Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1185 ecto, Number 1185 Tuesday, 19 July 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: Happy Concert (AUG 11) Today's your birthday friends.... Attn Kevin Gilbert fans! LA shows INFO: alt.music.ecto (FWD) new Kate Bush single 1994 Happy Birthday Project ======================================================================== From: Brad_Baker@novell.com (Brad Baker) Subject: Re: Happy Concert (AUG 11) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 11:51:51 -0700 (PDT) I will be in NYC for the first time and am very excited about this possible luck in timing regarding Happy's (Aug11) concert. I'm missing alot on info though; Is "Alternative Woodstock" not part of THE Woodstock concert? I gather from the $10 tickets that it is not. I'm sure thats for the better (sound, atmosphere, etc.). Where is the concert? How far is it from NYC? I would be interested in meeting other Ecto's possibly at the Courtyard mentioned below. Any info reguarding HR's concert much appreciated! -Bako- > From: jeffw@triple-i.com (Jeff Wasilko) > Subject: Re: Happy concert (Aug 11) > Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 21:12:55 -0700 (PDT) > > The show is August 11, and Happy will be one of three bands > playing that night. 3 bands from the Alternative Woodstock are > playing each night (Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday). > > The show will start around 8:00, and tickets should be less than > $10 at the door. Andrea said the new CD should be available at > the show!!! > > So, I booked the un-official ecto-suite at the Courtyard in > Poughkeepsie, NY, which is about 45 minutes south of Woodstock. I > got a two-room suite, so there will be plenty of crash space. > ======================================================================== From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 07:27:17 CET-1 Subject: Today's your birthday friends.... i*i*i*i*i*i *************** ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* *** Cathy Guetzlaff *** *** Vlad *** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Cathy Guetzlaff Mon July 18 1955 Cancer Vlad Sat July 18 1970 Warning: severe tire damage Jani Pinola Thu July 20 1972 Jonquil Mark L. Hessenflow Mon July 24 1967 Lamb David Koehler Mon July 25 1966 Leo Tom Johnson Mon July 25 1966 Leo Alvin Brattli Sun July 27 1969 Lefthanded Rob Woiccak (woj) Sun July 28 1968 children at play John Relph Sat July 28 1962 Leo Bob Kollmeyer Wed July 28 1971 Leo Mark Carroll Fri July 29 1966 Hacker Steve Lusky Tue July 29 1952 Bike! Kate Bush Wed July 30 1958 God Kevin Knapp (smudge) Wed July 31 1968 Leo Eli Brandt August 5 Leo Martin Bridges Sat August 8 1970 BigGuy Happy Rhodes Mon August 9 1965 HolyGhost Vickie Mapes Wed August 15 1956 Giddy -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.wupper.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== From: AirDance@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 17:48:33 EDT Subject: Attn Kevin Gilbert fans! Hi Ecto! For all you Kevin Gilbert/Toy Matinee/Giraffe fans who live in the southern CA area, I have some good news! :-) Kevin is playing tomorrow night (Tuesday the 19th) under the moniker "Gilbert's Toys" at the Alligator Lounge (3321 Pico) in Los Angeles! This will be the last warm-up gig he's playing until September to showcase new material from his upcoming album on Elektra due out in August. If any of you decide to come on out and enjoy the show, please drop me a line via e-mail or call me at (909) 931-0518 so I can meet you there! :-) Hope to see some of your Ectofaces at the show! Anyone else going to see October Project at the Troubadour tonight?? :-) I'll be wearing a black dress w/a green jacket (you can't miss it;), please stop by my table and say howdy! Jennifer ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 17:24:04 PDT From: Neal Copperman Subject: LA shows Hmmmm, I didn't realize October Project was at the Troubadour tonight. Don't know if knowing that further in advance would have made me inclined to drive up there again, but I know I won't be tonight. and since we are announcing LA shows, BETTY will be at the Hollywood Roosevelt this Thursday through Sunday. All other details escape me, but if anyone cares, I'll look them up. Jeff Hanson and I will be at the Saturday show, if anyone's thinking of going. and, to keep this LA concert thread alive, at least within my own post, Jeff, Susan and I went and saw Alison Moyet at Glam Slam Saturday. Glam Slam is a club recently bought and remodeled by Prince (yeah yeah, I know, formerly). It was a cool club. Black at the entrance, with chains hanging down from the ceiling. The first club I have been in where you had to go through a metal detector to get inside. The place was mostly black, with scattered pictures of Prince and the Prince symbol on the dance floor. There was an Egyptian motif in the bathrooms, and large Egyptian style figures on either side of the stage. Of course, the most striking design was the two large columns with sculptures of naked people groping there way to the ceiling. Alison's show was fantastic! I'm not such a huge fan, so I couldn't tell you lots of song titles, but she came out and sang with lots of energy and spirit. She looked great, and glowed through the whole show. The crowd loved her (perhaps even a little too much) and she really built on the energy. She sang some Yaz songs (Only You, Situation, I think), Love Resurection, and a few others that sounded familiar to me. She also did a French Chanteuse number that was pretty cool. Two encores, the first song being Love Letters (or so I was told), which was requested by someone in the audience. Perhaps the best show of the year for me, and yes, I did see Tori and Sarah when they came through town, although not from 5 feet away. Plus they had seats, which I tend to feel absorbs much to much of the energy of a show. Neal, who wonders how all these people know days (and sometimes weeks) in advance what they are going to be wearing to these shows. All I ever know is what I"m wearing right now, and even that sometimes takes a bit of thought. ======================================================================== From: jeffw@jane.tiac.net (Jeff Wasilko) Subject: INFO: alt.music.ecto (FWD) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 22:32:23 -0400 (EDT) This is from alt.music.ecto: ************************* From: vickie@pilot.njin.net (Vickie Mapes) Newsgroups: alt.music.ecto Subject: Sent to other groups Message-ID: Date: 18 Jul 94 11:20:50 GMT Lines: 148 Hi, I sent this out to other newsgroups. It was posted to: rec.music.info rec.music.misc alt.music.alternative alt.music.alternative.female alt.music.enya alt.music.world If anyone has any suggestions about this "info/intro" post, please let me know. I'm going out-of-town to see Tori Amos and Sarah McLachlan in Kansas City, so won't be able to answer any mail or posts for a week. See you when I get back! Vickie --------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject Line: INFO: alt.music.ecto Say what? alt.music.ecto - the diverse music newsgroup with atmosphere! The door's propped open, there are comfortable chairs on the porch, the smell of cinnamon cake is wafting in the summer breeze, and there's an eclectic selection of lovely female voices coming from the stereo all day long. It's too hot to argue, and who wants to argue when you can have a conversation instead? Occasionally hotrodders might find the side road and scream silliness out the window, but the doppler effect will drown them out and we'll ignore them. Bring your CDs and let us "hear" them through your reviews. Come over and tell us about that great concert you went to last night. Share reviews, tour dates, information. alt.music.ecto is meant to be far more than just another music news- group. It was born from the mailing list Ecto, the busy, amicable and eclectic Happy Rhodes mailing list, which has been a chatty fixture of the Internet since 1991. Ecto is a word that means "outside" in latin; It also happens to be the title of Happy Rhodes' 4th album. But as the Ecto mailing list got bigger and more popular, it became a music forum for a wide range of artists and musical styles. What do many of them have in common? Typically, the music contains a few of the traits below. o female vocals o brilliant songwriting o innovative melodies or sounds o difficult to categorize Anyone who is into artists/groups like Kate Bush, Happy Rhodes, Tori Amos, Bel Canto, Big Hat, Dead Can Dance, Jane Siberry, Enya, Milla, Sarah McLachlan, Loreena McKennitt, and the like, when asked to describe "what kind of music is it?" is usually at a loss for words. What GENRE is it? Although it is often the case that an individual artist has strong influences from one of these categories, it's not pop, it's not alternative, it's not gothic, folk, rock, jazz, or any of the other famous musical genres. This is "ecto music". Through Ecto-the mailing list, ecto music became a genre in its own right. We use the term to refer to the style of music that is most often discussed on Ecto-the mailing list, #ecto-the irc channel, and the newsgroup alt.music.ecto. If lots of others use it too, we might add a new word to the dictionary! Then, it'll be that much easier for us to introduce this kind of music into the hearts and minds of our friends and associates! We want alt.music.ecto to be a place where anyone will feel free to write about all *kinds* of music though. Female vocals are generally a.m.ecto's specialty, and even though the favorites tend to run toward "ecto music" we also like hearing about other types/genres of music. For instance: world music (Zap Mama, Sheila Chandra, Stella Chiweshe etc.) country/folk (kd lang, Iris DeMent, Nanci Griffith, Patsy Cline etc.) torch (Ingenue-era kd lang, Eddi Reader, Carmel etc.) jazz (Holly Cole, Billie Holiday, Carla Bley etc.) experimental (Meredith Monk, Laurie Anderson, Diamanda Galas etc.) blues (Bessie Smith, Ma Rainey etc.) rock (Melissa Etheridge, Caterwaul, Fetchin' Bones etc.) pop (Frente!, Darling Buds, HeartThrobs etc.) That's just the tip of the iceberg! Tell us about *your* favorites. Variety is the spice of life! Reading and writing about eclectic women like these and so many others is what makes alt.music.ecto different from a more "focused" newsgroup such as alt.music.alternative.female. Yet, alt.music.ecto is itself more focused than a group like rec.music.misc. At the request of mailing list members, the newsgroup alt.music.ecto isn't gatewayed to or from Ecto-the mailing list and the distribution of the newsgroup on Usenet is small and fragile, so it needs your input, readership, support and participation. Give it a try, and if you can't find it, politely ask your sysadmin to add it. Who knows? They just might, and you'll never know unless you ask. alt.music.ecto readers want to be able to come to a.m.e. and read about different artists, and you'll be able to pass along reviews, interviews, thoughts and information about other artists *without* being told "hey, I thought this group was about Happy Rhodes! Get outta here!" (Happy's fans fans are a polite and eclectic bunch) or "hold on, that artist isn't XXX type of music!! Get outta here!" (which, in some groups, someone always seems to end up saying sooner or later). And no, there's no reason for you to get flamed if you happen to post about male artists every now and then, or even the occasional non-musical topic. Usenet newsgroups can be magnets for flames and we realize that. I vow to personally ignore flames, and I hope others will too. There's always going to be someone who wants to cause trouble and push buttons. I say forget 'em...let them talk to themselves until they get bored to tears and go elsewhere. Flames tend to beget flames, but they don't *have* to. "Agree to disagree" is a handy and well-used phrase in the mailing list Ecto, and it's the guiding philosophy of alt.music.ecto too. When reading News, our favorite keys are "n" and "k" and they certainly come in handy every now and then when there are posts about artists or topics one may not really be interested in. It's always better to skip or ignore a post than to flame someone else's taste. At the same time, eclectic posts will allow alt.music.ecto readers to learn about many artists they might not have heard of or be familiar with. alt.music.ecto is a friendly place, small and intimate. Stop by and say hi, and let other readers know about the artists you like. "eclectic" is the word. Vickie Mapes / Alan Ezust -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Vickie Mapes It lives! "My ears are lucky to hear vickie@pilot.njin.net alt.music.ecto these glorious songs" HR _________ "Imagination sets in, then |_ _ | _ The Happy Rhodes mailing list all the voices begin" KB |__|_ ||_| ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ======================================================================== From: Tim Cook Date: Tue, 19 Jul 94 13:56:30 BST Subject: new Kate Bush single Kate has a new single out. Its off the George Gershwin tribute album. The tribute album sounds interesting; THE GLORY OF GERSHWIN Oleta Adams Embracable You Kate Bush The Man I Love Chris De Burgh Do What You Do Cher It Ain't Necessarily So Elvis Costello But Not for Me Peter Gabriel Summertime Elton John Someone to Watch Over Me Jon Bon Jovi How Long Has This Been Going On MeatLoaf Someone Loves Me Sinead O'Connor My Man's Gone Now Robert Palmer I Got Rhythm Courtney Pine Summertime Carly Simon I've Got a Crush On You Lisa Stansfield They Can't Take That Away From Me Sting Nice Work If You Can Get It Willard White Bidin' My Time Issy Van Randwick I'll Build A Stairway to Paradise Larry Adler & George Martin Rhapsody in Blue Tim ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 07:01:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Burks Subject: 1994 Happy Birthday Project Greetings, With the deadline for 1994 Happy Birthday Project contributions newly passed, here is the list of contributors for whom I have tapes in hand: Jens Brage Doug Burks Neal Copperman Dave Dixon Bob Dreano Neile Graham Uli Grepel Jim Gurley Klaus Kluge Bob Lovejoy Geoff Parks Mike Peskura Marcel Rijs Meredith Tarr woj Joe Zitt A tape from Mitch Pravatiner should also be working its way through the US mails. If you have mailed me a tape recently and are not on this list, please let me know! Thank you all for inundating my postal mailbox in the past week! I'd also like to include a small piece of the original call for participation, since there is still time (admittedly not much) to act on these two items. ----------------- The volunteers I am personally gift-wrapping-challenged. Would someone like to volunteer to take the final tapes and potential gift, nicely wrap them, add a card, and ship it off to Bearsville NY? The questions Adding a gift to the tapes adds a wonderful touch to the present, in my opinion. I open the floor for suggestions for such a gift. ----------------- Doug Burks _O_ @>->--- dbx@connected.com |< She really is!! ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)