Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #983 ecto, Number 983 Sunday, 30 January 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* picasso/nilsson/soup/gong/etc CIS Internet Access Innocence Mission It's about bloody time... Re: It's about bloody time... * Cocteau Twins Tour Dates * Global Alert For All: Ecto is Becoming Tedious Re: ecto #974 October Project ALERT: European readers (was: Re: Victoria Williams on Letterman Friday) Re: Rhodes II Re: Rhodes II finally got to hear... Re: finally got to hear... Re: finally got to hear... ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 23 Jan 94 03:57:47 EST From: mojzes@monet.vill.edu (brni) Subject: picasso/nilsson/soup/gong/etc hi ho. its late. i'm making soup. i dunno why i'm making soup at 3:30 am. maybe its an excuse to be up to listen to my new disks... maybe not. today i went shopping for the new crash test dummies disk for my brother's bday. the first place i went to didn't have it, so i bought thomas dolby's _the flat earth_ and the dave holland quintet _seeds of time_. dave holland is amazing. um, its jazz, if you didn't catch that from the "quintet" bit. dave is a bass player, so all you low-end fans have something to look into. so after band practice i went to tower and found crash test dummies. i also found a new mother gong disk (with daevid allen playing as well) called _she made the world_. yeah, its wierd hippy drippy music. i love it. its a lot mellower than the older gong stuff i know (not counting the wierd new age/jazz phase they went thru). lyrics from "malicious sausage": "today was like wrestling with a huge sausage slippery an fat a confetti of intentions is vacuumed inside its thick pink skin i think about the infinite but walk about in the shiny pink shoes of today..." :) i also chanced upon the diamanda galas video, "day of judgement" i've only seen a little bit of it. its her, alright... :) weelllll, time for a few responses... >From: Neal Copperman > >Perhaps an Oven Grinder is like an Organ Grinder. Chefs cranking up > ack. well, i'm not letting anyone do that to *my* organ... ------------ >From: Michael Colford >On Wed, 19 Jan 1994, brni wrote: > >> hmmm. we played Bat. sorta like a mixture of hide-and-seek, and >> tag, but with a baseball bat. > >I'm afraid to ask. What was the bat for?? > it was attached to the large rock... ________________ >From: brianb@netcom.com (Brian Bloom) > >My folks are from Pennsylvania (but yinz already knew that ;) and when >I was growing up we *always* had hoagies. I've really confused some sub >shop owners who were unfamiliar with the term (sigh). Anyway, >here is Br!an's patented way to make a hoagie: (Copyright 1994) > [carnivorous hoagie recipe deleted] [vegan hoagie recipe inserted] you can use a hoagie roll if you must, but this will taste a lot better on a loaf (or 1/2 loaf) of freshly baked italian bread. cut it open. put in a layer of lettuce. then add onions, tomatoes, sweet peppers, hot peppers, fresh bell peppers, slices of cucumber (peel the skin if it is waxed), broccoli bits, cauliflower bits, mushrooms (sliced), alphalfa sprouts, thinly sliced radishes and carrots, and whatever else you feel like adding. then garnish with oil and vinegar and oregano. ahhhh yum... there was this gay jewish deli around the corner from where i work that made these for us. sigh. they were forced to close when their main investor decided that he wanted all his money back right away. :( -------------- >From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) > >Second, I mourn the passing of Harry Nilsson, one of the stranger >artists to grace music in the Seventies. Though not Ecto-fodder, he >has been in the pages of Ecto, and I even snuck him on the 1993 Happy >Birthday Project tape. I've been a fan of his since I heard >"Everybody's Talking" on the radio way too many years ago :) (1969?) and >a huge fan since I first heard _Nilsson Schmillson_ a couple years later. >Another one bites the dust. :( > and we mustn't forget everyone's favorite: _the point_. do you know how he died? i'm very sad. today telly sevales (sp?) died. :( sigh. ----------------- >From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (world serve your own needs) > >anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) sez: >>"Euphoria" - Insides >>This is a strange one - on the Guernica label run by 4AD, this two-piece UK >>band that used to be called Earwig do a kind of SylvianSakamotoesque mellow >>instrumental thing with lots of sequenced instruments, > >haven't heard this yet, but it's on the list. were earwig a uk band? i >thought they were from massachusetts for some vgue reason. > >also, for those who care, i found out where the heck ivo came up with >the name guernica: it's a town in the basque country where an ancient >oak tree thrived as the symbol of their legal system, a democracy that >predated the magna carta. whoa. > "guernica" is also one of picasso's most famous paintings. its pretty hideous. well, thats as far as i've gotten. gotta go deal with my soup. i should probably do laundry too... say goodnight, gracie... brni ======================================================================== From: p.cohen@genie.geis.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 94 03:51:00 BST Subject: CIS Internet Access Sorry, Bob. CompuServe only has Internet mail access, same as GEnie. Only commercial choices right now for ftp and such is either Delphi or wait until AOL gets it going sometime this spring. +########################################################################+ +###+ Paul Cohen, Philadelphia, PA +###+ +########################################################################+ +###+ P.COHEN@genie.geis.com +###+ PMCOHEN@aol.com +###+ +###+ 70703.3126@compuserve.com +###+ PMCOHEN@delphi.com +###+ +########################################################################+ ======================================================================== From: p.cohen@genie.geis.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 94 03:50:00 BST Subject: Innocence Mission > Speaking of which, after 2 brilliant albums and a tour that I missed > but heard wasn't quite as wonderful, what's the deal with IM? Anybody > know? Are thing coming out with #3 soon? They *are* due. Personally, I felt the second album, "Umbrella" was somewhat less than brilliant. Not bad, but the songs just don't have the lasting power of the first album. I, too, would like to see a new album from them. +########################################################################+ +###+ Paul Cohen, Philadelphia, PA +###+ +########################################################################+ +###+ P.COHEN@genie.geis.com +###+ PMCOHEN@aol.com +###+ +###+ 70703.3126@compuserve.com +###+ PMCOHEN@delphi.com +###+ +########################################################################+ ======================================================================== From: princevlad@aol.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 94 09:14:30 EST Subject: It's about bloody time... Greetings, fellow ecto-folk! I am proud to announce that I am no longer a Happy Virgin. Erm...perhaps I should clarify that. I was strolling through Tower Records not expecting to find anything extraordinary when, just for a laugh (it *was* Tower, after all), I looked to see if they had a Happy Rhodes section (I expected to *maybe* find a disc or two under "Miscellaneous R" if anything). I was pleased to find a copy of "equipoise" staring back at me, so naturally, after a few months of reading her praises here, I snatched it up immediately. WOW. I'm listening to it on my headphones as I type this, and I'm becoming more overwhelmed with each listening (the little background vocals and other nice production touches *really* stand out on headphones). I probably shouldn't even post anything yet, since I'm still trying to take it all in, and as I'm sure you're aware, that's not something that can really be done with a couple of casual listenings. Still, I've been so impressed that I couldn't resist posting something, even if it's this sort of delerious babbling. The more I listen to it, the more I think "HOW could I have missed this until now??"...I mean, Kate, Tori, Sarah, yes, very nice, thank you, we know that already. But "Happy who?" Goodness, I've got some catching up to do. :D Don't even get me started on "temporary and eternal"...it's the kind of song that, when I listen to it, I can hardly keep my eyes open, much less calm the chills running throughout my body. Makes me want to just curl up into a fetal position somewhere...does that make sense? I mean that in a good way...it just really "gets me" like that... Whew...this *is* a bit of nonsense, isn't it? Well...perhaps I'll just send this off, roll back into a ball, and shiver... :D Note: intelligible assessment and discussion of above mentioned artist to be posted in the future pending repeated listenings, and possibly a bucket of cold water dumped on me to snap me out of it. ;D Wow...that's a really dumb word, but....wow... -Vlad princevlad@aol.com ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 23 Jan 94 10:56:33 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: It's about bloody time... Vlad's been impaled by Happiness: > Greetings, fellow ecto-folk! > I am proud to announce that I am no longer a Happy Virgin. Congratulations!! > WOW. > > I'm listening to it on my headphones as I type this, and I'm becoming more > overwhelmed with each listening (the little background vocals and other nice > production touches *really* stand out on headphones). I probably shouldn't > even post anything yet, since I'm still trying to take it all in, and as I'm > sure you're aware, that's not something that can really be done with a couple > of casual listenings. Still, I've been so impressed that I couldn't resist > posting something, even if it's this sort of delerious babbling. The more I > listen to it, the more I think "HOW could I have missed this until now??"...I > mean, Kate, Tori, Sarah, yes, very nice, thank you, we know that already. > But "Happy who?" Goodness, I've got some catching up to do. :D How wonderful! I'm *so* glad you like her!! I just *LOVE* posts like this :) You can probably understand the importance now of word-of-mouth, and why Happy loves Ecto. I certainly don't understand why she's been ignored for so long (I mean by record companies, most radio stations, critics) because, being the eternal optimist that I am, I think everyone should react the way you have :-). > Don't even get me started on "temporary and eternal"...it's the kind of song > that, when I listen to it, I can hardly keep my eyes open, much less calm the > chills running throughout my body. Makes me want to just curl up into a > fetal position somewhere...does that make sense? I mean that in a good > way...it just really "gets me" like that... Oh *yeah*, I understand *exactly* how you feel... > Whew...this *is* a bit of nonsense, isn't it? Well...perhaps I'll just send > this off, roll back into a ball, and shiver... :D I don't think it's nonsense at all! > Note: intelligible assessment and discussion of above mentioned artist to be > posted in the future pending repeated listenings, and possibly a bucket of > cold water dumped on me to snap me out of it. ;D :-) assessment and discussion, please. You don't really *need* to be snapped out of it :-) > Wow...that's a really dumb word, but....wow... > -Vlad > princevlad@aol.com Thanks for posting Vlad! I love it! Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 23 Jan 94 11:00:23 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: * Cocteau Twins Tour Dates * Re-posted from alt.music.alternative: ----------------------------------------------------- From: meridian@vax1.mankato.msus.edu Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative Subject: COCTEAU TWINS tour dates HERE! Date: 20 Jan 94 22:21:23 GMT By popular demand, Cocteau Twins dates: It's not confirmed who's opening, but Seefeel are in the U.K. I'll post it when I know. 2/24 - houston 2/25 - Dallas 2/26 - Austin 2/28 - New Orleans 3/2 - Miami 3/3 - Ybor City, FL 3/4 - Atlanta 3/8 - Wash D.C. 3/9 - Phily 3/10 - Boston 3/12 - NYC 3/14 - Montreal 3/16 - Toronto 3/17 - Cleveland 3/18 - Detroit 3/19 - Columbus 31 - Cincinnati 3/21 - Cincinnati 3/22 - Chicago 3/23 - Mnpls 3/25 - Denver 3/26 - Salt Lake City 3/28 - Seattle 3/29 - Vancouver 3/30 - Portland 4/1 - San Fran 4/2 - San Fran 4/3 - Universal City, CA 4/5 - San Diego 4/6 - Claremont, CA Enjoy! ------------------------------------------------------------- Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 23 Jan 94 17:28:37 MET From: Albert Philipsen Subject: Global Alert For All: Ecto is Becoming Tedious Hi! (As you can see, I'm back at my old address.) Quite some time ago, I misquoted Happy: >"You are transparent, an open book." - Happy I'm sorry about that. Of course, it should have been: "I am transparent, an open book." That will teach me not to quote lyrics from memory. :) I picked up some rather cheap used copies of _Robin Holcomb_ and _Love Me_ by Anna Palm today. I enjoy Robin's voice and music, but some of her lyrics get on my nerves. Even though _Love Me_ is lovely, the beat used on most tracks eventually might start to annoy me. Did I mention yet that Tori's new "Cornflake Girl" single is is really wonderful? I very much like the way she plays the piano, so it's great that she put two piano instrumentals on the single. Albert "Take the sun away Bloom no flower Call the voices off Send the angels to shower The dark rolls in" ======================================================================== From: halasz@kewszeg.norden1.com (Hala'sz Sa'ndor) Subject: Re: ecto #974 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 94 17:21:48 CST !We can comfort ourselves by remembering that "amateur" means "one who !does something for the love of it." I'm an amateur at this, sure! !(Also an amateur cook, amateur brewer, amateur seamstress, amateur !bird breeder... hey, I kinda like this. :-) ) But first an "amateur" was a lover "Qui custodiet ipsos custodes?" Answer to oss!kewszeg!halasz ======================================================================== From: p.cohen@genie.geis.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 94 23:24:00 BST Subject: October Project Kelly mentioned The October Project. I've heard some of their material on WXPN (Philly) and they sound really interesting. Anybody know any details on them? I seem to have gone CD crazy after this week's ice experience and went a little nuts. I bought: Cocteau Twins - Four-Calendar Cafe About time, I'd say. Melanie - Freedom Knows My Name Surprise of the week - Melanie has a new album! Now I've been a long time fan and was quite pleased to see this. Caravan & The New Symphonia A friend of mine has a record store. A guy ordered this import and then decided he didn't want it. I've always loved Caravan and decided to take it off his hands and put my LP copy to rest. Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville Well, now. Everyone on the planet has been raving about this one, so I thought I'd see what all the fuss was about. I didn't particularly care for the single, but the album I quite like. The Breeders - Last Splash I'm kinda mixed on this one. Has some wonderful tracks, but doesn't seem consistent in quality. Will give it some more listens, though. Mike Keneally - Hat ex-Zappa sideman's wonderful album showing heavy Zappa, Rundgren and XTC influences. I found it in my local store's $5 "junk" bin. Squeeze - Play I picked up their new one last week, so I thought I'd backtrack and grab this one. Especially since I found a used copy for $7.99. Peter Hammill - And Close As This Another $5 "junk" bin find. Enough for now. +########################################################################+ +###+ Paul Cohen, Philadelphia, PA +###+ +########################################################################+ +###+ P.COHEN@genie.geis.com +###+ PMCOHEN@aol.com +###+ +###+ 70703.3126@compuserve.com +###+ PMCOHEN@delphi.com +###+ +########################################################################+ ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 23:32:00 +0100 From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Subject: ALERT: European readers (was: Re: Victoria Williams on Letterman Friday) > During tonight's show Letterman said Victoria Williams would be on > tomorrow. (Friday) I saw it so long ago I'm beginning to think I > heard it wrong. :) For all Europeans being able to receive the German pay-tv station premiere: premiere is broadcasting the Letterman show one (week)day after its showing in the US, and that even uncoded, so everyone can watch (& record) it. So watch out: premiere (somewhere on ASTRA or in German cable TV), Late Show with David Letterman Monday night 0:35-1:25 (CET) (actually Tuesday...) or Monday night 23:25-0:25 (GMT) (now this IS Monday...) should have Victoria Williams performing. Ciao, Uli -- "Ich bin gluecklich verheiratet mit zwei Maedchen und einem Jungen" - Roman Schedler in Aber Hallo, Jan. 23rd, 1993 ======================================================================== From: r.lovejoy1@genie.geis.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 94 20:52:00 BST Subject: Re: Rhodes II Freeform, Rhodes II has always been one of my favorites! "Come Here", "Let Me Know, Love", "Where Do I Go", and "Asylum Master" are magnificent constructions, while the rest of the songs are merely facinating! :) Please give it more time, it's a deserving album. It was actually recorded over the same period as Rhodes I, they're sort of a Double Album... Anyway, try it louder! +*************************************************************************+ + Robert Lovejoy + I've got a letter here postmarked Deep Space + + Deepspace + -The Firesign Theatre + + Cherry Hill, NJ + But baby I'm here and I've been quite an + + r.lovejoy1@genie.geis.com+ Alien too... + + kdvn07a on Prodigy + -Happy Rhodes + +*************************************************************************+ ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 21:08:44 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Lamb Subject: Re: Rhodes II On Sun, 23 Jan 1994 r.lovejoy1@genie.geis.com wrote: > Anyway, try it louder! Now there is a suggestion we all should take to heart. Let our neighbors know of Happy by pure volume! :) Steve C. Lamb Sysop, Abcb Cafe (916) 363-1424 24/7/356 2400-14.4K v32bis PGP key CRC: 384/6CFEE3 - Insert funny line from KOR here. When I think of one, I'll do the same - ======================================================================== Subject: finally got to hear... Date: Mon, 24 Jan 94 01:50:25 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu 1) Opium Den, _Diary of a Drunken Sun_ Great album title. Groovacious album. Very crunchy arrangements. Very pretty vocals. Ethereal at times, more 'rock' at others. Neat stuff. Wish I had a lyric sheet. 2) Cocteau Twins, _Four Calendar Cafe_ Wow. I really wasn't sure what to expect. Most of my CT exposure has been _Victorialand_ and Liz Frazier's work on _It'll End in Tears_. I've heard _Blue Bell Knoll_ (wasn't terribly impressed at the time, though I suspect I'd like it more now), _Heaven or Las Vegas_ (only heard it once but enjoyed it) and a few other misc tracks (including such things as "Winter Wonderland" and "The Spangle Maker"). Anyway, I absolutely loved _FCC_. And I rather suspect my father would enjoy it too. Definitely for the "when I have dough" list. 3) Big Hat, _Shimmer_ Well, no, I didn't hear the whole thing, just the first bunch o' tracks. That first track (erotomania?) is absolutely incredible. I wasn't quite as enamored with what followed, but the album is probably worth having for that one song. And I would guess that the rest would grow on me quite quickly. 4) Grace Darling (eponymous? or did it have a title?) A rather quirky vocalist. The first song somehow made me think of Victoria Williams, simply because the voice caught me by surprise in much the way I was startled when I heard "Vieux Amis", the first VW song I ever heard (at the time, I was listening to a tape and was *convinced* that my walkman was broken! Then I realized that the instruments in the arrangement sounded 'normal' and it was just that VOICE!). Anyway, I liked the Grace Darling stuff, but probably not enough to buy it unless I win a lottery or somethin'. ------------ Many thanks to whomever it was who put out the original Victoria Williams and Aimee Man warnings for latenight tv on friday night. I was able to get both of them on videotape. Victoria Williams had along with her the lead singer of Soul Asylum, so of course they performed "Summer of Drugs." It was quite good--I much prefer the duet to the version on "Sweet Relief", though I'm undecided as to how they compare to the original (while I'm not lucky enough to have _Swing the Statue_, a good friend of mine has a promo for it which contains "Summer of Drugs," "Boogeyman," "Tarbelly and Featherfoot", and one other which I love but don't recall the name of (something about kites...;-) and I've a tape of that promo). As usual, Paul Schaeffer 'n co. played along. It's funny--just the night before, a friend and I were watching my tape o' Tori stuff, which has her Letterman appearance (4/23/92) and discussing how horrible Paul and his band sounded behind Tori and how Paul tends to ruin songs a lot. So I'm listening to Victoria Williams and thinking that for once Paul's not doing too bad...and then the songs ends and he throws in this horrible Beatlesy-lucy-in-the-sky pitch bending shit and I was mortified. Later, the same evening, Aimee Mann appeared briefly on Conan O'Brien's show and sang "Stupid" (or is that "Stupid Thing"). Aimee played bass, and the two guitarists were the ones she's had on tour with her. I wasn't sure if it was the same drummer or not. Nothing terribly new or exciting here, but as a raving Aimee Man fan, it's nice to have... ------------------ Okay, here's an old one. A while back, someone was talking about the Aimee Mann show he'd seen somewhere in CA, and mentioned the casio "synth" that was used for the solo in "Mr. Roberts". The synth of note here is a little thingy that Casio put out Way Back When. I laughed aloud when I saw it at the show I was at (the Bayou, here in DC; "Mr. Roberts" wasn't played on the earlier leg of the tour I saw in Baltimore), as I had had one of those synths myself. This thing was standard cheap casio, though it probably wasn't cheap at the time. It could only play one note at a time, though it did have all those cheesy Casio rhythms (rhumba, disco, etc.) that you could play along. It had a memory function so you could record melodies and play them back. And, most humorous, IT WAS ALSO A CALCULATOR! The keys had little numbers on them and of course there was an LCD. Most humorous. But the other thing that seeing this casio keyboard reminded me of--particularly in it's amazingly effective use, was the Residents' _Cube-E: the history of American music in 3 E-Z pieces_. You see, during the first section, _Buckaroo Blues_, there's a piece called "Cowboy Waltz." It's a somber, depressing, and absolutely gorgeous instrumental that brings tears to my eyes. Although I have the official _Cube-E_ live album, the first time I heard the "Cowboy Waltz" was when I saw Cube-E performed in Chicago in November '91. (The concert, performance art to my mind, though I don't think the Residents are pretentious enough to call it that themselves, was very theatrical). During the "Cowboy Waltz" one of the musicians appeared with one of those horrible Casio mini-saxophones. It's this little silver thing that looks like a foot long sax, and while I think it had a midi-out, it's *nothing* like, say, a Yamaha wind midi controller. In fact, it's impossible to refer to this Casio sax monstrosity as anything more than a toy. I wanted to laugh when I saw the musician holding it. And yet, this thing was used to play one of the most beautiful, poignant solos I've heard. Anyway. ---------- Enough for tonight... Oh, but one last word. GO LISTEN TO VOLUME II!!!!! I've never really cared for "The Revelation" (nice lyrics, but the melody line is just too damned high; it grates on me), but "Let Me Know, Love" is one of the best things Happy has ever written/performed. In fact, it's one of the best things _anyone_ has performed. And I love "The Chase" (miss the 8 min version on the CD. ) and "Come Here" ("Be still relax"!), "Not For Me," "One Alien," "Under and Over the Brink", "Beat it Out," "Asylum Master." Shit. It's just occurred to me that in the I Love list I'd have to include every song on the album except "The Revelation". It's a brilliant album. Go listen to it. NOW. ;-) "Dwindle, day, your flickering ray Put to rest so that I may lay To churn and roll on the floor To beat it out, to beat it out Got to get it out. Got to get it out" Jeff Jeffrey C. Burka | "Everything is still with a fear of never coming out | |Suffering Bad Grammar| Never following through / Never ever finishing | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | What we wanted to do." -- Melissa Ferrick | ======================================================================== From: Neil K. Guy Subject: Re: finally got to hear... Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 23:29:34 -0800 (PST) > Great album title. Groovacious album. Very crunchy arrangements. Groovacious. *Great* word! :) > [...] I had had one of those > synths myself. This thing was standard cheap casio, though it probably > wasn't cheap at the time. It could only play one note at a time, though it > did have all those cheesy Casio rhythms (rhumba, disco, etc.) that you > could play along. It had a memory function so you could record melodies > and play them back. And, most humorous, IT WAS ALSO A CALCULATOR! The > keys had little numbers on them and of course there was an LCD. Most > humorous. You're talking about those little CasioTone gadgets, aren't you? About a foot long with little pushbuttons? My sister got one from a relative when we kids. She didn't use it much but I had lots of fun playing with it. That memory function you mention was brilliant - you could laboriously type in a melody in memory mode note by note, deleting errors. Then you could play it back with the AutoPlay key, so you could play a tune of sorts even if you couldn't play a keyboard by punching in the notes and then tapping out the rhythm later... In high school a friend of mine and I put together a recorded tape of music and jokes and such that featured a lot of Casiotone rhythm tracks, sort of like "Da Da Da" by that German group of the mid-80s, the name of which escapes me. That was a nifty gadget! It made noises that were cheesy as all hell, but it was cheap and easy to use. Talk about enabling technologies. :) - Neil K. -- 49N 16' 123W 7' / Vancouver, BC, Canada / neil_k_guy@sfu.ca ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 23 Jan 94 23:49:07 PST From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: Re: finally got to hear... > In high school a friend of mine and I put together a recorded tape of > music and jokes and such that featured a lot of Casiotone rhythm > tracks, sort of like "Da Da Da" by that German group of the mid-80s, > the name of which escapes me. That would be Trio. I think the complete lyrics are as follows: da da da Ich lieb' dich nicht, du liebst mich nicht da da da Ich lieb' dich nicht, du liebst mich nicht da da da ... Oh, you get the idea. :) D^2 ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)