Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #396 ecto, Number 396 Monday, 18 January 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Graham Parker Re: Lisa Germano's albums stuff Re: three male singers I'm so Happy ... Loreena Conversions Re: Eddi Reader Calm before the Storm (poem) Re: Daily Digest? Eddi Reader ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1993 12:47:26 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Potter Subject: Graham Parker Hey Angelos, I have The Up Escalator, (circa 1981) by Graham Parker, and I still love it. He is definitely more jamminable than Costello--a lot of angst in his voice and lyrics. I find myself singing lines from that album in all sorts of odd situations. Highly recommended. Skaludy spotter@darwin.bio.uci.edu ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 17 Jan 93 19:50:03 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Lisa Germano's albums Finney asks: > Would anybody tell me where I can find Lisa Germano's > albums in San Francisco, Bay Area except for Berkeley? > > Thanks. Hi, she has a distributor, but I don't know what it is or where they go. You might just call around. Or, to get it directly from Lisa, write: Lisa Germano P.O. Box 30087 Indianapolis, IN 46230 As far as I know, she only has one album. _On the Way Down From the Moon Palace_ Major Bill Records MBO191 I'm pleased because I just got my CD back after lending to a friend who had it for months. (Since before I even did the Femme Music tapes.) I listened to it last night and it's still quite wonderful! Simple, poignant and powerful. "Dig My Own Grave" was reestablished as one of the best songs on the album (though they're all good.) Did you see something about her somewhere recently, is that why you were asking about her? If so, let us know what and where. Thanks! Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 17 Jan 93 18:58:41 CST From: kiri Subject: stuff Hi folx..back in the deep south. It's good to see that Mouth Music and Happy will have a release on the same date. Can we preorder Equipoise?? Life down isn't so lonely anymore now that I have a kitten. Yes, yet another spaztic cat is loose on ecto. He's mister affectionate and his name is Boo - says Mew to y'all :) Valerie - ya out there? Court and I are planning a Jan.29-31 sojourn to Atlanta, and we would love to get together with ya again!! Are there any other ectophiles in Atlanta. Also..we are going to Washington D.C. on valentines weekend - any ectophiles that want to get together for lunch or otherwise let me know - would like to get together with y'all if we can arrange something. Guess that's about it. Take care alL! kiri there must be a lot of pain for the happiness I feel today the balance can be cruel sometimes can turn you round the other way i lifted up my head from sleep linger in the scent of a dream someone must be crying now to make me laugh in sympathy..Split Enz ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 17 Jan 93 20:13:39 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: three male singers > Angelos (Princeton and Johns Hopkins, here I come!! :) :) :) ) Really? GREAT!! Congratulations!!! Vickie ======================================================================== From: boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Christopher Boek) Subject: I'm so Happy ... Date: Mon, 18 Jan 93 14:16:29 EST Wheeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!! My Happy stuff arrived this morning!!!!!!!! I haven't had a chance to listen to much of it - I was just leaving when the postman arrived and had to basically leave it, but I'm so very very Happy now. I know what I'll be listening to for a little while *:). I had a little bit of a listen to Ecto and had a little look at some of the lyrics - 'If So' particularly as I really like that song. It's quite sad, quite moving and throws a whole new light on it for me. I can't wait to get through the rest of it now ... I'll still be in this stuff when Equipoise comes out for sure. Can't wait for that one. I should be able to afford it by then .... Wheeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!(again) Chris. BTW - If Happy has stuff in the stores in the US, does that mean I would be able to get the stuff via importers here, or would I still have to mail AG direectly. Actually come to think of it, it's probably quicker to order direct. Whatever *:) -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||Christopher Boek - boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | || Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | / "Anybody remotely interesting is mad in |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| \_/\_/\_/\_/\__/(:*- some way or another" ======================================================================== From: meth@aol.com Subject: Loreena Conversions Date: Sun, 17 Jan 93 22:27:17 EST Hi! Today I did the second of the Winter Break Champagne Jam Triple-Hours on WESU. Since certain circumstances had prevented me from doing the Celtic special I'd planned, I decided to do the next best thing and feature Loreena McKennitt for half an hour. I played selections from _The Visit_, _Parallel Dreams_, and _Elemental_, and got the best response I've gotten from anything else like that I've done. One guy pulled off Interstate 91 to ask me where he could buy her stuff! It was a lot of fun- I love being able to introduce people to artists they otherwise never would've heard of. Hmm... maybe next time I'll feature Happy. I usually get something of a response when I just play a song or two of hers in my regular show. Back to Loreena- has anyone had consistent luck finding her earlier material south of the border? I'm ready to write to Quinlan Road Productions and see about ordering direct (the CDs I had today belong to woj- thanks woj :), but if I can go to a store and pick them up it'd be a lot better. I'd ideally be able to find _PD_ and _Elemental_ by the 30th of this month, since my sister threatened me with bodily harm if I don't supply her with as much Loreena as possible and that's her birthday. :} (She went to see her in Tucson on my urging without knowing anything about her music at all, and flipped for the music... now I'm kicking myself even harder for not going up to Northampton in November to see her! :P) Thanks in advance, all... Meredith :) meth@aol.com *US out of the Persian Gulf. NOW.* ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 17 Jan 93 22:54:59 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Eddi Reader > Hi! > > Vickie wrote: > > > Another apostle has been welcomed into the fold. Eddi Reader! > > Jens, your turn...tell these fine folks about this truly > > wonderful woman, if you please. > > Well, I'll try my best, even though I don't actually know very much about > her! Let's go back to the fall of '89 (I was working on my masters thesis > back then): Now that I have my mail.txt file back, I can answer this. Thanks Jens, for your story and **EXTRA BIG SPECIAL THANKS** for sending me a tape of Eddi. I like everything that everyone else sent (I don't want to slight anyone) but this has been the one to go **BOING** and bounce right on into the Apostle Hall of Fame. She doesn't write her own music, so she goes over in the section with Mary Coughlin, Julee Cruise and other pure singers. ****SHE IS WONDERFUL!!!**** I've absolutely fallen completely and totally in love with her voice and style and the songs she sings, all of which are great! Seriously, I haven't heard one that I didn't like. I played the tape over and over again. I played it for everyone who came over. One person i played it for was my friend Charley (the Kate/Jane/Happy fan who went to Philadelphia to see Happy's show with his friend Sally, who was borrowing her boyfriend's $100,000 Mercedes 500SL-yow!) Charley fell in love, and gave a dub of it to his friend Avery, who is a huge Jane fan. Avery fell in love, and asked his dad, who was going to London for business, to look for the _Mirmama_ CD. Avery's dad found it, and brought back 2 of them. Avery got one and Charley got the other (:-(.......) but I'm borrowing it from Charley. Yesterday Charley found *3* (three!) vinyl 12", all from Fairground Attraction, at a used record store. He brought them over and I'm going to tape them, but at least I know that they're still floating around. > just has to be Eddi Reader!". It was, and it turns out that she now sings > with a band called the Patron Saints of Imperfection. She had just released > a new album called "Mirmama" with lots of good music which shows off her > voice very well. It contains mellow, jazzy tunes such as "Honeychild", folk > songs "The Blacksmith" and wild, joyful songs such as "All or Nothing". It's *very* hard to pick favorites, I love them all, but I think, maybe, that "Honeychild" is my favorite from Mirmama. It's just absolutely wonderful! I played it on my show before I got the CD, then again after I got the CD, then again on my "Things I Liked From 1992" show. (Which is on-going. I've done 2 so far, and there will be at least 2 more. I plan to post a playlist for all of them when I'm done. *Lots* of things came out last year that I liked.) > So what does she sound like? Augh! ;-) I think the closest comparison I can > come up with is this: Imagine Cyndi Lauper singing the kind of songs Mary > Black (that's another superb singer!) sings, then you may have an idea... > Eddi Reader has the same kind of intimate, a little raspy(?) voice Cyndi > Lauper has, but she uses it in a very different way: Softly, caressing and > smiling. The music is generally a little folk, a little jazzy and fits > hers voice very well. Cyndi Lauper...that might give the impression that Eddi has a high, silly voice. I know that Cyndi has a soulful, bluesy voice, such as she used with Blue Angel, but many people might not be familiar with that side of Cyndi. I see Eddi as being closer to Mary Coughlin (though many might not know her either.) Like you said..."Augh!" She is hard to describe. Mary Coughlin & Carmel...Mari Wilson...recent kd lang...Julee Cruise (except that Eddi isn't "ethereal" at all)...Eddi belongs in the same category as these women, music-wise. > Finally, you can hear Eddi on these CDs: > Fairground Attraction: "The First of a Million Kisses", BMG, PD71696. > Fairground Attraction: "Ay fond Kiss", BMG, PD74596. > Eddi Reader: "Mirmama", BMG, PD75156. > (BMG Records seems to be affiliated with RCA, that may be easier to locate) Here is the information about the 12"s: All are by Fairground Attraction, vocals by Eddi Reader. ------------------------------- Clare 12" Clare Do You Want To Know A Secret? The Game of Love Jock O'Hazeldeal RCA PT 42608 1988 ------------------------------- A Smile In A Whisper 12" A Smile In A Whisper Walking After Midnight Winter Rose Trying Times RCA PT 42250 1988 ------------------------------ Find My Love 12" Find My Love Watching the Party You Send Me Ay Fond Kiss RCA PT42080 1988 ------------------------------ As with the 2 albums I've heard, every song is good. And yes, those familiar songs (Walking After Midnight, ....Secret and You Send Me) are covers. *Great* covers! None of the album tracks are extended mixes or remixes. Can't have everything...) It seems as if there should be at least one more 12" wandering around. The song "Perfect" should have been a 12" release since it was the single. (I actually have a video to "Perfect" from MTV. That's the only time I had heard about Fairground Attraction until recently.) > Eddi Reader is definitely one of my most favorite singers, and I strongly > recommend her to the rest of this fine assembly. YES!!YES!!YES!! HighlyHighlyHigly recommended by me too! Eddi Reader, well worth tracking down. (Also look for Fairground Attraction--not Fairport Convention, though Eddi and Sandy Denny have a lot in common--and Patron Saints of Imperfection, which may--or may not--be what _Mirmama_ is filed/listed under.) Vickie say goget.. Thanks again Jens! Vickie vickie@pilot.njin.net _________ |_ _ | _ Fuzzy Blue Wonderland "We're waking up |__|_ ||_| "There is a road straight yes it's good" to my heart" ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 17 Jan 93 23:08:06 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Loreena Conversions > Hi! > > Today I did the second of the Winter Break Champagne Jam Triple-Hours on > WESU. Since certain circumstances had prevented me from doing the Celtic > special I'd planned, I decided to do the next best thing and feature Loreena > McKennitt for half an hour. I played selections from _The Visit_, _Parallel > Dreams_, and _Elemental_, and got the best response I've gotten from anything > else like that I've done. One guy pulled off Interstate 91 to ask me where > he could buy her stuff! It was a lot of fun- I love being able to introduce > people to artists they otherwise never would've heard of. I've had all-Loreena shows recently too, since I got all the CDs thanks to Mike Mendelson (thanks again!) and they were fun to do. I never get any responses anymore, but I hope someone out in the void liked it. Vickie > *US out of the Persian Gulf. NOW.* *Saddam straighten up and observe the UN resolutions. NOW.* ======================================================================== From: shark@cs.ucla.edu (Jeanne B. Schreiter) Subject: Calm before the Storm (poem) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 93 20:18:46 PST Calm before the Storm There was calm before the storm rushing patterns of green gold sunrises major disasters in the skies at night, they said I just looked at the moon and sighed Breathe in deeply draw the sun into your back feel it, do you feel it? Do you feel us in you? The wind calmed down. The waters cooled. Blue like they tell me you can see your feet even when it's 6 feet deep tranquility in tranparency And I heard her piano in the background stroking me over with her left hand grazing me with her right, filling my chest with music. -JB Schreiter (thanks for a title, Vickie!) -- -- ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Loreena Conversions Date: Mon, 18 Jan 93 00:52:14 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu meth, previously known as Meredith, writes: >Back to Loreena- has anyone had consistent luck finding her earlier material >south of the border? I'm ready to write to Quinlan Road Productions and see >about ordering direct (the CDs I had today belong to woj- thanks woj :), but >if I can go to a store and pick them up it'd be a lotbetter. There seem to be a sudden move to stock Loreena. Two or three weeks ago I found all 3 'early' CDs at Melody in Dupont Circle (same place that's stocking Happy) at the obscene price of $23 each. I had no intention of buying them, particularly as our own Cathy Guetzlaff had offered to buy me the CDs from Electric Fetus in Minneapolis for $15 each. Then, last Thursday, I was poking around Olsson's (probably the best chain in the area) and found _Elemental_ and _To Drive the Cold Winter Away_ for $15.99. No copies of _Parallel Dreams_ though. The next day I was in another Olsson's and they, too, had the first two CDs. I dunno if Loreena has some new distribution deal, or perhaps she's run another pressing, but this is the first time I've seen Loreena in the DC area and this is after at least a year of looking (obviously, _The Visit_ is excepted) >since my sister >threatened me with bodily harm if I don't supply her with as much Loreena as >possible and that's her birthday. :} Sounds like my dad. Roughly every other day, I heard "Have you gotten me that CD yet?" (referring to _To Drive the Cold Winter Away_). He's since been quiet and happy. I'm kind of suprised that you didn't play anything from _TDtCWA_, which I think is much better than _Elemental_. Oh, _Elemental_ has its *moments* (particularly "Stolen Child" and "She Moved Through the Fair") but it also has its disasters ("Carrighfergus" and that other one with Cedric whats-his-face, which reminds me of "Organic Acid" because Loreena's part is so gorgeous and his part is so wretched). _TDtCWA_ is great all the way through, never mind the fact that it's "Christmas music." Of course, I'm from a long line of heathen-scum-Jews, so what I do I care about xmas? ;-) Jeff ======================================================================== Subject: Re: stuff Date: Mon, 18 Jan 93 00:57:26 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu kiri (who seems to no longer capitalize bits and pieces of her name) writes: >Also..we are going to Washington D.C. on valentines weekend - any >ectophiles that want to get together for lunch or otherwise let >me know - would like to get together with y'all if we can arrange >something. Ooh, sounds groovy. Count me in (at least tentatively; I may have a kiting even to attend one day that weekend, but I've no details on it and will happily plan around it). On a related note (I seem to say that a lot, don't I?) I'm going to try to arrange an Ecto gathering here in DC during the weekend of April 23-25, as I know that several ectophiles will be in town for the March on Washington for Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual Rights (or whatever the official title of MOW '93 is...;-) If any of y'all are going to be in town and are interested, let me know. Yes, I know that this is a whopping 3 months in advance, but lots of folks are making travel arrangements now, so I figured I'd throw this out to the group. Jeff ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 18 Jan 93 10:41:45 MEZ From: Dirk Kastens Subject: Re: Daily Digest? Hello, Vickie, I don't know if your reply also went to Ecto, but I want to clear a possible misunderstanding. >Hi, I think Jessica is on vacation and that someone else was >sending out Digest, but I know that occasionally Jess does >send out long digests herself so it's good that she knows >that everyone can't handle them. > >I'm sorry that my posts were responsible for the length of >at least one of the digests. I've stopped posting my stuff, >partially because I was shocked at the length of that digest. >(Not because of what you said though, don't worry.) I'm not complaining about long digests in general. I enjoy reading Ecto very much and I'm very interested in your posts, Vickie (those who are not interested can skip them). I don't mind if a daily digest has 1000 lines. The main problem IMO is, that the digests are not very actual at the moment. For example, the oldest message of the digest that arrived last Friday was from one week ago. That means, if someone asked a question, the digest readers can read it a week later and the reply will take another few days. A real discussion can't come up. RDT is sending daily digests, albeit a single message sometimes. If this is possible for Ecto, it would be great. Dirk ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1993 09:37 EST From: Sam Warren Subject: Eddi Reader You might be interested to know that Eddi Reader also appears on the new Thomas Dolby album "Astronauts and Heretics". She sings a jazzy kind of ballad with him called "Cruel". That's actually where I discovered her. Great voice! ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)