Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #969 ecto, Number 969 Sunday, 16 January 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* space doggie dog -- whence? Philia Eeep san francisco, party, me? ecto party in S.F? pearls and swine Re: X-tian Gaffa Teaching as a grinderversive activity :-) Henry Frayne from M7X Re: ecto #958 Still in Jane land Intro ! Today's your birthday friend.... Subs and other regional phrases Hey Bday! Re: synchronicity Re: Gaffa ======================================================================== Date: 14 Jan 94 15:17:46 EST From: Mike Mendelson Subject: space doggie dog -- whence? Anthony Horangues in his Subject: |Space Doggie Dog. Woof. Hey, did you just make that up or does it have some relevance or source? I gots to know. -mjm ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 Jan 94 13:11:27 PST From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) Subject: Philia Hi, Hmm, it seems like knowledge of the greek language can be handy to answer ecto-questions :) Neile wrote: >Anyone know Latin? How does one pronounce "_philia"? Latin? Tsk tsk. Philos (phil-os and not feel-os) in greek means friend. Philia means friendship, so -philia means the tendency to like -. So no kinky sexual preferences are implied, Mitch :) Also, regarding the IXTHYS that D^2 mentioned, it rings a (faint) bell. His transcription of it was fairly accurate. I would guess that it stands for Iisous Xristos THeou YioS (meaning Jesus Christ, Son of God). Sorry if these issues have been resolved but I am still hopelessly behind. Angelos PS. Northern Ca ecto-party? Is this in the works or should I offer to host it? Is anybody interested? ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 Jan 94 13:13:47 PST From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) Subject: Eeep I forgot to ask two things that I wanted to ask. So here goes: a) Is there anything wrong with gaffa? I haven't seen any new articles since Tuesday. b) Has the new Tori single been released? I looked for it three days in a row and couldn't find it. I *think* that's it, for now. Angelos ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 Jan 94 16:18:38 EST From: jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu (jessica) Subject: san francisco, party, me? Hiya - I will be in san francisco all next week (for Usenix). if there's going to be an ecto party out there, is there any chance of having it next week, perhaps on wednesday evening maybe? regardless of a party or not, i'd love to get together with any ectophiles in the area (angelos!?). i won't be certain of my schedule 'til I get there.. but i'll have net access from there so i'll be on-line, we can e-mail for planning once i'm there, though feel free to respond to me now if you think you'll be available to get together! jessica ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 Jan 94 16:42:51 EST From: jessica Subject: ecto party in S.F? Hello, it looks like wednesday and thursday evenings are the only evenings i'll be available - monday night there's a bof i'll be attending and tuesday night is the conference reception, and i'll be leaving S.F. friday evening. Can we possibly arrange an ectophile gathering wednesday or thursday evening? If not, i'm defintiely stil interested in getting together with as many people as are interested ;) jessica || falafel, || It is this || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || falafel, || that brings || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || falafel, || us together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || ||BaBaGanough|| --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 Jan 94 13:49:19 -0800 From: Michael G Peskura Subject: pearls and swine Robert digresses: > a case of throwing Pearls before Swine (anybody remember that band? They > were on the ESP label, along with the Fugs.)(ESP liner notes were in > Esperanto.)(But I digress.) Of course i remember Mr Tom Rapp and his band. I believe he was still in high school when the first Pearls Before Swine disc appeared on ESP-disk. I loved those albums; so it pleases me no end to note that some of them are being reissued on CD by a German label. Check your record shops. ----- Michael Peskura -- University of Washington -- Seattle USA ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 Jan 1994 15:01:32 +0700 From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Re: X-tian Greetings, [I know I'm jumping in late here, but why not? :) ] The origin of Christian use of the fish symbol is irrefuteable. It was used in the very early days of the Christian church when heavy Roman persecution forced the church literally underground -- into the catacombs under many Roman cities. The signs leading to and the exact location of the underground church were marked by a fish, an innocuous symbol. As mentioned, the fish was chosen, since it was a Greek anagram for "Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior". Take the first letters of this phrase in Greek, string it together, and you get the Greek word for "fish". The invention was especially useful, since fish and fishing figured so prominently in Jesus' ministry. The origin of the abbreviations "Xian" and "Xmas" are much more debateable, and I've heard many different stories. The most common is that it was invented by non-believers, who did not want to use the name "Christ" under any conditions, and replaced it with an "X", (chosen since it is the letter most commonly used as a place-marker in English abbreviations). The use of this abbreviation even preceded these days of culturally neutral celebrations. I'll refrain from any other comment, except to note that I did not see in the mass media even one mention of the real reason for celebrating Christmas. *sigh* Doug Burks _O_ @>->--- dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 Jan 94 17:18:50 CST From: johnh@astro.as.utexas.edu (John Higdon) Subject: Gaffa kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) >I forgot to ask two things that I wanted to ask. So here goes: >a) Is there anything wrong with gaffa? I haven't seen any new articles >since Tuesday. I haven't seen any real activity in the newsgroup either. Just last night I posted a message that was partly to this subject, and I have not seen it appear yet. This silence is a source of consternation: just before it went "off air" I had posted a message, something which I really rarely do. That message was the last thing that I saw on Gaffa. >b) Has the new Tori single been released? I looked for it three days in >a row and couldn't find it. I haven't yet seen the single in the stores, though I did manage to hear "God" on the radio a few days ago. :^) >I *think* that's it, for now. >Angelos John H. p.s. I'm still just learning vi, so if this comes out looking like crap.... ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 Jan 1994 15:49:52 CST From: Subject: Teaching as a grinderversive activity :-) Letters, calls, complaints and great thoughts from readers: Chris Sampson: >As for the ongoing latin lesson, > > I've heard the words pronounced: > >Curriculum Vitae (cuRRICulum VItee) I think its actually VEE-teye (as in Eye St. NW in the Seat of Government and Humidity :-) ). Everyone I've ever known in academe, however, has simply called it a vita (as in "La Dolce"). > >Bona Fide (BOna FEEday) In English, however, it's pronounced fEYEd (as in green tomatoes, almost). > >Semper Fi (semper FYE...fie on't fie! Frailty! Thy name is woman!...er, >excuse the politically incorrect Shakespeare episode.....) I recall Ollie North using that one a lot, but it's definitely anglicized. Aeren: >And the Klaatu barada nikto line ended up in "Toys", too, in the final >battle scene. And "Gort! Meringa!" never ended up anywhere. Go figure :-). Uli: >[...] Can someone tell me why it is classified as 'free >from 12 years of age'? [...] You've actually lucked out, IMHO WIVH. Most of the 12 years of age I have known have been the kind of people I was ecstatic to finally be free from :-). Meredith: >"hangin' with the raisin girls" She hasn't traveled to Fresno lately, has she? In 1987, a colleague took a job in that town, and jokingly predicted she'd probably turn into a raisin (the major cash crop of the local economy). When I next saw her, a few annual meetings later, she had fortunately managed to avoid that fate; but one should never assume _a priori_ that everyone will be as lucky :-). Philip: >and I am dying to know what "Sleepytime Tea" is!!!!! If you're thinking what I am, it's a caffeineless herbal tea that Celestial Seasonings puts out. Those are all the details I remember. >Finally, for years at least one possum would hang about under my bedroom >window at night practising obscene phone calls... scared hell out of me >the first time I heard it :) The other night, the 10 PM news had a squib on the baby wombat at the zoo, which has just emerged de novo from wherever they hide during their perinatal period. Need we now worry about x-rated talk from one more furry critter in this town? :-) Which reminds me of the cartoon that came out when the National Zoo tried to breed pandas. A panda was shown talking into a phone outside the gates of that facility, and the caption was "Hello? Jack Anderson? I'm a Federal worker being forced to engage in unnatural acts against my will." :-) Neal: >Perhaps an Oven Grinder is like an Organ Grinder. Chefs cranking up >the oven while a monkey hops around begging for change. WHat sort of >entertainment do they have in the resteraunt. The only time I've ever resolved to check them out, I found out that they didn't take plastic, there was no ATM in easy reach, and I didn't already have adequate cash at that moment. I therefore went a couple blocks down Clark street to R.J. Grunts instead. If that's really the kind of entertainment they have there, the cash-only policy begins to make sense, however. A lower primate who's bent out of shape over your inability to pay him cash on the barrelhead can be one to be reckoned with :-) SPeaking of entertainment in Chicago (sort of), last night I saw Blink, which is filmed in Chicago and prominantly features a band calle The Drovers, which I was led to believe was a Chicago band. It's quite a The Drovers are indeed a Chicago band, and a good one to boot. They're kind of Celtic-influenced adult alternative. One of those whom I'm dubbing the Kate interview for will be getting my Drovers album on the flip side. I'm working on the other dub requests. The drovers are on an indie label, which is easy to get at Tower on Clark. Erik: > Actually, there was a Chicago-style oven grinder shop down in Champaign/Urbana, where I received *my* degree. At this place, the grinder was similar to a sub, but the meat and cheese were placed on the bread, and that stage was baked like a pizza. Then the lettuce/tomato/etc. were added, and the result was served & eaten like a sub. I've never seen them out here, more's the pity. > Not in that exact form, maybe, but years ago McDonalds stole the concept of keeping the lettuce/tomato/etc. isolated from the cooked meat until the last possible moment, and mass marketed it as the McDLT. I haven't seen them out here since at least 1986, more's the serendipity :-). Bob: >[...]Then again it might be >a case of throwing Pearls before Swine (anybody remember that band? They I heard of them back then, but I never actually heard them. I did come to the conclusion once that PbS would be the ideal name for some restaurant of the R.J. Grunts stripe to call a pork entree with an oyster appetizer thrown into the package deal. That and Madeira, M'Deer as their sobriquet for venison au vin :-). (Apologia to Flanders and Swann for the last atrocious pun.) >were on the ESP label, along with the Fugs.)(ESP liner notes were in Another act I never had the foresight to buy on vinyl back in the 60s, when I was about 15 years old and more into other musical genres :-). (A few years ago I ran across a solo album by Tuli Kupferberg, but it can't have been quite the same.) >Esperanto.)(But I digress.) One day in 1966, I ran across a book on Esperanto in the neighborhood public library, and took a stab at learning the language before getting distracted to other things. Would that I'd known it could have such practical value :-). > Well, guess I'll go listen to my latest bootleg, a fantasy duet > between Prince and Donna Summer entitled "N2O U Baby!"... Damned if I know why that reminds me of the occasion in grad school, when an officemate reported having dreamt of an argument between Karl Marx and Max Weber in German, which she didn't even speak. John Higdon: >Yesterday, I subscribed to ecto. Get used to me; I'm going to be a part of your life :-) :-) :-('. > [...] I did not instantly fall in love with the music; I have found >that the best music takes time to acclimate to. The same can be said for wry if incoherent essays in these pages :-). Steve Lamb: >- Insert funny line from KOR here. When I think of one, I'll do the same - What's KOR? I'm usually pretty good with funny lines, but it never hurts to have a backstop :-). Ken: >Toasting makes the difference between an okay italian sub and a great italian >grinder! > >On to the natural followup: milkshakes, frappes, cabinets, AwfulAwful(tm), >whathaveyou? >I always hate ordering and not ending up with a drink made with ice cream... In a way, this makes it functional to have R.J. Grunts a block away from Chicago Pizza and Oven Grinder. Grunts, at least, has plenty of drinks made with ice cream on the menu. Now if the two eateries could only merge without bringing antitrust considerations into play... :-) Laura: >Someone correct me if I'm mistaken, but technically, isn't a grinder >a sub which is baked in the oven? In other words, the bread is slightly >toasted and the contents heated? Asked and answered :-). But apparently no less on the money, based on all I've read on the topic in these pages today. Sue: >[...] sneezing....was a common symptom of those close to death.' No wonder I tend to feel so lousy when my occasional reactions to cat dander (which can be plentiful when you have two cats at home) reach their peak intensity :-). Angelos: >Philia means friendship, so -philia means the tendency to like -. >So no kinky sexual preferences are implied, Mitch :) Not in the original Greek, anyway. Gives one pause to think how much of the English language has been hijacked by sexologists beneath our noses :-). While entering information in my new 1994 calendar book last week, I noticed that it carried a notation that in Japan, at least, tomorrow is Adults' Day. So if it's supposed to be too cold to go out tomorrow where you are, as it is where I am, you can keep the spirit of the day by laying in a supply of adult books, adult mags, adult films and videos, adult toys and, of course, adult beverages :-). Wish I could remember where I put my copy of The Pursuit of Happiness' first album, which has "I'm An Adult Now." I think I know where I put my copy of Adult Net's first album, but as I recall it wasn't very good. Happy birthday to the Today Show. And, of course, Happy King Day to all. Mitch ------------------------------ "...I was a good kid once, and now I've got a thirty-seven inch waist and a couple of kids who think it's funny to punch me in it. [....] Signed, GOOD ADULT" --Mike Royko, vintage early 1960s ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 Jan 94 16:23:32 PST From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: Henry Frayne from M7X Recently Em gave me the email address of Henry Frayne, the lead guitarist for The Moon Seven Times: frayneh@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu. You can write him there if you want to get on their snail mail list. So I wrote him yesterday, gave my address, gave him some feedback about the album (I said that it sounded a lot like Michael Brook; even the album graphics looked similar to those from "Cobalt Blue"), and asked, "Ever listen to Happy Rhodes?" Today, this was in my mailbox: > To: David Dixon > In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 13 Jan 94 17:01:56 PST > Status: RO > > dear dave, > > michael brook wishes i was coping his style! just kidding. i'm not all that > into his stuff. and from what i heard he wasn't much into ours. i did like the > live cd a bit. > > i should give happy rhodes another listen. i'll get your newsletter out today. > > take care, > > henry > Pretty cool, eh? I told him about ecto, and gave him the email address. D^2 ======================================================================== Subject: Re: ecto #958 From: revvie@qedbbs.com (Rod Bourland) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 94 14:53:28 PST Why can't I ever seem to get mail to you for inclusion in this digest? It is always being returned. I will try one more time. I have been trying to tell a very true story about how being on the IRC in the #ECTO channel with Fili and Dreaming and they very literally saved my life. But before I go into detail I want to make sure that this is getting out. Thanks Rod ------------------------------ revvie@qedbbs.com (Rod Bourland) or qed!revvie The QED BBS -- (310)420-9327 ======================================================================== From: "Bradley N. Hutchinson" Subject: Still in Jane land Date: Fri, 14 Jan 94 21:40:45 EST Hi all, Got the digests today and: br!an wrote: >Yinz hear 'bout the time I fell on the stairs when goin' >downcellar >to do my warsh? Man, was them stairs slippy!" Again, Central Pennsylvania and Northern WV sound very much alike! My grandmother could have said that!! I guess that since the only nearby "city" is Pittsburgh, I shouldn't be surprised. and Erik wrote: >Well, there's "Looking For A UFO" by Adrian Belew. Actually, >the message >is the same as "S.O.S." - we've screwed up this world enough >to need help. >Might be a little too bouncy, though. Adrian Belew never wrote anything a little too anything!! OK, maybe I've had too much coffee. . . . And then Troy wrote: > Old Jane Siberry albums - somehow, Windham Hill now owns High >Street >(?) >records; I saw the older Jane albums on the product >listing, there's >even >an 800- phone if anybody's interested. YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES. please. And two questions: How does one pronounce Jane Siberry's name? What other albums are available by her? take care, brad -- bhutchin@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 Jan 1994 20:52:32 -0600 From: flak@borcim.wustl.edu (Tod Flak) Subject: Intro ! Greetings and salutations all - I've been lurking about now for a few weeks, watching the goings-on (as much as I can keep up with). I decided it was finally time to stop being a complete voyeur and say howdy. I was evangelized to Happy's music a few months ago thanks to a new friend, Julianne Dunphy. Some of you may remember her - I know she's been on Ecto in the past, although not right now. She started graduate work here at Washington Univ. (St. Louis) last fall, and did lab work for the first semester in my lab - I am also a grad student, in microbiology (disgusting little bacteria, and such things) . She was enthused to find that I liked Kate, and soon introduced me to a whole slew of great music - early Kate stuff, Tori Amos, Heidi Berry, and of course Happy. I eventually ordered Vol I & II for myself, but still need to get some of the others - but Julianne has such a great selection of CD's that I can borrow at any time that I'm not in a huge rush. This list seems really great! Ju told me that it was _sooooo_ much more easy going than some of the Usenet groups (read -> Gaffa -- I checked out that a couple times, and was amazed at the various flaming threads!). I had even heard from her about Vickie (all wonderful things, of course!) long before I considered getting into the list. I've been pretty impressed by what I've seen so far - lots of considerate, caring people, it seems. My question for you all is how in the world do you keep up with all the messages! I am on another mail list which has a couple messages a day. The day after Jessica put me on the list, I was amazed to come in and see something like 'You have 50 new mail messages' !! I was a bit dumbstruck. I've finally gotten used to it, to some extent. But I find that I end up deleting lots of messages. The volume is one of the things that kept me from posting for so long - I've worried that if I entered the converations, I would somehow be 'obligated' to make an effort to keep up with everything going on in the list. Well, I know I can't do that; so if I ever post something that's obviously missing part of the current thread, it's prolly because I simply missed a few messages ! Just fill me in, I suppose. Looking forward to getting to know you all better - Tod BTW: 15 Mar 66, size 8.5 ======================================================================== From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Fri, 14 Jan 1994 00:01:05 Subject: Today's your birthday friend.... i*i*i*i*i*i *************** ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* *** Troy J.Shadbolt *** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Troy J. Shadbolt Thu January 14 1971 Capricorn Chris Sampson Wed January 15 1964 Void where prohibited Dennis G Parslow Fri January 17 1964 SDCN Ilka Heber Mon February 1 1965 Mermaid Bob Lovejoy Sun February 2 1947 Aquarius Diane Burke Sat February 2 1963 slow children Stephen Thomas Fri February 4 1966 Aquarius Doug Burks Tue February 14 1956 Blank -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.wupper.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 Jan 94 21:25:49 -0600 From: vnozick@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Valerie Nozick) Subject: Subs and other regional phrases Mitch said: > I have never heard them referred to in >this town as anything but subs, except that there's a restaurant on the north >side called the Chicago Pizza and Oven Grinder Co. Whether an oven grinder=a >grinder=a sub I don't know, inasmuch as I've never eaten there. It's also a >wild card where the oven enters into it, since I've never seen a sub marketed >on raw bread dough. Whether the bread is baked there with or without the cold >cuts inserted is, therefore, a mystery :-). Argh! This is the one thing that drives me crazy when I move somewhere new, learning all the different food language. The worst was moving to Conn. and not knowing what a grinder was. Just for the record, growing up in So. California, we simply called them sandwiches, and a submarine sandwich was a very specific sandwich made up of italian cold cuts. And we NEVER would toast the bread. 'Regular' coffee to me has always meant black. I drink 'coke' or a 'soda', and never played Ally Ally Oxenfree. Stuart Myerson said: >Then, everyone on Ecto began raving about _When I Was a Boy_. I was >thoroughly unimpressed. So, I went back to _TSS_. Suddenly, I loved it. >I don't know why. It just happened for no reason. I then went back to >_WIWAB_ and liked that too. I was finally hooked. A similar thing happened to me with Jane. I bought The Walking on the recommendation of gaffa (ecto didn't exist then :-( ), and was really disappointed by it on first listen. About 6 months later, I decided to give it a try, and was blown away. How could I not recognize genius? For the person who was wondering about which Jane album to start with, I would try any album but Bound By the Beauty. BBtB is her most commercially accessible album (as defined by US standards), but, IMHO, it is also her weakest and least interesting album. I did not bother buying this album until recently, when Turtle's in Atlanta was having one of their once-a-year-blow-out-sales (all CDs $9.99 US). So now the CD sits on my rack, and my conscience feels better for having a complete Jane collection. But I'm still not awed by this album. Bob Lovejoy said: >> The cover features this scrumptious picture of our red-haired goddess, with >> a window reflection in the foreground. She is wearing a white top and is >> facing the camera. To her front right are some testtubes and a flask, but >> these blend in with the window reflection. > >Same as the "Cornflake Girl" cover (it's black and white, right?) and the Not quite. This one is in beautiful color - red hair with blue background. He also added: >It can't be worse than her "Humpty Dumpty". Can it? Say it ain't so! WHAT? I love her version of Humpty Dumpty! At least she has some inflection in that song! HotR is just dull. Special thanks to Uli for posting the lyrics to Fumbling Towards Ecstasy! It will keep me happy until I can own my very own US copy. :P Could someone tell me if it's 'towards' or 'toward'? Thanks. yours in ectoness, valerie ============================================================================== Valerie Nozick vnozick@merle.acns.nwu.edu "Just being alive, it can really hurt. And these moments given are a gift from time." -- Kate Bush ============================================================================ == ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 Jan 94 23:12:32 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Hey Bday! HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Troy Shadbolt!! > time for Troy to babble some: > 4. Has anyone been following _Tales of the City_ on PBS? A friend asked me > tape it for him, and all I can say is that after reading the books (come > on, I was 5 when the serial was in the Chronicle) I have to admit that > If you want a production done right, you should send it to Channel Four > in England- they have class. I did, but I wish I'd been taping too because I missed part of the second night. I'm a lot older than you are Troy, but the world depicted in this series (San Francisco in the mid-1970s) is as alien to me as the Civil War series was. It's all fascinating though, and they sure sure did work to get all the little fiddly details right. > 5. Oh, just remembered, when I was in L.A. last week I heard ........... > Cohabitants on the Radio!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't remember the station though. > I was in shock, I nearly caused an accident on the Expresseway (like > anyone would have noticed). That's amazing! > 7. Troy gets to go to England, Troy gets to go to England. Well, at least > that's what the boss says, seems there's this meeting and I'm the only > one who isn't triple-booked for travel in March; so we'll see. Good luck on that Troy. *HUG* Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 Jan 94 23:19:17 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: synchronicity NewGuySteve wrote: > On Fri, 14 Jan 1994, WretchAwry wrote: > > Hi John, thank you for posting this! It always makes me feel great to know > > that I've, in whatever way, (dropped breadcrumbs to follow, pushed, shoved) > > led someone to Happy's music. Welcome to Ecto! > > So what did you do in my case exceot talk to be about Tori, made me > feel welcome in #ecto and got me to hang out there more than any other > channel lately? :P :-) Hi! Welcome to Ecto! It wasn't just me though, there are lots of other great people hanging around IRC, as you well know. We're all nice, there and here. > > I like seeing my name in print :-), though it certainly warms my heart!) > > Admit it, you love seeing your name plastered in the little lights of > our monitors. :) Ah, pshaw! It's good to have you here Steve, thanks for writing Vickie (Equipoise) ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 14 Jan 1994 22:45:11 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: Re: Gaffa johnh@astro.as.utexas.edu (John Higdon): > kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) ... > >a) Is there anything wrong with gaffa? I haven't seen any new articles > >since Tuesday. > > I haven't seen any real activity in the newsgroup either. Just last night I Ditto. The newsgroup is dead here. Is the mailing list down too, or is it the link from the list to the newsgroup? I just used gopher to access the usenet news at Michigan State, which is a big site, and it stops on Tuesday at the same place my local news server does. It looks like the newsgroup is dead. Is anyone on the mailing list receiving posts? Glad you sent mail there pointing out the problem. > yet. This silence is a source of consternation: just before it went > "off air" I had posted a message, something which I really rarely > do. That message was the last thing that I saw on Gaffa. I never saw it. The last one here was from Rick Pali. Incidentally, I happened to mtv.com via gopher and saw that they have a couple soungs or maybe bits of them under recording.studio/songs. One was "Tis Thing Nowhere" by Bettie Serveert and another was Juliana Hatfield 3. I can't listen to them myself (well, I have the Bettie Serveert CD). AlexGibbs arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu |\| | (~, |-| ~|~ |-| /-\ \/\/ |< "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." "Have you ever seen a picture of Jesus laughing? Mmm, do \ Why Should I you think He had a beautiful smile? A smile that healed." \ Love You? ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)