23-Jan-92 8:24:22-GMT,17861;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA28502; Thu, 23 Jan 92 01:04:52 EST Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09958; Thu, 23 Jan 92 01:04:37 EST Date: Thu, 23 Jan 92 01:04:37 EST Message-Id: <9201230604.AA09958@athos.rutgers.edu> Errors-To: owner-ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #123 ecto, Number 123 Thursday, 23 January 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* this is ANOTHER resend... Blue Polyester Cowboys Today's your birthday friend.... You folks are terrific! Ecto - Side A review A long Time Coming ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 21 Jan 92 20:22 GMT From: Merow!! Subject: this is ANOTHER resend... Date: Sat, 18 Jan 92 17:29 GMT From: Merow!! To: ECTO%EDU.RUTGERS.CS@UK.AC.EARN-RELAY my Ecto family brings me good luck!! i was wandering around Cardiff today minding my own business..popping into second hand book and record stored as usual..when what should i find?? Laurie Freelove _smells Like Truth_ for only 5 pounds!!! merow!!! i bought it on faith...but thats enough from you guys!!!!! Kiri..i also found a double release of Diamonda Galas..some live version or other...was it worth buying cuz i didnt!! sorry!!!! it COULD hang around for a while if you really think it worth me running ALLLLLLL the way back to Cardiff...either that or i could arrange something..i DO have connections!!! Michie..i also saw some T'Pau album..goddess guys!! why dont you jsut come visit me yourself and spare me the trouble of despairing all over ALL the things that i want to buy you!!!!! welp..thtas it for now..off to feed my Poptart craving..have NO idea where that came from!! but luckily there is a store in Cardiff that imports AMerican food...i got 2 boxes of Poptarts there for roughly $5.75... i know..i was desperate..sad isnt it what they do to exploit people!!! merow to all...off to enjoy Laurie!!! Court! ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 21 Jan 92 20:27 GMT From: Merow!! Jessica...would you please send me the digests for last SUnday..Monday.. and Tues..thats the 19th,20th, and 21st of Jan..ok?? since Internet has been down in a black hole..i havent gotten ANYTHING.. and all of my messages have bounced back at me SEVERAL times... so please..anyone who has sent me a message..p[lease resend it..ok??? this is really frustrating to me!!!! Kiri..hugs and sisterly love dear sis!!!! i know you are feeling "red" right now...hopefully my hugs will be mortar for the wall...i miss you!! please take care of yourself!!!!! thanx to everyone else...Stephen sent me a great tape..Tori Amos!!! anxiously awaiting other Ecto charity for the "poor" relation...god i am about to music starve!!! merow! thanx! Court! ======================================================================== From: Jeanne B Schreiter Subject: Blue Polyester Cowboys Date: Tue, 21 Jan 92 19:14:07 CST Greetings all! I'm sitting here in sunny southern California with Tom Johnson (another ecto -ite)..and the title is Blue Polyester Cowboys. Well I've never been to southern California before, and it's been the strangest of my life, well, maybe, maybe not. Yesterday tj@cs.ucla.edu (my host who is making me at home) and I gallopped off to Tijuana, Mexico. I just wanted to share a few of my reactions. 1) We, Americans, truly do have a good deal going in comparison to Mexico. 2) I went looking for shark articles, namely jewerly. When asked to explain "shark" to a local, "dum dum dum dum dum" usually did the trick, that is until someone finally told us the spansih name for "shark." 3) Not knowing the spanish word for shark was pretty helpful too. One woman didn't think I could speak english, ideally, I was scared shitless in Mexico, talked mainly with my hands and in german, forget the english, leave it at home, pretend you don't understand anything, use your fingers, point and speak gibberish, it works well. 4) As Tj and I cruised the streets, a burro on every block, people asking us if were newlyweds? (eh gads)..although we had thought about playing some nasty tricks with it.)..a salesman spoke in perfect english at one point "Same junk, cheaper prices." 5) One man 18 or 19 years old...pulled out a map and wanted to know exactly where Wisconsin was (I was most impressed..and) ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 21 Jan 92 18:54 CST From: vickie@chinet.chi.il.us (Vickie Ann Mapes) Subject: Today's your birthday friend.... Taking into consideration the time difference, it *is* Terry's birthday as I post this... i*i*i*i*i*i *************** ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* **** Terry Partis **** **********!!*********** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- A bit different this time, here's the list alphabetized. Abbott, Gray Tue May 3 1955 Suprised Baker, John Perry Tue March 24 1964 Berkeley Barger, Jorn Pez August 32 1953 Neon Blank-Edelman, David N. Sat September 9 1967 Neon Bloom, Brian Tue October 14 1969 Libra Bone, Chris Bossert, Gregory Tue January 9 1962 OfTheTimes Brown, Bob Thu March 22 1951 Ham Bur, Justin Fri November 27 1964 Sagittarius Burka, Jeff Thu April 24 1969 GoFlyAKite Burks, Doug Tue February 14 1956 Blank Carre, Geoff Sat March 20 1954 Pisces Carroll, Mark C. Fri July 29 1966 Hacker Casey, Sean Clifford, Laura Tue December 17 1957 Sagittarius Dallas, Courtney Fri July 9 1971 Cancer Dembski, Jessica Wed October 29 1969 Scorpio Dembski, Joe Wed May 7 1952 Rumple Dougiamas, Martin Wed August 20 1969 Positive Dougiamas, Katie Mon November 4 1974 Scorpio Ezust, Alan Fri November 21 1969 Homesick Fagg, Steve Tue May 13 1958 Taurus Foster, Harry Sat April 21 1956 NiceGuy Golden, Stephen "Jokey" Gregory, Brian Thu May 9 1963 Eclectic Guetzlaff, Cathy Mon July 18 1955 Cancer Hargie, Kirstin Fri March 13 1970 Pisces Hui, Michael Johnson, Tom Mon July 25 1966 Leo Kilmer, Henry Wed December 11 1968 Sagittarius Kluge, Klaus Sun April 10 1960 Widder Koehler, David July 25 Leo Kollmeyer, Bob Wed July 28 1971 Leo Kyrlidis, Angelos Fri April 22 1966 Taurus Liestman, Art Fri April 10 1953 Repeat Lubkin, David Fri June 20 1958 OurLady Lueck, Jeff Thu December 5 1968 Sagittarius Macskassy, Sofus Malman, Joel Mapes, Vickie Wed August 15 1956 Giddy Markandey, Vishal Nozick, Valerie Thu March 25 1971 Aries Palfreyman, Jim Partis, Terry Sun January 22 1933 Rocker Michael Peskura Sat July 9 1949 HallOfFamer Philipsen, Albert Mon June 17 1968 Gemini Pravatiner, Mitch Mon July 14 1952 Cancer Relph, John M. Sat July 28 1962 Leo Riley, Dan Sun October 8 1961 Libra Sachs, Hilary Sady, Gene Tue February 7 1956 Aquarius Schreiter, Jeanne Tue January 3 1967 Capricorn Segel, Daniel Tue August 31 1965 Virgo Semich, Mark Thu May 6 1965 Yield Sodoma, Alan Thu March 18 1965 LuckyLurker Somerstein, Rodney Spix, Claudia Wed November 23 1960 Schuetze Steiner, Dave Sat October 24 1959 Scorpio Tarr, Meredith Wed September 1 1971 Virgo Thomas, Stephen Fri February 4 1966 Aquarius Torok, Dave VanDevender, Steve Sun April 10 1966 Racer Veeneman, Steve Tue June 7 1951 Gemini Wauford, Gail Wheeler, John Woiccak, Rob (woj) Sun July 28 1968 Leo Wong, Barry Thu March 19 1970 Merlin Yli-Krekola, Perttu Thu June 2 1966 Kaksoset Yli-Krekola, Riikka Young, Michele Thu May 21 1970 Taurmini -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Vickie vickie@chinet.chi.il.us _________ |_ _ | _ Fuzzy Blue Wonderland "We're waking up |__|_ ||_| "There is a road straight yes it's good" to my heart" ======================================================================== From: vickie@chinet.chi.il.us (Vickie Ann Mapes) Subject: You folks are terrific! Date: Tue, 21 Jan 92 19:29:14 CST That's it, see the Subject line. Truly, truly wonderful! Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 21 Jan 92 20:19:06 -0500 From: Nimue - Gwragedd Annwn Subject: Ecto - Side A review A long Time Coming ECTO - Side A Ok here are the last of my reactions/impressions/feelings/etc. Although I guess I haven't done _Warpaint_ now that I think about it! :) The biggest thing I notice about Ecto is the addition of three new elements musically. I believe (i may be mistaken) that this is the first time she uses electric guitar, bass, and a drum machine. Obviously she has grown a bit, although I would say that it isn't so much growth as a need to embellish what is already there. Nevertheless another brilliant album. ---I'm Going Back--- This is a really odd song both musically and in meaning. Spooky keyboards mixed with a bizarre Happy voice. She sings "Im Going Back" but it is just as indecipherable as ectoplasm. This is one of those songs that you sit in your pitch black room and quiver too. As for meaning...I believe that she is singing in the voice of a ghost or perhaps as another person. "Im going back," but nothing is the same as it was. All the important things to her - her monsters and her cats are gone. The life that once filled the room is now shut away in a "stony keep" (coffin). It's a sad song. ---If Love Is A Game, I Win--- Bouncy keyboards with drum machine, cymbals. High Happy voices. The beginning of the song is a kind of happy frolic. It then moves into a more serious emotional medium Happy voice. The song shifts between these two moods. This song embodies the emotions and thoughts behind true love. It's kind of difficult to really say what it means. I almost think you have to know what she is feeling, for some of us that may be easy, for some that may be difficult. I wholeheartedly agree with her though "If this is where life begins, If love is a game i win." *contented mew* ---Would That I Could--- I have a hard time being objective about this song because it is so wonderful! Who would of thought that Shakespeare could make it to mainstream music? Except of course for Mental As Anythings song Sad Poetry Guitars and Medium/high Happy voices make up this beautiful song. It's obvious Happy is playing the Fairy. Why she wrote this song is beyond me - and what it means is beyond me too...I don't care though because it's brilliant :) "Would that i could" only care about nature and the simple things of servitude and love. hehe ---Off From Out From Under Me--- This is another song I cannot and never will be objective about, along with _Oh the Drears_ this is one of my ultra-favorite songs. Guitars, great bass, and keyboards form a brilliant knot of music. Medium to High voices. Simply brilliant, wonderful, excellent, awesome, etc. etc. I Love this song! The lyrics to the song remind me of another book - i can't remember the name. It was about a man who was "insane." In his reality there were little lights that would circle his head - much like those annoying little bugs that swarm in your head during the summer (biogeek aside: those little bugs use your head as a focal point, a kind of lighthouse, for mating). Anyway people tried and tried to make him "sane," but he continued to see the lights - sort of little creatures that glowed bouncing around his head and body. I can't recall if it was a psychologist or some outsider that befriended the man, eventually they saw the little lights too. I don't remember what happened after that.... Happy may be recalling something similar. A lot of people also describe ghosts or plasmas, and some ufo accounts as little entities that follow them around, and pester them. Some people claim that auras and the such can also be distracting if you are too sensitive. What she is talking about exactly in the song is unclear, but there has obviously been a shift of awareness. She knows he is insane, but is completely rational except for the entities at the beginning. Then she tries to help him rid him of the entities to only pick them up herself. This idea moves in a lot of different arenas. It seems to be the same notion as "medical student disease" or when you are around someone that says a particularly annoying phrase, and you start saying that say phrase...ya know...is a good example, ya know? I could psychoanalyze this song for ages but ill give it a rest for now :) ---Project 499--- Fast guitars, sounds like they are running. Medium/low Happy voices. At present I can completely empathize with the feelings in this song. To me this song is telling of that time when your feelings have taken over and then dumped you. It's hard to explain unless you have felt this. It's like you reach such an agitated state of shock, depression, etc. that your emotions turn off and you become numb, and you start wishing for a release of any kind especially death. The chorus states "oh baby please don't go/ im so tired and you're so right by my soul." Again with the agitation and numbness you feel tired, you just don't care what goes on around you, except the company of your pain. "im forever in hiding" "it's such a strain to find the strength withing" etc... ---I Won't Break Down--- Bouncy keyboards. Nice strong drum sounds in this song. The entire spectrum of Happy vocals but Medium/low range predominates. This is the perfect answer to the previous song. However I know it takes more than 4 seconds to come to the knowledge that "you have the strength of a million souls." "Through the years my eyes have cried" sheesh this must be my theme song!! I don't have much to say about this song, other than I agree with its premise that knowing yourself is required to _truly_ know others. ---If So--- Guitars, some keyboard fillers. Again the full range of Happy vocals. This song is beautiful. Very sad, which is kind of at odds with the aloofness she tries to irradiate from the lyrics. The lyrics arn't too difficult to interpret, and I would expect that anyone who has been thru a messy relationship would understand them. But, it's done in a tasteful, unique way. I really enjoy this song. --end of Side A >^kiri^< "you'll find me forever in hiding" Court sayz: Kiri..hugs and sisterly love dear sis!!!! i know you are feeling "red" right now...hopefully my hugs will be mortar for the wall...i miss you!! please take care of yourself!!!!! Dearest sister I don't know if your mortar can fix the gaping hole in my wall. This blow was just too big of a shock. Needless to say I can make it through the day now without finding a crystal rivulet flowing down the edge of my walls facade. At least I can be thankful that two holes weren't blown out, if that had happened I would've "ventured far beyond despair." Hugs. :_| kIrI ======================================================================== To join ecto, please send electronic mail to the following address: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu To have your thoughts included in the next issue, send mail to: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To subscribe to "Ecto", the printed fanzine, send $8 to: Ecto PO Box 11291 New Brunswick, NJ 08906 Ecto is issued 8 times/year, and will include photos and as much material from non-net members as we can get! Donations above the subscription cost are welcomed - all money goes to bringing you better issues! Your "humble pseudo-moderator" -- jessica (jessica@athos.rutgers.edu)