Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #961 ecto, Number 961 Friday, 14 January 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Ally Ally Oxenfree Free linguistic oxen Re: ecto #958 I am back Laurie cancels Re: Ally ally oxenfree Fumbling towards philology Still fumbling On dropping carbonic acid by any other name Re: Fumbling towards philology fumblephilia Sort of, like, maybe, kind of, you know, u---------h... socks on the breaks strange dream more cotton for threads.. italian bread bits'n'pieces ally (O)lly (O)lly Oxenfree ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 12:23:17 -0500 (EST) From: Sam Warren Subject: Re: Ally ally oxenfree Okay, getting off the topic of the original subject a bit, Br!an sounds off with: >Central Pennsylvania calls them "pops". They also have a weird >rendition of "y'all".. it's "you'ns", one syllable. Go figure. I spent some growing-up years in and around Harrisburg Pa., which is fairly Central. But we never called it "pop," always "soda." However, when we would visit my mother's family in West Virginia, *they* called it "pop". As to the "you'ns," let me just add that in Pittsburgh (where I went to college), they further distort the phrase to "yinz". But then, Pittsburgh has a language all its own. For example, "Yinz guys going upshtreet to Gy Nigle?" [trans: "Are you going shopping at Giant Eagle (a grocery store)?"]. Wherever the letters "s" and "t" appear together, an "h" is inserted between them (i.e. shtreet, shtrip, shtrength, shtole). The one exception that comes to mind is the word "steel," which is invariably pronounced "still". If I may, I'd like to expand this discussion to include "sneakers". A show of hands, please...how many of you knew the shoes you would wear to gym class as "sneakers," and how many knew them as "tennis shoes"? -Sam ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 14:22:57 -0500 (EST) From: Sam Warren Subject: Ally Ally Oxenfree Michael Bravo: >> - Ally Ally Oxenfree is just so great! :) >> Anyone volunteer to point out what it could mean, btw? Anthony Horan: >I'm curious about this too - even more so since last night's "Beverly Hills >90210". (Not that I watch it. It was, err, on in the background. Really.) >Brandon's quite-obviously-soon-to-be-next-girlfriend appears on camera >beaming and VERY suntanned for a character who's supposed to have lived in >New York, wearing a beach outfit that screams "free spirit". She promptly >grins and says "Ally ally oxenfree!". Maybe the writers are Happy fans. Hmm. Near as I can recall, it was an expression used at the end of "Hide and Seek." When the person who was "it" was finally tired of looking, he would yell "ally ally oxenfree." At this point, everyone was to come out of hiding, and run toward "home." The person who was "it" would attempt to tag one of the other players as they ran toward "home," thereby marking them as the next to be "it." So I take it to mean something along the lines of "time to come out of hiding." -Sam ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 11:47:39 -0800 (PST) From: Ectophiles Guide Subject: Re: Ally ally oxenfree Sam Warren asked: > If I may, I'd like to expand this discussion to include "sneakers". A show of > hands, please...how many of you knew the shoes you would wear to gym class as > "sneakers," and how many knew them as "tennis shoes"? We called them "runners" occasionally "sneakers". Oh, and Neil, we said "husha" in "Ring Around the Rosy". I looked in our online dictionaries (OED and Websters) for Ally, olly, and oxenfree and didn't find any of them. Chris (welcome to ecto!!)--Penelope Houston did a tour a while back, and a lot of ectophiles caught the show. It was great. I've got _The Whole World_ and _Birdboy_ (I like both, but _Birdboy_ edges out TWW as my favourite. What is Silk Purse? Is that the video or is there another disc?? --Neile neile@u.washington.edu ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 11:50:55 PST From: erik@falcon.kla.com (Erik Johnson) Subject: Free linguistic oxen I hadn't realized that asking if our version of Hide-and-Seek was regional would lead to linguistic variations. Then again, this is Ecto - what else *should* I expect. :-) Growing up, I always called it "pop", but my ex-wife who grew up just a few miles away always called it "soda". My mother came from Georgia; that may have had something to do with it. I never did hear of "bubblers", though. And I wore my "sneakers" to gym class. Well, actually, I wore my "gym shoes"; my sneakers were the hacked-up pair I wore elsewhere before I discovered boots. And we never used "you'ns", "youse", "yinz", or even "y'all". How boring. ;-) For that matter, we used very few regionalisms. Somewhere along the line, the standard American announcer's English got standardized to a midwestern form, and so it's them Easterners that talk funny. :-) I hesitate to ask, but are there any other unique regionalisms out there? Something that surprised you when you moved? Erik and will this be the thread that ate Ecto? ____________________________________________________________________________ Erik N. Johnson Don't believe the return address. KLA Instruments Corp. The one and only True Address is: San Jose, CA e_johnso@kla.com. G E/CS d-- -p+ c++(++++) l u+ e- m++(--)* s+/+ !n h f+ g(+) w+ t@ r+@ y+(*) Your name is being called by sacred things That are not addressed nor listened to -- KB ======================================================================== From: brianb@netcom.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Re: Ally ally oxenfree Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 12:12:32 -0800 (PST) I made mention: > > Central Pennsylvania calls them "pops". They also have a weird > > rendition of "y'all".. it's "you'ns", one syllable. Go figure. > > > > br!an > > When I've heard that, it's always been pronounce "yins". Yeah, sorry, I pro'lly should have written it that way, but wanted to make the contraction a little more clear for non-locals. Yeah, is it basically pronounceed "yinz". They also say things like "warsh, slippy, and down- cellar" as in: "Yinz hear 'bout the time I fell on the stairs when goin' downcellar to do my warsh? Man, was them stairs slippy!" Sad, but I'm related to these people. :) br!an -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@netcom.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 15:29:49 -0500 (EST) From: MMCQUAD1@ithaca.edu Subject: Re: ecto #958 Douglas Adams is cool. He is beyond cool. He is froody. My favorite Douglas Adams lines are: "Ford, You're turning into a penguin. Stop it." "So far, wonderfully exciting things have failed to happen to me." "Oh, no...not again." <---This one is better in context. And many more that I can't remember exactly and don't want to get yelled at for screwwing up. Michelle, who simply felt she must share that with y'all. ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 13:26:32 PST From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) Subject: I am back Hello ecto, I am back from Ecuador, and slightly overwhelmed with the 25+ digests that I haven't yet read... Had a great time there! Musical highlight: I saw Rubberband Girl in MTV Internacional, or whatever the South American one is called, and wasn't that impressed (the saving parts were the ones from the film, IMHO). I was also reminded just how useless and boring US MTV is. In the 3 hours of MTV I saw, I knew 90% of the songs, and the 10% I didn't know were worth listening to (I saw the video for the new Enigma, and the Deep Forest track that y'all have been talking about). Angelos ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 13:57:25 PST From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: Laurie cancels I've just gotten the word that Laurie Anderson has cancelled (not postponed, CANCELLED) her shows in Berkeley in February. Dammit! Dammit! Dammit! D^2 ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Ally ally oxenfree Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 17:12:48 -0500 From: lcliffor@bbn.com Chip said: >My family always called soft drinks "pop" too, yup, BUT my ex-wife (who is >also from Kenosha) always called it "soda" in her family, so I dunno. Anyone remember the now rather antiquated New Englandism of calling it 'tonic'? I never used it but friends' parents would and I always thought it was weird. And we played hide-and-go-seek and ally ally oxenfreed around Boston, too. Laura ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 16:17:58 CST From: Subject: Fumbling towards philology John relphs: >Here in California we said "ollie ollie oxenfree". And I never knew >what it meant. What does it mean? Has anybody done an in-depth study >of the origins of this phrase? Perhaps it is explained in a dictionary >of slang somewhere. The very moment I read this, it occurred to me that it probably is a corruption of "all the oxen free." I have no idea what part of the world it originated in, except that it is undoubtedly from a place where the bovine are commonly referred to as oxen instead of cows. Where might that be? WRT Chris Farmer's mention of Jane's _No Borders Here_: The very moment I read it, it occurred to me that this would be the ideal title for an allegorical song about a place where all the booksellers are independents. This, in turn, reminded me of another train of thought kindled by my initial listen to the HGP tapes. I don't know if it's on the c90 version, but the c100s my copy is dubb- ed on have some filler tacked on at the ends. One of the things used for this purpose is Happy's "To Be E Mortal." It occurred to me that if this song were to fall into the hands of the likes of Weird Al Yankovic, we might end up with something on the order of "To Be E. Coli," a rumination on the business of being a bacterium; or maybe "To Be E-Mail," a road song for the information superhighway." It also struck me for the first time how much the original title sounds like something Prince, with his penchant for one-letter words, would come up with. Further down, Neile engages another of Chris' remarks: > [...] What is Silk Purse? Is that the video or is there another disc?? In my misspent youth, it was Linda Ronstadt's first solo album after she left the Stone Poneys :-). I can't speak to its place in the Penelope Houston dis- cography, however. In memory of Morty, the _Northern Exposure_ moose. Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 16:57:16 CST From: Subject: Still fumbling Neile graham'd: >Anyone know Latin? How does one pronounce "_philia"? I've never >pronounced -philia words with a long "i" but neither do I pronounce it >like the man's nickname, "Phil". I'm not surprised it came out sounding >like "feel". There seems to be a division of labor in the common usage, as best I can perceive it all. "-Philia" usually is used to denote strange sexual tastes (necrophilia, zoophilia, etc.), and on those occasions is typically pronounced as in "fill." The only phenomenon I can think of with the same suffix but a different substance is the disease hemophilia, which is typically pronounced with a long e sound. So apparently, the determining factor in the pronuncia- tion is whether it deals with kinky sex or too-thin blood. Go figure. (I won- der how they'll classify the content of _Interview With A Vampire_ along this dichotomy? :-) ) Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 17:08:36 CST From: The Everready bunny of fumblers Subject: On dropping carbonic acid by any other name WRT Laura's post: If "Tonic" was a New England regionalism for carbonated drinks in general, was there any name for quinine water specifically, especi- allly when used as a mixer with gin, vodka, etc? Over the weekend, a local newspaper columnist celebrated 25 years in the business by observing, among other things, that somewhere along the line, people ceased to recognize what she was talking about when she ordered coffee "Boston" (i.e., heavy on the cream). The way these things usually go, it would not surprise me in the least if that usage has never even been heard of in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts--much the way that French bread is supposedly referred to as such everywhere in the world but France, where it's commonly known as Italian bread. Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 15:17:35 -0800 (PST) From: Emily Breed Subject: Re: Fumbling towards philology On Tue, 11 Jan 1994 U15289@uicvm.bitnet wrote: > In memory of Morty, the _Northern Exposure_ moose. What? What? Has he shuffled off this mortal coil? Say it ain't so, Mitch! -- Emily (Dave and I have agreed that as soon as we figure out the logistics, we're going to get a moose. He will live in the front hall of Dave's apartment, and can frighten off any would-be burglars.) ======================================================================== Subject: fumblephilia Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 18:29:32 -0500 From: Dan Riley Mitches: >There seems to be a division of labor in the common usage, as best I can >perceive it all. "-Philia" usually is used to denote strange sexual tastes >(necrophilia, zoophilia, etc.), and on those occasions is typically pronounced >as in "fill." [...] So, anglophilia is kinky sex with englishpersons (is that so strange?), hydrophilia is kinky sex with water, bibliophilia is kinky sex with books, heliophilia is kinky sex with the sun? And epistemophilia is? :-> [aren't online dictionaries fun?] -dan ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 11:00:32 -0800 From: jmg@rocket.com (Jim Gurley) Subject: Sort of, like, maybe, kind of, you know, u---------h... Whilst scanning through alt.music.alternative a couple days ago I read a post on that ultimately forgettable mid-70s band, Klatteau, the ones who everybody claimed were John/Paul/George/Ringo under a false-impression....and I got to thinking about their song that the Carpenters had a hit with: Calling All Interplanetary Spacecraft.... and I thought (like wow, man) I wonder if Happy's ever heard of this song. And then (being a glutton for punishment) I thought like what other alien encounter songs are there about that we could make a list of possible covers for Happy... of course S.O.S. is by far the most superior one, but what other ala Spielberg creations are there???????? ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 18:56:19 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (world serve your own needs) Subject: socks on the breaks after reading this, i wondered if garison keillor will rewrite his ode to socks (still have a copy of that, mitch?). >Washington, District of Columbia: > >The Clintons have a personal problem: a homesick >family cat. > >Even after nearly a year in residence at 1600 >Pennsylvania Avenue, Socks still has not adjusted to >life in the White House. Indeed, the Clintons continue >to worry that if Socks were allowed to roam free, he >would take off at the first opportunity for the >Governor's Mansion in Little Rock. > >To alleviate the cat's homesickness, Hillary Rodham >Clinton has begun taking him with her on short trips >around Washington. However, whenever Socks is allowed >out on the White House grounds, he is kept on a 40-foot >leash. While the tether may affront his feline >dignity, it has not restrained his feline instincts and >agility: Despite the leash, Socks still has managed to >catch "a fair number" of White House squirrels. +woj ======================================================================== From: r.lovejoy1@genie.geis.com Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 23:32:00 BST Subject: strange dream Hi all, Oddly, after watching last night's Northern Exposure, in which people are having other people's dreams, I had a humdinger of a dream which seemed to last all night. The culmination of the dream was a jam with the Greatful Dead ( I think Phil Lesh switched to guitar or something...!). It was extremely vivid, and the strangest thing is I'm not a DeadHead. I like them well enough, at least certain songs, but this was quite strange for me. Personally, I'd rather have helped Meth push Happy's car, but then again I love to play music, so what the hey! Sunday's Philadelphia Inquirer ran a big article on Kate Bush, explaining how she rigged up a remote control to record the vocals for "The Red Shoes" without an engineer or anyone present. Thus she was able to shed her inhibitions. There was a side article about women singers who were influenced by Kate, with pictures of Jane Siberry, Tori Amos, Bjork, and Happy Rhodes. While not accurate in its description of Happy's music ("reverb-happy...meditative dentist office...") it was at least publicity. I think I shall have to write to the author and point out that "Off From Out >From Under Me" might not be fodder for a dentist's office. My dentist uses a station that features Peabo Bryson and Barry Manilow and others of that ilk. I solved this by bringing in a walkman armed with Rearmament. (BTW, Happy is righteous on NO2!) But I digress. I sent a copy of the articles to Susanne, who was happy to have the publicity. Vickie, I'll let her know about Panix and Telnet, though it seems Delphi might be a less expensive net.access. I too am examining other means. That's it for now. May you all have wonderous exciting dreams tonight! Bob the Dreamer +*************************************************************************+ + Robert Lovejoy + I've got a letter here postmarked Deep Space + + Deepspace + -The Firesign Theatre + + Cherry Hill, NJ + But baby I'm here and I've been quite an + + r.lovejoy1@genie.geis.com+ Alien too... + + kdvn07a on Prodigy + -Happy Rhodes + +*************************************************************************+ PS Thanks Jens for mentioning the attempt to do a HiFi thread! ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 18:14:26 CST From: Courtney Subject: more cotton for threads.. Well all, I had a nice long involved post almost ready to send off..them my modem connection decided to die on me and I lost it all. Howev 3er, I will try to summarize my findings with a minimum of space. Pop/bubblers: i caLL all soft drinks/carbonated drinks "coke"..it is such a generic term for me, even if i want a root beer or orange drink. this DOES cause misunderstandings needless to say. Sneakers: I learned a new name for them in Wales: trainers. I thought it was odd but neat, and i happily have worn my sneakers for years. Hide and Go seek/Kick the Can: a variant in which the seeker leaves the home "can" unattended to go seek. Seekee's run home and kick the can which lets aLL other seekee's in free. this olly olly all outs in free. Umm..a new game Ring around the Rosy has a very morbid beginning. It is a rhyme that sprang up around the Black Death in London in 1665 and 1666. Ring around the Rosy ...plague sores. A pocket full of posy...bunches of herbs carried to "cleanse the air breathed" Atishoo, Atishoo...self explanatory.. We all fall down...again..self explanatory. Sooo..there is a new twist to an otherwise innocuous children's rhyme. I always atishoo, atishoo when I played it. Well Mitch..having fun yet with our sociolingo ramblings???*grin* Chris..my parents AND Kiri's mom constantly send me library stuff...nice to kno w other parents are as loving!!!this is where it screwed up last time so BYE!! ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 16:34:13 PST From: "John Relph" Subject: Re: more cotton for threads.. >Umm..a new game Ring around the Rosy has a very morbid beginning. It is a >rhyme that sprang up around the Black Death in London in 1665 and 1666. >Ring around the Rosy ...plague sores. >A pocket full of posy...bunches of herbs carried to "cleanse the air breathed" >Atishoo, Atishoo...self explanatory.. >We all fall down...again..self explanatory. Good explanation! But we always said "Ashes to ashes We all fall down", as in "ashes to ashes dust to dust" the standard x-tian burial litany. Which might explain the use of the phrase in the Grateful Dead song which was popular a few years ago. Perhaps also in the Bowie song (which Happy as I am sure you are all aware covered), although his use may have been quoting from the litany rather than from the nursery rhyme. -- John ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 20:02 EST From: SABOE@ucis.vill.edu (linda) Subject: italian bread >Commonwealth of Massachusetts--much the way that French bread is supposedly >referred to as such everywhere in the world but France, where it's commonly >known as Italian bread. this is so, due to the fact that the italians invented it, and the french simply elongated it. :) it is a shame tho', to lose the flavor of our language. sigh. -linda > Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 17:03:02 PST From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: Re: more cotton for threads.. Chris theorized: > Umm..a new game Ring around the Rosy has a very morbid beginning. It is a > rhyme that sprang up around the Black Death in London in 1665 and 1666. > Ring around the Rosy ...plague sores. > A pocket full of posy...bunches of herbs carried to "cleanse the air breathed" > Atishoo, Atishoo...self explanatory.. > We all fall down...again..self explanatory. > Sooo..there is a new twist to an otherwise innocuous children's rhyme. I > always atishoo, atishoo when I played it. I've heard this explanation before, and have also heard that it's incorrect, but it's entered the realm of Conventional Wisdom anyway. I think Cecil Adams did a bit on this.. I'd look it up, but my copies of "The Straight Dope" are out on loan. D^2 ======================================================================== From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 21:00:50 Subject: bits'n'pieces Hey, what is this 1994 thingy you are all talking about? ;-) Anyway, hope you enjoy it! Paul C. about Doom: > But the thing is about as close to virtual reality as you can get > without elaborate equipment. No doubt about that, and I'm all for virtual reality, but I can't enjoy a game with such massive and realistic violence. Meth> Well, the secret's out. Greg (footah!), woj, jess, and I really are the > same person manifested in four separate versions, pick your favorite one Excuse me, but how do you pick your favourite clone? ;) Mitch> _All Things Considered_ just alluded to the recent flooding in Europe. > Any of our friends been affected by all that? It wasn't that bad in Wuppertal. OK, it was raining cats and dogs, apparently in small drops of water, but it was just running down the hill, into the Wupper which quickly transported it to the Rhine and down to The Netherlands. People at the Rhine weren't that happy about it. Chris S> First: Is anyone out there (besides Diane Burke and myself) > interested in "figuring out" and exchanging the (very annotated) "fake > book" versions of Happy's music? YES, kind of. :) Unfortunately I'm not able help, but I would like to see the results, as I've just started to play a song (KD Lang's "Constant Craving") on guitar with the help of a TAB from one of the guitar newsgroups. So far I can only play the intro and it takes a couple of seconds to sort my fingers for the bar chords, but I'm getting there. :) Can someone recommend ear plugs for Claudia. :) Haven't seen it mentioned on ecto before, though I haven't received digests for ages (or so it seems), so let me tell you that Homeground #50 is out and contains the 2nd part of the Ecto/Homeground interview with Happy. I must say that I don't like how it has been edited into english although I try to keep _my_ writing to english as well. But why did they have to insert an 'u' in every 'favorite' when the author is writing american english? ___________________________________________________________ . * | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | _ . * .* . | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | (_) . | --- Happy Rhodes --- | . . o | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge klaus@inphobos.wupper.de | <== ======================================================================== From: Ethan_Straffin@next.com (Ethan Straffin) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 17:33:40 -0800 Subject: Re: more cotton for threads.. D^2 sez... > I think Cecil Adams did a bit on this.. I'd look it up, but my copies > of "The Straight Dope" are out on loan. Ouch! What a horrible, helpless feeling that must be...that's almost as bad as having your *Douglas* Adams out on loan! Anyway, my copy of _The Straight Dope_ is lying around somewhere, albeit in tatters from overuse. Maybe I'll check it out tonight and report back... Ethan ======================================================================== From: "Bradley N. Hutchinson" Subject: ally Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 20:29:47 EST Well, I finally got to hear the whole cranberries CD andI havee to recant my disappear fear thought. The single "Linger" sounded like them to me and still does but that's it! I really like the rest much better than the single. And, in West Virginia we used the "all you all you out in free" when we played hide and go seek. I guess WV could be considered an eastern state but not the midwest! Brad -- bhutchin@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu Albert Einstein nailed Space/Time but the wild thing had him stumped Al baby two and two make five and a quarter that's why people fall in love--thomas dolby ======================================================================== From: kmorrey@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Kathleen Morrey) Subject: (O)lly (O)lly Oxenfree Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 20:13:24 -0600 (CST) Just thought I'd add, in comment to Vickie, that I always thought of it as Olly Olly Oxenfree - I guess if it's a corruption of "all" it should be spelled all, but I know that my pronunciation of it is more like an olly than an olly... Hugs to all, Kath ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 19:24:32 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: Re: Sort of, like, maybe, kind of, you know, u---------h... > Whilst scanning through alt.music.alternative a couple days ago I read a > post on that ultimately forgettable mid-70s band, Klatteau, the ones who ... > And then (being a glutton for punishment) I thought like what other alien > encounter songs are there about that we could make a list of possible covers > for Happy... > of course S.O.S. is by far the most superior one, but what other ala > Spielberg creations are there???????? What popped in my mind, what with the 70s reference was: Billy Thorpe's "Children of the Sun" AlexGibbs arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu |\| | (~, |-| ~|~ |-| /-\ \/\/ |< Short sign on short post. ======================================================================== From: "Bradley N. Hutchinson" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 21:29:39 EST For some reason I can't put in a subject line?? And, this is my third try to get something to ecto? I'm not sure sure what is wrong. Oh well. . . . . * To see one crow is bad. Two crows are lucky. Three crows signify good health. Four crows, great wealth. Five crows together portend sickness. Six crows mean death. Well, I finally got to hear the whole cranberries CD andI havee to recant my disappear fear thought. The single "Linger" sounded like them to me (and still does) but that's it! I really like the rest much better than the single. And, in West Virginia we used the "all you all you out in free" when we played hide and go seek. I guess WV could be considered an eastern state but not the midwest! Brad -- bhutchin@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)