Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #988 ecto, Number 988 Sunday, 30 January 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: Where to find Happy in the East Bay? (Well... recorded, that is.) Jane Siberry: Radio 3's interview broadcast yesterday: transcript Re: Whatever became of ....? Fwd: Free E-Mag on Advances in Computing old hat the difference between men & women RE: Rhodes II Surrendering to the spirit of the night again? big hat my vi jody grind & the clinch Re: big hat Re: jody grind & the clinch ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 11:19:28 -0800 (PST) From: David Dixon Subject: Re: Where to find Happy in the East Bay? (Well... recorded, that is.) On Tue, 25 Jan 1994, Emily Breed wrote: > > On Tue, 25 Jan 1994, Ethan Straffin wrote: > > Berkeley: > > Amoeba (Telegraph, near UC Berkeley) > > Rasputin's (ditto) > > Mod Lang (University) > > San Francisco > > Reckless (Haight/Ashbury -- my favorite in the City) > > Rough Trade (Haight near Ashbury -- great selection, bad prices) > > Plus the Tower Records in Emeryville has several Happy disks (don't > remember which ones, though...) > Rasputin's is the best place to go. That's where I got all of my Happydisks (except Equipoise.. I got that through the mail). D^2 ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 19:32:11 GMT From: imy@wcl-rs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Young) Subject: Jane Siberry: Radio 3's interview broadcast yesterday: transcript The subvocalizations, false starts and so on are rather unevenly transcribed. It really is very tiring trying to do this with a personal stereo without a pause: I kept losing a second or so everytime I stopped the tape and to keep going back (too far, argh!, etc). I don't think there are any substantive errors, but probably a few typos, and spelling mistakes. I'd go over it again, but I've got to get to the supermarket and it closes in half and hour. Did I say it was short? Certainly didn't feel short transcribing it :v) gotta go, Ian. R: Robert Sandall M: Mark Russell J: Jane Siberry R: Now, responsive as ever to the signals of interest and approval you, the listeners send back, we felt the time was right to feature Jane Siberry on the programme. She has released four albums over the last ten years, the most recent of which, When I was a Boy, created a small bulge in the Mixing It postbag last year, and led us to invite her into the studio when she payed a flying visit to Britain in the autumn. For the uninitiated: Jane Siberry is a Toronto-based singer whose interest in the spoken word and in multimedia experiments along with her idiosyncratic sense of humour have lead to the inevitable comparisons with Laurie Anderson. Which is o.k. up to a point, the point being that Siberry is more musicianly, less intellectually cool and politically correct and much keener on the sheer joy of singing than Anderson, as you'll appreciate from this caper through a variety of styles, The Very Large Hat, a track from her 1985 album, The Speckless Sky. [plays first 2 mins of A Very Large Hat] R: Had you always wanted to be a singer? [inflexion implies not first question asked] J: No uh. The singing thing came as an aside, really. To sing what I wrote. And then slowly I have identified more with being a singer. R: Did you start writing prose? poems? J: Yeah. I wrote a lot of prose when I was young. And I improvised music always. And so, when I put the prose and the music together, I was seventeen. And I still do a lot of writing that never comes to light as a song; musically, and also prose-wise. R: When you decided to bring the words and the music together, what sort of musical elements were you interested in? J: Uh, It's cur... Ah, I don't really know how to describe it. But, but you know, if you had a choice of four notes and could put them together in a string, certain ways of arranging them would make you feel sick... and tired. And certain ways of arranging them would make you feel, uh, like you were^H^H^H^Hhad roots in the Earth, or something, a hh-humming. And that was my little compass. R: Two names that crop up a lot when people are, are trying to describe your music are Joani Mitchell and Laurie Anderson. Are these performers who you recognise as [something, underlaps Jane's response]? J: Yeah, Joani is definitely a huge influence. Because she was one of the first voices that um, that... first people who I responded emotionally to; lyrically. And Laurie Anderson, um, I respect her, but I've never really fallen under her spell, so to speak. But I know the two names come up a lot. R: You were saying earlier, Jane, the Miss Punta Bianca was written about something which actually happened. [J: cough] Do you usually find yourself writing about things that actually happened to you, or people that you know? J: Yeah, although I do change the names to protect the... innocent [R: laughs quietly]... or the guilty (sometimes). But often they're, they're you know, metaphores (really). But the chances of going to the Punta Blanca Hotel in Cuba are very great for Canadians, because you pay $500, go through the Fiesta travel agency and you have a choice of two hotels... you, you know, it's a real f... So uh, so that's where we went and in fact, we did consider going to the Punta Blanca contest. He, he to see if he could win Mr Punta Blanca. It was a sad, sad pathetic picture I painted wasn't it? R: [amused] I thought it very funny actually. Does humour---is humour something... J: That's what I mean. R: Do you like to be funny? J: Yeah, I do. I actually realise there's a real imbalance with how I'm perceived because often people think I'm very serious, and uh, pretentious, aloof, removed, artsy. And yet the things that move me to write about are the everyday person and the everyday things and it hurts my feelings very much to be pushed aside as something for people in the know(?) Because I feel like I'm moved by the everyday and write for the ever... I just write about things that aren't _written_ about everyday, that's all. [plays Miss Punta Blanca] R: How would you, from the vantage-point of now, describe your progress as a recording artist? I mean, I think you've made five(?) studio albums and there's been the compilation best-of. [J: Right] How do you see that progression yourself? J: Circular [both laugh], meandering, convoluted. Um, well, the compilation doesn't really count; that was an aside [R: right]. But fairly focused, I'd say. I feel like this record, although its path was _very_ convoluted as I say and never what I expected... [R: We're talking about When I Was A Boy, now?] When I Was A Boy. [R: yeah] I almost put a---I had another record written and I rejected it because it was---It didn't feel like big enough step. It felt like it was a sequel to the last record. So I'm saying that it's important to me that the next thing I do is, is a gathering _from_ and a _leap_ forward. R: How do you actually write your songs, Jane? I know in some of the things I've read that you refer to your music in terms of fragments. How do you assemble your pieces? A: Uh, yeah. I think of a lot of my songs as caught. Is that what you mean? Like a fragment. That it's just caught in time, as opposed to a beginning... and that's the way it should be, I like that. But An Angel Stepped Down is sort of different because uh... When I write I just put on a tape-recorder and then I blow; improvise, and words come out. And, uh, like The Vigil was written in one pass with almost all the words and the chords were all the same. But An Angel Stepped Down actually from a tape that I was make of all the special bits from like hours and hours of... blowing. And then I put them on this tape end-to-end, all these little favourite bits, and then I listen it over and over again and weed out the ones that stop moving me after a while. But this little string of special things took on this song-like quality and so I... What An Angel Stepped Down is, is a all the special bits put across a groove. [Plays first 2 mins of An Angel Stepped Down] R: This new album, I notice, has got a lot of religious allusions... in the titles at any rate. Can you elucidate that? Why there are so many titles refering to Angels, um... The Gospel According to Darkness, Calling All Angels? J: Well I think they were just in the air for this record. You know, I find with every record there's certain common symbols are attractive at that time. Certain symbols and certain colours. And this record had to be---and we worked very---and actually the lipstick is wrong; the colour that's the only thing I regret about this... R: Your lipstick on the cover? J: Yeah, they repai--it was touched up, and it was supposed to be, uh, Mack[[?]] No. 14 [both laugh]. Because---all these things are important to me---it's too Bergundy. The colour of this record is more on the orange side. It's too deep there. But anyway, this record had a certain tone to it, colour-wise, sound-wise, which dictated which synth sounds I used, and samples and everything. R: Does this mean, then, that you see---that you sort of _see_ your songs, almost as pictures? J: Yeah, in some cases, yeah I see them before I hear them. And An Angel Stepped Down, I did a video for that because I could see it. But if I can't see it, I can't do it. R: So you image all your songs before you actually... record them? J: Yeah... yeah [R: Hmmm] that's uh, before I write... them. R: You've worked with a number of people on this new album. Um. Brian Eno produced a couple of tracks. Have you worked with him before? J: No, Never. R: How did yo come into contact with him, or he with you? J: Well, um, Baby-lips Eno [both laugh] is... R: That's your name for him, is it? J: Yeah, that was one of the first things I noticed... is that for someone who is highly intelligent his jaw was very relaxed and his lips were very soft; like a child's. Which I think is a sign of balance. Anyway, he really loved Bound By The Beauty, my last record, and wrote Warner Brothers in the States. Imagine writing a letter! Like... busy as he is, he actually sits down---that to me is a sign of someone who's really centred. So he wrote Warner Brothers in the U.S. and said that he loved the record and why hadn't it done better and... so when then the idea of someone working with me came up they put him forth as one possibility. And I think he took very perverted pleasure in being considered the person to bring me to accessibility. R: He sings, doesn't he, on Temple? I think it's... J: [shocked/amused] No he doesn't! [R: Doesn't he? oh...] No, but he called David Ramsden, who sings on it `one of the great voices of our time' [R: oh]. Which I think, in fact, is true. [plays middle of Temple] R: How was singing the duet with kd lang? J: Well, she arrived in the studio with her little dog, Stinker, with a kerchief on her head and Stinker who barked at everyone... I mean she looks like she can handle herself but it was so funny to see this little dog, totally in love with kd, in front of her, barking. So kd and Stinker arrived, and we were in booths at first, and then we um, we couldn't really connect. So we came out on the floor and so we could see each other, and then we started singing, and then that singerly thing happens when you can make eye-contact, and actually feel the other person's presence, and then it was uh, for me anyway, very special. [plays middle of Calling All Angels] R: I notice there have been quite a few---well over here we notice--- that there have been quite a lot of very characterful female vocalists to emerge from Canada in the last few years: kd lang is an obvious one, Mary Margaret O'Hara, [J: M...] Margo [J: Timmins] yeah, [J: Holly Cole]. Do you thi---Is there anything in this? Is there --is---Do you feel some kind of---that, that this is your time? J: Uuuuh, oh I dunno. I think it's the time for I think its a battle between darkness and light between depression and... love for life and I think these are really difficult times period for everybody and so I think the kind of music that will---and music had been a way to heal, always, since the beginning of time---The music that will come to the fore on certain levels is music that's believeable; that people can trust. And I think that's---different as we all are---that's a common denominator. [plays first couple of mins of Life is The Red Wagon (the remix from the Summer In The Yukon compilation)] M: Jane Siberry talking there; that track was The Life Is The Red Wagon, that was from her third album, Bound By Beauty, on the Warner Brothers label. ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 14:45:01 -0500 From: pearceja%pomis.dnet@wl.wpafb.af.mil Subject: Re: Whatever became of ....? I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M Date: 25-Jan-1994 02:34pm EST From: Lt Jeffrey A. Pearce PEARCEJA Dept: POSF Tel No: 54171 TO: _MAILER! ( _DDN[ECTO@NS1.RUTGERS.EDU] ) Subject: Re: Whatever became of ....? Chris asked about the Jody Grind. >think its called). the other group is from North Carolina and was pretty >local, and were called the jody grind. they were bluesy rock and the >vocalist was outstanding. i have tapes of tapes of two of their albums >(hope you followed that), and was wondering if anyone has ever heard of >them. i've about worn out the tapes and my friend with the originals has >left :( As someone else already noted, there was some sort of accident that tragically killed a couple (?) of band members. I first heard of them when I saw them open for Robyn Hitchcock, and they were really outstanding. As Chris noted, the singer was particularly engaging. Subsequently, I got two CDs by the band, "One Man's Trash Is Another Man's Treasure" and "Lefty's Deceiver." I'd love to comply with your request for a tape, but my wife has the CDs and she currently lives 500 miles away (it's a long, sad :( story). I believe that they have at least one other album that I recall having seen, but that may be a mistake on my part. Anyway, if you would like those two on a new tape, I may be able to arrange it. Let me know. By the way, Robyn Hitchcock was as eccentric and hilarious as always that night I saw the Jody Grind. ___________________________________________________________________________ Jeff Pearce pearceja@wl.wpafb.af.mil And though I'd like to laugh At all the things that led me on Somehow the stigma still remains David Sylvian - "Waterfront" ___________________________________________________________________________ ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 13:52:22 CST From: Tim Bailey Subject: Fwd: Free E-Mag on Advances in Computing This appeared in my mailbox at school..someone might get use out of it.. Courtney ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Hey, this looks like something many of us might find useful! 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Went into this place called the Philadelphia Cheesesteak Co. and they had a poster up that said "A Hoagie is not a Sub, or a Grinder, A Zep, or a " Below this was a picture of a hoagie with various comments, like Oregeno: a must. Cheese: Provolone is preferable, white American acceptable, but suburban. Tomatos: red, juicy and Jersey. At the bottom, it said "If you change even one ingredient, it may still be good, but it is not a hoagie." I wanted to take notes all through lunch, but didn't have a pen. Neal ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 13:37:45 PST From: Neal Copperman Subject: the difference between men & women I got this in my box and found it eratic (that's er-a-tic) but occassionally quite funny. It's also quite long, so here is the first few paragraphs, and if anyone is really taken by them, I'll be happy to pass them along. Otherwise, I thought I'd spare the digest folk from too much to skip over. Neal Sure, you thought you already knew that. But now there is proof! After countless hours of surveys and studies on the following topics, these facts have emerged: Relationships: First of all, a man does not call a relationship a relationship - he refers to it as "that time when me and Suzie was doing it on a semi-regular basis". When a relationship ends, a woman will cry and pour her heart out to her girlfriends, and she will write a poem titled "All Men Are Idiots". Then she will get on with her life. A man has a little more trouble letting go. Six months after the break-up, at 3:00 a.m. on a Saturday night, he will call and say, "I just wanted to let you know you ruined my life, and I'll never forgive you, and I hate you, and you're a total floozy. But I want you to know there's always a chance for us". This is known as the "I Hate You/I Love You" drunken phone call, that 99% of all men have made at least once. There are community colleges that offer courses to help men get over this need; alas, these classes rarely prove effective. Sex: Women prefer 30 - 45 minutes of foreplay. Men prefer 30 - 45 seconds of foreplay. Men consider driving back to her place as part of the foreplay. Maturity: Women mature much faster than men. Most 17-year-old females can function as adults. Most 17-year-old males are still trading baseball cards and giving each other wedgies after gym class. This is why high school romances rarely work. Hats: Women look good in hats; men look like dinks. ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 17:36:57 CST From: johnh@astro.as.utexas.edu (John Higdon) Subject: RE: Rhodes II [In message "Rhodes 2..." on Jan 21, freeform@aol.com writes:] Hi... I would like to know what everyone's opinion of the _Rhodes 2_ album is. I just heard it for the first time yesterday, and found that none of the songs really grabbed me as much as when I first heard _Rhodes 1_. For me, Rhodes II was the first of the early Happy to make an impression. Songs like Come Here, Under and Over the Brink, and Noone Here I felt especially at home with. I just couldn't break into Rhodes I. Since then, UAOTB and NH have elevated themselves in my regards, while CH remained behind. And many of the songs in Rhodes I are favorites, too. (No specifics here, as I have already posted a top 20.) Still working on Rearmament. At the same time (Uh, oh), I'm trying out Victoria Williams, Happy Come Home. And I'm trying to convince my wallet that I have enough money to get Sweet Relief and, in a week's time, T.A.'s Under the Pink. While, at the same time, wondering when K.B.'s TLTCTC movie will sneak into the picture, and waiting for a favorite local act to come out with her new one this semester. I actually made a list the other day of what I have to budget to buy;I never make lists! Well, I thought that Gaffa was up again, only to find out the obvious opposite. As I've always known, the surest way to get yourself down is to have high expectations. I send good luck out to those attempting to solve the problem. Still perusing the import singles bins for Cornflake Girl... John H. ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 16:58:25 CST From: Subject: Surrendering to the spirit of the night again? Looks like the procrastination subroutine in the RUTVM1 mailer is up and runnin g again :-). It was after 11 PM, my time, when my posts from yesterday after- noon finally bounced back to my account. So much for tipping anyone off to the review of Morphine on _Fresh Air_ yesterday. With luck, this one may reach you while you're watching _World News Now_--about which, BTW, last Sunday's New Yor k Times reportedly had an article, which I haven't been able to find yet. I was, however, able to find two stories tangentially relevant to us in yester- day's Chicago Tribune. One was that Rutgers, the home of this list, is thinkin g of switching athletic conferences, and may end up in the Big 10. The other was that Harlow, England., the home of Steve Fagg, was the site of the armed robbery of a hospital gift shop, in which the perpetrators' take was limited to quantities of teddy bears and chocolate. Go figure :-). I forgot to mention a couple of things yesterday. One was that the packages from Brian and Jens arrived over the weekend, for which many thanks. The other was that either yesterday or Friday, it almost seemed that _Morning Edition_ was playing Happy as a transition between stories--the tune started out a lot like the one with the lyric "oh child, be strong in all you do" or something like that, but then evolved into something completely different. Oh well. :-) WRT woj's tips for the _hoagie rosa_ :-) use of a recording Walkman at con- certs: anyone who gets bent out of shape about such things needs to be reminde d about how Michelle Shocked was made a star of in the first place: a producer made a close-to-the-vest-dub of her set at a festival on a recording Walkman, and it was later released as _The Texas Campfire Tapes_. Something else I forgot yesterday: About 6:30 AM Sunday, WBEZ ran a document- ary on the history of women's music (albeit downplaying the role of lesbian separatism in its early days), which featured a few words from Ani DiFranco. We have all received the following delivery from the Holly Roman Empire: :-) >If Sister Marcellus had told me when I was in the fourth grade that >God would take me to heaven on a burning spikey wheel for the mere >price of letting myself get tortured for the sake of my beliefs, I >might have tried to be a good Catholic girl. > >Who needs The Brothers Grimm or Hans Christian Andersen when you've >got _Lives of the Saints?_ Methinks it also offers some elliptical insight into the popularity of asb, the newsgroup that proves, incontrovertibly, that a virtual commumnity need not necessarily be a virtuous community :-). Now to send this off, and see whether my musical contribution (one of many) to the HGP is symbolic of anything besides the way I end up putting my monologues on tape :-). Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 20:23:05 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (world serve your own needs) Subject: big hat ezust@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (Alan Ezust) sez: >Anyway, my fave tracks on Shimmer are: You Lied, Skin, When Did You Stop, >Garden of Edith. But the whole album is masterful... Tell me what you >think of these 4 tracks though. "garden of edith" is a viable reason for existing. vickie agrees. :) +woj ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 21:00:09 GMT From: johnh@astro.as.utexas.edu (John Higdon) Subject: my vi Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 17:36:57 CST From: johnh@astro.as.utexas.edu (John Higdon) Subject: RE: Rhodes II Boy, I just found out how much my vi editor sucks! Sorry kids, but the Tower of Babel has just fallen on me. John H. ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 20:19:51 -0500 From: farmer@lifesci.lscf.ucsb.edu (Chris Farmer) Subject: jody grind & the clinch thanks to woj and jeff for updating me, i was shocked to hear about the accident. i really appreciate your offer jeff, but being selfish, i would like to obtain copies of the cds myself :). do you remember if there was an address or anything for the record company or will i just have to wish on a lucky star and hope to find the cds in some dusty used cd bin somewhere? any further lightbulbs about the potential existance of a third album? >Jeremy Corry writes: >... > > The Ellen James Society (the band) apparently received a letter from the > > Ellen James Society (the women) who politely indicated they preferred their > > name not be used in the music industry. > >What? The Ellen James Society _exists_? Are you sure? > >Michael Butler yep, i too was under the impressiong that it also was a real group, not just from the world according to garp. Jeremy - Thanks much for the tip on the EJS name change. don't remember ever seeing any albums/bins for the Clinch, but i wasn't really looking before. **************************************************************** * Chris Farmer (805) 893-2532 |let me help you off with your * * Biology Dept., UCSB |golden chains / we'll throw * * Santa Barbara, CA 93106 |them in the river... * * farmer@lifesci.ucsb.edu | -penelope houston * **************************************************************** ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 0:34:41 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: big hat woj invokes my name: > ezust@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (Alan Ezust) sez: > >Anyway, my fave tracks on Shimmer are: You Lied, Skin, When Did You Stop, > >Garden of Edith. But the whole album is masterful... Tell me what you > >think of these 4 tracks though. > > "garden of edith" is a viable reason for existing. vickie agrees. :) :-) Yep! Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 0:53:41 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: jody grind & the clinch ChrisF has already heard about The Jody Grind: > thanks to woj and jeff for updating me, i was shocked to hear about the > accident. It's so sad :-(. I thought I'd mention that the lead singer is *not* one of the band members who died in the accident. I have no idea what she's doing now, but I hope we'll see her again in the future. I don't have any Jody Grind albums either, but I've heard their music and I like some songs very much. > >Jeremy Corry writes: > >... > > > The Ellen James Society (the band) apparently received a letter from the > > > Ellen James Society (the women) who politely indicated they preferred their > > > name not be used in the music industry. Michael Butler: > >What? The Ellen James Society _exists_? Are you sure? > yep, i too was under the impressiong that it also was a real group, not > just from the world according to garp. This is so bizarre! I've never heard of a real-life group like this. The group was so strange in Garp that I'd have to have some heavy-duty confirmation before I believed they really existed. Not that some people aren't that crazy (to cut out their tongues in solidarity) but I've just never heard of it except for Garp. Vickie ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)