Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #391 ecto, Number 391 Wednesday, 6 January 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Congrats, Ms. Awry! Loreena on NE Northern exposure Re: Steam CD5 not much really... Single Moment, Single Days (poem) At Last, Inside (poem) Happy in Boston Tower ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 19:24:01 PST From: spotter@darwin.bio.uci.edu (Steve Potter) Subject: Congrats, Ms. Awry! That took a lot of guts, Vickie--I commend you for being so open. I have a couple more advices: Your self worth should be based on what you do, not what was done to you. I look forward to reading your posts every time I log on. I have learned about a lot of great music I didnt know about because of you. And I love _love_ *love* LOVE! the Femme tape mixes. So you have made a big difference in Skaludy's life, and you dont even know me. I imagine those who do know you appreciate you even more. As I mentioned, my Mom gets a lot out of group therapy. I think the group she joined was for "co-dependents", but it made her come to terms with sexual abuse she had been subjected to. From your exposee, I get the impression that it would help you a lot to be in touch with others who are in a similar situation, more so than it would to be in touch with an individual therapist who may or may not have a clue how you feel. So I say, find a group and join it. I know they are out there. Most of all, no matter how bad it gets, dont go to a psychiatrist. They are drug-mongers. (My family has had bad experiences with psychiatrists, and here at UCI I have sat through a number of talks from these folks that lead me to believe that they dont care about causes, only symptoms.) Your article was long enough for a first posting, for sure. But there were many stories that were "too complicated to explain". To put in my personal request for further elaboration, I would like to know about your running away from home. Just to let you know that at least I am interested... Skaludy ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 23:21:21 -0500 From: meth@aol.com ======================================================================== From: meth@aol.com Subject: Loreena on NE Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 23:21:42 EST Hi! Thanks, Jeff, for confirming that I'm not crazy (yet :), and that really was Loreena I heard at the end of Northern Exposure last night!!! I immediately logged on and tried to post a request for confirmation here, but every time I tried to send the message I got knocked off line (I HATE THIS MAILER!!!). It was a very good episode, imo- one of the best in a long time, even if one of the archeologists excavating Maggie's yard did mispronounce Amherst, which no graduate of Hampshire College would ever do... Vickie, I couldn't read all of your post because this @#!* mailer cuts off all mail at 8640 bytes, but I got enough. I really admire you for having the courage to post something like that to an open international mailing list. I have friends with similar stories, and they're all dealing quite well. It is possible- and you seem to be dealing well now yourself. Hey- Happy Twelfth Night! Meredith Tarr meth@aol.com (redefining snailmail) ======================================================================== From: Martin Dougiamas Subject: Northern Exposure Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:52:01 +0800 (WST) Vickie writes: > I'm sorry I missed Northern Exposure tonight. Thanks for the info Jeff. > Btw, Martin, has NExp begun in Australia and have you caught any shows > yet? Yes, it's up to the fifth episode now. I'v only caught about two of them, though... fate keeps intervening. I like it a fair amount, what I've seen of it... It's unconventional in subtle ways and I like the characters. My only problem with it is that I occasionally find it a bit too... American, I suppose. There's an element there that makes it difficult to get immersed in the show, something I didn't find with Twin Peaks, for example... It's hard to say what it is, exactly. But hell, I've only seen a couple of shows so far. An interesting thing: JJJ FM have taken to playing entire albums without any interruptions (except maybe some back-announcing at the end of each side)... they're playing about two or three of these every day this summer... 250 albums in total. Some of the albums are very interesting... and are things I would not have normally heard. Great idea. Martin "being flooded with new music" -- ,------------------------------------+--------------------------. _ . | Precious memories, how they linger | Martin Dougiamas. | ~ _/| Ll\ ~ | How they ever flood my soul | martin@cs.curtin.edu.au | |WA|_|__\ | In the stillness of the midnight | martin@dialix.oz.au | \. |_|_ / ~ | Precious sacred scenes unfold | Perth, Western Australia +-->-~ `-' `== Precious Memories - J.J. Cale ===+==========================' ~ V ~ ======================================================================== From: Martin Dougiamas Subject: Northern Exposure Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:52:01 +0800 (WST) Vickie writes: > I'm sorry I missed Northern Exposure tonight. Thanks for the info Jeff. > Btw, Martin, has NExp begun in Australia and have you caught any shows > yet? Yes, it's up to the fifth episode now. I'v only caught about two of them, though... fate keeps intervening. I like it a fair amount, what I've seen of it... It's unconventional in subtle ways and I like the characters. My only problem with it is that I occasionally find it a bit too... American, I suppose. There's an element there that makes it difficult to get immersed in the show, something I didn't find with Twin Peaks, for example... It's hard to say what it is, exactly. But hell, I've only seen a couple of shows so far. An interesting thing: JJJ FM have taken to playing entire albums without any interruptions (except maybe some back-announcing at the end of each side)... they're playing about two or three of these every day this summer... 250 albums in total. Some of the albums are very interesting... and are things I would not have normally heard. Great idea. Martin "being flooded with new music" -- ,------------------------------------+--------------------------. _ . | Precious memories, how they linger | Martin Dougiamas. | ~ _/| Ll\ ~ | How they ever flood my soul | martin@cs.curtin.edu.au | |WA|_|__\ | In the stillness of the midnight | martin@dialix.oz.au | \. |_|_ / ~ | Precious sacred scenes unfold | Perth, Western Australia +-->-~ `-' `== Precious Memories - J.J. Cale ===+==========================' ~ V ~ ======================================================================== From: boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Christopher Boek) Subject: Northern exposure Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 18:23:49 EST > From vickie@pilot.njin.net Tue Jan 5 17:29:12 1993 > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 1:21:23 EST > > I'm sorry I missed Northern Exposure tonight. Thanks for the info Jeff. > Btw, Martin, has NExp begun in Australia and have you caught any shows > yet? > NE is indeed here, and into about its sixth episode or so. I really like it. The characters are almost larger than life - and are really funny sometimes. I almost never knew about this show until I heard people talking about it on this group about 3 days before it started showing here! Coincidence ... ? Anyway I'm hooked and I'm taping them (I've stuffed a couple of them but not too badly). How long has it been going in the US ? i.e. Am I going to be destroying a budget trying to hang on to them all? It sounds like it's aged well too from what I hear here. I look forward to future episodes ... Chris. -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||Christopher Boek - boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | || Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | / "Anybody remotely interesting is mad in |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| \_/\_/\_/\_/\__/(:*- some way or another" ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 11:20:09 MEZ From: Dirk Kastens Subject: Re: Steam CD5 Hello everyone, and a belated Happy new year (I think my message got lost with the digest #385 :-( ) And, of course, belated happy birthdays to Karl, Marvin, Jeanne, and Vishal. Angelos wrote: > I know it's been a while since this issue came up, but since the CD5 came > out recently, let me point out that it contains: > > a) Steam (Lp version) > b) Games without frontiers (Massive/DB mix) > c) Steam (Oh, Oh, Let off steam mix 12") (6:40) > d) Steam (Oh, Oh, Let off steam mix dub) (5:42) A few weeks ago I told about a remix CD5 of Digging In The Dirt. Meanwhile I've listened to it and I must say that it's awful. A noisy, distorted trance rhythm with Peter's voice and the rest of the music mixed into the background. The remix is made by Raw Stylus, whoever this is, and it's an official release by Realworld/Virgin. I wonder how the Steam remixes are. Dirk ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 07:54:11 EST From: spideroni Subject: not much really... hi all... due to the opening of the woj motel (i've had friends staying over at the house since last thursday), i've not been able to post too much lately. but i did want to babble about a one album i've picked up recently. mae mckenna - forgot the title: hmmm. loreena lite? that's one way to describe this i suppose. a very uneven collection of music in the pop celtic vein ala loreena mckennit, but with a less-than-authentic take on the genre. mckenna has a nice, full voice which is fairly strong through- out, but the music varies between wonderful and atrocious, the former when she sticks closer to the celticist in her and the later when she ventures into less than traditional realms. it's not completely bad, but it's not worth buying unless it's cheap (which is unlikely, unless you buy it at one of her shows - she's apparantly invloved in the folk circuit, so it's possible to see her that way - which is how the friend of mine got the disc in the first place). um, i second love spirals downward. the cd will be on order as soon as i get the envelope in the mail, but if their tracks on _from across this grey land 3_ are any indication, vickie's acclaim for them is well-founded. poof! woj ======================================================================== From: shark@cs.ucla.edu (Jeanne B. Schreiter) Subject: Single Moment, Single Days (poem) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 9:15:40 PST :) :) A single moment for a sentimental day :) :) 1-4-1993 :) :) A single moment :) make that movement for a :) solitary sentimental day :) :) Our lips, inside, :) move like blooming blossoms :) orange groves of our childhoods :) :) I listen to you :) running on the ground :) your footprints :) imprinting :) carousels of prancing horses :) riding rough through the trees. :) :) Fruit hangs from my branches :) watching :) waiting for you to kiss me :) with your sweet red tongues and :) rose coloured lips. :) :) You smile and tears drops from my limbs, :) water that touches the clouds, :) I can see you in me :) living in that child. :) But she's so old you tell another. :) Maybe on the outside, I reply, :) but my fingers still touch :) the warmth, taking away the chill :) from a new year's cool revival. :) :) -JB Schreiter :) :) -- :) -- ======================================================================== From: shark@cs.ucla.edu (Jeanne B. Schreiter) Subject: At Last, Inside (poem) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 9:16:25 PST :) :) At last, Inside :) :) 1-4-1993 :) :) Thus marks an era :) the sounds few hear :) deaf are we :) Our lips move like eyes :) darting on our faces :) Seeing the sighs :) our Lips inside. :) :) JB Schreiter :) :) -- :) -- ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 08:40 PST From: scottz@gentoo.com (Scott Zimmerman) Subject: Hi! Hi! I am new to the mailing list, but I have been reading the ftp-able Digests for several months now. I figured it was about time I disengaged from lurk mode, so here I am! I first heard about Happy from Meredith over on GEnie. That was around March of last year. Soon after, I picked up Warpaint on CD. I liked it pretty well immediately, and it grew on me enough to become one of my favorite albums! I gave it airplay for the rest of the semester on my old AM radio show. No, no, I never received any calls from breathless listeners wondering who I was playing. Oh well! I've spotted the other 4 CD's just recently. Due to those darn money constraints, though, I've only picked up Ecto. This album is so dark and haunting... yet, uplifting. Beautifully morose. It's spent a whole lot of time in my CD player. I love it! I definitely prefer it to Warpaint. It's not necessarily a -better- album, but it's more -my- kind of album. I think I'll pick up Volume I next... Since I had read in one of the Digests that a local station, KKSF (San Francisco), was giving Happy a bit of airplay, last April or May I tried calling up to make a request. Apparently requests are impossible on that station since they put together their song schedule days in advance , but the DJ was nice enough to check out the master play list. "Waking Up" was on it. The surprising part of this conversation was when the DJ told me that the program director is from Albany and is a big fan of Happy's. Interesting, hmm? Bay Area Stores where I've seen recordings from Happy: Berkeley Tower, Concord Tower, Dublin Tower, and Leopold's and Rasputin's in Berkeley. WELL! I guess it's about time I post my shoe size, huh? I wear a 10 and a half. My sign is Virgo. I was born on a very appropriate day: -Labor Day- of 1972. (September 4th) Oh, Kevin Bartlett has written songs for Sesame Street, right? Is he related to Alison Bartlett, the actress who plays Gina on the same show? Scott ======================================================================== Subject: Happy in Boston Tower Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 21:40:21 EST From: Angelos Kyrlidis Following the flooding of gaffa with Happy discovery tales, I *have* to say that I am very pleased at the Boston Tower, because it *finally* carries Happy. This evening they had VII, Ecto and Warpaint!!! OK, she was in the _Underground_ section, and listed under H, but hey, they finally did it! Not to mention that her CDs were at the top of the rack and jumped at you! ;) Angelos 'All today just excuse for tomorrow, tomorrow just something to do...'-TRB ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)