Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #973 ecto, Number 973 Tuesday, 18 January 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Rhodes One Tori Tour dates in the U.K. Re: Ectofete pt.1 Re: Bound By The Beauty... & Rhodes One Will FTE Change Your Opinion of Sarah? Re: Happy...Jane.. Quakes, Nilsson, music 1993 Happy Gift Project -- reprise Re: Question for Jane fans Sarah, Jane The Dark/Young Snakes this Saturday! Re: Jane Re: Sarah, Jane Ectofete pt.1 Sarah, Jane ======================================================================== From: freeform@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 94 21:52:35 EST Subject: Rhodes One Hi.. Well, I am happy to report that I got _Rhodes One_ today. The cashier at the record store remarked that you could get nightmares from looking at Happy Rhodes' CD covers.. :D I've played it twice so far and I love it! Songs that stand out at this point include "Given In", "Possessed", "Number One" and "Moonbeam Friends", and I *LOVE* "The Wretches Gone Awry"!! This is my 4th of Happy's CD's and I can't wait to get to the rest of them but I'm being careful not to overdose on too much new Happy at once.. I'm curious about a couple of things... Why is it that Happy hasn't been picked up by a major recording label? It seems obvious that she appeals to the same audience as Kate/Tori/Jane/Sarah etc., so what is the problem? Also, why do so many of Happy's songs seem to be about suicide and inner demons? Apparently she was anything BUT 'happy' while growing up..?? If it is true that she had a rather depressing childhood, I sure hope that things are better for her now. Charles ======================================================================== From: Tim Cook Date: Tue, 18 Jan 94 08:26:29 GMT Subject: Tori Tour dates in the U.K. Pinched from the pages of the NME! 24 Feb Newcastle Upon Tyne theatre 25 Warwick Arts Centre 27 Glasgow Pavillion 28 Edinburgh Queens hall 1 Mar Manchester Free Trade Hall 3 Leeds City Varieties music hall 4 Cambridge Corn Exchange 6 London, Her Majestys theatre 7 Bristol Colston Hall tim PS Hope all LA ectophiles are o.k. (and all the LA non-ectophiles as well) ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 01:53:37 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: Re: Ectofete pt.1 kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis): > Chevy's at the Embarcadero (a mexican chain with pretty good food and > margaritas) where we can assemble, dine and then head to North Beach for Very Americanized Mexican food, but not authentic Mexican. That's not to say it's bad, it's not like Taco Bell or anything, it's just not authentic. (I've eaten at the one in Alameda, across the bay.) You should go for sushi or Chinese! Or something else SF is known for. I wish I could get some bay-area-quality sushi here but at least there is plenty of excellent Mexican food here. AlexGibbs arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu |\| | (~, |-| ~|~ |-| /-\ \/\/ |< Short sign on short post. ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 10:34:13 +0000 From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk (Steve Fagg's Mac) Subject: Re: Bound By The Beauty... & Rhodes One At 3:16 pm 17/1/94 -0500, freeform@aol.com wrote: >Speaking of Sarah, I don't seem to be as big a fan of hers as some of the >other Ectophiles. I have _Touch_ and _Solace_ and I like them, but they >don't seem to 'click' for me in a big way. I don't have her new album yet >(I'm waiting for the U.S. release), so maybe this one will do it for me..? Hi! Charles. Yes, I think maybe "Fumbling Towards Ecstasy" might do it for you. It's a huge advance over "Solace", much more so than "Solace" was over "Touch", IMO. Imagine a "Solace" where "Drawn to the Rythm" was the weakest track and you might get some idea of what I'm talking about. I'm still amazed that both Jane & Sarah came out with such astonishingly powerful albums within such a short space of time! Then... At 9:52 pm 17/1/94 -0500, freeform@aol.com wrote: >Well, I am happy to report that I got _Rhodes One_ today. The cashier at the >record store remarked that you could get nightmares from looking at Happy >Rhodes' CD covers.. :D :-) That's my favourite of Happy's "monster" covers! >but I'm being careful not to overdose on too much new Happy at once.. This is a good idea. There's so much to get into in each album that it would be a shame to rush on from one to the next too quickly. I expect you'll find that some of the songs that haven't grabbed your attention in the first few listens may turn out to be your favourites in the longer run. >Also, why do so many of Happy's songs seem to be about suicide and inner >demons? Apparently she was anything BUT 'happy' while growing up..?? If >it is true that she had a rather depressing childhood, I sure hope that >things are better for her now. Yes. It seems that Happy did have a very disturbed and difficult adolescence. Her music seems to have been a major help to her in getting herself sorted out. She's a very self-reliant person and seems to have needed to find both sufficient inner strength and sufficient personal freedom to stand alone before she could feel that she had the monsters back where they belong. Some of the lyrics on "Equipoise" (do you have that album yet?) deal with this. I think getting together with Kevin has been a pretty positive thing in Happy's life too :-). So all-in-all I don't think she's still suffering the inner torments of her youth any longer. In my view, this is reflected in the increasingly externally-inspired subject matter of many of the songs on the last two albums. -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** New .sig quote currently under construction. *** ======================================================================== From: Tree of Schnopia Subject: Will FTE Change Your Opinion of Sarah? Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 08:59:57 -0500 (EST) ...well, no, but it might jack it up seventeen notches. Charles, you mentioned not "clicking" with Touch and Solace (first (to my knowledge) two Sarah McLachlan albums). I had the same problem...I loved them both, but Touch was a little too lightweight and Solace a little too melancholy and...I don't know, *something* to become my favorite albums. (Imagine, something being too melancholy for *me*! Maybe I mean it had too much pathos.) I mean, I really thought they were wonderful, but after the initial thrills and adorations, they didn't shake the earth for me, know what I mean? Incidentally (guilt here, unadulterated shame), I have a similar problem with all of Happy's albums except my beloved Warpaint. They're terrific, don't get me wrong, but I can't fully cleave to any except Warpaint. It's really too early to claim that I'll fully cleave to FTE, but I'm giving it a shot...it's got the melodicism and drive of the best of Touch, and the solid songwriting, depth, and rich, heavy flavor of Solace. My favorite track at the moment is a sweet number called "Mary" (no relation to one of my favorite Tori's, "Mary"), though I also like "Good Enough," "Elsewhere," and the utterly delectable and adorable "Ice Cream." She's really a cutie when she wants to be. So, yeah, it's heartily recommended if you liked the first two at all. And woj...what I meant about drums is that I miss the big prolific drum sound she had on Solace. I loved the fact that she writes such powerful but somehow sweet songs, and has this huge drumfest going on behind her. Making the machine do it on so many songs is a bit disappointing...which is not to say there aren't good percussion things happening there, but to say that it's not as pervasive as it used to be. No matter...on to Ecstasy! Drewcifer -- ---- Andrew D. Simchik, as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu, Tree of Schnopia \ ---- Drewcifer says "?" {The Twist says "!"} \\bi/ "D'fer and the Twist, they're D'fer and the Twist," \/ "One is a nice guy--the other's just pissed..." ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 09:43:41 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: Happy...Jane.. On Sun, 16 Jan 1994 freeform@aol.com wrote: > I've been reading all the posts lately about Jane Siberry. I've been a fan > of hers since 1985 or so when I saw the video for "One More Colour" on MTV > (!) I agree with the others who have said that her albums can take awhile > to get into. I had a hard time getting used to her latest album, but it > finally 'clicked' with me and I think it's great. Does Jane have a video > collection available? How many videos has she made, anybody know? I've > only seen "One More Colour" and "Ingrid and the Footman". Charles, I'm almost positive Jane does not have a video collection available anywhere. I would kill for it if she did. She has produced a couple of video that she sells through Sibline, her information network. They are _The bird and the gravel_ a video she directed, and a short collection done for her WIWAB album. It includes videos for _An angel stepped down_ and _Sail across the water_ as well as a couple of shorts for some of her other songs. The Sibline address is included on the WIWAB album. (If you need it, let me know and I'll send it to you. I don't have it with me right now.) As for other videos, I have seen _One more colour_, _Map of the world (part II)_ (a live concert vid), _Ingrid & the footman_, _The life is the red wagon_ and _Everything reminds me of my dog_. I do know that she has done several other videos that were used in Canada, but not showed in the U.S. (For instance, _The walking (and constantly)_ which must be wonderful.) Maybe someday we'll see them all! Enjoy Jane! Michael ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 07:48:14 +0700 From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Quakes, Nilsson, music Greetings, Just some random odds and ends to clear off my mental shelf ... First, my condolences and prayers for everyone in the Los Angeles area. I hope that no Ectophiles suffered any serious losses in the quake. For five years, I lived within a few miles of the epicenter (Canoga Park, for any locals), and the place names in the news reports have brought me an odd mix of sadness, concern, nostalgia, uselessness, and pain. I've driven over the collapsed freeways. I've taken classes at devastated Cal State Northridge. I've shopped at the collapsed shopping malls. Every place mentioned I knew well. It's a very odd feeling, and I went through the similar heart-rending feelings with the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake, though that one was worse, since I had many more friends there than in the San Fernando Valley. This story even had a local twist, as the Cal State Northridge basketball team played the Univ of Colorado here. During the pregame show, basketball was barely talked about. The CSUN coach's wife and kids were trapped in their apartment. One of the CSUN players knew his apartment had been destroyed. Another had not her from his mother. Etc. Etc. To their credit, the Boulder fans gave the CSUN a long warm ovation, and to their credit, the Matadors played an excellent game before losing 100-85. Finally, if any LA Ectophiles have managed to log on, hang in there! My heart, thoughts, and prayers are with you. Second, I mourn the passing of Harry Nilsson, one of the stranger artists to grace music in the Seventies. Though not Ecto-fodder, he has been in the pages of Ecto, and I even snuck him on the 1993 Happy Birthday Project tape. I've been a fan of his since I heard "Everybody's Talking" on the radio way too many years ago :) (1969?) and a huge fan since I first heard _Nilsson Schmillson_ a couple years later. Another one bites the dust. :( Third, a mild piece of guilt for the several groups promising to add a sampler tape for the tape dubbing project. We're all waiting! :) Seriously, I just want to let everyone know that I've finally dug out from under the aftershocks of the Happy Gift Project. Everyone probably should have their copies by now. The tape dubbing project is currently idle, open for new orders and new tapes! If you need any information, just ask! Fourth, I have meant to mention my supermarket (King Soopers) before, admittedly an odd subject even for Ecto, but it's always slipped my mind. They have the best in-store music tapes I've encountered outside a record store. I was once again reminded of this Monday, when I heard "Wild Horses" by the Sundays. When I first moved here, they had the usual Musak piped over the sound system, whose only challenge was trying to figure out what song had been melted to a nearly unrecognizable lump by saccharine strings. Yet about a year ago, they switched to a soft rock/pop mode. It really first caught my attention by playing "These Eyes" by the Guess Who and "These Are Days" by 10,000 Maniacs (two songs I love) _back-to-back_! You probably can't find any radio station that would do that these days. Other Ecto-fodder I've heard is "Linger" by the Cranberries (which I still love in spite of hearing a dozen times). It's fun to go shopping there, though I hope people don't mind my singing along under my breath. :) Fifth, for record store in-store music, the Fort Collins prize goes to the Sound Warehouse (a big national chain) which I've caught playing _Hounds of Love_ by some obscure artist [ :) ], and _The Visit_ by Loreena McKennitt. Walking into a store and unexpectedly hearing "All Souls Night" is an life-changing experience! The Sound Warehouse has a decent selection of Ecto stuff, even passing the tough Happy Rhodes test (usually two copies of _RhodeSongs_). Just on Saturday I picked up _Happy Come Home_ by Victoria Williams and _Sleeper_ by Tribe. Yet ABCD's (All the Best Compact Discs), a much smaller store, has the best selection of alternative music, though it does fail the Happy Rhodes test. Still my last trip there netted Danielle Dax, Single Gun Theory, the Innocence Mission, and Over the Rhine. Yet The Finest Records and Tapes has the best used CD selection (with prices as low as 99c!), where I've fished out quite a bit of obscure Ecto fodder. In my last visit, I hauled in Wendy MaHarry, Pamela Golden, Arson Garden, Single Gun Theory, and Ingrid Karklins for a total of $21 (including tax). I keep forgetting to administer the Happy Rhodes test, since they have the most expensive new CD's in town. Sixth, there is no rule six. :) Seventh, I don't listen to the radio much anymore, but Denver has two commercial alternative radio stations. (Yes, that is "two", "commercial", and "alternative" all in the same sentence. :) ) Actually, of the public radio stations that I know about, only KCSU plays any alternative music, and they only after my bedtime. :) ). KTCL (actually based in the Fort) plays the harder-edged stuff. They play a full slate of Ecto-fodder, including KaTe (They are current playing "The Red Shoes" (the song) a lot), Jane Siberry, Suzanne Vega, the Cranberries, the Sundays, 10,000 Maniacs, the Cocteau Twins, Concrete Blonde, Sarah McLachlin, Danielle Dax, and lots of others, all to varying degrees. KBCO holds the softer end of the alternative scene, which I've barely listened to, but I've heard they also play a good variety of Ecto fodder. Melissa Etheridge even got herself in lots of hot water by breaking the boycott (and her own word) to attend and give a private concert to an alternative music industry pow-wow which was held in Boulder, thanks to KBCO's success. Eighth, Denver is still a "flyover stop" on most concert tours. The artists may stop to look out the airplane window as they fly over. :) Still it's gotten better. Of Ecto artists, Loreena McKennitt, the Story, 10,000 Maniacs, and Shawn Colvin played concerts in the Denver area in 1993. (Concrete Blonde is coming in a week or so). Unfortunately, I don't think I forgot anyone else. That is still three or four more than a couple of years ago. By the way, I saw two of those concerts (10,000 Maniacs (in Red Rocks! Wonderful!) and Loreena McKennitt). Ninth, I just thought I'd give you a little taste of the music scene in Fort Collins. In short, if you dig, you can find things. Fortunately, I love to dig, especially through record stores. It makes the discoveries that much more fun. Doug Burks _O_ @>->--- dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 08:00:23 +0700 From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: 1993 Happy Gift Project -- reprise Greetings, Just some random odds and ends to clear off my mental shelf ... First, my condolences and prayers for everyone in the Los Angeles area. I hope that no Ectophiles suffered any serious losses in the quake. For five years, I lived within a few miles of the epicenter (Canoga Park, for any locals), and the place names in the news reports have brought me an odd mix of sadness, concern, nostalgia, uselessness, and pain. I've driven over the collapsed freeways. I've taken classes at devastated Cal State Northridge. I've shopped at the collapsed shopping malls. Every place mentioned I knew well. It's a very odd feeling, and I went through the similar heart-rending feelings with the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake, though that one was worse, since I had many more friends there than in the San Fernando Valley. This story even had a local twist, as the Cal State Northridge basketball team played the Univ of Colorado here. During the pregame show, basketball was barely talked about. The CSUN coach's wife and kids were trapped in their apartment. One of the CSUN players knew his apartment had been destroyed. Another had not her from his mother. Etc. Etc. To their credit, the Boulder fans gave the CSUN a long warm ovation, and to their credit, the Matadors played an excellent game before losing 100-85. Finally, if any LA Ectophiles have managed to log on, hang in there! My heart, thoughts, and prayers are with you. Second, I mourn the passing of Harry Nilsson, one of the stranger artists to grace music in the Seventies. Though not Ecto-fodder, he has been in the pages of Ecto, and I even snuck him on the 1993 Happy Birthday Project tape. I've been a fan of his since I heard "Everybody's Talking" on the radio way too many years ago :) (1969?) and a huge fan since I first heard _Nilsson Schmillson_ a couple years later. Another one bites the dust. :( Third, a mild piece of guilt for the several groups promising to add a sampler tape for the tape dubbing project. We're all waiting! :) Seriously, I just want to let everyone know that I've finally dug out from under the aftershocks of the Happy Gift Project. Everyone probably should have their copies by now. The tape dubbing project is currently idle, open for new orders and new tapes! If you need any information, just ask! Fourth, I have meant to mention my supermarket (King Soopers) before, admittedly an odd subject even for Ecto, but it's always slipped my mind. They have the best in-store music tapes I've encountered outside a record store. I was once again reminded of this Monday, when I heard "Wild Horses" by the Sundays. When I first moved here, they had the usual Musak piped over the sound system, whose only challenge was trying to figure out what song had been melted to a nearly unrecognizable lump by saccharine strings. Yet about a year ago, they switched to a soft rock/pop mode. It really first caught my attention by playing "These Eyes" by the Guess Who and "These Are Days" by 10,000 Maniacs (two songs I love) _back-to-back_! You probably can't find any radio station that would do that these days. Other Ecto-fodder I've heard is "Linger" by the Cranberries (which I still love in spite of hearing a dozen times). It's fun to go shopping there, though I hope people don't mind my singing along under my breath. :) Fifth, for record store in-store music, the Fort Collins prize goes to the Sound Warehouse (a big national chain) which I've caught playing _Hounds of Love_ by some obscure artist [ :) ], and _The Visit_ by Loreena McKennitt. Walking into a store and unexpectedly hearing "All Souls Night" is an life-changing experience! The Sound Warehouse has a decent selection of Ecto stuff, even passing the tough Happy Rhodes test (usually two copies of _RhodeSongs_). Just on Saturday I picked up _Happy Come Home_ by Victoria Williams and _Sleeper_ by Tribe. Yet ABCD's (All the Best Compact Discs), a much smaller store, has the best selection of alternative music, though it does fail the Happy Rhodes test. Still my last trip there netted Danielle Dax, Single Gun Theory, the Innocence Mission, and Over the Rhine. Yet The Finest Records and Tapes has the best used CD selection (with prices as low as 99c!), where I've fished out quite a bit of obscure Ecto fodder. In my last visit, I hauled in Wendy MaHarry, Pamela Golden, Arson Garden, Single Gun Theory, and Ingrid Karklins for a total of $21 (including tax). I keep forgetting to administer the Happy Rhodes test, since they have the most expensive new CD's in town. Sixth, there is no rule six. :) Seventh, I don't listen to the radio much anymore, but Denver has two commercial alternative radio stations. (Yes, that is "two", "commercial", and "alternative" all in the same sentence. :) ) Actually, of the public radio stations that I know about, only KCSU plays any alternative music, and they only after my bedtime. :) ). KTCL (actually based in the Fort) plays the harder-edged stuff. They play a full slate of Ecto-fodder, including KaTe (They are current playing "The Red Shoes" (the song) a lot), Jane Siberry, Suzanne Vega, the Cranberries, the Sundays, 10,000 Maniacs, the Cocteau Twins, Concrete Blonde, Sarah McLachlin, Danielle Dax, and lots of others, all to varying degrees. KBCO holds the softer end of the alternative scene, which I've barely listened to, but I've heard they also play a good variety of Ecto fodder. Melissa Etheridge even got herself in lots of hot water by breaking the boycott (and her own word) to attend and give a private concert to an alternative music industry pow-wow which was held in Boulder, thanks to KBCO's success. Eighth, Denver is still a "flyover stop" on most concert tours. The artists may stop to look out the airplane window as they fly over. :) Still it's gotten better. Of Ecto artists, Loreena McKennitt, the Story, 10,000 Maniacs, and Shawn Colvin played concerts in the Denver area in 1993. (Concrete Blonde is coming in a week or so). Unfortunately, I don't think I forgot anyone else. That is still three or four more than a couple of years ago. By the way, I saw two of those concerts (10,000 Maniacs (in Red Rocks! Wonderful!) and Loreena McKennitt). Ninth, I just thought I'd give you a little taste of the music scene in Fort Collins. In short, if you dig, you can find things. Fortunately, I love to dig, especially through record stores. It makes the discoveries that much more fun. Doug Burks _O_ @>->--- dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 09:51:06 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: Question for Jane fans On Mon, 17 Jan 1994, WretchAwry wrote: > Did anyone, *anyone* see "The Walking" tour? If you did, and you know > who her backup singers were, please tell me. I'm not certain that they > were Rebecca Jenkins and Gina S(sp?), who were with her on earlier > tours. One in particular is a *powerhouse* and I don't think it's > either Rebecca or Gina. I was fortunate enough to see that tour! You're correct, there was another vocalist for that tour. All I can remember right now about the other vocalist was that her first name was also Rebecca. I do have the name at home and if you still need it, I'll send it to you. Let me know. Further, I do recall quite clearly that Rebecca Jenkins was there, but I can't really be sure whether Gina was there or not. As I said, I should have all this info at home and will get back to you. > The reason I ask is that I've gotten a tape (audience recording boot) > of the show. This was recorded April 27, 1988 at Chapel Chatham College > in Pittsburg, PA. I don't know if the tape is complete. Here's the list: I am incredibly jealous!!! > Vladimir-Vladimir This song was so incredibly done live! > The Walking (and constantly) My all-time favorite Jane song. (Although _At the beginning of time_ is moving up in the ranks!) > Red High Heels Another rapturous song, especially in concert! > The White Tent The Raft > The Bird In The Gravel > > Looks like Bird...was the encore, though it wasn't the entire thing, since > parts of it were sung earlier in the medleys. And, as always, she concluded with _The taxi ride_) > We didn't see this tour I'm sorry. > I know that Jane fans would just die for this (I did) but I really can't > take requests for dubs. If it's ok with Doug, I can send him various > Jane things I've recently aquired, but I don't want to weigh him down > with a single artist (Happy & various compilations are one thing, making > him the Jane Siberry dub center of the universe is quite another.) Vickie, please let me know if Doug (or anyone) takes on this task! I am especially dying for the Choral Christmas!! I will help out or pay in any way I can, unfortunately, my dubbing situation is sub-par. Anyway, thanks for being in a 'Jane mood.' I'm always in a Jane mood and love reading, talking about her. > "Something's gonna happen" JS It certainly is! Thanks again, (and remember, PLEASE let me know about the status of possible dubbing of the aforementioned.) Michael ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 15:18:09 GMT From: imy@wcl-rs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Young) Subject: Sarah, Jane Sarah: Is it just me, or is one of the guitars on _Path of Thorns_ from Solace grossly, *horribly*, mistuned? Something about it really gets on my nerves. Someone assure me I'm not hearing things that aren't there (and that they *aren't* there on FTE!) Jane: I remember pretty clearly the first time I heard Jane; it was on the radio (a Saturday, Richard Skinner was the D.J., I think) and it was La Jalouse. I have to say, it hit me pretty much immediately. So my first exposure was Bound by the Beauty; I found (find) it immediately accessible, funny, deep, singable, and generally wonderful. I was impressed, and somehow got talking with some people on a JANET bulletin board thingy (Unaxcess r.i.p) about Jane, and the consensus was (yes, more than one person had heard of her!) if you think that's good, get The Walking, you'll be blown away. I did and I was. I have to say, I think No Borders Here (and maybe to some extent, The Speckless Sky) has aged less gracefully than the others. The first album still sounds amazingly fresh; perhaps just because of the relative simplicity of the arrangements. So has anyone changed their minds about Sweet Incarnadine? i.e. gone from hating it to loving it, or vicky verky? Wossnames, Ian. ======================================================================== Subject: The Dark/Young Snakes this Saturday! Date: Tue, 18 Jan 94 10:29:58 -0500 From: lcliffor@bbn.com I just heard this a.m. that The Dark (an old local Boston band whom I've touted here before) is having a reunion this Saturday at the Paradise. Of more Ectoian interest, their back-up band was listed as the Young Snakes which was Aimee Mann's old Berkeley band. IMHO, the Young Snakes were better than Til Tuesday. As Aimee was quite the Dark fan, I expect it really will be them. I've got my tickets!! A third back-up is Eve's Plum. Sounds like a really fun show. Laura ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 11:13:52 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: Jane On Tue, 18 Jan 1994, Ian Young wrote: > So has anyone changed their minds about Sweet Incarnadine? i.e. gone > from hating it to loving it, or vicky verky? I think that if Sweet Incarnadine was about 2 minutes shorter, it would be glorious. Thought I'd toss in my Jane indoctrination story. I, of course, heard _Mimi on the beach_ played on my local, alternative station and thought it was fairly good. On the strength of that song I picked up No borders here. I wasn't all that impressed, although I liked it enough. (I too was turned off by the opening song, _Waitress_) I sort of forgot about Jane until a year or so later. I was managing a record store and I received a call from a label rep from Duke Street Records. She asked whether I had ever heard Jane, to which I replied yes. After chatting a bit, she offerred to send me Jane's new album, The Speckless sky, as well as two complementary passes to her show, which was to be stopping in Boston soon. I said, thank you, I'd love it! Well, I went to the show with my fellow Kate Bush devotee, Becki, and as we left the show, I was heard to say, "Well, if I never get to see Kate Bush, at least I saw Jane Siberry." I was blown away. To this day, Jane's concert in support of The Speckless Sky, at the Paradise in Boston, is my favorite concert. I've been hooked every since. I must confess to a slight disap- pointment with Bound by the beauty. Now, this is not because I don't think Beauty is a superb album, it is. But following on the heels of my fave Jane album, The Walking, I had to be disappointed. With When I was a boy (as well as Jane's first eponymous album) I can say that each and every Jane album is a blessing upon my life. (Actually, with the release of When I was a boy, Jane has become my favorite artist - over Kate. Sorry.) Michael ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 16:28:34 +0000 From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk (Steve Fagg's Mac) Subject: Re: Sarah, Jane The subject always makes me think of Elizabeth Sladen :-) but anyway... At 3:18 pm 18/1/94 +0000, Ian Young wrote: >Jane: The first >album still sounds amazingly fresh; perhaps just because of the >relative simplicity of the arrangements. I agree very strongly with this. It's surprising how well the first album still stands up. Admittedly I came to it only relatively recently when it was released on CD (thanks Neile!) but I do think the songs are strong and the arrangements appropriate if (as you say) much simpler than we've latterly become used to in her work. Does anybody know if she does any of the songs from the first album live with a band when on tour? I think that would be pretty interesting. -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** New .sig quote currently under construction. *** ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 94 13:00:06 PST From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) Subject: Ectofete pt.1 Hi, Sorry to bug the whole list with SF ecto-gathering plans, but it's the easiest way to make sure everybody gets this info. It seems that Wednesday night is good for most people. Now we have to set a time and a meeting spot. How about 7pm at the Embarcadero BART station? Of course, we don't have the OK from Jessica, but I am hoping we will hear from her soon (Greg, do you know where she can be reached?). Please RSVP if you're coming so we know how many people to expect. Also, should we make reservations at Chevy's? (Emily? Dave?) I will be wearing my ecto T-shirt (blue with the Ecto cover and Happy Rhodes written beneath it) under a black leather jacket, or holding it if the weather is cold. Hope to hear from ya, Angelos ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 13:47:40 -0800 (PST) From: Neile Graham Subject: Sarah, Jane Why, oh why do I always think of more things to do? Anyway, I have yet another idea. I plan to contact Sibline and get Jane's new videos, but Jim and I are also the proud possessor's of the TVOntario special on Jane from about 1988. _The Speckless Sky_ was out, and she was just beginning to work on _The Walking_. We also have a number of her videos from that era: "The Speckless Sky" (not the cow version, rats), "Ingrid and the Footman," "The Walking," and a couple of others I can't remember just now. If I started a tape with this stuff, would someone volunteer to fill it with other Jane stuff and we could make a video tape tree? I don't want to compete with stuff that Jane has commercially available, but the TV program certainly isn't available. We were just lucky enough to be living in Ontario when it was showing. We have two Dalbello videos on the same tape (for "I'm gonna Get Close to You" and "Tango"). I've been a Jane fan since I heard _No Borders Here_ at a friend's and immediately had to special order it. I've always liked the album, and always thought "Waitress" was a lot of fun. That whole album is fun. The only album of Jane's I haven't obsessed over is _Bound By The Beauty_ though that might be more how hectic life was when we first got the disc. I can hardly wait to hear Jane live, even if it isn't a concert concert. As for Sarah--I never really like her all that much until I heard her live when she was touring for _Solace_. For some reason her music really clicked for me then and I became an instant fan. The live album didn't capture that experience for me at all, so I'm really looking forward to hearing her _Fumbling Towards Ecstasy_ tour. We also were lucky enough to hear her do a Christmas show here in 1992--we heard early acoustic versions of "Possesion" and another new song which I didn't write the name down to and now don't remember which song it was and a couple of the older ones. That was really wonderful. But still _When I was a Boy_ is more essential for me that _Fumbling Towards Ecstasy_. I always have the problem with Sarah's albums that the songs don't differentiate themselves enough for me. The two songs that are really in my head from the latter album are "Possession" of course and "Ice Cream," which I like a lot. I think it's way more than a fluff piece. Anyone have any Sarah videos to add to that tape tree or to start another? --Neile neile@u.washington.edu ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)