Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #650 ecto, Number 650 Thursday, 15 July 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: HR5 spotted! Re: Cocteau Twins Re: Penelope Houston's summer tour Re: stuff Cocteaux & other stuff A Bastille Day observance I'd like to see Birthday Project Plea! Re: A Bastille Day observance I'd like to see Ein Klaus fuer heute DIDs and DIVs. 10,000 Maniacs show ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Jul 93 14:36:07 PDT From: bear@tcs.com (h.w. neff) Subject: Re: HR5 spotted! # I was at Tower in Austin today, cruising past the newage section, when [...] # which he heard her doing some Bowie song. I doubletook and asked if I # could see the disk. He pulled it out of the promo rack -- there, # indeed, was HR5! [...] # Anyway, he said that, having heard HR5 and liked it, he'd be sure to # order more Happy. Yay! so, (recalling that it was a net only special 8^) who here amongst us could bring themselves to part with their copy of hr/5 ?? glad of the exposure too! hr/5: the closest thing this poor soul is likely to get to a hr concert in the forseeable future.... ttfn, bear. ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 19:17:23 +1000 (AEST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins In apana.lists.rec.happy-rhodes, article <9307131449.AA12711@ns1.rutgers.edu>, you wrote: > Hmm...I didn't realize that "The Pink Opaque" was a "best of" album. It's > the first one I was introduced to in high school and by far my favorite of > their albums... Maybe its my favorite because it was the first that I heard of > them and just fell in love.... It was compiled by the band for release in the US by Relativity Records in the hope of increasing their exposure there. There are a couple of mixes of early songs on there that aren't available anywhere else. > Isn't 4ad based in New York? If so, why does all their stuff have to be > imported? Nope, they are, and always have been, based in London. > Stay cool...(under 80 degrees if you can manage it).... Easy. It's under 50 here! Anthony ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "Not everybody likes me, but I don't like everybody either!" - Ilka Heber ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 19:22:50 +1000 (AEST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Penelope Houston's summer tour In apana.lists.rec.happy-rhodes, article <9307131559.AA03899@stein.u.washington.edu>, you wrote: > Penelope Houston and her band will be touring the WestCoast of the US > this summer: Oh wow - I had a copy of this land in my mailbox the other day ("The Whole World", that is), and while the cover indicated that it's something along the genre I prefer, I haven't had time to listen to it yet, having been sidetracked by the new Sylvian/Fripp album (with Ingrid Chavez on it! Yay!) and a wonderful new Melbourne artist by the name of Margot Smith, of whom I'll tell more later. So, opinions on Penelope, anyone? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "Not everybody likes me, but I don't like everybody either!" - Ilka Heber ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Jul 93 21:28:14 -0500 From: "Dennis G Parslow" Subject: Re: stuff >DATE: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 19:20:50 CST >FROM: kiri > >Hi folx! > >You're looking at WUMS's newest DJ :) Great! Congradulations!!! >I'm even getting paid! double :) Even better! >unfortunately I _have_ to play what they have in the books, >which doesn't include Happy or Kate (yes it's time to >have a talk with the music director). I did get to hear >a bit from Bjork's Solo album....sounds great! >Oh it also bites that in the rules you arn't supposed >to play two female artists in a row....all i can say is >puke on that rule.. :) Aliens must run policy at your station ;-) >(it's actually not a rule, but >a heavy suggestion) I'm going to be talking to the >station manager in a few weeks to see if i can do >a specialized show for an hour...since my show is >from 10-2 am on tues/thur and 2-6p on sat. >At any rate i'm totally excited... :) > >WOMAD in chicago??? *whimper* i wanna go! > >DIBS! :) >The stranger Camus >THe plague Camus Hmmmm...*Two* Camus books...That really says...something...I think... >Strands of Starlight Gael Baudino >Macho Sluts Pat Califia >any Anne McCaffery >Sister Light, Sister Dark Jane Yolen >Daughter of Regals Stephen Donaldson >any and all Anne Rice >Murphy Samuel Beckett >Great Expectations Dickens > >+ many many more...If i only had my library and 10 cds or so i would >be happy :) > >kiri Dennis Parslow What do you want? Do you want to go out? Troy, NY 12180 Do you want a cookie? Do you want me to p00421@psilink.com dial the number for you? Jane Siberry "Everything Reminds Me of My Dog" ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 15:20:28 -0400 From: ecurrent@sizone.jaywon.pci.on.ca (Mr. Plow) Subject: Cocteaux & other stuff A few assorted things from the desk of this mostly-lurker type... First, re: the Cocteau Twins thread. Well, for the person asking where they should start, I'd second the recommendation for THE PINK OPAQUE, since I recall it being a pretty nice collection (I don't actually own it, since I have all the "real" releases that T.P.O. is culled from). And as for the "real" releases, start with TREASURE. It's wonderful. And as for the questions regarding the "singles" box - well, first of all, the name is a bit of a misnomer, since most of the discs in the box would be better classified as EP's - only one of them is officially a "single" taken from a full-length release - and most of the material was *not* previously available on CD. In fact, the only ones I can think of that are available on disc elsewhere are SUNBURST AND SNOWBLIND (appears on the UK release of the HEAD OVER HEELS CD) and TINY DYNAMINE + ECHOES IN A SHALLOW BAY (the two were released together on a (now deleted) CD here in Canada). Of course, 9 of the 10 discs in the box are also available seperately (the 10th being the "4 rarities" disc). Anyway, this is all getting way too anal, so I'll stop now. :-) I do have a pretty complete Cocteaux discography, however, that I'm willing to send out to interested parties. On a similar note... could someone give me the address for the 4AD mailing list? Happy stuff now. I'll *finally* have the cash to order HR5 at the end of the week. Hope it's not sold out yet! :-( This past Saturday night, my wife and I went over to visit a friend who was housesitting a few blocks away, and he begged me to bring over some music since he'd only brought a couple of discs with him and the owner of the place he was sitting has pretty bad tatse musically (i.e. Michael Bolton) - he specifically requested some mellowish stuff, since we were just going to be sitting around talking and drinking. So, I brought along Cranes "Forever", Miranda Sex Garden "Suspiria", Dead Can Dance "Spleen and Ideal", and "Rearmament". They went into the 6 disc player along with Shawn's Current 93 "Earth Covers Earth" and his new Death In June on random play, and by the end of the evening, he was in love with Happy's stuff. In fact, he liked her so much that he got the address for A.G. - and he's planning to write to Happy to see if she'd be interested in contributing a track to a compilation disc that he's trying to put together! I don't know how Happy feels about such projects, but if it happens, it could provide some pretty good exposure for Happy amongst folks that might not normally hear of her - aside from some exposure here in Canada, Shawn has a *lot* of contacts in Europe on several different distribution channels. Anyway, I don't want to say too much, because I don't know how definate this project is... it's something that Shawn *really* wants to do (the comp in general, not just Happy's contribution), but, like most things in life, it boils down to $$$. We'll see what happens. Whatever the case, I put together a Happy collection for Shawn so he can get a better listen to her stuff. Here's what I put on it... SIDE A SIDE B ------ ------ from RHODES I: from ECTO: Rainkeeper Would That I Could Given In Project 499 Case of Glass Ode The Wretches Gone Awry Don't Want To Hear It Suicide Song from WARPAINT: from RHODES II: Feed The Fire Come Here Phobos The Revelation Words Weren't Made For Cowards Under and Over the Brink One Alien from EQUIPOISE: To The Funny Farm He Will Come Save Our Souls from REARMAMENT: Temporary and Eternal Perfect Irony Crystal Orbs Because I Learn Ally Ally Oxenfree Since I tried to pull about 15 minutes or so of material from each release, I obviously ended up with more titles from the earlier albums (no 6+ minute songs there!), but I still think it's a pretty balanced overview. Any opinions? ALSO on the subject of exposing Happy to more Torontoians... yesterday, a friend of our's who is a Kate Bush fanatic was over while I was at work, and my wife played her some Happy, which she loved (of course). Well, it seems that the reason that Liisa had dropped by was to get Krista (my wife) to help her put together a logo and letterhead for The Ninth Wave, a 'zine that Liisa is trying to get started up. Despite the name, The Ninth Wave is *not* strictly a Kate 'zine - it's subtitle is something like "A Journal Of Nocturnal Culture" or something, so it's more of a gothic-oriented publication, I suppose. Anyway, Liisa asked Krista if we'd be interested in writing a feature on Happy for the first issue, and she said "sure", but just this morning, I had an even *better* idea: why not *interview* Happy? So, Vickie (or anyone else who might know...) - do you think Happy would be interested in doing an interview for this? It's not a major magazine or anything, but it's sonething that will spread quickly amongst the "underground" here in Toronto, and I'm sure at least a few orders will some out of it. I think current plans are for the first issue to come out in the fall sometime - is that before, during, or after the planned tour? If it's after, perhaps we could do an interview or something when they hit Toronto. But of it's before or during, perhaps it could be a nice tie-in to the planned Toronto show. Anyway, I suppose my best bet would be to get all the details I can from Liisa, and then mention it in the letter I enclose with my HR5 order. And I'll probably make a copy of my Happy sampler for Liisa as well. :-) And if anyone happens to be talking to Happy or Kevin or someone else... tell them to SAVE A COPY OF HR5 FOR ME! My order is on the way! Really! :-) (I know, I know... "first come, first served"... I'm kidding...) Greg Clow - asst. sysadmin, Sonic Interzone BBS - (416) 968-7292 ecurrent@sizone.jaywon.pci.on.ca ecurrent@internex.io.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not politcally incorrect... I'm politically challenged. ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 17:16:26 CDT From: Subject: A Bastille Day observance I'd like to see While lunching on tarragon chicken salad and brie on a croissant with bearnaise sauce and a large dark french roast coffee at Au Bon Pain, on which I got a dollar off with my coupon, the thought hit me that an appropriate way to comm- emorate the correctional uprising of July 14, 1789 would be for some theatre ot TV station to exhibit a French-subtitled--or better yet, French-dubbed-- print of the film _Riot in Cell Block 11_. Just a thought :-). Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Jul 93 21:31 EDT From: robert@deepspace.nj00802.sai.com (Robert Lovejoy) Subject: Birthday Project Plea! Hey there Hi there Ho there! I just returned from my brother-in-laws mini-studio, where I recorded my Happy Birthday Project tape. I did the best I could, honest, but the total time insists on being 14:20. Doug's note specifically specifies a ten minute limit; So pleeze pleeze please kin I submit the 14 minute tape? Pretty please? It features two original compositions and I spoke my own introduction. One composition has a full band, the other is a multi-track demo. There is also a very very short non-original piece of music by way of a tiny bass solo. I promise to be good! I'll put spare change in those help-the-victim collections at small stores. I won't pipe any more posts through Jethro! I'll buy all the Kate Bush albums I don't have! Anything! How about it, Doug? Just this once? I'm posting this plea to the list so if anyone really objects I can find out. I think you'll all like the music, though. It is a bit on the ethereal side, spacey if you will. And it's just four extra minutes... How about it folks, is it OK with you? Sheesh, I feel like a public television announcer during pledge week, begging for contributions. Help this man's self-esteem, will you, and vote yes to proposition 1!! Let Bob go over the limit yet again! My feeble fate is in your hands! Bob the lengthy... ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Jul 93 22:17:51 EDT From: jessica Subject: Re: A Bastille Day observance I'd like to see Mitch says: > While lunching on tarragon chicken salad and brie on a croissant with > bearnaise sauce and a large dark french roast coffee at Au Bon Pain, > on which I got a dollar off with my coupon, [...] Hmm. I had turkey and brie on a croissant at Au Bon Pain today. I didn't get a dollar off :) And I haven't any witty or interesting or happy related comments at the moment... I just thought it unusal for someone else to have had a something and brie on croissant at Au Bon Pain the same day i did! (not something i do every day, though it'll probably happen more often now that i'm taking a class that has a break at 7:30, a block from an Au Bon Pain). jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 23:52:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Ein Klaus fuer heute Hi! Going back through posts I've saved for later, I now proudly present ein Klaus! Vickie said about Rhodes I: }Talking about the early albums specifically, the truly amazing }thing about it is that the music is so....um...."simple"....on }the surface....yet, none of the albums, none of the songs have }ever sounded anything but fresh and wonderful. Right on the money. I could listen for days. In fact, I think I'll put it on right now! :) }Happy's albums are....it's like wandering around and stumbling }over something and you go "what's that?" and you look and it's }-yay!- a suprise! A treat! Happy's albums are bags of goodies and jewels and }sweets, a bottomless bag, every one, for all time. You should send that paragraph to Happy for use as a quote on promotional materials. No joke. It's brilliant. Not to mention true. Hm, I can think of another artist for whom one could say that... she sounds remarkably like Happy at times, too! ;) Mitch suggests: }WRT Doug's call for ideas for a birthday gift for Happy: I }recently came across a book on women in science fiction, a genre }that Happy likes. The frequent buyer program at a local }bookstore I frequent has won me gift certificates, which I could }use to acquire a copy very economically. I was just typing something in agreement to this when in IDEA clicked into my fading brain: Happy has mentioned not having read Anne Rice, right? Well, don't you think she should read at least _Interview With The Vampire_ before her music gets used in the movie? ;) }later on, another dj (mikaela mejoun) at wxpn had an argument on }the air with the other dj's, during which she convinced everyone }at the station that they should pronounce the album title }"equipwas" lest they suffer more public ridicule at her hands. People are idiots, and should be shot on sight. }she needs to learn that doing a show of all female artists does }*not* mean playing only those artists who sound identical to the }indigo girls; there are tons and tons of women out there who are }doing really interesting things, and *that* is what women's hour }should celebrate, not just folk, more folk, and a couple pop }songs we've all heard before. Hey brni, what's her address? Vickie and I could send her tapes of our shows and show her how's it's done. ;) (Although I do readily admit to having played Indigo Girls on my show just last week...) }41 people have died from the heat in philadelphia this past }week. :( Why so many in Philly, or is it just that the news reports are focusing on that city alone? Anthony mentioned: }I can't quote any more of your message - wow, unique one. I }showed up fine in my newsreader, but once it hit my editor, }which shows control codes on screen instead of acting upon them, }I was confronted by almost 2 pages of Cntrl-H's - and all the }characters that you had backspaced over that didn't show up in }the newsreader! So now I know how many typing mistakes you made! }Hee hee... :-) Now you know why I stuck that disclaimer on the end there... I like footah's computer, but I don't think footah's computer likes me. I know woj's doesn't. *sigh* }Anyway, to the subject. I don't think that titles such as those }are at all unusual for Kate; considering some of the lyrics of }her other songs, let alone the titles of some of them. Yeah, but... but... but... Although after I read this from Albert (whose DID list bears an uncanny resemblance to what mine would look like right about now), I resigned myself to the truth of the matter: }P.S. Meredith, I'm sorry, but I have to punch a hole in you }theory. In a recent newsletter from the Dutch Kate Bush fanclub }(Kate), they mention that "Eat the Music" is indeed the first }single from _The Red Shoes_. They got their information from }EMI Holland. "Big Stripy Lie" is a reference to the American }flag. If "Big Stripy Lie" = the American Flag, then I'm all for it, then. :) KaTe waxes political again... oh, my. September 14th can't come too soon for me! kIrI reports: }You're looking at WUMS's newest DJ :) Yay!!! Congratulations! Well, almost... }unfortunately I _have_ to play what they have in the books, Ugh. I'm psyched for you, Kiri, but I could never do that. The planning and programming are the reason radio is so much fun for me- I go in every week with a vague idea of a few things I definitely want to do, but most of the time I just play a few songs and let the music lead me where it will, guided by the occasional request. That usually results in some very long and bizarre sets, because even though I know it's long past time for me to back-announce and read some announcements there's just *one* more song that would fit perfectly here, and oh look, here's another, this set would be nothing without this, and... The extreme narrow-mindedness of our music directors as to what gets added into the New Release rack and what gets lost in the chaotic morass that is the "library" fries me no end, if they were preordaining what I had to play as well, I'd be out of there in a second. The "playlists" that WESU posts to CMJ and the Gavin Report et al. bear no resemblance whatsoever to anything I would ever play on my show... I can count on one hand the times something has matched up in four years. }Oh it also bites that in the rules you arn't supposed }to play two female artists in a row....all i can say is }puke on that rule.. :) (it's actually not a rule, but }a heavy suggestion) Sorry, but that blows chunks. I hope you intend to erode this system from within, Kiri! Oh no, we're doing BOOKS now, too??? }Strands of Starlight Gael Baudino Yay!!! I'm about halfway through this, and it's an amazing work. Baudino is an amazing writer with an interesting worldview, to say the least... }Sister Light, Sister Dark Jane Yolen ... speaking of amazing writers with vision, here's another one. Besides being one of the nicest human beings on the planet (and the mother of Adam Stemple, newly of Boiled In Lead :), she has been blessed with one of the rarest of artistic gifts, that of the true Storyteller. You haven't lived until you've witnessed a storytelling duel between Jane and Bruce Coville (another writer better known for his childrens and young-adult work). Hmmm, which books would I bring with me? A Wrinkle in Time- Madeliene L'Engle Elidor- Alan Garner The Complete Works of Franz Kafka (cheating, I know ;) Langenscheidts German-English Dictionary (I'd have the Kafka in the original, don't you know) The Waste Land- T.S. Eliot (at least on the island I'd have time to figure this one out...) Jaran- Kate Elliott Rite of Passage- Alexei Panshin The Last Battle- C.S. Lewis The sequel to Mark Twain's _The Innocents Abroad_, the title of which I have just utterly blanked out on... you know, the one where he's in Germany and climbs an Alp and... argh! The Sandman: The Dolls House- Neil Gaiman et al. No Champagne Jam playlist this week- last night I enjoyed yet another amazing performance by Bela Fleck and the Flecktones. Their new album, "Three Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" will be out in September, and promises to be their best yet. Bela's getting really good with his e-bowed banjo. :) I also got to talk to him for a few minutes- really nice guy. See them if you can, you won't regret it! Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 21:41:56 -0700 (PDT) From: the butcher Subject: DIDs and DIVs. I agree with Neile. This is hard to do. Here are my lists. Items are in no particular order. DIDs: David Bowie, Scary Monsters Talking Heads, Little Creatures My Bloody Valentine, Loveless Happy Rhodes, Warpaint Depeche Mode, Music for the Masses Madame X, Madame X Siouxsie and the Banshees, Peepshow Eurythmics, Savage Prince, Lovesexy The Who, Quadrophenia Again, following Neile (and who wouldn't want to?), some honorable mentions: Kate Bush, The Dreaming Brian Eno, Here Come the Warm Jets Jane's Addiction, Ritual de lo Habitual Sonic Youth, Daydream Nation Mudhoney, Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge The Beatles, Abbey Road The B-52s, The B-52s YMO, BMG Stevie Wonder, Innervisions Velvet Underground, Velvet Underground DIVs: Eraserhead Citizen Kane Alien Brazil Edward II Koyaanisqatsi The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Animal Crackers Auntie Mame Love and Death Honorables: Mahler The Cook The Thief His Wife and Her Lover Star Trek VI: The Undiscoverd Country After Hours Pee-wee's Big Adventure Blade Runner (The Director's Cut) Dr. Strangelove Persona Rumble Fish Waterloo Haven't devised a DIBs list yet. Will post soon! - the butcher of culture ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 01:42:50 -0500 From: "Dennis G Parslow" Subject: 10,000 Maniacs show Had a great time...they played most of the In My Tribe stuff, as well as a balanced mix of the others. An interesting mosh of "Do you remember this random 60's song?" But she has a backup vocals/violinist who bears a striking resemblance to the former vocalist/violinist of Camper Van Beethoven. Any clues? Dennis Parslow What do you want? Do you want to go out? Troy, NY 12180 Do you want a cookie? Do you want me to p00421@psilink.com dial the number for you? Jane Siberry "Everything Reminds Me of My Dog" ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)