Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #651 ecto, Number 651 Thursday, 15 July 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* HaPpY Birthday HaPpY Birthday HaPpY Birthday Re: XPN/music DIBS, etc HR^5, Precious Things Re: HR5 spotted! Back from hols (a Klaus) DIDs &c ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 08:50:10 +0100 From: Terry Partis Subject: HaPpY Birthday Here's wishing a very HAPPY Birthday to John Zimmer on July 16th. Have a great day John Peace === Only in your eyes lies your soul ========================= Happy Rhodes === _ __ Jolly Hockeysticks _ __ / `-' ( ,,, / `-' ( ,,, | I I ||||||[:::] Terry (Tel Boy) Partis | I I ||||||[:::] \_.-._( ''' (tgp@ukc.ac.uk) \_.-._( ''' With a smile and a song - I'm HaPpy Let me sleep awhile and dream of Avalon and the Beltane fires.................. ............................................our souls entwined for all eternity ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 08:53:32 +0100 From: Terry Partis Subject: HaPpY Birthday Here's wishing a very HAPPY Birthday to John Zimmer on July 16th. Have a great day John Peace Terry === Only in your eyes lies your soul ========================= Happy Rhodes === _ __ Jolly Hockeysticks _ __ / `-' ( ,,, / `-' ( ,,, | I I ||||||[:::] Terry (Tel Boy) Partis | I I ||||||[:::] \_.-._( ''' (tgp@ukc.ac.uk) \_.-._( ''' With a smile and a song - I'm HaPpy Let me sleep awhile and dream of Avalon and the Beltane fires.................. ............................................our souls entwined for all eternity ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 08:56:25 +0100 From: Terry Partis Subject: HaPpY Birthday Here's wishing a very HAPPY Birthday to Cathy Guetzlaff on July 18th. Have a great day Cathy, Peace Terry === Only in your eyes lies your soul ========================= Happy Rhodes === _ __ Jolly Hockeysticks _ __ / `-' ( ,,, / `-' ( ,,, | I I ||||||[:::] Terry (Tel Boy) Partis | I I ||||||[:::] \_.-._( ''' (tgp@ukc.ac.uk) \_.-._( ''' With a smile and a song - I'm HaPpy Let me sleep awhile and dream of Avalon and the Beltane fires.................. ............................................our souls entwined for all eternity ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 10:17:39 MEZ From: Dirk Kastens Subject: Re: XPN/music Bob wrote: > Wow! Thank you! I admit it's a rough recording, demo-quality, >but my buddy Rich is an awesome guitarist. We still get together >and jam every now and then. That particular tape was recorded in 1974 on a >Teac 3340. I have several other songs, one of which is going to >Happy for the Birthday present. Thanks for helping me make the decision! Great, Bob! I think it's a good idea to send Happy an "original" song. We all listen to Happy's music, so we should give Happy the pleasure of listening to our music, the music of her fans. She must be interested in hearing the great variety of influences in other people's (especially Ectophiles') music and maybe she discovers that someone was influenced by her. This would be the nicest birthday present and the most personal one. Regards, Dirk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ || \\\\\ || ///// | dkastens@dosuni1.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE || ))))) IRK || ((((( ASTENS | "Music's the way, the only way I know" || ///// || \\\\\ | Happy Rhodes ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ======================================================================== Subject: DIBS, etc Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 3:43:25 CDT From: Joe Zitt I might as well construct a DIBs list off the top of my head, since if I let myself plan it, I'll never get it done... Samuel R. Delany: Dhalgren John Cage: Empty Words Alter Rebbe: Likutei Amarim (Tanya) Theodore Sturgeon: Best of... Samuel Beckett: Worstward Ho Deborah Hay: Lamb at the Altar Chaim Potok: The Promise Robert Silverberg: Dying Inside Tom Phillips: A Humument Joseph Zitt: Shekhinah: The Presence And, what the hell, here's some DIV's: Points in Space (Merce Cunningham) Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me Koyaanisqatsi Blue Planet Mistaken Memories of Medieval Manhattan (Eno) The Sensual World: The Videos (Kate Bush) Mariah Carey Unplugged Real Genius PoV (Peter Gabriel) Gentle Entropy (Zitt) (Yeah, it might seem egocentric including my own stuff -- but I put too much into them to leave them offshore!) ======================================================================== From: Martin Hanley Subject: HR^5, Precious Things Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 10:11:54 +0100 (BST) > I think I should listen to Kate more often ;-). I got so much good music > lately that I almost never put any Kate into the CD player. It's always > a 'coming home' experience when I listen to it again. Today I just put > 'The Dreaming' into the CD player, and woosh! the postman did arrive. AG must have been v busy recently; yesterday I received my order! Hurrah! And it was quick, too, given that it was sent here to England. First comments (only having listened to three of them so far): Rhodes I - I *like* this! Her voice is shown to wonderful effect, and the songs themselves... quite something. Equipoise - hmmm... I hope this grows on me; it's a bit disappointing on first listen. Happy's voice seems to be... I dunno... marginalised (sp?) somehow, with the music leading, and the music doesn't seem to be strong enough to do it. HR^5 - THIS IS BLOODY GOOD! Does that get my point across? :-) > Yow! Great! I love the stuff! And the 'surprise track 6'. What's this?!? "Hey Pat?" "Yeah?" "Ah nothing; I just wanted to bug ya." ...or something similar :-) > P.S.: Happy should avoid profile shots. Ooh, ooh, fighting talk! I must admit I thought that profile shots would be a no-no for her (based purely on the Warpaint cover), but the photo on HR^5's cover is great; very angular and more than a little attractive. The only trouble with the cover (imho) is that it looks a little cheap, but since this isn't a cover designed to look good on the shelves I guess it doesn't really matter. Anyway, back to the new CDs. Still to come (oh happy day) - Rhodes 1, Rearmament and Ecto. Roll on this evening, I say! From bear@tcs.com Wed Jul 14 18:20:19 1993 > To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu > Subject: Re: HR5 spotted! > > so, (recalling that it was a net only special 8^) who here amongst us > could bring themselves to part with their copy of hr/5 ?? > I'll bet this one was a promo. Easy to check, though. Just look for the autograph. And to whom it was autographed. :-) Bob Morrow ======================================================================== From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk Subject: Back from hols (a Klaus) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 13:48:29 BST OK, so it's Wednesday lunchtime. I've only just now caught up with the 400+ Ecto messages waiting for me when I got back to work on Monday. This message is going to cover whole raft of stuff that's been going on while I was away. The hols were great. Real battery recharging stuff! We spent a couple of days in Paris so as to take in the Air Show. Any excuse will do, I just *LOVE* Paris! (Fortunately I'm going back there again for a few days, on business, at the end of the month). Then it was off on the TGV to Montreux (of "Smoke on the Water" fame) on Lake Geneva (from where I 'phoned Chris & Vickie and heard KaTe's "Moments of Pleasure" played over the 'phone). We went to the same bar each night in Montreux and attempted to educate the regulars by playing PG's "Steam" and "Blood of Eden" on the video jukebox each night. They didn't seem to appreciate these interruptions of their preferred diet of Guns 'n' Roses and In Xcess (howver you spell that) and clones! We had a day-trip to Geneva which would be a lovely city if it weren't strangled by traffic. The second week was spent up in the alps, doing a little walking and drinking in the spectacular scenery. Wonderful stuff. I must go back again sometime soon. The best bit of all was walking out on the glacier at the Jungfraujoch, though I had to cut that short because the waether was closing in. I got back to the UK from Switzerland on July 3rd and found my HR5 waiting for me (sorry Albert!). I don't see what's "unfortunate" about the picture on the cover, but it could do with being a bit bigger, IMO. The music is just great, but then I never expected anything less. Happy addressed the mailer, but somebody else filled in the customs declaration. I've been playing it quite a bit recently, and with a tape of the accoustic songs from the radio tour in the walkman it's definitely been accoustic Happy fortnight! Happy on the radio in the UK? No, I can't see it myself. Radio over here is dire beyond belief. Most of the local stations play Top 40 or MOR or Oldies. In London there's a little more choice, but as Happy isn't black and doesn't play jazz she wouldn't benefit. Of the national stations, BBC Radio 1 is the most eclectic but it's mostly Top 40 and Virgin 1215 is supposed to play classic rock but most of what I've heard on there is decidedly second rate with the ocasional bit of class just to keep you listening. As far as I'm aware, there are no offshore Pirates at the moment. People have mentioned John Peel, but it seems to me that although he plays stuff nobody else on Radio 1 plays, it's from a very restricted range of musical styles centred on the likes of the Fall. A sad come-down for the DJ who introduced me to Tangerine Dream, June Tabor, and Talking Heads over the years. The KaTe interview on "Aspel & Co." (which I had video'd while I was away - no cock-ups on the timer-setting front fortunately) was better than I'd expected from comments about KaTe being dominated by her fellow guests (Victoria Wood and Lenny Henry). Yes, they're much more extrovert than her, but KaTe got her own segment of the show to herself and it even included a brief clip from KaTe's "Ask Aspel" appearance of (fourteen?) years ago. The whole show was way above average for that programme IMO, and not soley because of KaTe's presence. If anybody would like an audio dub on cassette I'd be happy to oblige. It's in reasonable quality (NICAM stereo) and I'd be happy to send you the whole show (about 45 minutes), just KaTe's bits (about 20 minutes) or just the song itself. What label is the Victoria Williams benefit CD on? Is there any likelyhood of this being available in the UK? Aliter, is there a mail-order source in the US? DIDs: (these are (intended to be) in alphabetical order, and I restricted myself to one album per artist) KATE BUSH: Hounds of Love ELO: Eldorado GENESIS: ...and then there were three... PROCOL HARUM: Grand Hotel HAPPY RHODES: Warpaint JANE SIBERRY: Bound by the Beauty STEELEYE SPAN: Now We Are Six TALKING HEADS: The Name of this Band... TANGERINE DREAM: Ricochet TOYAH: Yoyah! Toyah! Toyah! "Classical" DIDs: (again, one choice per composer trying to achieve a balance between symphonies, concertos, operas, & choral works) BACH: Brandenberg Concertos (ECO/Leppard) BEETHOVEN: Symphony No. 5 (LAPO/Guilini) BRAHMS: Violin Concerto (Mutter/BPO/Karajan) BRITTEN: Peter Grimes (Pears/Watson/Britten) ELGAR: 'Cello Concerto (LSO/Barbirolli) MAHLER: Symphony No. 4 (Lott/LPO/Welser-Most) MOZART: Don Giovanni (Glyndebourne/Haitink) ORFF: Carmina Burana (LSO/Previn) WAGNER: Tristan & Isolde (Vickers/Dernesch/Karajan) WALTON: Belshazzar's Feast (RPO/Previn) DIVs: (although I'm not much of a film-goer, I'd like to be able to watch these) 2001: A Space Odyssey Bladerunner Dark Star Educating Rita Hamlet (Olivier's) Hannah & her Sisters A Hard Day's Night Life of Brian Manhatten Mona Lisa DIBs: (again one book per author, and I assume we get the Bible & Shakespeare anyway, as per Roy Plomley's radio show) JANE AUSTEN: Mansfield Park E.F. BENSON: Lucia in Trouble EMILY BRONTE: Wuthering Heights LEWIS CAROLL: Alice in Wonderland SAMUEL R. DELANY: Dhalgren THOMAS HARDY: Tess of the d'Urbervilles URSULA LE GUIN: The Left Hand of Darkness MERVYN PEAKE: Gormonghast ARTHUR RANSOME: Winter Holiday J.R.R. TOLKIEN: The Lord of the Rings Then I got onto thinking about (musical) stuff to take to an Island full of Ectophiles. My first list was: BARTOK: Violin Concertos (Chung &c.) BERG: Wozzeck (can't remember performers) BLISS: Morning Heroes (Blessed/LPO/Kibblewhite) BRUCKNER: Symphony No. 9 (BBCSO/Davies) LUTOSLAWSKI/STRAVINSKY: Chain 2 & Violin Concerto (Mutter &c.) JAMES MACMILLAN: The Confession of Isobel Gowdie & Tryst MESSIAEN: Turangulila-Symphonie (new recording with Chung) MILHAUD &c: Percussion Concertos (Glennie/SCO/???) STEVE REICH: Different Trains & Electronic Counterpoint (Kronos Qt/Methany) SHOSTAKOVICH: Trio (Stern/Ma/Ax) There's no pop or rock music there because (as can be readily deduced from my DIDs above) I have much more mainstream tastes than the average Ectophile so my collection doesn't have anything in it of the "you won't have heard this but I think you might like it" variety. Then I thought, well there's going to be all this obscurantist stuff people will be bringing to such a gathering that maybe it ought to be down to me to provide some balance with a small collection of my favourite albums by people that *EVERYBODY* knows. After all I have a CD collection almost half full of such stuff! So I came up with: ABBA: Greatest Hits, Volume 2 BEATLES: Sargeant Pepper ERIC CLAPTON: History of DEEP PURPLE: Made in Japan FLEETWOOD MAC: Rumours MOODY BLUES: A Question of Balance PINK FLOYD: Dark Side of the Moon RENAISSANCE: Turn of the Cards SUPERTRAMP: Breakfast in America RICK WAKEMAN: King Arthur ======================================================================== From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk Subject: DIDs &c Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 13:52:25 BST As with other people's submissions, these come with the caveat that they are my "off the top of my head" thoughts today and will *NOT* be the same tomorrow (or even in an hour's time)! DIDs: (these are (intended to be) in alphabetical order, and I restricted myself to one album per artist) KATE BUSH: Hounds of Love ELO: Eldorado GENESIS: ...and then there were three... PROCOL HARUM: Grand Hotel HAPPY RHODES: Warpaint JANE SIBERRY: Bound by the Beauty STEELEYE SPAN: Now We Are Six TALKING HEADS: The Name of this Band... TANGERINE DREAM: Ricochet TOYAH: Yoyah! Toyah! Toyah! "Classical" DIDs: (again, one choice per composer trying to achieve a balance between symphonies, concertos, operas, & choral works) BACH: Brandenberg Concertos (ECO/Leppard) BEETHOVEN: Symphony No. 5 (LAPO/Guilini) BRAHMS: Violin Concerto (Mutter/BPO/Karajan) BRITTEN: Peter Grimes (Pears/Watson/Britten) ELGAR: 'Cello Concerto (LSO/Barbirolli) MAHLER: Symphony No. 4 (Lott/LPO/Welser-Most) MOZART: Don Giovanni (Glyndebourne/Haitink) ORFF: Carmina Burana (LSO/Previn) WAGNER: Tristan & Isolde (Vickers/Dernesch/Karajan) WALTON: Belshazzar's Feast (RPO/Previn) DIVs: (although I'm not much of a film-goer, I'd like to be able to watch these) 2001: A Space Odyssey Bladerunner Dark Star Educating Rita Hamlet (Olivier's) Hannah & her Sisters A Hard Day's Night Life of Brian Manhatten Mona Lisa DIBs: (again one book per author, and I assume we get the Bible & Shakespeare anyway, as per Roy Plomley's radio show) JANE AUSTEN: Mansfield Park E.F. BENSON: Lucia in Trouble EMILY BRONTE: Wuthering Heights LEWIS CAROLL: Alice in Wonderland SAMUEL R. DELANY: Dhalgren THOMAS HARDY: Tess of the d'Urbervilles URSULA LE GUIN: The Left Hand of Darkness MERVYN PEAKE: Gormonghast ARTHUR RANSOME: Winter Holiday J.R.R. TOLKIEN: The Lord of the Rings Then I got onto thinking about (musical) stuff to take to an Island full of Ectophiles. My first list was: BARTOK: Violin Concertos (Chung &c.) BERG: Wozzeck (can't remember performers) BLISS: Morning Heroes (Blessed/LPO/Kibblewhite) BRUCKNER: Symphony No. 9 (BBCSO/Davies) LUTOSLAWSKI/STRAVINSKY: Chain 2 & Violin Concerto (Mutter &c.) JAMES MACMILLAN: The Confession of Isobel Gowdie & Tryst MESSIAEN: Turangulila-Symphonie (new recording with Chung) MILHAUD &c: Percussion Concertos (Glennie/SCO/???) STEVE REICH: Different Trains & Electronic Counterpoint (Kronos Qt/Methany) SHOSTAKOVICH: Trio (Stern/Ma/Ax) There's no pop or rock music there because (as can be readily deduced from my DIDs above) I have much more mainstream tastes than the average Ectophile so my collection doesn't have anything in it of the "you won't have heard this but I think you might like it" variety. Then I thought, well there's going to be all this obscurantist stuff people will be bringing to such a gathering that maybe it ought to be down to me to provide some balance with a small collection of my favourite albums by people that *EVERYBODY* knows. After all I have a CD collection almost half full of such stuff! So I came up with: ABBA: Greatest Hits, Volume 2 BEATLES: Sargeant Pepper ERIC CLAPTON: History of DEEP PURPLE: Made in Japan FLEETWOOD MAC: Rumours MOODY BLUES: A Question of Balance PINK FLOYD: Dark Side of the Moon RENAISSANCE: Turn of the Cards SUPERTRAMP: Breakfast in America RICK WAKEMAN: King Arthur You may be sick of 'em but I *LOVE* 'em! -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)