27-Jun-91 17:01:09-GMT,1556;000000000011 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18939; Thu, 27 Jun 91 13:00:05 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA02090; Thu, 27 Jun 91 10:23:36 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Thu, 27 Jun 91 10:24:40 +0200 Message-Id: <9106270824.AA19450@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: stuff A big 'thank you' to Jessica for sharing her meeting with Happy and Kevin. I'm afraid in case of any Happy-events in Albany or Mass. I won't be able to join unless you're talking about these places near Dortmund in Germany, which I don't know about :-) :-( . There might be a chance (about that --> . size) that I'll be in Boston in the last quarter of this year. Is that anyway near? I've no map at hand and my knowledge of american geography is unmentionable. Although once you've made the jump over the ocean anything less than 500 miles is near. My opinion about putting the 4 tapes on CD: Yeah, thats great! I'd like to see them on CD. _Much_more_ I would like to see money and effort put to a new CD, though. Bye, Klaus. _________________________________________________________ | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | | --- Happy Rhodes --- | | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge kkluge@Materna.DE | 27-Jun-91 18:32:10-GMT,669;000000000001 Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA29948; Thu, 27 Jun 91 14:31:49 EDT Received: from GUESSWHO (mac126.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-ACNS-1.04) id AA07698; Thu, 27 Jun 91 13:31:23 CDT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 91 13:31:23 CDT From: barger@ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9106271831.AA07698@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Hey, I just figured it out >You know why Happy is holding her fingers like that on the cover of >Warpaint? (Answer tomorrow.) Hmmm... Nobody cares? or everybody but me thought it was obvious? She's making warpaint-stripes with her fingers... 27-Jun-91 18:32:10-GMT,669;000000000011 Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA29948; Thu, 27 Jun 91 14:31:49 EDT Received: from GUESSWHO (mac126.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-ACNS-1.04) id AA07698; Thu, 27 Jun 91 13:31:23 CDT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 91 13:31:23 CDT From: barger@ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9106271831.AA07698@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Hey, I just figured it out >You know why Happy is holding her fingers like that on the cover of >Warpaint? (Answer tomorrow.) Hmmm... Nobody cares? or everybody but me thought it was obvious? She's making warpaint-stripes with her fingers... 27-Jun-91 18:46:10-GMT,896;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01812; Thu, 27 Jun 91 14:45:59 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01728; Thu, 27 Jun 91 14:45:54 EDT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 91 14:45:52 EDT From: jessica To: barger@ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Cc: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Hey, I just figured it out In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 27 Jun 91 13:31:23 CDT Message-Id: I cared! I was just waiting for the answer :) jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 27-Jun-91 18:46:42-GMT,1024;000000000001 Received: from silver.chem.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01879; Thu, 27 Jun 91 14:46:28 EDT Received: from stella.chem.nwu.edu by silver.chem.nwu.edu (5.52/90.5.1.SDD) (for ecto@cs.RUTGERS.EDU) id AA16264; Thu, 27 Jun 91 13:46:39 CDT Received: by chem.nwu.edu (1.1/901020.SDD) (for @silver.chem.nwu.edu:ecto@cs.rutgers.edu) id AA04046; Thu, 27 Jun 91 13:46:33 CDT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 91 13:46:33 CDT From: stern@chem.nwu.edu (Charlotte Stern) Message-Id: <9106271846.AA04046@chem.nwu.edu> To: barger@ils.nwu.edu, ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Hey, I just figured it out Cc: stern@chem.nwu.edu From barger@ils.nwu.edu Thu Jun 27 13:35 CDT 1991 Subject: Re: Hey, I just figured it out >You know why Happy is holding her fingers like that on the cover of >Warpaint? (Answer tomorrow.) (A) Hmmm... Nobody cares? or (B) everybody but me thought it was obvious? She's making warpaint-stripes with her fingers... BZZZZZZZZZ. Mike buzzes in with an answer. "(B)," he says. -mjm:-) 27-Jun-91 18:51:19-GMT,1145;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA02389; Thu, 27 Jun 91 14:51:05 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA19502; Thu, 27 Jun 91 14:50:56 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 91 14:50:56 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9106271850.AA19502@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Hey, I just figured it out Jorn elucidates: >>You know why Happy is holding her fingers like that on the cover of >>Warpaint? (Answer tomorrow.) > >Hmmm... Nobody cares? or everybody but me thought it was obvious? She's >making warpaint-stripes with her fingers... i thought it was the cub scout salute... ;-} re covers: does Happy paint regularly? are there more of those terrifying monsteroid portraits sitting in her living room? color inserts do add to the cost, but if any of the earlier albums end up on CD, i hope we get more of these pictures... footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot 27-Jun-91 19:01:28-GMT,880;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA03669; Thu, 27 Jun 91 15:01:13 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA20149; Thu, 27 Jun 91 15:01:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 91 15:01:03 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9106271901.AA20149@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: boston -> albany Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge inquires: > There might be a chance (about that --> . size) that I'll be in Boston in > the last quarter of this year. Is that anyway near? the drive from boston to albany takes about 4 hours, give or take. it's a nice drive (but a long bus ride). footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot 27-Jun-91 19:09:33-GMT,1311;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04823; Thu, 27 Jun 91 15:09:20 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA20748; Thu, 27 Jun 91 15:09:15 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 91 15:09:15 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9106271909.AA20748@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: email and happy-mail maybe it's just me, but it's a little disorienting to see all these familiar love-hound names in a different context... so far, every communication i've had with Aural Gratification has been replied to with a personal note from Happy or Kevin (and not just a rote reply either...) do they always do this? it's delightful! BTW, i saw another Albany female vocalist last night: Lonesome Val. she opened up for Chris Stamey and Peter Holsapple (formerly of the dBs) here in boston. apart from geographical origin, Val didn't have much in common with Happy; she sings sorta rock-country, with decidedly (oppresively?) upbeat lyrics. enjoyable, but overshadowed by the incredible show by Chris and Peter... footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot 27-Jun-91 20:26:40-GMT,1138;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16517; Thu, 27 Jun 91 16:26:26 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA06384; Thu, 27 Jun 91 16:26:13 EDT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 91 16:26:11 EDT From: jessica To: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: boston -> albany In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 27 Jun 91 15:01:03 -0400 Message-Id: greg says: the drive from boston to albany takes about 4 hours, give or take. it's a nice drive (but a long bus ride). but this would actually happen in monterey mass. (near great barrington, on a map - east of it) Which is an hour east of albany, so the drive from boston is only 3 hours :) jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 27-Jun-91 20:28:25-GMT,1166;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16683; Thu, 27 Jun 91 16:28:17 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA06498; Thu, 27 Jun 91 16:28:07 EDT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 91 16:28:06 EDT From: jessica To: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Cc: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: email and happy-mail In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 27 Jun 91 15:09:15 -0400 Message-Id: speaking of personal mail back from happy and kevin - I too got a note form Kevin when i sent away for the cd in the first place, and just yesterday I received a letter from happy thanking me for setting up the mailing list and talking baout her concern of what's happened on gaffa. (She sent the letter before we met :) jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 27-Jun-91 21:00:25-GMT,1559;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20298; Thu, 27 Jun 91 17:00:02 EDT Received: from M66-305-1.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA01969; Thu, 27 Jun 91 17:00:04 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by m66-305-1.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA27424; Thu, 27 Jun 91 16:59:53 -0400 Message-Id: <9106272059.AA27424@m66-305-1.MIT.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy concerts Date: Thu, 27 Jun 91 16:59:51 EDT Hi, Well in the letter I enclosed with my order of Warpaint and Vol.II and Rearmament, I ask Happy if she'd be willing to give a concert here at MIT (in Cambridge, MA). There are several auditoriums that I could have access to and with a little advertising around campus, and maybe in the Phoenix it could generate quite an attendance. I haven't investigated the logistics of such an event, and of course haven't heard back from Happy about it, but I think it would be a great idea. Maybe it can get organized for say around Halloween (and use Happy's monsters for advertising posters). (Yeah, dream on Angelos...) It could also be a concert/discussion type thing. In any case it doesn't hurt to ask her, right? 'Anxiously awaiting the rest of happy's stuff'- Angelos +-------------------------------------------------------+ | 'Culture shocked eyes that hide the fears | | Eroded cheeks from acid tears | | Where every smile escapes my face | | To seek refuge in a happier place' | | hApPy RhOdEs 'Possessed'| +-------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Jun-91 10:07:49-GMT,2556;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA14587; Fri, 28 Jun 91 06:07:11 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA04447; Fri, 28 Jun 91 12:04:19 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Fri, 28 Jun 91 12:05:22 +0200 Message-Id: <9106281005.AA23856@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: more stuff There are days when I'm annoyed about the net. After reading Jessicas short message about her meeting with Happy and Kevin I got four notes from people who already responded to the details of the day. Arrrrrrgh! Sounded like they were talking about the most interesting message in ecto of the last 10 years :-) and I didn't read it. Eventually it arrived, 2 days later, so I've calmed down again. Does anybody know if Happy likes reading, and what she is reading? 'Phobos' and 'Wrong Century' gave me the impression that she's into reading SF. If nowbody comes up with an answer I would like to ask Vickie to put that onto her list of interview-questions. Last night (while my machine at home did a 3 hour memory test) I finally found the time to read the 'Warpaint' lyrics while listening to the CD and try to make a connection from the music I know so well by now, to the lyrics and the songtitles. I thought about writing about my three favourite songs from 'Warpaint', but I can't. Half of the songs are favourites and the other half is just one step behind. >>>>> gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) wrote > maybe it's just me, but it's a little disorienting to see all these > familiar love-hound names in a different context... No, not at all. It's just the viewpoint: the context is not different, we're all talking about wonderful music. > so far, every communication i've had with Aural Gratification has > been replied to with a personal note from Happy or Kevin (and not > just a rote reply either...) do they always do this? it's delightful! Well, I did not get a personal note on my first order. Just the tape/CD and their catalogue, but I just wrote a formal order so that was no surprise. Tschuess, Klaus. _________________________________________________________ | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | | --- Happy Rhodes --- | | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge kkluge@Materna.DE | 29-Jun-91 5:30:29-GMT,513;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA12947; Sat, 29 Jun 91 01:29:59 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA15692; Sat, 29 Jun 91 01:29:58 EDT Date: Sat, 29 Jun 91 01:29:58 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9106290529.AA15692@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto have been listening to ecto on headphones can finally hear it all it's just brilliant. the whole album i mean. really wonderful. jessica 29-Jun-91 22:10:49-GMT,964;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA07383; Sat, 29 Jun 91 18:10:28 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA04452; Sat, 29 Jun 91 17:17:41 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Sat, 29 Jun 91 08:10:32 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA25485; Sat, 29 Jun 91 08:10:31 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.4) id ; Fri, 28 Jun 91 18:17 CDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 Jun 91 18:17 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: hmmm did two of my posts bounceomatic??? I hope not, but it looks like they have. Ill have to repost later. sorry about the nonHappiness of this letter... Kiri "I hate my new job...it's sooooooo boring" hargie@chinet.chi.il.us hargieka@clutx.clarkson.edu 29-Jun-91 22:22:32-GMT,1807;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA07979; Sat, 29 Jun 91 18:22:22 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA04319; Sat, 29 Jun 91 17:15:41 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Fri, 28 Jun 91 15:09:31 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA13924; Fri, 28 Jun 91 15:09:28 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.4) id ; Thu, 27 Jun 91 18:37 CDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 27 Jun 91 18:37 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: re: greg asks if there are more monster paintings....from what Vickie has told me about what Happy has told her Happy's whole apartment is covered with those monster paintings that I guess she does paint herself. As for the Warpaint cover I agree with Jorn, I've always thought it was her way of `signing' the making of warpaint stripes. I wouldn't know about the cub scout salute, but having some idea of her bizarre humor I could see her doing it. As for getting a note with each order, yup the same response came when I ordered. When Court ordered her tapes came back autographed without even asking. Happy also seems to reply to mail - if it is bizarre enough. Klaus - if you're gonna be in Boston that is very close - well relatively speaking compared to the whole size of the states. If it ends up she is going to have a concert, and I will be on the east coast then I would be willing to come to Boston and drive you to Albany - I always have friends to visit in Boston so it's absolutely no problem. Guess we will all just have to wait and see for now. kirstin hargie@chinet.chi.il.us 29-Jun-91 22:27:38-GMT,2264;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08174; Sat, 29 Jun 91 18:27:33 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA04454; Sat, 29 Jun 91 17:17:45 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Sat, 29 Jun 91 08:14:12 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA25499; Sat, 29 Jun 91 08:14:10 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.4) id ; Fri, 28 Jun 91 19:33 CDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 Jun 91 19:33 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: one more day till volume ii comes....I finally transferred the lyrics, cleaned them up for a good read...and eventual listen. The two letts that seem to be missing, though it may be a chinet glitch or slowpokiness, basically said that I agree with Jorn about the warpaint cover..that's what I always thought it meant. I also offered Klaus a ride from Boston to w. mass if necessary. I love Boston so any excuse to go there is an immediate attraction. Plus I always had the dream of turning my Lobster in a Rhodeie mobile! Even though my Sebastian doll in the windshield has Kate buttons on it. I also brought up the idea of having a concert to Kevin oh back in March. Where I go to university there are two other unis in the area. Making a diverse background of music listeners. I was going to try to get some support (of any kind) from our radio station, but I don't know if we have the money or ambition. Anyway at the time he thought it would be a great idea to occur sometime in the fall. But if we are going to persuade Happy to have it in mass. at the end of aug or whenever....please very end of aug....(beg and grovel) then I can forgo the plans. I think it would be soooo cool if we can get people together to get a mini-concert, i would even consider paying a little Happy adoration fee if necessary. Enough for now...my phone is tired of being tied up, and im about to collapse from the scorching heat....please Kate if you are god(ess) turn on the natural a/c in the midwest. Kiri hargie@chinet.chi.il.us hargieka@clutx.clarkson.edu 29-Jun-91 22:36:03-GMT,1903;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08816; Sat, 29 Jun 91 18:35:56 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA23693; Sat, 29 Jun 91 18:35:54 EDT Date: Sat, 29 Jun 91 18:35:54 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9106292235.AA23693@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: about a concert in mass. Kiri mentions being willing to pay Happy an "adoration fee" :) I tihnk it'd be really great if all the people who wanted to go would give some amount of money, perhaps just $5? And we'd split it, maybe 2/3rd to Happy and 1/3rd to my grandparents for allowing us the use of their place for a mini-concert? (my grandparents usually get $500-$1000 for the use of their place. If my grandmother likes happy (which she does, and I asked her for me :) :) we could get away with having it there for free, though i tihnk it would be nice to offer them something ;) ) I sent mail to a list i'm on last night with lyrics to two songs from ecto that i was listening to because it was a very powerful experience, hearing those songs then with how i was feeling, and I generally share that kind of experience with that list. I've had two responses asking about what i was listening too, and i sent them each back an explanation (long, i tend to ramble) and one of them has sent back already saying she's going to order something next week and asking to be put on the mailing list already! (Hi shark :) It's very exciting to find the number of people who know of/like Happy to be constantly growing. I'm playing the music so much. Almost any time someone comes in my office and hears the music, they ask who it is. it *is* very similar to what happens when i play kate :) speaking of which, i'm gonna make a posting to gaffa, much as i hate to add to controversy. I just have some comments ;) jessica 30-Jun-91 2:57:18-GMT,1457;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA27855; Sat, 29 Jun 91 22:57:08 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA12564; Sat, 29 Jun 91 22:57:04 -0400 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 91 22:57:04 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9106300257.AA12564@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: concerted effort... hmm, i missed the first few days of this list, and thus (apparently) the details of this concert thing... sould some kind soul repeat the when/where/etc. of it? living near boston as i do, the idea of a mass. concert is wonderful!!! on the flip side, i'm gonna be in italy sometime at the end of august: please please don't tell me i'll miss the show... BTW, i am a (part-time) professional soundman, with reasonable credentials and equipment. if this show does work out, i would be happy to contribute time and gadgets... any of you lucky souls who have met Happy and Kevin know what kind of equipment they use? (i.e. synths, computers/sequencers, etc.) you know, i actually *like* all those cheap synth sounds on the tapes -- i think the 'tension' between the folky guitar and the bweepy keyboards adds to the off-kilter effect of the songs... footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot 30-Jun-91 3:19:29-GMT,1595;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA29781; Sat, 29 Jun 91 23:19:24 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA12992; Sat, 29 Jun 91 23:19:21 -0400 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 91 23:19:21 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9106300319.AA12992@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu, love-hounds@eddie.mit.edu Subject: is it me, or is it hot in here... jessica happily states: > Well i had the opportunity to meet happy rhodes in person this >past weekend. She is very upset about what's happened on gaffa, she >feels very responsible. I tried to explain to her that she shouldn't >feel that way. *she* didn't do anything to aggravate people here. her >*music* didn't do anything to aggravate people here. And besides, >people here _can_ be difficult, admit it :) good KaTe, someone explain to Happy about flame-wars! lesson one: *ignore them*. and this wasn't even a very intense one, at that... speaking of which, i hope you will all forgive me for mentioning ms. M from the motor-city: i guess i shoulda known it would only stir up the flames. i am quite happy-SORRY-glad to: >...talk about kate. finally, Richard "Squidster" Caldwell sends via subspace: >[look, you had to be there...] man, whatever it is Richard's been ingesting, i gotta get some... foooootah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "I thought that was pretty reasonable given that it must be difficult for them to maintain a sense of humor what with having their limbs attached in all the wrong places and all." N. R. Caldwell 30-Jun-91 22:47:43-GMT,1617;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09048; Sun, 30 Jun 91 18:47:24 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA27135; Sun, 30 Jun 91 18:17:14 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Sun, 30 Jun 91 15:20:51 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA10133; Sun, 30 Jun 91 14:15:57 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.4) id ; Sun, 30 Jun 91 13:23 CDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 30 Jun 91 13:23 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Phobos Jessica mentions in gaffa that she loves the song Phobos....I agree. BUT, the real reason I bring this up is that I am willing to go out and get somemore postcards of Phobos (i get them at the [CJust send me a quick note or leave a mention at the end of a post if you would like one. It may be a couple of weeks, but I can get them fairly easily. I already sent one to Happy, and the little ugly moon has a special place in my space collage. Kiri hargie@chinet.chi.il.us p.s. I would be more than willing to pay $5 or more to see Happy sing. ----added oddity----- in my last post I prayed to the godish qualities in Kate to turn on the natural a/c in the midwest....a mere 24 hours later the temp has dropped a good 20 degrees....wow! Thanks Kate...hehehehe 1-Jul-91 12:28:52-GMT,2280;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16832; Mon, 1 Jul 91 08:28:25 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA09748; Mon, 1 Jul 91 14:25:43 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Mon, 1 Jul 91 14:26:51 +0200 Message-Id: <9107011226.AA03497@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: much more stuff ___ THE MYSTERY OF THE MISSING SILENCE ___ Has somebody noticed that "Phobos" goes into "Wrong Century"? These are the only songs I've found, although currently I've only listened to "Warpaint" and "Ecto" (will be fixed soon :) ). Between all the other songs there is a noticeable silence, so I'm sure it's on purpose. Any ideas about Happys intention? Do you see a connection between these two songs? ___ HELP A POOR FOREIGN SOUL TO UNDERSTAND HAPPYs LYRICS ___ Can somebody help me to understand a line in the lyrics? I can't remember the song title, but the lines go something very close to "Are you dancing dead, maybe walking toast." What does "walking toast" mean? I've noticed that someone used it as a name in gaffa too, so it must be a standing expression, but I haven't found it in my dictionary. --- Kirstin wrote: > about to collapse from the scorching heat....please Kate if you > are god(ess) turn on the natural a/c in the midwest. No! Pleeease! Don't turn on the a/c! Just send your extra degrees to central europe (by air mail). It's supposed to be summer but it seems nobody told the guy in charge (just took out a scarf again). We'll take good care of your degrees and send them back when you need them. :) Thanks, Klaus. +--- Dreaming Dreams --- by BlackMist --+--------------------------+ | Dreaming dreams of distant places | K l a u s K l u g e | | Where the white unicorn races | aka Unicornuus Marinus | | through the land of wishful thinking | kkluge@Materna.DE | | and you wake!!!!!...Blinking +--------------------------+ | and you wonder if it was just a dream | | or do unicorns really play, by those island streams...... | 1-Jul-91 14:57:01-GMT,1010;000000000001 Received: from silver.chem.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA29518; Mon, 1 Jul 91 10:56:38 EDT Received: from stella.chem.nwu.edu by silver.chem.nwu.edu (5.52/90.5.1.SDD) (for ecto@cs.rutgers.edu) id AA21242; Mon, 1 Jul 91 09:57:23 CDT Received: by chem.nwu.edu (1.1/901020.SDD) (for @silver.chem.nwu.edu:ecto@cs.rutgers.edu) id AA05998; Mon, 1 Jul 91 09:57:21 CDT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 91 09:57:21 CDT From: stern@chem.nwu.edu (Charlotte Stern) Message-Id: <9107011457.AA05998@chem.nwu.edu> To: chinet!hargie@clout.chi.il.us, ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Phobos Cc: stern@chem.nwu.edu Jon Drukman could never figure out why Kiri (<--- new nickname?) writes: > > ----added oddity----- > in my last post I prayed to the godish qualities in Kate to turn > on the natural a/c in the midwest....a mere 24 hours later the > temp has dropped a good 20 degrees....wow! Thanks Kate...hehehehe > Hey, she didn't call it the Meteorological Mix for nothing, y'know. -couldntresistmjm 1-Jul-91 15:58:09-GMT,1339;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05808; Mon, 1 Jul 91 11:57:57 EDT Received: from M66-305-1.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA02683; Mon, 1 Jul 91 11:58:00 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by m66-305-1.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA15274; Mon, 1 Jul 91 11:57:50 -0400 Message-Id: <9107011557.AA15274@m66-305-1.MIT.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Note from Kevin Date: Mon, 01 Jul 91 11:57:48 EDT Hi again, Well-I received my Vol. II, Rearmament tapes and Warpaint CD today, and none were autographed :-( BUT, I received an answer from Kevin to some of my questions. THe important stuff follows: "Hopefully around December we'll have the other releases on CD (hopefully!). At least on or two...We're also working on a live show. We again *hope* to be performing in the fall. We'd love to do MIT if we're ready.[YEAH!]Aside from the time involved, finding players, etc. it's a very expensive prospect to tour. Although the very favorable airplay and label interest may facilitate that. We'll keep you posted!" Apparently they are not planning simple acoustic/synthesized shows, but more elaborate performances! I don't know if MIT is ready for them now :-) I have to get back to work, so that I can listen to Vol. II on my walkman ;-) Any comments? Angelos 1-Jul-91 16:00:44-GMT,558;000000000001 Received: by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA06184; Mon, 1 Jul 91 12:00:22 EDT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 91 12:00:22 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu (jessica) Message-Id: <9107011600.AA06184@aramis.rutgers.edu> To: ecto Subject: oooh! re: note from kevin that's great news! Kevin asked me about rutgers and if they host concerts like that and I said yes but that i'm not very familiar with that stuff here, but i'll definitely see what i cna find out for them... it would be pretty neat if they played here!!! (anywhere, really :) jessica 1-Jul-91 17:24:44-GMT,763;000000000001 Received: from phloem.uoregon.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16972; Mon, 1 Jul 91 13:24:17 EDT Received: from greylady.uoregon.edu by phloem.uoregon.edu (4.1/UofO NetSvc-05/01/91) id AA17768; Mon, 1 Jul 91 10:22:57 PDT Received: by greylady.uoregon.edu (5.60/SMI-4.0.1.2(JQJ)) id AA00960; Mon, 1 Jul 91 10:21:19 PDT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 91 10:21:19 PDT From: stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Message-Id: <9107011721.AA00960@greylady.uoregon.edu> To: Klaus Kluge , ecto@athos.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <9107011226.AA03497@elwood.Materna.DE> Subject: much more stuff I have the lyrics that Vickie sent to rec.music.gaffa saved out in files and easily mailable. Does anyone need them who can't FTP them? 1-Jul-91 17:42:23-GMT,430;000000000001 Received: by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18600; Mon, 1 Jul 91 13:42:05 EDT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 91 13:42:05 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu (jessica) Message-Id: <9107011742.AA18600@aramis.rutgers.edu> To: ecto Subject: re: not able to ftp? Also, if anyone isn't able to ftp and would like the GIFs or anything else that might be on athos available for ftp, let me know, i'll mail anything out.. jessica 1-Jul-91 18:38:27-GMT,1311;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA25955; Mon, 1 Jul 91 14:37:59 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00915; Mon, 1 Jul 91 14:37:57 EDT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 91 14:37:57 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9107011837.AA00915@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: breaks in songs I have noticed the continutation between Phobos and Wrong Century too. I haven't listened to volume 2 enough yet to know, but i'm rather certain that doesn't happen anywhere else. Add that to the question list, vickie! Is there a reason for these two songs to flow together, and if so, why? I've also thought that the sound of them fits well together too. i tend to group these two and 10 (words weren't made..) together, the first three (waking up, feed the fire, murder) together, and 8 9 and 11 together (terra incognita, mia ia io, and warpaint) just by sound... someteims depending on my mood, i'll set my player to just repeat one of those groups over and over ;) though lately the best thing for my mood has been Ecto. I wish i had a tape player in the office! I'm nearly tempted to use a mac to be near a tape player. (but not quite tempted enough.... the sparc2 wins too easily over a mac :) jessica 1-Jul-91 19:11:26-GMT,958;000000000001 Received: from einstein.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00998; Mon, 1 Jul 91 15:11:18 EDT Received: by einstein.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA03227; Mon, 1 Jul 91 15:11:15 EDT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 91 15:11:15 EDT From: jessica@einstein.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9107011911.AA03227@einstein.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: spoken words in terra incognita I really want to know what Happy says towards the end of terra incognita. What little i can make out is something like this: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- the creature [ ... ] [i tihnk/to think] then this creature turns into this oriental man who has traveeled through time accidentally and uh, he's after [... he's] walking back, they're telling him that he can do it himself -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Can anyone hear any more? jessica 1-Jul-91 21:48:32-GMT,1469;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA17515; Mon, 1 Jul 91 17:48:21 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA10081; Mon, 1 Jul 91 17:48:19 EDT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 91 17:48:17 EDT From: jessica To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: oops! Message-Id: My machine crashed in the middle of one of my letters. for some of you this will be a repeat, but i'm pretty sure there are some who didn't get it..: Subject: spoken words in terra incognita I really want to know what Happy says towards the end of terra incognita. What little i can make out is something like this: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- the creature [ ... ] [i tihnk/to think] then this creature turns into this oriental man who has traveled through time accidentally and uh, he's after [... he's] walking back, they're telling him that he can do it himself -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Can anyone hear any more? jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 1-Jul-91 22:25:59-GMT,915;000000000001 Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA21393; Mon, 1 Jul 91 18:25:52 EDT Received: from GUESSWHO (mac126.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-ACNS-1.04) id AA08135; Mon, 1 Jul 91 17:25:08 CDT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 91 17:25:07 CDT From: barger@ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9107012225.AA08135@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Answers from Vickie Happy won't say what the "oriental man" quote's about. [Jorn sez: it sounds like a reference to some movie-- Woody Allen's "Alice"? "Big Trouble in Little China"?] She did say that at the end of "Waking Up" she says: We're breaking up/ Cranium keep/ We're waking up/ After the sleep Other tidbits: Happy is part Cherokee... If you want your tapes (etc) orders autographed... just request it! Record Exchange on Dempster here in Evanston will have HappyTapes really soon. 2-Jul-91 16:23:59-GMT,1107;000000000001 Received: from silver.chem.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA06959; Tue, 2 Jul 91 12:21:08 EDT Received: from stella.chem.nwu.edu by silver.chem.nwu.edu (5.52/90.5.1.SDD) (for ecto@cs.RUTGERS.EDU) id AA24003; Tue, 2 Jul 91 11:21:55 CDT Received: by chem.nwu.edu (1.1/901020.SDD) (for @silver.chem.nwu.edu:ecto@cs.rutgers.edu) id AA02273; Tue, 2 Jul 91 11:21:50 CDT Date: Tue, 2 Jul 91 11:21:50 CDT From: stern@chem.nwu.edu (Charlotte Stern) Message-Id: <9107021621.AA02273@chem.nwu.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Answers from Vickie I went to a record collectors fair yesterday, and you'll never believe what I found: A first issue special pressing of Happy's first single, with the original UK jacket! I didn't think there were many of these in circulation, vinyl being scarce these days as it is. The fellow selling said he had never heard of her, and was willing to pay me $10 just to take it off his hands. I wouldn't accept a cent over $4.99. He also through in a Happy Rhodes insignia button and two happy subway posters. I guess he needed the space. 2-Jul-91 19:40:56-GMT,1184;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA29745; Tue, 2 Jul 91 15:40:23 EDT Received: from M66-305-1.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA18311; Tue, 2 Jul 91 15:40:27 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by m66-305-1.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA22696; Tue, 2 Jul 91 15:40:18 -0400 Message-Id: <9107021940.AA22696@m66-305-1.MIT.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Early Happy? Date: Tue, 02 Jul 91 15:40:15 EDT Hi, This last post made me feel completely ignorant. Unless there were some smileys left out intentionally just to confuse me. >A first issue special pressing >of Happy's first single, with the original UK jacket! I thought Happy's stuff was whatever AG had...What song is that? >He also >through in a Happy Rhodes insignia button and two >happy subway posters. I guess he needed the space. What is the Happy insignia like? All tapes have the name typewritten, and Warpaint has nothing to that extent. Subway posters??? Some clarification is necessary... Angelos +=====================================+ |'My ears have parasites'-hApPy RhOdEs| or maybe my brain... +=====================================+ 2-Jul-91 19:58:57-GMT,426;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA02498; Tue, 2 Jul 91 15:58:44 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA19454; Tue, 2 Jul 91 15:58:40 EDT Date: Tue, 2 Jul 91 15:58:40 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9107021958.AA19454@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: i suspect... that mjm is in a straaaange mood ;) jessica 2-Jul-91 20:14:52-GMT,1331;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04914; Tue, 2 Jul 91 16:14:38 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA03533; Tue, 2 Jul 91 16:14:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 91 16:14:34 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9107022014.AA03533@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Early Happy? Angelos says: >This last post made me feel completely ignorant. Unless there were some >smileys left out intentionally just to confuse me. alright, you guys, stop confusing Angelos! you there, mike, what's that in your hand -- hmm, a bunch of smileys... you naughty boy, you! after Richard Caldwell's squidly reply to my recent post on .gaffa, not to mention the embarassing squelching i got on rec.music.misc for responding to what seemed like a perfectly straightforward post about 3 Mustaphas 3, i've given up trying to seperate the accurate posts from the sarcastic ones from the messages from the planet zardon -- i've taken to lumping all of them into the "undisputed truth" category. so, anyone want to buy my extra copy of the Happy Rhodes box set? i know the $400 price tag seems high, but you get 42 Happy Rhodes insignia stickers, and a complete biography in Japanese... footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- now where did i put those smileys? 2-Jul-91 20:38:40-GMT,1079;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA07143; Tue, 2 Jul 91 16:38:30 EDT Received: from M66-305-1.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA20867; Tue, 2 Jul 91 16:38:34 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by m66-305-1.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA22786; Tue, 2 Jul 91 16:38:24 -0400 Message-Id: <9107022038.AA22786@m66-305-1.MIT.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Early Happy? In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 02 Jul 91 16:14:34 -0400. <9107022014.AA03533@bunny.gte.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 91 16:38:21 EDT OK Greg, I'm sorry. That's what happens when I check e-mail after three hours of seminars... Did I mention my Happy T-shirt collection? ;-) On a more serious note. I would love to hear a remixed extended dance version of WRONG CENTURY!!! I haven't listened to the rest of Warpaint a lot, but while listening to that song last night, I sort of liked the bass line and thought that if a song can make Happy popular, this is it! Who are the guys doing backing vox on Warpaint anyway? Angelos 2-Jul-91 20:49:40-GMT,798;000000000001 Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08495; Tue, 2 Jul 91 16:49:25 EDT Received: from GUESSWHO (mac127.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-ACNS-1.04) id AA19987; Tue, 2 Jul 91 15:48:34 CDT Date: Tue, 2 Jul 91 15:48:34 CDT From: barger@ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9107022048.AA19987@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy available via Rose in Chicagoland Vickie reports: Rose Record stores with both CD and cassette: 3155 N. Broadway, Chicago 1741 Sherman, Evanston Hawthorn Hills Square, Vernon Hills Downers Grove Naperville 640 State, Madison Countryside North & Clybourn, Chicago Rose stores with CD only: Orland Park Wheaton Rose stores with cassette only: Davis, Evanston Bloomingdale 2-Jul-91 22:10:34-GMT,2062;000000000001 Received: from accuvax.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA17600; Tue, 2 Jul 91 18:10:16 EDT Received: from silver.chem.nwu.edu by accuvax.nwu.edu (5.65+/1.34) id AA21830; Tue, 2 Jul 91 17:10:11 -0500 Received: from stella.chem.nwu.edu by silver.chem.nwu.edu (5.52/90.5.1.SDD) (for ecto@athos.RUTGERS.EDU) id AA25549; Tue, 2 Jul 91 15:35:57 CDT Received: by chem.nwu.edu (1.1/901020.SDD) (for @silver.chem.nwu.edu:ecto@athos.rutgers.edu) id AA07691; Tue, 2 Jul 91 15:35:53 CDT Date: Tue, 2 Jul 91 15:35:53 CDT From: stern@chem.nwu.edu (Charlotte Stern) Message-Id: <9107022035.AA07691@chem.nwu.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Early Happy? Cc: stern@chem.nwu.edu oh. um.... sorry angelos. I'm just too goosed up about this HR mailing list. It's like an inside-the-insiders group, since everyone is from gaffa. What a great place to make fun of love hounds' unabetted slothering. Man, we should've done this months ago! the unabashed mr. footah! writes: > responding to what seemed like a perfectly straightforward post about > 3 Mustaphas 3, i've given up trying to seperate the accurate posts from > the sarcastic ones from the messages from the planet zardon -- i've > taken to lumping all of them into the "undisputed truth" category. Hey, I like Sabah Habas, the palindromic mustapha! Just saw them in Chicago on Sunday! Sound the feedback of the horny shepherd! > so, anyone want to buy my extra copy of the Happy Rhodes box set? > i know the $400 price tag seems high, but you get 42 Happy Rhodes > insignia stickers, and a complete biography in Japanese... I picked one up for just $200 in Canada... but it was missing every other word of the lyrics, and there were no autographed neck ties. also, i noticed a lot more signal than noise on the backward vocals in the revelation. > -- now where did i put those smileys? Over here, over here, over HEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE :-) :_) :+) :=) :/) :\) :[) :]) :*) -mjm s h e r e a l l y i s . . . (oops, wrong digest) 2-Jul-91 22:14:53-GMT,981;000000000001 Received: from lewhoosh.umd.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18057; Tue, 2 Jul 91 18:14:27 EDT Received: by lewhoosh.umd.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA04517; Tue, 2 Jul 91 18:14:24 EDT Message-Id: <9107022214.AA04517@lewhoosh.umd.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Samples... Date: Tue, 02 Jul 91 18:14:23 -0400 From: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu Is there any interest in having me upload a sample of the backward-masked lyrics of "Warpaint" to the archives? I've sampled it in the past, but no longer have the file on my HD; I'd be happy to do it again if there's interest. It's pretty unoriginal (just Happy singing "I fight to the death") though I love the way it sounds on the CD... Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Show what you are / Be strong, be true | | | Time for you to / Be who you are." | |jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu | --Happy Rhodes | 3-Jul-91 3:05:00-GMT,10901;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20244; Tue, 2 Jul 91 23:04:39 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA13486; Tue, 2 Jul 91 22:15:56 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 2 Jul 91 17:48:52 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA03267; Tue, 2 Jul 91 17:48:50 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.4) id ; Tue, 2 Jul 91 13:22 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 Jul 91 13:22 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: There're in tune Vickie here. At this point I'm actually glad that a Happy flap resulted in the formation of this mailing list. Otherwise this article might have been posted in gaffa and it would certainly have caused an uproar from some who cull through just looking for things to nitpik on. Since those people do not subscribe to Ecto we're safe! :-) Anyway, this is what Kevin said in the letter he sent with... "...it contains all the usual inaccuracies, (like my spelling) I never said that the usenet was European, I did mention Chicago several times and my personal chronology is almost completely backwards. The press.........................................." I'll talk about the inaccuracies and other things more after the article. We're so taken with Happy, yet Kevin's music has hardly been mentioned. I feel guilty that I've not talked about it more, but Happy is my first love and concern. He actually is much more well-known for his music in Albany than Happy is. Also, some of his music has gotten quite a bit of national exposure, as you'll read. You may even have heard him and not known it. This appeared in the Albany _Sunday Times Union_ May 26, 1991. Reprinted w/o permission. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- THEY'RE IN TUNE Music business is personal for Bartlett and Rhodes by Michael Eck "We fell in love with each other's music before we even met each other." Kevin Bartlett and Happy Rhodes are perhaps Albany's most musically productive couple - over the course of six years their personal relationship has kept them as happy as their business partnership has kept them busy. Aural Gratification, their combined label and advertising studio, has just released Rhodes' latest effort, _Warpaint_, on CD to already stunning results. Rhodes' ethereal music, dressed up by her majestic voice, has gained a cult audience, but _Warpaint_ is already drawing international response, heavy radio play, and major label interest. _Warpaint_ is the label's 17th release including a body of electronic work from Bartlett, Rhodes' solo efforts, and _The Record_ by Michael Shelley. The label's roots are about as strange as they get. Bartlett provided music for a Lorelei Hamm jewelry exhibit in the early '80s - taking one of her fancy pins in return for his effort. But his music, and sounds for subsequent shows, drew so much attention, and requests for copies, that he started his own cassette label (which graduated into the digital age with _Warpaint). The 38-year old Bartlett's musical career began in high school; the usual garage band myth. He soon graduated into doing his own light shows - for the Aerodrome in Schenectady, the Palace in Albany, and even the Fillmore in New York. In the '70s Bartlett helped pioneer Od, a full-blown art rock extrava- ganza, replete with rock operas. Their "Spheres," which was performed as the scaled-down "Sideshow" at Page Hall in 1978, was considered by major labels but stalled by management snafus. The band later scaled down as well to become a regularly performing unit without such grand presentation. Bartlett bailed out to Rochester but returned to work with guitarist/ songwriter Mitch Elrod in Body Feature. He currently performs on keyboards in Mitch Elrod's Swim Team. In the early '80s, as he was starting up Aural Gratification for his own projects, he graduated into advertising as well. "I had been hearing a lot of national spots with synthesizer all over them and not hearing them on any local spots. Since I had some and knew what I was doing with them I thought I could approach local agencies," Bartlett says. That cottage industry has now grown into a production studio that has done work for MTV, VH-1, Sesame Street, Playboy Channel, The Nikolai Dance Theatre of New York, Circle Rep and a variety of local outlets. Bartlett contributed to seven Nori Award-winning spots last year (Regional Ad Awards). He hooked up with Rhodes in 1985 at Cathedral Studios in Rensselaer - one of his regular haunts. Rhodes picked up her first guitar at age 11 and was writing her own songs soon after. She performed at open mikes at Caffe Lena a few times before stumbling into Cathedral to learn the music business from the ground up. Studio owner Pat Tessitore encouraged her to record some of her own music, and just as soon discouraged her from becoming a studio hand - what he heard was too good to go ignored. Bartlett suffered a similar fate and fell in love with her stuff from the first note he heard. He invited her to guest on some of his live dates at 288 Lark and was even more knocked out. She guested on some of his recordings and soon he wanted more. "He suggested that since he already had this small label that was re- leasing what he was recording that I should make a compilation of what I'd been doing." Rhodes says. Her early Kate Bush-like works attracted immediate attention. Bartlett notes that a European computer network Bush fan club now discusses Rhodes as much as the English thrush. _Warpaint_ doffs much of that image and clearly establishes Rhodes as a major talent with an individual voice. The music on it is Rhodes' answer to what happens when heart and sound collide. Currently Rhodes is not performing live to support the release simply because, like Bartlett's past efforts, production costs involved with bringing her work to the stage are prohibitive. Major label support could change that. She says they are open to that possibility, but also points out that Aural Gratification is beginning to do well on its own. _Warpaint_ is certainly doing well. California's KCRW, the nation's No. 1 National Public Radio station, has it in heavy rotation. Other stations in Wisconsin, Kansas, and Colorado have hosted specials profiling the 25-year old artist's work. Locally _Warpaint_ and the combined Bartlett/Rhodes back catalog is available directly from Aural Gratification, Box 8658, Academy Station, Albany, N.Y. 12208, and most local record stores. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pretty darn good! > Rhodes' ethereal music, dressed up by her majestic voice, has gained > a cult audience, but _Warpaint_ is already drawing international > response, heavy radio play, and major label interest. The "international response" is YOU Love-Hounders! "Major label interest" seems to have cooled considerably :-( since this was written. > Bartlett bailed out to Rochester but returned to work with guitarist/ > songwriter Mitch Elrod in Body Feature. He currently performs on > keyboards in Mitch Elrod's Swim Team. Kevin went to Rochester *before* he helped form Od. > Rhodes picked up her first guitar at age 11 and was writing her own > songs soon after. She performed at open mikes at Caffe Lena a few times > before stumbling into Cathedral to learn the music business from the > ground up. She didn't exactly "stumble into" Cathedral. Her mother helped set up a job there (non-paying/apprentice), knowing that it would be a perfect place for Happy to learn the engineering and recording process. Once she had established herself at the studio, Pat Tessitore (owner of Cathedral) would call Happy when he knew that free time was available in the studio. She would go in and record one (or two or three or four...) songs at a time. Whatever she had time for. I've been urging Happy to write out this whole story. > Bartlett suffered a similar fate and fell in love with her stuff from > the first note he heard. Pat Tessitore (owner of Cathedral) played Happy's music to everyone within earshot. Kevin was very moved and wanted to meet Happy. One night, Pat had called Happy to come in and record. Kevin was the last customer. He said he saw Happy sitting on the floor waiting to go in to the studio and he walked up to her and gave her one of his tapes. Happy was familiar with Kevin and his reputation. Kevin says he thought she wasn't too interested and seemed cool to him. Happy remembers it very differently. "Every time you're standing by my side, I'm striken with undying fear inside" She was terrified! Obviously they did get together... > He invited her to guest on some of his live dates at 288 Lark and was > even more knocked out. She guested on some of his recordings and soon he > wanted more. Know the feeling???!!! > "He suggested that since he already had this small label that was re- > leasing what he was recording that I should make a compilation of what > I'd been doing." Rhodes says. The importance of this CANNOT be underestimated. ***THANK YOU KEVIN!!!*** > Her early Kate Bush-like works attracted immediate attention. Bartlett > notes that a European computer network Bush fan club now discusses Rhodes > as much as the English thrush. If this were gaffa I could imagine the flamethrowers being revved up! First, as Kevin said, he never told the interviewer the net was "European" only. Second, they had just received the very first batch of printouts from Mike (aka Michael Mendelson aka mjm aka "Charlotte Stern") and they didn't know that he had cut out all the Kate stuff. Seeing page after page of Happy posts, it's no wonder that they must have thought that only Happy was being discussed. They know better now, of course. > ...bringing her work to the stage are prohibitive. Major label support > could change that. She says they are open to that possibility, but also > points out that Aural Gratification is beginning to do well on its own. A big thanks to you all for this!! > _Warpaint_ is certainly doing well. California's KCRW, the nation's > No. 1 National Public Radio station, has it in heavy rotation. Other > stations in Wisconsin, Kansas, and Colorado have hosted specials profiling ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ > the 25-year old artist's work. I don't know *how* the writer got so weirded out on his states. The reference is to me, in Missouri and Illinois! Pooh! My one chance at fame, blown by poor geography! :-) Vickie (one of Vickie'n'Chris) katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 3-Jul-91 7:15:06-GMT,1502;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16038; Wed, 3 Jul 91 03:14:18 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA26551; Wed, 3 Jul 91 02:16:35 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Wed, 3 Jul 91 00:27:32 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA10330; Wed, 3 Jul 91 00:27:29 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.4) id ; Tue, 2 Jul 91 22:17 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 Jul 91 22:17 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu o>Jon Drukman could never figure out why Kiri (<--- new nickname?) writes: > > ----added oddity----- > in my last post I prayed to the godish qualities in Kate to turn > on the natural a/c in the midwest....a mere 24 hours later the > temp has dropped a good 20 degrees....wow! Thanks Kate...hehehehe > >Hey, she didn't call it the Meteorological Mix for nothing, y'know. Don't we know it! "That cloud looks like industrial waste" "That [Jon Drukman] should be removed immediately" Merow! The nick is hardly new except to the net...it doesn't come from anything special...some of my friends picked it up, and it stuck...it's much easier to pronounce than my real name which everyone messes up!! Kirstin/Kiri/orwhateveryouwannacallmeespeciallycattysnob:) hargie@chinet.chi.il.us 3-Jul-91 14:10:41-GMT,1046;000000000001 Received: from accuvax.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20910; Wed, 3 Jul 91 10:10:01 EDT Received: from silver.chem.nwu.edu by accuvax.nwu.edu (5.65+/1.34) id AA22717; Wed, 3 Jul 91 09:09:55 -0500 Received: from stella.chem.nwu.edu by silver.chem.nwu.edu (5.52/90.5.1.SDD) (for ecto@athos.rutgers.edu) id AA27356; Wed, 3 Jul 91 08:32:32 CDT Received: by chem.nwu.edu (1.1/901020.SDD) (for @silver.chem.nwu.edu:ecto@athos.rutgers.edu) id AA05924; Wed, 3 Jul 91 08:32:30 CDT Date: Wed, 3 Jul 91 08:32:30 CDT From: stern@chem.nwu.edu (Charlotte Stern) Message-Id: <9107031332.AA05924@chem.nwu.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: confusion Hmmmmm.... had no idea I had caused so much confusion with those first printouts. However, in the article it says about equal time shared by the thrush (don't they mean BUSH?) and sedohr, which for a couple of months was about accurate. As for nicknames, I accept them all, but Charlotte Stern really is a separate person.... honest. (C&V&Ed have even met her) -mjm 3-Jul-91 14:10:42-GMT,1220;000000000011 Received: from accuvax.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20932; Wed, 3 Jul 91 10:10:11 EDT Received: from silver.chem.nwu.edu by accuvax.nwu.edu (5.65+/1.34) id AA22723; Wed, 3 Jul 91 09:09:59 -0500 Received: from stella.chem.nwu.edu by silver.chem.nwu.edu (5.52/90.5.1.SDD) (for ecto@athos.rutgers.edu) id AA27338; Wed, 3 Jul 91 08:08:45 CDT Received: by chem.nwu.edu (1.1/901020.SDD) (for @silver.chem.nwu.edu:ecto@athos.rutgers.edu) id AA05732; Wed, 3 Jul 91 08:08:43 CDT Date: Wed, 3 Jul 91 08:08:43 CDT From: stern@chem.nwu.edu (Charlotte Stern) Message-Id: <9107031308.AA05732@chem.nwu.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: wrong century > From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu > > On a more serious note. I would love to hear a remixed extended dance version > of WRONG CENTURY!!! I haven't listened to the rest of Warpaint a lot, but while > listening to that song last night, I sort of liked the bass line and thought > that if a song can make Happy popular, this is it! Who are the guys doing > backing vox on Warpaint anyway? 100%. This was my reaction way back when I first heard the album. No question about it, the video is obvious and would be a giant hit on vh1. -mjm 3-Jul-91 19:42:13-GMT,1084;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00798; Wed, 3 Jul 91 15:41:54 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01727; Wed, 3 Jul 91 15:41:47 EDT Date: Wed, 3 Jul 91 15:41:45 EDT From: jessica To: stern@chem.nwu.edu (Charlotte Stern) Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: wrong century In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 3 Jul 91 08:08:43 CDT Message-Id: I beleive the backing vocals on Wrong Century are Kevin.. on the back it said "additional heavy breathing" (and i think specifically it mentions wrong century, though the cd is out in the car so i can't check) but it credits that to Kevin. :) jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 4-Jul-91 5:36:17-GMT,603;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01522; Thu, 4 Jul 91 01:36:04 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA12225; Thu, 4 Jul 91 01:36:02 EDT Date: Thu, 4 Jul 91 01:36:02 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9107040536.AA12225@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: my grandmother says: I got a letter from my grandmother today, she says: "We're enjoying Happy Rhodes tape very much - She expresses all the good feelings that are happening now. Glad you're experiencing them too." :):) jessica 4-Jul-91 20:52:23-GMT,556;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16011; Thu, 4 Jul 91 16:52:06 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18946; Thu, 4 Jul 91 16:52:05 EDT Date: Thu, 4 Jul 91 16:52:05 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9107042052.AA18946@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: sounds samples? Jorn, mail them to me.. not only do i want to hear them, but i'll make them available by ftp along with the rest of the things there... (if it's ok with you ;) jessica 5-Jul-91 15:27:38-GMT,765;000000000001 Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA15762; Fri, 5 Jul 91 11:27:24 EDT Received: from GUESSWHO (mac129.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-ACNS-1.04) id AA02078; Fri, 5 Jul 91 11:03:36 CDT Date: Fri, 5 Jul 91 11:03:36 CDT From: barger@ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9107051603.AA02078@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy hits the trades! (via Vickie) The CMJ [College Music Journal] Music Report (Vol 27 #3 Issue #242 June 28, 1991-- guaranteed collectible!) has listed Happy on KERA's playlist! One of 35 artists KERA lists, KERA one of hundreds of listed stations. (12 pages * about 20 stations per page.) One small step for the Holy Ghost, one giant leap... 9-Jul-91 14:50:43-GMT,582;000000000001 Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18350; Tue, 9 Jul 91 10:50:07 EDT Received: from GUESSWHO (mac129.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-ACNS-1.04) id AA24808; Tue, 9 Jul 91 09:51:37 CDT Date: Tue, 9 Jul 91 09:51:36 CDT From: barger@ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9107091451.AA24808@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Got 'em! My cassettes arrived at last from AG. There's an autographed postcard and a letter apologizing for not shrink-wrapping three of the tapes. Scary monsters! 9-Jul-91 18:51:34-GMT,1632;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA14226; Tue, 9 Jul 91 14:51:17 EDT Received: from RCA2.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA15060; Tue, 9 Jul 91 14:51:25 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by rca2.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA01733; Tue, 9 Jul 91 14:51:11 -0400 Message-Id: <9107091851.AA01733@rca2.MIT.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy's singing Date: Tue, 09 Jul 91 14:51:09 EDT Hi, Having over-saturated myself with Happy's music during the last 10 days or so, I noticed something that kind of justifies some of the complaints that people in .gaffa had. Let me make this point clear: I still think Happy is a great artist, and deserves a lot of attention. BUT, what I think Happy's songs are missing is some emotion. 'Warpaint' is an excellent collection of songs. Even though the instrumentation is very simple, it is sufficient. But Happy's voice is relatively emotionless. She sings 'Lay me down' which is a song of ultimate despair, the same way she sings 'Feed the fire' or 'Waking Up'. I realize that the reason 'Wrong Century' stood out is because it is the only song where there is some playfulness in the way she sings. Can you imagine KaTe or Sinead singing 'Lay me down'? 'Under the Ivy' conveys an urgency. 'Troy' is full of rage. I also found 'Rearmament' and 'Vol. II' to be not quite as exciting as 'Ecto' and 'Vol. I', but maybe I haven't listened to them enough yet. Does anybody else see my point? Angelos +=====================================+ |'My ears have parasites'-hApPy RhOdEs| +=====================================+ 9-Jul-91 20:22:14-GMT,723;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA24377; Tue, 9 Jul 91 16:21:19 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00235; Tue, 9 Jul 91 16:21:17 EDT Date: Tue, 9 Jul 91 16:21:17 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9107092021.AA00235@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: vol. 1, ecto vs vol. 2, rearmament I have to admit i like Volume 1 and Ecto best too. Though i too have listened to volume 2 and Rearmament quite a bit less. (but that's because less of them catch my ears so much...) I like Warpaint as much, but i tihnk of it differently, i think it's whole outlook feels different... I'll say more later! jessica 9-Jul-91 21:10:39-GMT,1209;000000000001 Received: from remus.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA29595; Tue, 9 Jul 91 17:09:33 EDT Received: by remus.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13578; Tue, 9 Jul 91 17:09:31 EDT Date: Tue, 9 Jul 91 17:09:31 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (woj) Message-Id: <9107092109.AA13578@remus.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: agreed... the two tapes that i have at this point are vol.1 and _warpaint_. at first, i liked _warpaint_ more, since it seemed more developed and more refined, but as i listened to both more, i've come to like vol.1 more. i'm not sure why either. i guess _warpaint_ is a bit...flat. it also seems that the refinement that went into it has taken a bit of an edge off of it, while vol.1 is still re- freshing (even though it didn't grab me at first). i think vol.1 is more, um, "honest" as well...i don't mean to say that happy has "sold out" with _warpaint_, but rather that vol.1 is closer to reality (or something like that...i'm not wording this very well). it's more heartfelt in someways. there's also the element of a bright-eyed enthusiam ("wow! my first album!") that perks it up also. another incessant babble from... woj 9-Jul-91 21:35:06-GMT,1224;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01489; Tue, 9 Jul 91 17:34:22 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA14195; Tue, 9 Jul 91 17:34:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 91 17:34:14 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9107092134.AA14195@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: agreed... i've gone through various stages vis-a-vis fave Happy albums, but _Ecto_ has been the consistant winner. (woj, you *gotta* get _Ecto -- ha, i can say that on this list! B-} ) i agree that _Warpaint_ seems a bit flat after a few listenings -- a bit overworked, maybe. but i find myself humming _Phobos_, _WC_, etc. all the time: i think there's something there that's missing my ears and going straight to my brain... for those of you keeping score at home, my current rating is Ecto H.R. 2 Warpaint (but note above note...) Rearmament H.R. 1 but none of these would i do without... footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot 9-Jul-91 21:39:40-GMT,1019;000000000011 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA02123; Tue, 9 Jul 91 17:39:12 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA14360; Tue, 9 Jul 91 17:39:03 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 91 17:39:03 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9107092139.AA14360@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: incessant babble speaking of woj: my posts to ecto are bouncing back from woj's address to me -- anyone else having problems like this??? also: note that the boston area KaTemas party will feature the Ecto room (sh! don't tell anyone not on this list...;-} ) i don't exactly have a lot of Happy stuff, but i'll play the tapes/CD for hapless Happyless people, and show off my stunning collection of Happy and Kevin autographs... footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot 9-Jul-91 22:16:21-GMT,904;000000000001 Received: from silver.chem.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA06923; Tue, 9 Jul 91 18:15:48 EDT Received: from stella.chem.nwu.edu by silver.chem.nwu.edu (5.52/90.5.1.SDD) (for ecto@cs.rutgers.edu) id AA12319; Tue, 9 Jul 91 17:15:44 CDT Received: by chem.nwu.edu (1.1/901020.SDD) (for @silver.chem.nwu.edu:jessica@cs.rutgers.edu) id AA01273; Tue, 9 Jul 91 17:15:44 CDT Date: Tue, 9 Jul 91 17:15:44 CDT From: stern@chem.nwu.edu (Charlotte Stern) Message-Id: <9107092215.AA01273@chem.nwu.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu, jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: vol. 1, ecto vs vol. 2, rearmament I disagree. I think Vol1 and Vol2 are quite a ways better than Ecto and Rearmament. I like warpaint, but it is in a different class, as Jess says. I find Vol1 and 2 to be more earthy, more emotionally charged, more accessible, more honest, less synthy, more ragged, jarring. -mjm 10-Jul-91 0:00:51-GMT,1673;000000000001 Received: from rutvm1.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18422; Tue, 9 Jul 91 20:00:47 EDT Message-Id: <9107100000.AA18422@aramis.rutgers.edu> Received: from RUTVM1.RUTGERS.EDU by RutVM1.Rutgers.Edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1MX) with BSMTP id 9447; Tue, 09 Jul 91 20:02:36 EDT Received: from NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU by RUTVM1.RUTGERS.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 0649; Tue, 09 Jul 91 20:02:35 EDT Received: from NUACVM (JLUECK) by NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 6461; Tue, 09 Jul 91 19:00:43 CDT Date: Tue, 09 Jul 91 18:54:28 CDT From: Jeff Lueck Organization: NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY Subject: Happy Prices To: Jessica X-Acknowledge-To: OK OK.... All this talk about Happy's earlier albums (I have _Warpaint_) makes me want to buy 'em all. I know the prices were posted on GAFFA a number of times (to the aggravation of some we all know), but I never saved those messages. I have the address, but could you provide me with the prices? If I am not mistaken, the following are the others besides _Warpaint_. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Vol I Vol II (I assume they are separate albums) Rearment Ecto I should have asked Vicki when I talked to her yesterday, but I forgot. I'm sending this to you instead of the mailing list because you are like the 'moderator'. Hope you don't mind. Thanks for your help. | JEFF "CHIP" LUECK | OFFICE PHONE: (708) 491-3786 | |HUMAN RESOURCES, NORTHWESTERN UNIV.| EMAIL: JLUECK@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU| |720 UNIV. PL, EVANSTON, IL 60208 | :-) (-:| 10-Jul-91 3:12:24-GMT,1830;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09693; Tue, 9 Jul 91 23:12:08 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA22821; Tue, 9 Jul 91 23:12:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 91 23:12:02 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9107100312.AA22821@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: vol. 1, ecto vs vol. 2, rearmament he of many names (one of which isn't his...) says: > I disagree. I think Vol1 and Vol2 are quite a ways better > than Ecto and Rearmament. I like warpaint, but it is > in a different class, as Jess says. I find Vol1 and 2 > to be more earthy, more emotionally charged, more accessible, > more honest, less synthy, more ragged, jarring. ah, but i *like* the synthy, sneaky sound of the later tapes. i agree it's more distant, and i do enjoy the earthy, disturbingly honest and open feel of H.R. 1 & 2, but _Ecto_ and _Rearmament_ are, to me, startlingly original -- those Tangerine Dream drums, the cheesy arpegiated synths, the baroque vocal harmonies; the combination is different, almost annoying, and therefore fascinating. a lot of the disparity between our views (note that we are 180 out of phase vis-a-vis the jarring effects of the tapes) is due to the sparseness of the music. i tend to fill in the gaps in the later tapes with warped D-Mode/industrial noises (mentally, that is), where as others are bound to hear an attempt at slicker, poppier production. the sound of _Warpaint_ does support the latter view-er-listenpoint, but as long as my ears are happy, i'm not going to worry about it... footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot