Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #406 ecto, Number 406 Tuesday, 26 January 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Today's your birthday friend.... Oh, Happy Happy, Joy Joy! A headnote No room at the N and other unfinished business Warpaint Hi, Jim Re: catching up with ectopech... Re: Corrected Song Title Heard from Happy Happy explains EQUIPOISE Happy birthday...! Non-Ecto Birthdays lyrics to Wear Your Love Like Heaven?! Re: Oh, Happy Happy, Joy Joy! ======================================================================== From: "Michael Blackmore" Date: 25 Jan 93 12:40:55 EST Subject: Ectoites, Here's something important that I thought people should know about and maybe take action on. I hope people don't mind me posting this! It's coming under separate file! - Michael B. ======================================================================== From: "Michael Blackmore" Date: 25 Jan 93 12:40:55 EST Subject: Forwarded message: >From POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU!JRYCENGA Wed Jan 20 11:52:44 1993 For political activists, or media watchdogs, or just concerned women, here's a quick something you can do to help prevent and stop domestic violence. Super Bowl Sunday - which this year is January 31, here in southern California at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena - is the single worst day for domestic violence in the USA. There is an increase of as much as 40% in the volume handled by domestic violence shelters on this day. To try to stem this tide of violence, the Women's Action Coalition (WAC) of Los Angeles is supporting the campaign by Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) to convince NBC (the network carrying the game) to carry two Public Service Announcements on domestic violence during the Super Bowl this year. Anna Quindlen of the New York Times wrote a fine editorial in the 1/17/93 edition of the Times supporting this effort as well. What I am asking of you - and all your friends (please PLEASE cross-post this to _any_ lists you can think of) - is to help us with a FAX/LETTER blitz on NBC, asking for these PSA's. Here is a sample letter: Dick Ebersol President, NBC Sports NBC 30 Rockefeller Plaza New York, NY 10112 Dear Mr. Ebersol: I would like to add my support to FAIR's request that you air two Public Service Announcements on domestic violence during the Super Bowl game. The Super Bowl is one of the most widely viewed television events of the year; it is also the day, according to women's shelters, when calls for help increase by as much as 40%. Your broadcast of the Super Bowl will reach a huge audience. By airing PSAs, NBC will be bringing a national audience's attention to the critical issue of domestic violence. Sincerely, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- End of Forwarded Message Subject: addendum to superbowl day abuse Hi, I noticed that the Superbowl note didn't include a fax number for NBC. I dug around and found this one. It's not direct to the sports department, but at least it will get into NBC. NBC New York, NY 212.765.8447 ------- End of Forwarded Message This just came in the mail, so you may want to send this instead: Dick Ebersol's FAX number is 212-664-5835. ======================================================================== Subject: Today's your birthday friend.... From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 06:51:23 GMT i*i*i*i*i*i *************** ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ****** Sean Casey ***** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Sean Casey Thu January 25 1962 ICB Tim Devine Tue February 3 1970 Aquarius Stephen Thomas Fri February 4 1966 Aquarius Gene Sady Tue February 7 1956 Aquarius Doug Burks Tue February 14 1956 Blank Christine Waite Fri February 25 1972 Pisces -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.w.open.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== From: jmg@rocket.com (Jim Gurley) Subject: Oh, Happy Happy, Joy Joy! Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 11:57:27 PST Hi! I guess it's time I quit lurking/watching/peeking around corners, whatever you call it...I've been getting the digests for a couple months, ever since my SO, Neile (yes, the Canadian True North woman :)...ever since we got Happy's WARPAINT on spec at our local Tower, oh last fall. Since then we've gotten the complete oeuvre (to date, can't wait till the re-alignment of all the stars on Feb. 9). Got really obsessive about Ecto/Rearmament; can hear it again and again without the music sounding old or predictable. Only certain songs off RI&II have the same effect on me. But then with Neile around I get enough exposure to RI&II that I'm growing to like it. Am fond of most of the singers mentioned on ecto so far, but has anybody here heard of Television, Pere Ubu, Richard Thompson, Najma (sp), Ali Hasan Kuban, Cheb Kalad, or Terry Hall (late of Specials/Fun Boy Three)?? Must admit that I'm not the Tori fanatic that Neile is :(, but then I'm a big Kate, Jane, Sara M., MMO'H, Dalbello, Susanne V, Mouth Music, M&M, June Tabor, Maddy Prior, Joni M., Stereolab, Spirit of the West, M. Sebastian, etc., etc....fan. Now for the facts: shoe size: 8 1/2. Birthday: July 6th, 1959. Oh, yeah, hello to you Michael P. --Jim ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 15:32:17 CST From: Mitch Pravatiner Subject: A headnote As I write this, I have recently finished skimming through Vickie's remarkable personal testament, and feel ambivalent about posting anything with a light touch to it, as most of my postings to ecto do. Be that as it may, I've decid- ed to go through with it, on the theory that something to break the tension will do us good in the aggregate. I hope that Vickie's exercise in self-disclosure will help her feel better in the long run; my subjective sense is that it ultimately will. I hope that my subsequent postings this afternoon will help her, and all of us, feel better in the short run. Mitch ======================================================================== Date: 25 January 1993 15:44:59 CST From: Subject: No room at the N and other unfinished business After I posted my 10-best list Friday, it dawned on me that a couple of items I'd meant to include--presumably at the expense of a couple of others that popped into my head instead--had somehow drifted out of consciousness in the interim. As such, I am now pleased to raise the ante to the level of what _Playboy_'s annual centerfold revue used to call "the past delightful dozen," and commend to your listening pleasure: Kendra Smith, _The Guild of Temporal Adventurers_ Loreena McKennitt, _The Visit_ Amid all the birthday missives last week, it turns out that Chinese New Year was over the weekend. Friday's _Sun-Times_ carried the following summary of the Chinese zodiac: Year of the Rat: 1912/24/36/48/60/72/84. Attractive to the opposite sex. Generous and sentimental. Easily angered, yet able to maintain control. Prone to spend freely. Y.o.t. Ox: 1913/25/37/49/61/73/85. Patient and Methodical. Soft-spoken mann- er inspires trust. Can be happy by yourself, yet make an outstanding partner. Quiet, with fiery temper. Tiger: 1914/26/38/50/62/74/86. Aggressive, courageous, candid and sensitive. Born leader who commands respect. Rabbit: 1915/27/39/51/63/75/87. Luckiest of all signs, you are also talented, adaptable and articulate. Affectionate, yet shy. Dragon: 1916/28/40/52/64/76/88. A passionate nature and abundant wealth, which makes you much pursued by the opposite sex. You are eccentric, with a complex life. Snake: 1917/29/41/53/65/77/89. Good-looking, intuitive and intellectual. Money never worries you as you always have enough for your needs, but you can be stingy. Horse: 1918/30/42/54/66/78/90. Defenseless against members of the opposite sex. Often ostentatious and impatient. Independent, and a good manager of money. Goat: 1919/31/43/55/67/79/91. Ideal marriage partner: gentle, compassionate, with a good disposition. [Appropriately, this is ecto's sign.] You have no money problems, but can be shy and pessimistic. Monkey: 1920/32/44/56/68/80/92. Very bright, and able to influence people. Excellent memory. Held in high regard because of your competence, but can be cunning, too. Rooster: 1921/33/45/57/69/81/93. Aggressive, enjoy challenges. Talented, capable, devoted to your work. Dog: 1922/34/46/58/70/82/94. Deeply loyal. You're honest, and can keep secrets. Elequent Dog people make good leaders and friends. Boar: 1923/35/47/59/71/83/95. Noble and chivalrous. Friends will be lifelong, yet you are are prone to marital strife. You have tremendous fortitude. Saturday, Blackout Records was playing the new album by Belly, the group formed by old Throwing Muses hands. It sounds good, and will be out in a couple of weeks. Sunday, _Echoes_ played "Words Weren't Made for Cowards." Somehow, it seems apropos, apropos Vickie's latest contribution to these pages. A belated happy birthday to Roe v. Wade. Saturday also, Garrison Keillor noted that it was Australia Day. So, happy Australia Day to ectophiles there. Lamenting the impending demise of the Sears catalog, a part of Americana since the 1890's. Mitch ------------------------------ To the memory of Thurgood Marshall ======================================================================== From: Tim Albaugh Subject: Warpaint Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 15:16:35 PDT Greetings, I recently purchased Warpaint. I found it at Camelot at Bellevue Square in Bellevue Washington (land of the great Inauguration Day Storm). After listening to it several times, all I can say is....WOW! This CD is VERY impressive. I like the second half of the CD more than I do the first. Which one of her other CD's would you suggest I buy next? Thanks Tim Albaugh BBN Advanced Simulation Bellevue, WA talbaugh@bbn.com ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 16:38:00 -0800 From: Michael G Peskura Subject: Hi, Jim > From: jmg@rocket.com (Jim Gurley) A big welcome-to-ecto-land to Jim 'Rocket Man' Gurley! > I guess it's time I quit lurking/watching/peeking around corners, whatever > you call it... Well, i think you will find (as i have) the finest people on the internet right here on this mailing list! > Am fond of most of the singers mentioned on ecto so far, but has anybody > here heard of Television, Pere Ubu, Richard Thompson, Najma (sp), Ali Hasan > Kuban, Cheb Kalad, or ... Specials?? Television, along with the Patti Smith Group, were at the center of the CBGB's explosion of music in Manahattan. You do know they have regrouped to release a CD this year? And Tom Verlaine recorded an excellent CD of solo guitar work. Pere Ubu is one of my favorite groups from those days at the leading edge of the 80's. (Though i admit little interest in later recordings.) I was really excited when they finally performed in Seattle. Were you here when bands like this & the Specials (and Selector) & Magazine played at the Showbox? > Oh, yeah, hello to you Michael P. Same to you, Mr. G. Mp "livin' at night isn't helpin' my complexion" ======================================================================== From: meth@aol.com Subject: Re: catching up with ectopech... Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:15:07 EST Hi! The Sundays don't sound ANYTHING like early, middle, late or future Cocteau Twins. woj, you're hallucinating again. :> Meredith meth@aol.com ======================================================================== From: meth@aol.com Subject: Re: Corrected Song Title Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 22:13:09 EST Hi! And while we're at it, the Sunday's first album is really _Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic_.. Meredith meth@aol.com ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 0:32:41 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Heard from Happy Hi, I got a letter from Happy today. She said that she got the HGP and was "completely thrilled" but that she hasn't had time to formulate specific thought about it yet. The blouse was too small :-(. She said that soon, she'll have *REALLY BIG NEWS* for me (to pass along, I presume). The caps and emphasis are Happy's btw. Oh yay! The main reason for the letter will come in the next post. Vickie ps, weird, someone got into my system last night and posted a bunch of very strange long articles. How very odd. pps, *DON'T* pay full price for the new Anna Palm album. *ESPECIALLY* if it's _import_ price. Pfft! ppps, Caitlin Von Schmidt is pretty ok. It's early Brenda kahn-ish. Which reminds me that I have Brenda Kahn's new album and I don't much care for it. yet anyway. It just doesn't have the charm of _Goldfish Don't Talk Back_. pppps, Does anyone know anything about Myra Holder or a group called The Daou? ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 0:34:48 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Happy explains EQUIPOISE =================================================================== ======================================================================== EQUIPOISE --------- State of Balance All my life, I've found relating to animals an effortless thing. I know that I have oceans of compassion for them, mostly because I've always believed they were innocent and pure. It was always easy to care about a being, when you perceived that being as a blameless, simple creature of nature. I was also painfully aware that I didn't hold the same compassion for human beings. The death of an animal has always had a more profound effect on me than the death of a human. Somewhere along the way, I decided this needed to change. I am, after all, a human being. This began a long thought process for me, trying to figure out how I can be so judgemental of humankind...why did I have such a fatalistic attitude about my own race? During the year of 1992 (the time of the writing of the album), I came upon many revelations about the way I relate to humans. The most important is as follows; In order for me to be truly at ease with people, and humans as a race, I first must be at ease with myself. I am the microcosm of all humanity. If I refuse to see the darker aspects of myself, then I automatically condemn those with the same traits. If I refuse to acknowledge that I have certain weaknesses, then I automatically alienate those people with similar weaknesses. If I take no pride in my own honesty, kindness and humor, then I certainly won't be able to appreciate those characteristics in *other* people. I finally realized that everything I considered to be "unfavorable" about my personality, was exactly what I needed to *embrace* and *accept*. We're taught to supress all things ugly and to deny any personal idiosyncrasies or "deviant" behaviors. In doing so, we remove ourselves from humankind and furthermore, we invalidate the existence of every human being. I believe now, that a more perfect *state of balance* can be achieved, by accepting and embracing the *DARK* as well as the *LIGHT* in ourselves. One doesn't exist with the other, and true compassion for humanity doesn't come from a constant squelching or "stomping out" of the darker aspects of ourselves. True compassion comes from understanding. This new personal knowledge colors my life now, and did, throughout the year of 1992. Thus, the title _EQUIPOISE_. Thanks so much to everyone for listening. I hope this new album has at least a little something to offer you all. PEACE Happy Rhodes January 25, 1993 ====================================================================== ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 0:36:58 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Happy birthday...! HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Sean Casey! Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 22:49:57 PST From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Subject: Happy explains EQUIPOISE This is absolutely totally cool. I'm beginning to think that Happy _really_ is. (Don't anybody leak this to rec.music.gaffa :-) ). I sent in my preorder last week. Now it'll be even harder to wait. ======================================================================== From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk Subject: Non-Ecto Birthdays Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 9:44:44 BST There seems to be quite a cluster of notable people's birthdays over the next eight days: Tuesday 26th - Philip Jose Farmer (1918) Wayne Gretzky (1961) Wednesday 27th - Lewis Carroll (1832) Thursday 28th - (any offers?) Friday 29th - Oprah Winfrey (1954) Saturday 30th - Vanessa Redgrave (1937) Sunday 31st - Norman Mailer (1923) Monday 1st - Boris Yeltsin (1931) Terry Jones (1942) Tuesday 2nd - Graham Nash (1942) James Joyce (1882) I'd be interested in any additions. -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== From: Ulrich Grepel Subject: lyrics to Wear Your Love Like Heaven?! Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 12:59:52 MET Hi, has anyone of you tried to transcribe the lyrics to Sarah McLachlan's 'Wear Your Love Like Heaven'? I have a promo edition of the CD (with very nice packaging and pictures, more than with the normal CD), but the lyrics to this last song are missing. I recall they are missing on the normal edition of the CD too, so I just did the best I could. Unfortunately some passages have evaded me. I marked them with [???] and am interested what you here there. If anyone hears the same as I do, I would ask what these passages could mean... Bye, Uli P.S.: Has anyone a transcription of the lyrics of Nina Hagen's first album? Of course they are German, but sometimes they are a little bit difficult to understand (or to believe ;-). Interested in my attempt of transcribing? Or should I do a translation? (but then I would need help with some of the more obscene parts to get them right). --------------------------------------------------------------------- Wear Your Love Like Heaven ========================== Color in sky brush and blue [???] Scarlett fleas changes you [???] Crimson bowls seeks from view [???] Wear your love like heaven Lord, kiss me once more, fill me with song, Allah, kiss me once more that I may, that I may Wear my love like heaven Color sky, have an arlic [???] Color sky, rose Carmethen [???] Alice are re-and-crimson [???] Wear your love like heaven Lord, kiss me once more, fill me with song, Allah, kiss me once more that I may, that I may Wear my love like heaven Wear your love like heaven Lord, kiss me once more, fill me with song, Allah, kiss me once more that I may, that I may Wear my love like heaven Cannot believe what I've seen All I have wished for will be All of our race proud and free Wear your love like heaven Lord, kiss me once more, fill me with song, Allah, kiss me once more that I may, that I may Wear my love like heaven ======================================================================== From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk Subject: Re: lyrics to Wear Your Love Like Heaven?! Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 12:09:42 BST On Tue, 26 Jan 93 at 12:59:52 MET, Ulrich Grepel wrote: > Wear Your Love Like Heaven > ========================== > > Color in sky brush and blue [???] Make that "Prussian Blue", the name of a painter's pigment. -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk Subject: Re: Oh, Happy Happy, Joy Joy! Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 12:19:58 BST On Mon, 25 Jan 93 at 11:57:27 PST, jmg@rocket.com (Jim Gurley) wrote: > Am fond of most of the singers mentioned on ecto so far, but has anybody > here heard of Television, Pere Ubu, Richard Thompson, Najma (sp), Ali Hasan > Kuban, Cheb Kalad, or Terry Hall (late of Specials/Fun Boy Three)?? I have Television's "Marquee Moon" and "Adventure". Lovely stuff. Were there any other albums? Did Tom Verlaine do anything in a similar vien before or after Television? Brings back memories of late nights in the campus radio station when I was at college. Now, surely *EVERYBODY* has heard of Richard Thompson! Hardly an obscure artist, or is he obscure in the US? Come to that, I'm so out of touch with the UK music scene that these days he may be obscure over here to the younger generation! -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== From: "Michael Blackmore" Date: 26 Jan 93 09:34:58 EST Subject: Re: lyrics to Wear Your Love Like Heaven?! Ulrich, The lyrics to Sarah M.'s "Wear Your Love Like Heaven" seem *remarkably* similar to the Dononvan song of the same name from the '60s. Many records stores or books stores will have lyrics to his songs. It's seems to be getting common nowaday to do covers of his music, even Kate Bush did it with "Lord of the Reedy River". - Michael B. ======================================================================== Subject: Re: lyrics to Wear Your Love Like Heaven?! Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 09:55:28 -0500 From: "Daniel S. Riley" "Michael Blackmore" writes: > The lyrics to Sarah M.'s "Wear Your Love Like Heaven" seem >*remarkably* similar to the Dononvan song of the same name from the >'60s. I remember hearing somewhere that it is the Donovan song, and Sarah doesn't know the lyrics! She doesn't have them, and couldn't decipher what Donovan sings--she just tries to sing the same sounds. I guess that's why the lyrics don't appear. (I would love to have an attribution for this story--if anyone knows where (if) she said this, speak up!). -- Dan Riley Internet: dsr@lns598.tn.cornell.edu Wilson Lab, Cornell University HEPNET/SPAN: lns598::dsr (44630::dsr) "Maybe, leastways is the best way of all" -Caterwaul ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)