24-Jan-92 20:36:38-GMT,15315;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01262; Fri, 24 Jan 92 15:18:18 EST Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00444; Fri, 24 Jan 92 15:18:15 EST Date: Fri, 24 Jan 92 15:18:15 EST Message-Id: <9201242018.AA00444@athos.rutgers.edu> Errors-To: owner-ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #127 ecto, Number 127 Friday, 24 January 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Some misc. Nothing to do with Happy, but I gotta brag a little! True colors interesting tidbit... miffs and a question martin's comments Mathilde Santing (none) ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 23 Jan 92 16:59:49 -0800 From: Michael G Peskura Subject: Some misc. > Vishal ... I believe the Patti Smith song is a new one. I don't > know anything about it though. I like it very much and I have never been > a follower of hers. Not from dislike, just from one-of-these-days-I'll-buy- > everything-and-really-get-to-know-this-artist-itis. Patti Smith (IHMO) has been one of the most important artists of recent times. I think 'Horses' is one of the greatest albums ever & I will *always* look forward to new music from her. But what do i know? She did the new song with her husband, Fred 'Sonic' Smith (of MC5 fame), and seems to be currently living in Detroit with more than one child. I'm just sorry she hasn't been more publicly active in recent years. > Kevin will be on national TV during the Olympics! Well, sort of. He's > performing (didn't write it) music for a commercial that will air during > the Speed Skating events. No details, other than that it's for Key Bank > .... > Imagine, fast forwarding to look for a *commercial*! That would be a first > for us! I'm NO sports fan, but i do enjoy the Olympics; WOW we'll have to watch out for this! > Oh, there is a thread in rec.music.misc about "Women in Music-Indie" Especially some interesting comments by Tim Kennedy of London about groups in the UK. Does anyone know about the availability of Curve recordings in the US of A? Mp ======================================================================== Subject: Nothing to do with Happy, but I gotta brag a little! From: "Mark C. Carroll" Date: Thu, 23 Jan 92 19:51:20 -0500 Hi guys! This has nothing at all to do with Happy, or with anything that really relates to this list in any way at all, but I just found out that I passed my preliminary exams (I'm a PhD student; now I'm a PhD candidate!), and I'm just running around like a lunatic, announcing it to the world! I passed! || Mark Craig Carroll: ||"I live to see my fondest dreams realized, || Univ of Delaware, Dept of CIS|| Of living under the sights and sounds of || Grad Student/Labstaff Hacker || the gifted, Who gave so much to me" || carroll@udel.edu || - _Feed_the_Fire_, Happy Rhodes ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 23 Jan 92 20:16:51 -0500 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: Re: Nothing to do with Happy, but I gotta brag a little! footahs and Happy thoughts to Mark, for running around like a lunatic! (and passing the preliminary exams is good too!) -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "i *am* a peapod" -- HR ======================================================================== Date: 23-JAN-1992 21:51:59.84 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: True colors Hi! Ah, thanks, Vickie, I'll get a tape out to you next week. Anything remarkably new in the second part, or is it the same song-and-maybe-message-for-Happy format? I cannot WAIT for the opportunity to get the first 4 on CD!!! I devoutly hope their loan doesn't go the way of my student loan, which is a saga in itself- suffice it to say I'm going to head home after finishing up with my mail and crawl under a rock with "Warpaint" on the headphones. I may never emerge again. My regards to the net. :P All this reassurance to Vickie that she has absolutely nothing to worry about got me thinking (always a dangerous thing :). I don't take your fear as an expectation that some of us are going to make it come true, Vickie- it's perfectly understandable. The neatest thing about this whole net-business is the fact that people get to meet others as they really are- it's really hard to hide yourself behind any sort of facade and hold it there. Almost impossible, in fact- people figure you out sometime. It's my belief and experience that the way folks are on the net are the way they are deep-down, and when you actually meet in person you can't help but be yourself, no matter how many masks you try to hide behind the rest of the time. I've always been one to express myself much better via the written word than vocally, but when I get together with net-friends I find myself babbling just as much as I do electronically, if not more. Electronic modes of communication are bringing more people together than anyone would have dreamed possible. The hearing-impaired are able to communicate with anyone and everyone, there are hardly any prejudices to get past (I don't think even God can spell ;), and people can get to know each other so easily and become so close without ever being in the same room with one another, that it truly boggles my mind. There are some out there who are able to have a "net-personality" that isn't their own, but the percentage, at least in my experience, is extremely low and in this case, I'd like to believe, negligible. When I met the Love-Hounds in London at the KonvenTion, it really brought home to me this concept of being among friends, when I'd never seen these people in person before in my life. I have a suspicion March 21st will be an even more positive experience. :) Counting down the days... *---------------------------------------------* | Meredith Tarr | | *** | | "Living in the gap between past and future" | | *** | | mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu | *---------------------------------------------* ======================================================================== Subject: interesting tidbit... Date: Thu, 23 Jan 92 22:46:36 EST From: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu And I quote: I believe it's this feeling of reintegration, arising from a field specializing in death, fear, and monstrosity, that makes the danse macabre so rewarding and magical...that, and the boundless ability of the human imagination to create endless dreamworlds and put them to work. It is a world which a fine poet such as Anne Sexton was able to use to "write herself sane." >From her poems expressing and delineating her descent into the maelstron of insanity, her own ability to cope with the world eventually returned, at least for awhile..... So does this sound reminiscent of anyone we know? Some of you may recogize the above quote; it's from Stephen King's exploration of the horror genre, _Danse Macabre_, which I started re-reading a day or two ago for lack of anything better in my room and a feeling of lazyness to strong to convince me to walk the 1/4 block down the street to the (admittedly small and uninteresting) public library. Of course, many of you may know the name Anne Sexton from another source (those of your who aren't lit fiends, that is...;-)--Peter Gabriel wrote a song to/for her called "Mercy Street", which to my mind is one of the most beautiful and haunting songs he or anybody else has written. Oh well. Just wanted to share...;-) Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Show what you are / Be strong, be true | | | Time for you to / Be who you are." | |jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu | --Happy Rhodes | ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 24 Jan 92 10:25 GMT From: Merow!! here is another personal to ALan... i missed your post about offering me Sarah Mc...but someone graciously kept me up to date on it..i WOULD be interested..thank you for offering!! i hope i didnt blonde this one up!!! again..sorry to use ECTO space... merow! COurt!! ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 24 Jan 92 09:19:24 -0500 From: hargieka@logic.camp.clarkson.edu (Nimue - Gwragedd Annwn) Subject: miffs and a question Is it me or does the illustrious ms. rosas seem to have pms/ms again?? Her cynicism and holier than thou attitude is 'oh so mildly irritating. Not normally allowing thoughts of vindictiveness to run rampant through my tired brain I can't seem to shake the notion that I will applaud the day when her callous disregard for human emotions bounces back on her in a big way. It's bizarre, but I just realized she only seems to really "bitch" at other womens posts...coincidence?? aww well sorry to waste space here, but I had to let the steam fly on a Happy note: Vickie or anyone: Do you know the address for the QEII in Albany?? Albany is set up in the most bizarre way so I would like to have some idea how to get there well before the show. :) kIrI "When pain no longer rips Kirstin Ann Hargie (kIrI) you might see me hargieka@craft.camp.clarkson.edu like a flickering flame iamecto@chinet.chi.il.us waving to you "Experience the other side" thru the crack in the wall" L.L. hApPy RhOdEs ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 23 Jan 92 13:34:52 -0500 From: Nimue - Gwragedd Annwn Subject: martin's comments Martin sayz: and some were WAY off....kIrI hmmmm wondering what you thought I sounded like...hahaha :) kIrI successfully annoying my aptmates by blasting Lene *evil grin* ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 24 Jan 92 10:21:43 EST From: justin@bond.crim.ca (Justin Bur) Subject: Mathilde Santing Vickie mentioned Mathilde Santing last time she posted a playlist... I don't know much about her; she's Dutch and must be rather popular in Benelux (all the record stores have a Mathilde Santing section under Pop, everyone I've talked to recognizes her name, and in June last year when I was in Amsterdam I missed her concert that was given two nights plus a third supplementary because I saw the posters only the next morning!!!). Absolutely no distribution outside Benelux that I've ever seen (where did Vickie and Sue find her records?), though I think WEA was distributing her internationally for a very short time several years ago. I first heard her on CBC's Brave New Waves, I think. This is what I have of hers: Mathilde Santing (Idiot Records, 1982, dist. WEA 240 951-2) lovely voice but absolutely intolerable "super automatic accompaniment" that completely ruins the album Water Under the Bridge (Megadisc, 1985, MDC 7986) this was the record Brave New Waves had; it's definitely my favorite. Most of the songs are written by Mathilde and Dennis Duchhart Out of This Dream (Megadisc, 1987, MDC 7930) mostly covers (Todd Rundgren, Bacharach & David, etc.). More typical of her work but less wonderful than WUTB... (A Third Side - Megadisc - I don't have it. Contains extra material recorded at the time of Out of This Dream.) Rituelen soundtrack (Megadisc, n.d. (1988?), MDC 5269) one song sung by Mathilde (Beauty of the Ritual) and some instrumental background music for a Dutch film Breast and Brow (Megadisc, 1989, MDC 7890) again mostly covers, but I like this better than OOTD. The whole album is wistful, sad but strong. The songs fit together so well as if they had been written as a set. I can imagine that listening to her sing these in concert would be entirely wonderful. Carried Away (Solid, 1991, 527.9005.20) Much brighter-sounding; very good, but I have a penchant for sad music... All but the first (mercifully out of print) are now distributed in Benelux by Play it Again Sam. justin ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 24 Jan 92 14:45:16 -0500 From: sae@cmpsci.suffolk.edu (Sam Alan Ezust) Here is a brief stuff(tm) post... I am going through all the digests I missed while I was travelling, and there is a lot to catch up on. Since I don't know how to use GNU-EMACS Rmail and I don't feel like rlogging in to mcgill all the time (where I know how to use the system) I am downloading everything to my PC and editing it here. What a pain. >From: N_HAYS@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au >Yeparoony, this is one great album... the songs I keep coming back for >are Small Blue Thing, Queen and the Soldier, and Do You Love Me?. >I wouldn't agree that "If So" is much like "Small Blue Thing", but then >"If So" is one of my favorite Happy songs. I think I was confused when I posted that msg (or maybe over-excited or something) because while I am absolutely wild about the song "If So" it is actually "ode" that reminded me of both SBT and Cocteau Twins Victorialand. Just to clarify. And since a thread started on "Ode" I guess I will throw my two sence worth: When I hear this song, I imagine someone telling me these words without really feeling that they are true sincerely, but just saying them to make me feel better. Each phrase is picked out from a different context, or a different experience, and thrown together in this one song. You never would hear all of them in one interaction with someone. The song is basically a compilation of all these euphamisms and cliches, but the message behind it, and the tone it is sung in, is the warmest most caring message that can ever be transmitted. The swishy guitars and high-chanting over it puts me into a hypnotic state, and the verses are far enough apart that I don't even connect them together when I am listening to them; it's almost like each verse comes on a different day, and in a different context. You know what I mean? ======================================================================== To join ecto, please send electronic mail to the following address: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu To have your thoughts included in the next issue, send mail to: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To subscribe to "Ecto", the printed fanzine, send $8 to: Ecto PO Box 11291 New Brunswick, NJ 08906 Ecto is issued 8 times/year, and will include photos and as much material from non-net members as we can get! Donations above the subscription cost are welcomed - all money goes to bringing you better issues! Your "humble pseudo-moderator" -- jessica (jessica@athos.rutgers.edu)