1.03) id AA29115; Thu, 13 Jun 91 15:21:40 CDT Return-Path: Received: from GUESSWHO (mac132.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA03436; Thu, 13 Jun 91 15:20:59 CDT Date: Thu, 13 Jun 91 15:20:59 CDT From: barger@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9106132020.AA03436@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: ectoplasm@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: From Vickie Vickie here (by dictation): Great day for Happy! I'm very very very pleased. I've got _so_ much to contribute-- all the posts that never appeared on gaffa I'll put in "Ecto"! My contributions will be sporadic until we get back on the net regularly, but we do get our email on a fairly regular basis, so I'll keep up with what's going on. Any important info will be relayed through Jorn, so I can try to keep it timely. Any MAJOR info will be posted in gaffa... Thank you all for supporting Happy, and... [speechless fumblings] this is only the beginning! Two tidbits: Happy is her real name, her middle name is Tyler. Her birthday is August 9, 1965. Much, much more to come!!! Jessica: Bless your heart! (Since my posts do tend to ramble on, can your software handle long posts?) 13-Jun-91 22:33:29-GMT,1383;000000000201 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05923; Thu, 13 Jun 91 18:33:23 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13603; Thu, 13 Jun 91 18:33:21 EDT Date: Thu, 13 Jun 91 18:33:21 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9106132233.AA13603@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ectoplasm@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: favorites I still havne't heard ecto, but from all the rest i think "the wretches gone awry" is my favorite. I tihnk warpaint is my favorite album, in that there isn't a single song on it that i'd skip over, but I find myself listening to volume 1 and rearmament the most. I'd say the songs that strike me the most and make me want to put them on right away again are: "the perfect irony" "I am a legend" (my theme song *large*grin*) "rainkeeper" "oh the drears" "Given In" "Possessed" "step inside" "the wretches gone awry" (and all of warpaint) ------------------------- I tihnk Vickie mentioned in a posting that happy can not read or write music. Is that true? I tihnk it's amazing that someone who can create such wonderful music would not know much about music theory (It make me wonder if it makes any difference at all, all this studying i am doing !:) I've just spent another hour dealing with GIF stuff. I'm *still* not quite ready! I'll send a message when they're done. jessica 14-Jun-91 4:06:12-GMT,5329;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11174; Fri, 14 Jun 91 00:05:34 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA09950; Thu, 13 Jun 91 23:09:47 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Thu, 13 Jun 91 21:00:25 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA02282; Thu, 13 Jun 91 21:00:24 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.4) id ; Thu, 13 Jun 91 20:36 CDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Jun 91 20:36 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ectoplasm@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Prelim. thoughts about Vol. I Ive been saying for some time now that I would post to gaffa reactions to each of the albums, now that we have this wonderful mailing list, and now that I have actually gotten the gumption to wrtie reactions here it comes: Rainkeeper: Classical style guitar intermingles with an ever changing vocal background. Happy maneouvers her voice in a continual succession of hi's and low's to create a quality that sounds like the tap, tap of raindrops. The Rainkeeper is the holder of tears, it/he/she deals them out in a mixture of emotions. A deep song, heavy, and wet. Oh the Drears: Jokingly nicknamed by myself (the Punctual Drears)....Nevertheless the echoing voices call out from the deep with a sudden intrusion by the guitar, and then the keyboards bounce in...by now you're jumping up and down the rather with pure unbridled emotion. "Such a strain to find the strength within" INDEED! This is personally my favi song. The poking synths and stabbing low guitar let you feel the Drears. Given In: 007 theme song guitar picking, the theme is drawn out but definitely there. Whether Happy did this on purpose or was completely unintentional has yet to be determined! The backing vocals (hereafter bv's) display the harshness of reality - low singing. A song about life, and it's ups and downs, soul-searching, ??, and discovering the strength within which are in many ways holding back the drears. Uhhh ahh aaaa! He's Alive: Vocals introduce synth keyboards. A spooky song. Conveys an almost helpless/saddened but emotional response. Some interesting vocals always straining for that higher control, as he takes the breath away just from the thought. Astrological and spacey synth background. Is it a dream or reality? But he's alive so he must be real. Possessed: OO don't hate me - great guitar piece, great lyrics, bv's fun song makes me want to dance. I could listen to over and over and never understand. The music is pure genius. My mind screams to be free of what possesses me. Ill Let You Go: Again fantastic guitar piece with vocals tipping towards the ethereal. But the strong beat of the bass strings of the guitar are amazing. Excellent harmonies. Releasing the drears?/ Number One: Simple guitar with floating voice from hi --> low. A sad song rift with emotion, and guilt. A song of forgiveness, love, and caring. Chorus is beautifully done Happy in tone - faster with you by my side. Case of Glass: Synth intro in background, higher foreground building hi voice joins in. Wanting to keep her most cherished item (person) safe and tucked away from the evils. Is she trying to keep the monsters out with an impenetrable case of glass? Moonbeam Friends: In/and out guitar - peepoopeepoo. Telling a secret in a childs voice lyrics, but more intelligent. Whoops! The lunar friends have to check lyrics continually touched by the good things - in a lot of ways it sounds like a trip (lsd) but in a good way. Seems lyrically exorcising evils. INAINA: Synth intro. Dark and brooding. This song would be really neat if it were orchestrated. Low voices with hi bv's. Dreamy. The drears hidden in the background, acknowledged and confronting them. The First to Cry: Guitar - again a sad song almost self- degrading. "Why couldn't someone cry for me..." Obviously lonely - a plea for help in the past. Was anyone listening?? The first pulling in - hiding away from an uncaring world. Mournful guitar - barely singing it's way along with Happy. Step Inside: Good guitar beat with glitching synth. Another bounching song. Stepping out into the uncaring world and taking a look back inside, and cleaning out the cobwebs, but being outside is unsafe, and inside is sticky, and if you're not careful it's scary. WIthout guidance perhaps not too good. So is it safer inside the mind or on the outside looking in, but not understanding?? A kind os swapping of places to catch those emotions buried in those misty lobes. The Wretches Gone Awry: Guitar hi harmonies. The drears, and demons empty into that unsafe world. But she can see them for what they are, maybe to teach, indeed you can be kind, and stay hidden. She's so lucky she can see and understand how nebulous our world is, and how bloddy important it actually isn't! The wretches are more important, cause they've gone awry, but arn't gone! Well that's it....hope we've all learned something...but then these are just my thoughts. VOl. I is perhaps the most raw Happy album emotionally, but I love iT! Kirstin hargie@chinet.chi.il.us hargieka@clutx.clarkson.edu 14-Jun-91 16:10:54-GMT,1503;000000000001 Received: from accuvax.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08132; Fri, 14 Jun 91 12:10:32 EDT Received: from silver.chem.nwu.edu by accuvax.nwu.edu (5.65+/1.34) id AA13250; Fri, 14 Jun 91 11:10:16 -0500 Received: from stella.chem.nwu.edu by silver.chem.nwu.edu (5.52/90.5.1.SDD) (for ectoplasm@athos.rutgers.edu) id AA08939; Fri, 14 Jun 91 09:32:06 CDT Received: by chem.nwu.edu (1.1/901020.SDD) (for @silver.chem.nwu.edu:ectoplasm@athos.rutgers.edu) id AA02528; Fri, 14 Jun 91 09:32:04 CDT Date: Fri, 14 Jun 91 09:32:04 CDT From: stern@chem.nwu.edu (Charlotte Stern) Message-Id: <9106141432.AA02528@chem.nwu.edu> To: ectoplasm@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: transcriptions Cc: stern@chem.nwu.edu As some of you know, I have been sending transcriptions of gaffa stuff to Happy... yesterday I sent off over 7000 lines of stuff (including all the lyrics). Someone should do the same thing for this group, although it will be alot easier since everything here is relevant to her (I had to syphon out all that Kate crap :-). Anyways, perhaps Jessica is the best to do this, since she has all the stuff there, I presume. OK. Now for a question... who is reminded of Joni Mitchell when they here Moonbeam Friends? Especially when she sings "blue", it sounds just like what Joni M. does with her voice. BTW, are there any JM fans out there? I know Vickie, champion of all female voices, is not that warm to her... is this true of most kate/happy fans? I like JM alot. -mjm 14-Jun-91 16:13:36-GMT,627;000000000001 Received: from meshugge.media.mit.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08516; Fri, 14 Jun 91 12:13:25 EDT Received: by meshugge.media.mit.edu (4.1/DA1.0.2) id AA27129; Fri, 14 Jun 91 12:19:12 EDT Date: Fri, 14 Jun 91 12:19:12 EDT From: David N. Blank Message-Id: <9106141619.AA27129@meshugge.media.mit.edu> To: stern@chem.nwu.edu Cc: ectoplasm@athos.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: Charlotte Stern's message of Fri, 14 Jun 91 09:32:04 CDT <9106141432.AA02528@chem.nwu.edu> Subject: transcriptions > BTW, are there any JM fans out there? At least one! Peace, dNb 14-Jun-91 16:46:36-GMT,861;000000000001 Received: from casbah.acns.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11974; Fri, 14 Jun 91 12:45:51 EDT Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by casbah.acns.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-ACNS-1.03) id AA23459; Fri, 14 Jun 91 11:43:27 CDT Return-Path: Received: from GUESSWHO (mac132.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA11697; Fri, 14 Jun 91 11:42:27 CDT Date: Fri, 14 Jun 91 11:42:27 CDT From: barger@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9106141642.AA11697@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: ectoplasm@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: transcriptions > >> BTW, are there any JM fans out there? > >At least one! Two... pre-(my-knowledge-of-)Kate, Blue->Mingus, Joni was definitely God! The theory I tend towards is she lost her spark when she got hitched. I find Night Ride Home pretty forgettable. 14-Jun-91 18:19:58-GMT,1033;000000000001 Received: from casbah.acns.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA24115; Fri, 14 Jun 91 14:19:46 EDT Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by casbah.acns.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-ACNS-1.03) id AA00157; Fri, 14 Jun 91 13:19:35 CDT Return-Path: Received: from GUESSWHO (mac132.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA12911; Fri, 14 Jun 91 13:18:34 CDT Date: Fri, 14 Jun 91 13:18:34 CDT From: barger@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9106141818.AA12911@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: favorites (From Vickie) [Ineptly transcribed by Jorn, from V] >I tihnk Vickie mentioned in a posting that happy >can not read or write music. Is that true? No she can't, the story is that we were talking about the piano part in "In Hiding" and I told her how beautiful I thought it was, and she told me she put the keyboard part on casssette and gave it to Martha Waterman and she played it note for note exactly as Happy "wrote" it... 14-Jun-91 20:40:29-GMT,737;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13926; Fri, 14 Jun 91 16:39:38 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA06412; Fri, 14 Jun 91 16:39:34 EDT Date: Fri, 14 Jun 91 16:39:34 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9106142039.AA06412@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ectoplasm@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: GIFs I have had a very hectic day, and I can't remember if I told everyone about the GIFs yet or not. Just in case i didn't, they are on athos in the directory ~ftp/pub/hr/ volume.1 and volume.2 didn't come out very well, i'll have to try doing them again. I hope this wasn't a repost. if it was, i'm sorry :) but better twice than not at all :) jessica 14-Jun-91 20:57:59-GMT,677;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16260; Fri, 14 Jun 91 16:57:36 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA06528; Fri, 14 Jun 91 16:57:20 EDT Date: Fri, 14 Jun 91 16:57:20 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9106142057.AA06528@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ectoplasm@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: oh yeah :) i also wanted to say that today I finally heard "ecto" and i *love* the song "ecto" itself. really neat. I heard it in my car, so i can't say too much, (if you ever have the pleasure of meeting my care, you'll understand) but i can't wait to hear that song on a real stereo. jessica 15-Jun-91 0:32:43-GMT,861;000000000001 Received: from omnigate.clarkson.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09807; Fri, 14 Jun 91 20:32:21 EDT Received: from pebbles.sct.clarkson.edu by omnigate.clarkson.edu id aa18512; 14 Jun 91 19:19 EDT Date: Fri, 14 Jun 91 19:19:01 EST From: your furry bees To: ectoplasm@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: joni similarities Organization: fegmaniax anonymous, inc. Message-Id: <9106142019.aa02679@pebbles.sct.clarkson.edu> heh. happy's vocals almost all remind me of joni (except for the high parts). i didn't say that in my recent review on gaffa though cos i knew i'd get flack from vickie if is did. :) update: _warpaint_ is growing on me like *fungus*. :) i'm still not convinced that happy is an "important artist", but i like her work (or at least all that i've heard) a lot anyways. woj 15-Jun-91 21:50:21-GMT,1944;000000000001 Received: from casbah.acns.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08621; Sat, 15 Jun 91 17:49:42 EDT Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by casbah.acns.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-ACNS-1.03) id AA21441; Sat, 15 Jun 91 16:49:40 CDT Return-Path: Received: from GUESSWHO (mac132.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA20234; Sat, 15 Jun 91 16:48:30 CDT Date: Sat, 15 Jun 91 16:48:30 CDT From: barger@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9106152148.AA20234@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: ectoplasm@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: A quick Hi! Vickie here. I'm at Jorn's with Chris and Kirsten. We've been sitting around listening to Vol. I and Rearmament. Very nice. I've got a ton of things to send along within the next few days. Besides all my posts that were sent but never appeared in gaffa, I have a copy of Happy's bio and an article that appeared in the Albany newspaper a couple of weeks ago. Jessica, are you starting an archive? I have posts from gaffa dating back to January of 1990. I still have lots to retrieve, but have most of the ones from April, May and June (so far) of this year. Would you be interested in them? Since soon (hopefully) reviews will start coming in from lots of places, a seperate file for reviews could be made. We only have the one for Warpaint now, but soon.... I've told Happy about everything that's happened in gaffa and even read her some of the posts. We talked quite a while and she's very understanding about the whole thing. Happy is very appreciative of what you're doing, Jessica. I am too. You're an angel! More (much, much) more later.. Vickie (one of Vickie'n'Chris) katefans@chinet.chi.il.us PS- Lest people misunderstand, I don't dislike Joni Mitchell. I honestly have the highest respect and admiration for her. I've just never gotten into her music. "And the wretches have gone awry I saw them walk on by" 16-Jun-91 15:08:33-GMT,1545;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00799; Sun, 16 Jun 91 11:08:22 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13917; Sun, 16 Jun 91 11:08:20 EDT Date: Sun, 16 Jun 91 11:08:20 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9106161508.AA13917@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ectoplasm@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: albany I'm going to be in albany next sunday for my cousin's bridal shower... Do you think it's even remotely possible that I could see Happy? I would *love* to meet her! i could easily go into albany on saturday, or stay until monday. vickie: i'm keeping everything posted here, and i'll be mailing prinouts of it to Happy every week or so. I have some of the original posts from gaffa, but i have no idea if i have them all, if you'd like, mail them to me, and i'll make sure everything is organized. (I think happy has already seen the posts to gaffa, so i won't mail them to her, just the stuff that comes here) Other Stuff: My friend Nelson is a DJ in mid-upstate new york (about an hour and a half from albany, actually) at a "classic rock" sort of station (He goes by "Mark Nelson" on the air, he does the morning show). Anyway, he is here visitng this weekend so I played Warpaint for him, and he said he did like it, but that from a business point of view, he'd suggest to Happy that she have more of a varied sound on the cd. But he said there was no reason at all that she shouldn't have a recording contract and be doing fairly well :) jessica 17-Jun-91 13:42:00-GMT,635;000000000001 Received: from meshugge.media.mit.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16281; Mon, 17 Jun 91 09:41:45 EDT Received: by meshugge.media.mit.edu (4.1/DA1.0.2) id AA27693; Mon, 17 Jun 91 09:47:51 EDT Date: Mon, 17 Jun 91 09:47:51 EDT From: David N. Blank Message-Id: <9106171347.AA27693@meshugge.media.mit.edu> To: ectoplasm@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy ever live? Out of curiosity, does anyone know if Happy will ever tour live, or will she follow in Kate Bush's footsteps to date (ie. one tour in her entire career, and that one is Europe only)? Peace, dNb 17-Jun-91 17:47:05-GMT,701;000000000001 Received: from BBN.COM by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA12355; Mon, 17 Jun 91 13:46:48 EDT Message-Id: <9106171746.AA12355@aramis.rutgers.edu> Received: from CC7.BBN.COM by BBN.COM id aa20701; 17 Jun 91 13:45 EDT Date: Mon, 17 Jun 91 13:37:36 EDT From: Laura Clifford Subject: Happy/Joni To: ectoplasm@athos.rutgers.edu I also must say that I think Happy sounds a lot more like Joni Mitchell than Kate. In fact, I 'got into' Joni through LoveHounds when Joni's 'Dog Eat Dog' was said to sound as if she had been listening to Kate... So far, only have heard Rhodes Vol. I and Warpaint, however...the middle three should be arriving any day now. Laura 17-Jun-91 18:19:23-GMT,819;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16604; Mon, 17 Jun 91 14:19:18 EDT Received: from M66-305-1.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA12264; Mon, 17 Jun 91 14:19:16 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by m66-305-1.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA00811; Mon, 17 Jun 91 14:19:13 -0400 Message-Id: <9106171819.AA00811@m66-305-1.MIT.EDU> To: ectoplasm@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Philip Glass influences? Date: Mon, 17 Jun 91 14:19:10 EDT Hi, Is it just me or do some of the synth patterns in Happy's songs (see Alice arise for example) have a repetitive simplistic structure reminiscent of Philip Glass? Angelos (liking Vol.1 more every day) +=====================================+ |'My ears have parasites'-hApPy RhOdEs| +=====================================+ 17-Jun-91 19:13:52-GMT,961;000000000001 Received: from casbah.acns.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA22835; Mon, 17 Jun 91 15:13:44 EDT Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by casbah.acns.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-ACNS-1.03) id AA10975; Mon, 17 Jun 91 14:13:42 CDT Return-Path: Received: from GUESSWHO (mac131.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA04419; Mon, 17 Jun 91 14:12:23 CDT Date: Mon, 17 Jun 91 14:12:22 CDT From: barger@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9106171912.AA04419@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: ectoplasm@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Happy ever live? > >Out of curiosity, does anyone know if Happy will ever tour live, or >will she follow in Kate Bush's footsteps to date (ie. one tour in her >entire >career, and that one is Europe only)? Vickie says she has nothing against touring, just lacks the $$$. Though she is a "homebody" and very shy... She's never heard Happy mention Philip Glass... 17-Jun-91 19:58:05-GMT,945;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA27421; Mon, 17 Jun 91 15:57:34 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA07726; Mon, 17 Jun 91 15:57:26 EDT Date: Mon, 17 Jun 91 15:57:24 EDT From: jessica To: ectoplasm@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: hi! Message-Id: We've gotten a lot of new people lately! The list currently totals 26 people. For the new people - there are gifs and lyrics sheets (ok, sheet, but there *will* be sheets) on athos.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr/ jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 18-Jun-91 2:35:42-GMT,761;000000000001 Received: from phloem.uoregon.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA06996; Mon, 17 Jun 91 22:35:23 EDT Received: from greylady.uoregon.edu by phloem.uoregon.edu (4.1/UofO NetSvc-05/01/91) id AA01333; Mon, 17 Jun 91 19:35:16 PDT Received: by greylady.uoregon.edu (5.60/SMI-4.0.1.2(JQJ)) id AA01624; Mon, 17 Jun 91 19:33:49 PDT Date: Mon, 17 Jun 91 19:33:49 PDT From: stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Message-Id: <9106180233.AA01624@greylady.uoregon.edu> To: ectoplasm@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: New albums (for me, anyway), oh boy oh boy! I got _Rearmament_ and _Ecto_ today, along with an autographed "Warpaint" postcard from Happy. Haven't had a chance to listen yet, but I intend to later this evening. More after that. 18-Jun-91 6:26:23-GMT,1271;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08409; Tue, 18 Jun 91 02:26:07 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA05662; Tue, 18 Jun 91 02:03:13 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 17 Jun 91 19:30:43 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA15242; Mon, 17 Jun 91 19:30:41 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.4) id ; Mon, 17 Jun 91 19:16 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 17 Jun 91 19:16 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ectoplasm@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: some happy trivia For those interested in bizarre happy trivia :) Happy has three cats Xena, Shorty, and Barney Parker. The song "Terra Incognita" is about Barney Parker. Hmmm the song seems to make a lot more sense seen from a cat's eye! Happy says she can't disclose the name of the cat in "No One Here" because "His record company never officially gave him permission to appear on another label's release, so he must remain anonymous." look for reactions to volume 2 coming soon.... Kirstin Hargie hargie@chinet.chi.il.us hargieka@clutx.clarkson.edu 18-Jun-91 16:34:04-GMT,684;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09529; Tue, 18 Jun 91 12:33:48 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04668; Tue, 18 Jun 91 12:33:45 EDT Date: Tue, 18 Jun 91 12:33:45 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9106181633.AA04668@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: new address Ok, due to popular demand, *grin*, the name of the list is now shortened to "ecto". The machine is the same, so we are now ecto@athos.rutgers.edu. The ectoplasm address will still work for about a week, then i'll be turning it off. I'll be announcing "ecto" to the "list of lists" people. jessica 19-Jun-91 4:06:02-GMT,2798;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA29611; Wed, 19 Jun 91 00:05:08 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA12256; Tue, 18 Jun 91 22:20:25 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 18 Jun 91 19:54:51 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA06920; Tue, 18 Jun 91 19:54:48 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.4) id ; Tue, 18 Jun 91 15:08 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Jun 91 15:08 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) To: ectoplasm@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: New news Vickie here. This is current, believe it or not! OK, current as of this writing. When it will be mailed is another story... I relayed through Jorn a message to this group, but now I want to say it myself: Jessica, **THANK YOU SO MUCH** for starting this mailing list. I feel so much better about everything now. I was so very, very depressed when the backlash started happening. It was horrible knowing that I caused it to erupt with the lyrics posts. I still think that people had plenty of warning and could have said something in advance. I would have thought twice about it. I don't think anyone said anything after the first set of lyrics (and my long post about the lyrics) appeared and there was quite a few days gap between the two sets of lyrics. Not one word was said to my knowledge. It seems now that plenty was said via e-mail, but I never saw or heard of anything (Jorn keeps me pretty up-to-date) negative "in public". Oh well! I do hope that posts about Happy continue to appear in Love-Hounds, just so new readers know about her, but having this list is great too because now we can say anything we want and not get flamed. I tend to ramble on when I get in the mood (it's a horrible habit) and I have virtually no self-editing powers. It's gotten me in trouble in the past and no doubt will again in the future, but at least here I feel fairly safe to say as much as I want. Especially since it's about Happy! The mood swings I've gone through have been tremendous. From estatic euphoria at you all discovering her and saying wonderful things about her, to feeling deep depression (even going on crying jags) at the nastiness and intolerance of late, back to estatic euphoria at the formation of this mailing list... I'm exhausted! I have yet to type in the bio and the article. RSN...I promise. Just as Happy's music never gets tiresome, I will never get tired of hearing people say nice things about such a nice woman and her very, very, very nice music. Let the gushing begin....! Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 19-Jun-91 4:20:01-GMT,5894;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04738; Wed, 19 Jun 91 00:19:51 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA12252; Tue, 18 Jun 91 22:20:27 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 18 Jun 91 19:54:48 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA06917; Tue, 18 Jun 91 19:54:45 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.4) id ; Tue, 18 Jun 91 15:06 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Jun 91 15:06 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) To: ectoplasm@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Better late than never #4 Yet another.... See, I really was busy at the keyboard. Shall I tell you how frustrating it's been to be off the net at this particular time? I shall. AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! Check out the first line. HA! That'll date this post! --------------------------------------------------------------- Vickie here. Thanks for your patience at the multiple long posts. Please, someone, edit my header and post Happy's lyrics in rec.music.misc, along with a explanation of who Happy Rhodes is. Please, please pleae keep a thread going for as long as possible. I'm DYING beause I can't be part of it. Please someone save these threads for me and e-mail them to me. I'm keeping every Happy-related post on a disc I named "Happytalk" - this will be quite a treasure in the years to come. The "awakening of awareness". I'm overjoyed while reading these things!! I'm forever indebted to those of you who cared enough to post your reactions and comments, thus starting and continuing the interest. Please someone post the Metroland review of _Warpaint_ in .misc as part of the Happythread. GOD I LOVED THAT REVIEW!!!! It was PERFECT! If all of the sure-to-come reviews are even half that good....... Kevin & I are trying to get reviews in as many places as possible and some are sure to start appearing at some point here. Anyone who happens to see Happy written about ANYWHERE, in any context, PLEASE post it and pick up extra copies for Happy (& me :-) because she needs things to put into future presskits. Kevin worked up a bio that I'll type in for the next deluge. It's funny, in it, a fan club is mentioned and I immediately called Happy and said "You've got a FAN CLUB???? How do I join?" She took the phone away from her ear and hollered out to Kevin, "You said I have a fan club?" I guess she hadn't read it :-) Indistinct voice... she came back on and said "Oh, well, the fan club is you" ! I'm so pleased! Happy is writing songs for her 6th album already. God knows when it will come about. They are very seriously in debt from _Warpaint_ and are struggling to pay the bills. When I talked to Happy last week she said she couldn't talk very long because she had to go to a part-time job. I asked her what she was doing and she was filling in for someone at a place she used to work full time. They call her whenever they need someone. It was at a housewares store and she joked that "I get to put on a blue apron and talk about spatulas!" How sad. Imagine Kate working at Woolworths, as she once joked about doing! They are absolutely over- whelmed at the support coming from Love-Hounds. They send their gratitude and thanks and very best wishes to you all. "There's a growing force of people who care/In all the years of struggle it seems we're making way" was written for you who bought the cassettes in the past year and a half, and continues to mean those Love-Hounds who are just now discovering her. I'm so pleased at the comments I'm hearing. Especially the comments about listening to Happy over and over again. YES!!! That's one of the many wonderful things about her music. If it really were as "simple" as it appeared on the surface, you wouldn't feel the desire to keep listening. Yet the songs grow on you and once they are ingrained in your brain, they never get old, they never get tiresome, they never stop being fascinating. I speak from experience. I've had the tapes for over two and a half years and I can (AND DO!!!) still listen to any one of the tapes over and over and over again. Ten times in a row if I feel like it. I often feel like it. Getting the lyrics started a whole new round of discovering songs. These songs invite you to "become friends" and settle into your psyche forever. Happy's manager has been seeing record company people all this week. SBK Records were very supportive and seemed to really like Happy, but they already have a solo female artist and are gearing up to seriously push her next album. That artist is Wendy Wall, who I like VERY much and I'm happy to hear about the new album. Her first self-titled album died and it was a real shame. One of her songs has been one of my "unofficial" theme songs since I first heard it. The song is "A Woman's Voice" and it fits my philosophy perfectly. (btw, the others are kd lang's "Tune Into My Wave" (the mental wavelength) and "Be Kind To My Mistakes" ('cos I make a lot! :-)) Anyway, I don't know who told SBK they couldn't have more than one interesting, intelligent female artist on their roster, but apparently someone did. I guess there's a quota, huh? Today Happy's manager had a meeting with Atlantic Records and I'll relay through Michael or Jorn their reactions when I hear what happened. Another possibility is a new label called Imago. [UPDATE--nothing's come of either meeting. Pooh!] Thanks again and please accept my heartiest welcome to all the new people in the group. We'll be back on line regularly at some point here, when we can. All the love... Vickie (one of Vickie'n'Chris) "We're waking up, yes it's good" Happy Rhodes 19-Jun-91 4:23:56-GMT,6928;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05252; Wed, 19 Jun 91 00:23:28 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA12249; Tue, 18 Jun 91 22:20:29 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 18 Jun 91 19:54:45 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA06914; Tue, 18 Jun 91 19:54:41 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.4) id ; Tue, 18 Jun 91 15:04 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Jun 91 15:04 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) To: ectoplasm@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Better late than never #3 Yet another post that disappeared into the void... It's ironic that in this post I referred to the covers question in one of the "four month old" posts. Of course, the interview I refer to *won't* be appearing in Love-Hounds. It will appear here. ------------------------------------- Vickie here. More re Happy.... In case anyone's wondering, "Happy" is her real, parent-given name. Her middle name is Tyler. ---- Re her album covers, I & II especially. Jeff wrote awile back: >> a) the leaflets credit Happy with the cover art. One of the photos >> looks like it may just be a massively unfocused close-up of a face. >> The other three appear to be paintings. Am I to assume that Happy is >> a visual artist as well--did she paint these? (I particularly like the >> _Vol. I_ cover) I answered: > Yes, she painted the covers of Vol. I & II. Yes, Rearmament is a photo. > It's Happy. I think Ecto is a photo too, I can't remember the details > about it. I & II are "demons that lurk." Oooooh, and scary demons they are too. I have to admit that I've torn off the covers of the tapes I carry around with me (at ALL times!) because they're just too disturbing. I take out my "unaltered" covers every now and then and look at them. I get chills and I start to shake at the thought of what Happy's been through. I put them away and go listen to "Ode" to set my mind at ease. I've always wondered what would happen if I sent _Vols. I & II_ to _Heavy Metal_ or _Fangoria_ magazines to review! Alas, they're too precious to part with for a simple experiment, one that would probably get them thrown away after 30 seconds of "Rainkeeper"....oh well. Then again, maybe they'd hire her to do artwork for them! I never did finish this. The _Ecto_ cover is also a painting by Happy. The original is in color. It wasn't painted specifically for _Ecto_. I told Happy once that it looked like Steve Hackett and she found that amusing. She knew who he was. Hey, I was reminded of the cover of Steve's album _Spectral Mornings_, what can I say :-) Happy told me that she regards monsters as her friends. She had a very lonely childhood and painting monsters helped get her through some very difficult times. Her favorite films are _Alien_ and _Aliens_. "I can love with all my heart the wretches gone awry". The monsters on I & II weren't painted specifically for those covers. They were ones she'd already painted and she just chose them because she needed to put something on the front of the cassettes. ---- Jane Siberry fans...take notice! She has two new fans. I sent tapes of Jane's albums to Happy and Kevin and they've become fans! The first song Happy heard was "Waitress" and she said she cracked up. Happy knows a LOT about waitressing! ---- Some of Happy's own favorite songs on the first three: "Given In" "I'm Not Awake, I'm Not Asleep" "Because I Learn" "Crystal Orbs" and "Dreams Are" I'm always glad to hear things like that. We talked about her attitude toward her early songs and she knows how I feel. Mainly, that it would be tragic if she ever turned against them for some reason. It's not likely to happen, those songs were very close to her. If it did, I wouldn't want to hear about it. I told her about not being able to shake my bad attitude toward The Cocteau Twins (I'll always LOVE the music!!) since I read that interview that was posted in gaffa, where one of them (Robin?) called _Treasure_ "an abortion". Since that's my very favorite TCT album and it's the album I first heard and it's the album that got me interested in TCT AND it's one of my favorite albums of all time (after K/J/P/H's, of course), well, that cut very, very deep. I still haven't gotten over it and probably never will. It honestly changed my whole attitude about the people behind the music. It's as if (Robin?) slapped me in the face and said "You're so STUPID for loving that album! How could you? It's terrible, it's an "abortion" and the fact that you can't see that just shows that you're silly and sentimental" I can understand artists wanting to move on and grow and change and all of that, but the artists making really good music should never apoligize for or put down their early work. Kate, Jane and Peter don't, and neither would Happy (at least, not within my hearing range :-) ---- I'm putting in motion a project that anyone who wants to can be involved in. Happy and I discussed this the other day and she finds the idea very interesting. YOU submit questions you'd like to have answered by Happy. She'll cull through them and provide answers to as many as she can. I'll type in the answers and post them in rec.music.gaffa. Ask any question you'd like...about her songs...her music...her lyrics... her influences...her childhood...anything at all. She'll answer as completely as possible. You can start sending questions now, but the final "interview" will not be posted for a few months. This will give those who have yet to receive and/or absorb _Warpaint_ and the early tapes time to think about it. I think this is a great way for a lot of different people to have their questions about Happy and her music answered. I would say that this probably won't appear in Love-Hounds until the fall, so if you're getting Happy's albums one or two at a time, you will have plenty of time to get in on this. I'll most likely post answers now and again so people won't have to wait months to find out the answers, but will post a more complete version in the fall. Who knows, maybe we can get this interview printed up and published somewhere. If Happy ever starts up a real fan club, it would certainly get printed in a newsletter. Send questions to: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us Even though we're not regularly able to read and post, that's only temporary and we still can get our mail every couple of weeks now. I'll probably post a reminder every few weeks that this is going on. Tell me if you want your name attached to the question as in: Jeff Burka asks "When will you be 26?" kind of thing. Have fun! Vickie (one of Vickie'n'Chris) "Step inside my mind, experience the other side" Happy Rhodes 19-Jun-91 4:30:26-GMT,9433;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA06532; Wed, 19 Jun 91 00:30:14 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA12242; Tue, 18 Jun 91 22:20:24 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 18 Jun 91 19:54:41 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA06911; Tue, 18 Jun 91 19:54:39 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.4) id ; Tue, 18 Jun 91 15:03 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Jun 91 15:03 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) To: ectoplasm@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Better late than never #2 Another post that got away. It's so out of date now it's embarrassing, but it was what was on my mind at the time. Uh...better late than never? The saddest thing is that Evan's gone now and will probably never know that I did respond to him, it just never appeared. ---------------- Vickie here. More random Happy bits... Jeff writes: > Vickie has mentioned that Happy is now 25 (actually, when will she be > 26? In the letter she sent me in August, she said she was 25). If you > put two and two together, you realize that Happy's first three albums > came out when she was ~20. Roughly KaTe's age at the time of the release > of TKI and LH. Except, of course, that Happy hadn't had the support of > EMI and established musicians like Gilmour for several years. So true! God knows where Happy would be if she'd had her own "David Gilmour" before Vol. I was recorded. Then again, we wouldn't have the albums as they are now. I wouldn't give them up for anything. However, NOW is a very good time for DG to show up. Anyone have his phone number? :-) Happy was born August 9, 1965 ---- Derek posted about finding _Ecto_ in The Music Shack. I hope you've found the first three at Records & Such by the time this is posted. *Please* post your reactions to _Ecto_ after you've had time to absorb it. It's my favorite album and no one has really talked about it yet. "Off From Out From Under Me" is the song that smacked me upside the brain (before I'd even heard the album) and made me realize something very, very amazing was happening in my life. When I did get _Ecto_ I shook my head in awe. I can't wait until others get to this album. Kevin told me something that my brain still hasn't quite absorbed. Though Happy probably had the basic ideas for the album in her head for a while, she..........wrote.......recorded.......and mixed......._Ecto_ in two weeks. Kevin said he went out of town on business and it was done when he returned. Holy Ghost indeed! ---- Judi McKernan writes: > Thanks, Vickie, for your numerous and lenghthy post concerning Happy > Rhodes. I'd been curious about her stuff as so many love-hounds had > been raving about her thru the digest, but wanted to wait to make a > purchase until I knew a little bit more about her. Your posts made up > my mind: I'll HAVE to give her stuff a try. Sounds like this will be a > really outstanding find. Any suggestions as to what to try first? > (Unfortunately, my budget does not allow me to go whole-hog and get it > all at once...) I think Larry had the right suggestion, especially if you can only afford one or two at a time. Start at the beginning and admire the evolution. Sounds like what Steve is doing. Though you have to buy I & II separately, they can be almost be considered like a double album. She told me there were even more songs but they never ended up anywhere. I can see it now- this is sure to happen, Happydemos being circulated among fans! We talked about this-she had never heard any of the Cathy demos until today. I sent her my SIG118, the 6-hr marathon, and I played one of them. She asked me about it (actually she said "What was THAT???) and I told her the whole story. I feel SO guilty-I could have sent them to her a long time ago but it never occured to me. She's interested in hearing the rest so I will be sending them to her. Anyway, she said that there were some songs of hers she'd never want anyone to hear and so understood Kate's feelings about the demos, but also understood the fans who cherish these sorts of things. There aren't any songs that she'd feel comfortable enough to ever release on an album, but there are some she's still fond of and they may end up as B-sides or on fan-circulated tapes. I DON'T HAVE ANY ! With each album after I/II she grew as a songwriter and the progression is interesting to listen to. As far as describing the progression, I'll leave that to someone with better discriptive powers (Jeff?) than I. Start with I and II if you can afford both. Then Rearmament. Then Ecto. Then Warpaint. Hopefully it won't take you too long to get to Warpaint- it's so good you shouldn't deprive yourself of it for too long! One nice thing about getting them piecemeal (as Steve is doing) is that you'll have a chance to absorb and "learn" each album before going on to the next. You're going to have a wonderful time!! ---- Evan (Hi!) writes: > Nobody ever seems to post overseas details. > Until then I'm afraid I'll just have to remain ignorant. I suppose I > could write to Happy and ask but if somebody already knew and could > post... remember a fair proportion of regular posters here are outwith > the U.S. I actually asked Kevin about this before your post (I WAS thinking about you, really I was!) and we came up with the figures that have already been posted: For the CD only: send 11 pounds For each tape: send 8 pounds prices include airmail postage, which is, of course, much more expensive than the domestic rate. I fear these rates are a bit unfair, but it's the best we could come up with to stay consistant, since the exchange rate seems to vary from day to day. Evan, I'm pleased that you're interested enough to ask. I do think you'd like Happy quite a bit. I want Happy's music to get circulated in England, Ireland, Scotland, Europe, Sweden, Finland, Australia, Japan.....EVERYWHERE there are people like you who have the open hearts to appreciate her. Perttu, I'm dying to see if Happy makes it into your sigline! ----- Jorn & Michael posted about Rose records: > Vickie just called with the thrilling news that Rose Records has placed an > order for 25 Warpaint CDs and an undetermined number of Happy's tapes, to > be displayed in stores here in Chicago, Champaign, Madison, and possibly > Milwaukee. They should be available within a month. (Vickie Mapes: > STARMAKER!!!) Well, first of all, if she becomes a "star" (I prefer "well-known artist" :-) it will be because of people like all of you who go out and spread the word. The goal is to help Happy support herself while making music for all of us to enjoy and to get the music out to people like us who'd enjoy it. Second, to clarify, Rose will NOT :-( be carrying her early tapes. Only the CD and cassettes of _Warpaint_. Any readers who are in the Chicago, Madison, Milwaukee and Champaign areas should call their local Rose (we have 31 stores) and ask if it's in yet. 31 stores/25 CDs? I don't know which ones will not carry the album, so if one store has it and another doesn't, tell them that you want to buy the album but don't want to drive to the other store. Maybe they'll call the office and ask the buyer why they didn't get any copies in. The ones who do have it must sell out so more can be re-ordered. I see "on-commission" items get returned every day. I don't want to see that happen to Happy. Kevin was going to send along in-store play copies. If you're in a store to buy, act like you're not sure about the purchase and ask to hear what it sounds like. Get Happy heard! The thought of "Waking Up" blaring out over store speakers.......wonderful! Update: Rose finally has the album in stores, but it looks like Madison, Milwaukee and Champaign didn't get copies. The buyer obviously figured that there would be no interest in those stores. If you live in these cities, please call Rose and request _Warpaint_. The managers will pass along the requests to the buyer, if there's enough interest. That's already happened in Champaign, when Bob called the office after Ken (hi! thanks!) and a couple other people asked him about the CD. You do have an effect, please keep it up. If you're in Madison, B-Side Records ordered 2 copies to carry. Reckless Records in Chicago will also be carrying _Warpaint_. If you're in the Kansas City area, Autograph's Records in Crown Center has the CD. They've sold their initial supply and ordered more. YAY! Since I'm the only one in town who plays Happy, that makes me feel great! ---- Vickie (one of Vickie'n'Chris) "At last I know what's in my soul and in my bones The things that cannot be denied And I do what I can to keep on top of every one of them I do what I can to ward away the very death of them" Happy Rhodes --------------------------------------------------------------- One happy non-Happy but Happy nontheless item: If you liked blackgirls' first album _procedure_, you MUST get their second, called _Happy_! It's just as good! 'Tis a happy time for happy things :-) Now all you need to do is find Victoria William's first album _Happy Come Home_ and you'll have it made! 19-Jun-91 4:32:41-GMT,12052;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA06786; Wed, 19 Jun 91 00:32:17 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA12189; Tue, 18 Jun 91 22:20:03 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 18 Jun 91 19:54:37 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA06908; Tue, 18 Jun 91 19:54:35 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.4) id ; Tue, 18 Jun 91 15:00 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Jun 91 15:00 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) To: ectoplasm@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Better late than never #1 Hello fine folks... *THIS* is what was supposed to be posted along with the Ecto & Rearmament lyrics, instead of the "four month old" posts! Damndamndamn! Those who are used to lightening-fast computer-speed timeliness will be appalled (amusedly so, I hope :-) at how out of date these articles are. All I can say is that they were typed up and ready to go ages ago, and every time they were supposed to be posted something went wrong. Ouch! As time kept passing I would change things to make them seem less dated. Still, it will soon be obvious that these were written way before the -sick of Happy- flap started. Most of this stuff is really more appropriate for a mailing list, but there are some things I wish had appeared in Love-Hounds. Piffle! Now that we have this mailing list (thanks to Angel Jessica!), I say, Oh well darn, and what the heck! My fingers hurt too much from typing to just trash them. So here they are... For the third time (pleaseOhcomputergodsletthemappearthistime).... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Vickie here. I've got a deluge of things to post, just waiting for the time when we are able. Some Happy bits and pieces... First of all, THANK YOU!!!!!THANK YOU!!!!THANK YOU!!!!! to all the people who've been posting wonderful things about Happy's music. You're doing a great service and they're FANTASTIC to read. You really ARE out there listening and taking notice! I'm deliriously happy!!! Oh my, I can't tell you how much it means....THANK YOU SO MUCH! Happy and Kevin wanted me to pass on their deepest, warmest and heartfelt thanks and appreciation. I think they're kind of astonished at it all! Keep it up and tell your friends! Those with Usenet access, go over to rec.music.misc and rec.music.cd and please spread the word. ---- Thanks for all the "thanks" !! Your're welcome and, believe me, the pleasure is all mine. I feel that Happy's music is finally getting to a lot of people who would appreciate it most. I have a vision of the songs as rare and precious jewels in a darkened one-room glass house. I'm outside urging people to go in and look. It's very hard to get inside the house though. You have to make a special effort to get there. Very slowly, a few start making that effort to enter and they go in with flashlights. Larry Hernandez was the first to enter. He deserves special credit. Then Michael Peskura, then Mark Semich, then Gregory Bossert, then Jeff Burka, then Mike Mendelson. As more people entered and looked they started coming out with me and joining their voices with mine, urging people to come in too. Then, because of those people helping me, the lights were turned on in the house. Now, lots of readers are either oohing and aahing or waiting for their goodies to arrive so they can see what the fuss is about. Those still undecided will hopefully buy at least one of the albums at some point. The lights are on and we can play a big part in getting the sun to rise on the very wonderful House'O'Happy! Please keep up with the posts about your reactions. I can't TELL you how great they are to read! After being a lonely Happyfan for so very, very long (seems like forever!), it's fascinating to hear other people talk about songs that I know well and have never heard anyone else talk about. Sure, I've been playing Happy on the radio in Kansas City since 1988, but not that many listeners actually took the time and effort to send away for the tapes. Those who did never called me up to talk about specific songs (except for one guy who was obsessed with "The Wretches Gone Awry"), so...talk about a Happy delirium...the one _I'm_ in now is the BIGGEST one of all!!!!! Bless you, all who have posted about Happy. Katenews is slow now (we have PLENTY to look forward to!) and I shouldn't think anyone will mind (hopefully) that gaffa has been and will be again (if these posts ever get there) temporarily deluged by Happymania. She's worth it, she deserves it, she's a Katefan too and I think Kate would understand. I hope IED does :-) ---- Kevin said that an upcoming project is to transfer the masters of the first four to DAT. They would still keep those original masters. This music is so priceless, it needs to be preserved in every way possible. Boo! to whoeveritwas who said that Kate's music wouldn't be listened to 200 years from now. Grrrrr...! Great music will last the ages and her music isn't "trendy" or "faddish" so it will never go out of date. Include Happy in this category, and, assuming there's a human population around then, I rather like the thought that in 200 years, someone, somewhere, maybe on a space station or out in deep space, will be listening to a song like "I Have A Heart" on headphones or brain implant (that would sure save on Walkman batteries!) or whatever and cry at the sheer beauty of it, feel some of the same deep, complex emotions I do when I hear it in 1991. ---- Kevin and Happy are thinking SERIOUSLY about putting all four tapes on CD. Kevin was wondering if it would be worth the expense involved. Did I give him my opinion? You betcha! Did I tell him about all the recent posts raving about the early albums? You betcha! Did I tell him about all the "I sure wish her early albums were on CD" comments? Do bears....? I had asked him if they ever thought about it and he said Yeah, all the time, especially now when they're dubbing tapes from the time they get up until they go to bed. That reminds me, something I wanted to bring up. These tapes are unarguably musically valuable, but one thing that makes them absolutely priceless is the fact that they are hand-made. Think....these tapes are dubbed real time by Happy and Kevin. They put together the cassette covers. Happy takes her negatives to a photo shop and has a batch made up. They cut and paste the photos of the paintings onto the cassette inserts. Happy types in the song titles. They package the tapes and Happy (most often) takes them to the post office to mail. When Happy's recognition-time comes, when they can afford to release the first four on CD, when they're so busy they barely have time time to eat, well, these hand-made cassettes will be a thing of the past. That's one of the reasons I said they will become collector's items. Think about it.... Anyway, back to the CDs, it would be a very expensive undertaking, making sure they were transferred at the highest quality, so it won't happen soon. Don't anyone NOT buy the cassettes in anticipation...but it still will happen much sooner than the "far in the future, if at all" than we thought. Don't know about the cover art, I'll try to remember to ask Happy. Last week they made new run masters from the originals and also hooked up two additional cassette recorders to make dubs. They've never needed extra recorders before so you are having an effect! ---- Kevin wants to hear from anyone with a radio show or knows of any radio stations that might be willing to play _Warpaint_. I've passed along the suggestions that have already appeared here. Thanks for those. Kevin's been sending out CDs to radio stations all over the country and in his follow-up calls gets the usual "Yeah we got it, we haven't heard it, we get so many" kind of thing. They need help in getting the stations to play songs. I'll try to get an updated list of stations that have _Warpaint_ so those who are willing can call and request something. Thanks to anyone who has already called a station. Radio stations in other countries would be great to hear about too, if you think there's any chance at all of getting considered for airplay. Those with sugestions should contact Kevin aaaaaaaaaat: Aural Gratification P.O. Box 8658 Academy Station Albany, NY 12208 Kevin's willing to hear any ideas you might have re radio & record stores & magazines that might review it. Drop him a line or e-mail them to Jorn, who'll tell me and I'll tell Kevin. ---- Happy told me that she'd decided NOT to put "In Hiding" on this album. Kevin was the one who talked her into it. I for one give him my heartfelt thanks for doing us a great service. I also give him a thanks for inspiring so many great Happy songs such as "Come Here"/"If Love Is A Game, I Win"/"One Alien" and "Friend You'll Be" ---- Jeff wrote *ages* ago, but I was never able to respond to: > Currently, my favorite Happy Rhodes album is _Rearmament_. So many > of the songs on here, including "'Til the Dawn Breaks", "Crystal Orbs," > "The Perfect Irony," "I Have a Heart," "Baby Don't Go," are just painfully > beautiful. They give me chills and sometimes make me physically hurt. > Lying down, listening on headphones in the dark, is a sublime experience. May you be blessed with good times, good loves and good music for all of eternity. They affect me the same way. I almost always use headphones when listening to Happy. Part of that comes from taking my Walkman everywhere I go and ALWAYS having Happy's tapes with me, but even when I'm home alone and I'm free to turn the stereo up loud I still usually opt for headphones. Her music (on the early tapes especially) is so personal and intimate that headphones send it to the heart and soul more directly than speakers can. Warpaint is the first album that is very "speaker-friendly" so to speak. That's probably because it's much more percussion-based, rather than guitar and synth-based. Also, she uses her low voice much more and has given up :-( using her ultra high voices as lead vocals. Listening to the early tapes, her delicate, crystal clear high voices can be best appreciated on headphones. Then again, her deep, rattle-your-veins ("Beat It Out"!) low voices sound pretty great on head- phones too. Anywhichway, whatever, however....it's all pretty amazing! Jeff, I quoted what you wrote above to Happy and she was very touched. She said that listening to music in the dark on headphones is her favorite way of absorbing music too. She said she likes to lie on the floor. I prefer the couch myself. > Other favorite songs are : > Volume I: Oh the Drears; Given In; Possessed; I'll Let You Go; Moonbeam > Friends; I'm Not Awake, I'm Not Asleep; Step Inside; The Wretches Gone Awry > Volume II: Come Here; Under and Over the Brink; and the whole second side > Ecto: Would That I Could (it's sublime!); Off From Out From Under Me; > Project 499; Ode; Don't Want to Hear It; To Be E. Mortal Ahhhhh, a man after my own heart. If you were here I'd hug you! Those are EXACTLY the songs I would pick! But, it does tend to get a bit absurd doesn't it, when all the songs are so good you want to list them all and have to cull through to choose favorites. I'd be sitting there typing on and on, adding songs like The First To Cry, The Revelation, Where Do I Go?, If Love Is A Game I Win, I Won't Break Down, If So, I Cannot Go On, Ecto and Poetic Justice, uh, just to name a few! > As you can see, picking a favorite tape is kind of hard, when so many > incredible songs are on each one; it's much the same problem one has with > KaTe. So true. Vickie (one of Vickie'n'Chris) "The painted stage, it comes alive at night, when all the world is dead. And I become the sole audience, and they linger in my head" Happy Rhodes 19-Jun-91 14:00:44-GMT,707;000000000001 Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA26619; Wed, 19 Jun 91 09:59:16 EDT Received: from GUESSWHO (mac129.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-ACNS-1.03) id AA08795; Wed, 19 Jun 91 08:57:43 CDT Date: Wed, 19 Jun 91 08:57:43 CDT From: barger@ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9106191357.AA08795@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Hey, I just figured it out You know why Happy is holding her fingers like that on the cover of Warpaint? (Answer tomorrow.) P.S. The combo of listening to Vol 1 and reading Vickie on the made-by-hand collectibility of the tapes has finally gotten me to make a check for $40 to A.G.... 19-Jun-91 14:07:52-GMT,2746;000000000001 Received: from meshugge.media.mit.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA27877; Wed, 19 Jun 91 10:07:38 EDT Received: by meshugge.media.mit.edu (4.1/DA1.0.2) id AA02868; Wed, 19 Jun 91 10:11:43 EDT Date: Wed, 19 Jun 91 10:11:43 EDT From: David N. Blank Message-Id: <9106191411.AA02868@meshugge.media.mit.edu> To: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us Cc: ectoplasm@athos.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: Chris Williams's message of Tue, 18 Jun 91 15:00 CDT Subject: Better late than never #1 > Kevin said that an upcoming project is to transfer the masters of the > first four to DAT. They would still keep those original masters. > > Kevin and Happy are thinking SERIOUSLY about putting all four tapes > on CD. Kevin was wondering if it would be worth the expense involved. I understand that there is a service (I have the address here somewhere) which will take a DAT and press any quantity of CD's from it. I'm not sure of the prices, but I for one would be very willing to buy the tapes again in CD form. Please pass on another vote for transfer to CD to the AG folks. > onto the cassette inserts. Happy types in the song titles. They package > the tapes and Happy (most often) takes them to the post office to mail. I could easily whip up an insert for the tapes. Acually, we could send them a copy of the insert Jessica & crew (the lyrics team) created! She could then pop down to her local printer and have them copy them for 7 cents a copy and voila, no more typing *and* the lyrics would come in the tape? Whaddya think? > Kevin's willing to hear any ideas you might have re radio & record stores > & magazines that might review it. Drop him a line or e-mail them to Jorn, > who'll tell me and I'll tell Kevin. One of the more eclectic magazines that I know of is Option. They are also chock full of reviews on all sorts of music, seems like a likely candidate. > Warpaint is the first album that is very "speaker-friendly" so to > speak. That's probably because it's much more percussion-based, rather > than guitar and synth-based. Also, she uses her low voice much more > and has given up :-( using her ultra high voices as lead vocals. I like the album very much. If I could ask for anything for the new album, I would ask for more acoustic guitar. It is one of my favorite instruments and compliments Happy's voice(s) well. Plus, it is the closest thing I can think of to having Kate Bush's voice backed up by acoustic guitar. As for the demise of her high lead voice, remind you of any other female vocalist (hint:Hounds of Love)? sigh. Peace, dNb P.S. Jessica, do you have this list archived to a file automatically? 19-Jun-91 19:14:08-GMT,1066;000000000001 Received: from phloem.uoregon.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA02644; Wed, 19 Jun 91 15:13:10 EDT Received: from greylady.uoregon.edu by phloem.uoregon.edu (4.1/UofO NetSvc-05/01/91) id AA26913; Wed, 19 Jun 91 11:42:17 PDT Received: by greylady.uoregon.edu (5.60/SMI-4.0.1.2(JQJ)) id AA00730; Wed, 19 Jun 91 11:40:43 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Jun 91 11:40:43 PDT From: stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Message-Id: <9106191840.AA00730@greylady.uoregon.edu> To: love-hounds@eddie.mit.edu, ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Funny how these things go . . . Excerpted from a chronology of Kate Bush distributed with Ron Hill's _Cloudbusting_: [ Kate's early self-made demo tapes are sent to major record companies. ] >All the major companies are approached. None accepts. >Kate's songs are described as "morbid", "boring" and "uncommercial". ^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Hmm, there's been much the same reaction to another artist's early work in some places lately. But I won't name names :-). 19-Jun-91 20:22:26-GMT,1621;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA12530; Wed, 19 Jun 91 16:22:01 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05985; Wed, 19 Jun 91 16:21:55 EDT Date: Wed, 19 Jun 91 16:21:49 EDT From: jessica To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Stuff :) Message-Id: Well, I don't have the list archived automatically, but I am keeping all of the postings. I'll see if I can work out a way to have them all available by ftp. I may need to be careful of how much disk space I use. I'd hate to move off of athos and confuse everyone but that might be what i'll end up doing, just to make this easier. (the only thing i'd move is the ftp site, not the whole list!) I can easily have 3 more lyrics sheets made up by tomorrow, and send them all to Happy and Kevin (or give them to them when i'm in albany *if* i get to meet them :) I hadn't been hurrying with them, but the thought of Happy actually including them in the tapes for people is great!! I agree with david, i'd love to hear more happy with guitar... vickie, your postings have been wonderful!!!!!! Thankyou! I better go get work done so i'll have time tonight to finish up the lyrics :) jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes ||