16-Jan-92 6:34:51-GMT,24915;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00597; Thu, 16 Jan 92 01:22:57 EST Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08286; Thu, 16 Jan 92 01:22:50 EST Date: Thu, 16 Jan 92 01:22:50 EST Message-Id: <9201160622.AA08286@athos.rutgers.edu> Errors-To: owner-ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #114 ecto, Number 114 Thursday, 16 January 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Court request Vickie where's my Ecto SIG tape? Gene--stop fretting! Getting ***T h e P a c k a g e*** and other stories eggs YEA! Re: T-shirts perttu and riikka :) ectotion A computer question To Bob Brown The Wonderful World of Ecto ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 11:34:23 -0800 From: Michael G Peskura Subject: Court request Well, Ms. Dallas, allow me! I'll make you a tape of the two Innocence Mission CDs i have. And one from the Lene Lovich vinyl in my collection. Keep watching the skies. Cheers, Mp mpeskura@cac.washington.edu 9 July 1949 A.D. ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 15:28:39 -0500 From: Nimue - Gwragedd Annwn Court: Yes, ill be sending some tapes eventually....Im not sure what yet - but it will be something neat im sure. Don't fret so sis! kIrI ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 13:04:45 PST From: gsady@gaffa.intel.com (Gene Sady ~) Subject: Vickie where's my Ecto SIG tape? Vickie, I tried to reach you with direct mail, but got no response. Now at the risk of embarassing you in front of all ecto-files, I thought that I would try to find out why I never got an Ecto SIG tape from you. I have seen many messages lately about the HGP, but never heard anything of the SIG tape. I've found old mail about who sent tapes to you and my name is on the list. So...please let me know what's the hap's. I can't believe I have been reading this mailing list for about 4 months and still have not ever heard a Happy Rhodes song yet! How sad. Anxiously awaiting your reply. Sorry for complaining "publicly". Gene Sady gsady@gaffa.intel.com - Intel Corporation - Folsom, CA "I wish I could write you a melody so plain It could hold you, dear lady, from going insane It could ease you and cool you and cease the pain Of your useless and pointless knowledge." - Bob Dylan ======================================================================== Subject: Gene--stop fretting! Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 16:34:37 EST From: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu Actually, Gene, *nobody* has received the Ecto SiG yet; Vickie kept putting it off for various reasons (all very good reasons, such as waiting to get a copy of the XPN interview for inclusion!) and then stopping work on that in order to work on the HGP Now that the HGP is in the mail (or mostly...), I imagine we'll be seeing the Ecto SiG fairly soon. I must admit to a bit of curiosity--how could you read this for four months and not order a tape or CD by now??? Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Show what you are / Be strong, be true | | | Time for you to / Be who you are." | |jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu | --Happy Rhodes | ======================================================================== Date: 15 January 1992 13:58:53 CST From: Subject: Getting ***T h e P a c k a g e*** and other stories I may well be the first of us to actually take delivery on my HGP tapes, they having arrived yesterday postmarked the day before. They were so beauti- fully wrapped, I actually had pangs about unwrapping them. On the other hand, if negating all of Vickie's handiwork is the price of actually getting at the music, so be it. The dark blue string against the light blue tissue paper is a nice visual effect, and a pleasing counterpoint of colors in its own right. Sometimes I wish I'd had a means of photographing it (in color, of course). Vickie deserves great kudos for the packaging job. I made a point of getting my large headphones out when I listened to the compilation, in the "quiet hours" between approximately 12:30 and 4:30 AM last night or this morning, depending on your point of view. You are all in for what, in the toy and novelty industry, they call "hours of fun." No need to give you a knock-for-knock here--you'll find it out for yourselves soon enough. Suffice it to say that the eclecticism of our joint and several music- al tastes is a joy to behold, and I hope that everyone else gets the same amoun t of pleasure from my contributions to the cause as I did from theirs. Steve Fagg's expoundings on the tribulations of recording an opening monologue for one's selection had me smiling knowingly. To me, at least, the differences in quality between the intros for my two selections reflect the differing circumstances under which they were recorded. The first one I recor- ded at about 4 AM (not to be confused with 4 AD :-) ), after I had spent some time pondering what to say. Deciding that there was too much risk of flubs if I winged it, I quickly wrote it down. When it came time to try putting it on tape, I took a couple of swallows of vodka from an airline-sized bottle I'd bought a couple of months before for the principal purpose of getting change for the bus, and tried a couple of run-throughs. When I was satisfied that I sounded both reasonably articulate and reasonably natural, I connected the mike to my recording walkman, took another hit of the grain neutral, and tried to remain calm as I read from my quickly created script. It may or may not have been a near-perfect take; I soon discovered that in my haste, etc., I had plugged the mike into the headphone jack (I made a point of leaving the phones off when recording, to eliminate the risk of feedback), so that nothing was actually recorded. I quickly fixed the glitch, and went through it all again, in the hope that speed would reduce the risk that introspection would freeze me in my tracks. The second take, if not necessarily perfect, was nonetheless gratifyingly good in its own right. I played it back again and again, amazed at the pleasure I was suddenly taking in hearing myself talk. Contrast this with my experiences in hammering out the other intro. I re- corded it on the morning of Vickie's party, not too long before I would have to set out for the latter. I had gotten limited sleep the night before (cf. my exercise in gonzo journalism in these pages a week ago), and so got off to a slow start cobbling together a script. (I had toyed with the idea of ad-libbin g, but thought better of it when I had to strain to remember what had come to me so spontaneously in the shower a little while before.) In the crush of things needing to be done, I forgot to dig out my liquor; when I finally remem- bered it, there was insufficient time, in my judgment, to bother with it; so I ended up trying to keep my mouth from drying out with plain water while I tried to keep my generalized anxiety at a managable level. The first take clearly sounded rushed, so I went for a second. I don't remember if the second take wa s one of those where the mike was in the phone jack; there were quite a few of those. Eventually I came up with one that sounded fairly passable, but I was convinced that I could do even better. Naturally, I did worse on the next iteration. Ultimately, I hit on one that I felt I could live with if I had to. I played briefly with the idea of trying again, but decided that it was unlikel y to get better, and could well actually get worse over time. The rest, to par aphrase someone we all know, is warpaint :-). The ultimate moral of this lugubrious narrative: If you think you sound weird on the final compilation, you are not alone. To change the subject at last: I have responded under separate cover to concerns expressed in these pages by Woj and Court, and have expressed another concern _de novo_ to Jessica. Watch your virtual readers, you three. Regardin g Woj, Jessica and the rest of our Jersey friends, may I suggest in addition th at we all stand by them in their hour of being hindered in their free access to caesar salad, soft boiled eggs, etc. (cf. Charles Osgood's column in today's _Chicago Sun-Times_.) On the other hand, it does give me an idea for an offici al fast-food breakfast sandwich for our operation; in commemoration of what Big Government is inflicting on some of our number, it shall have the working title of the ECTOVEREASY. Mitch Pravatiner ______________________________________ "Eggheads of the world unite. You have nothing to lose but your yolks." --Adlai Stevenson "There is a thin line between genius and insanity, and I have erased that line. " --Oscar Levant ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 17:04:16 EST From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: eggs mitch, don't remind me!!!! my *favorite* meal lately has been the caesar salad from church st. trattoria here in new brunswick. monday night I had a lovely salad there, last night I went in again for another salad, only to be told "we can't serve that anymore" We'd discussed it in the car on the way over, and were all hoping that restaurants might ignore it for a while, at least. why can't they just make a law that if a dish contians raw egg, that there be a warning on the menu? that itself seems kind of silly. outlawing the serving of raw eggs is just ridiculous, imho!!!!!!! jessica ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 17:09:59 -0500 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: Re: Getting ***T h e P a c k a g e*** and other stories alas, forewarned as i was by the news from jessica that indeed, between monady night and last, caesar salads had been confiscated from her favorite caesar salad serving site (someday soon, i'll hurt myself alliterating like that), i was so stunned by the erudititudinal style of Mitch's account of recording the intro for his HGP submission i was totally unprepared for the devestating stroke (or no, it's salmonella, though eggs are hard, as it were, on the old arteries) of: > ECTOVEREASY which is to say, ouch! footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "boomdidiwana-didwanahigh-high-high-high-high-sagaminitoo" ======================================================================== Subject: YEA! Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 18:12:33 EST From: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu IT'S HERE!!!!! Well, okay, only tape 1, but I'll get another tape to Vickie eventually, I'm sure. Wow. Just like a radio show but completely different. As Mitch has stated, there's no point in hashing things over when y'all are to find out on your own soon enough. Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Show what you are / Be strong, be true | | | Time for you to / Be who you are." | |jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu | --Happy Rhodes | ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 18:52:23 EST From: jessica Subject: Re: T-shirts claudia said: > I can't wait to see the other one (the -Zine one)! Hm, maybe for a > drawing ordinary white ones would be the best background. And the printing > in dark blue? mm i like that idea - definitely blue ink :) Probabaly would look best on white.. jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 19:04:14 EST From: jessica Subject: perttu and riikka :) I've got your names right finally!!! :) Sorry bout that :) jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 20:04:56 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu Subject: ectotion vickie@chinet.chi.il.us (Vickie Ann Mapes) sez: [re hgp] >Fuzzied up and ferried to the Post Office this early afternoon... >woj-Pt.1 am i supposed to send a second tape for part 2? i forgot what you said about that...brain slippage. ask greg - we don't sleep and that tends to have detrimental effects on things like memory and functionality. [re rainbirds] >I've been listening to _Two Faces_ and I think I might just like it a >bit better than the others, though I like them quite a bit! i was in germany just before this was released and everybody that i talked to said that they were expecting _two faces_ to be a step down. no one felt that ulrike (why did i think ute? see the paragraph above - no sleep) would be able to "take the place of the band". well, like i said before, she changed the sound of the music enough that the two flavors of rainbirds are not comparable. except on the basis of taste that is. anyways, i was pleasantly surprised when i did get it cos my expectations were low and the product was quite good. i particularly like "big fat cat", "invisible" and "real". [re blueprint] >I have a video to that song, have you ever seen it? nope. no teevee. but i gotta vcr. determined that it is possible to connect my computer monitor to the vcr. pipe the sound into the stereo and wallah! insta-video! KaTe in green and black (monochrome, kids...) is way weird. [re noirin ni riain] >> titles include: >> good people all #7.99 >> caoineadh na maighdine #7.99 >> vox de nube #8.99 >Wait, you say "include" and does that mean that they listed, but you didn't >type in, the album _Stor Ahmran_? no, it means that that is all that was on the flyer. i was wondering the same thing as i recalled that more than three releases had been mentioned by either you or chip (oops! i slept too much!). when i send noirin some money, i shall ask her about it. i hope it's available. pettru (did i spell that right? apologies...your name is not in front of me right now) asked me in a letter if those were irish or british pounds. my guess is that they are irish (i'm glad he asked cos it never occured to me that there was a difference - which makes perfect sense since ireland is (mostly) not part of britain anymore - color me tired). kIri sez: >Vickie: Yes, I am Lene "Demon Driver" Snow....:) heee! did i ever tell the jane sibbery blizzard story? i might have over on the siberry list, but that was long ago when it was active (well, it still is, but it's rather silent now). *any*ways, i was driving back to potsdam through the adirondacks from new jersey one night a few years ago. when i left jersey, it had just started to rain and it was the second week in january. by the time i reached albany, it was snow and, driving a small chevy sprint (borrowed, not mine - i drive a cavalier!), i was all over the road when trucks and large vehicles pased me. when i got to warrensburg (the exit on the northway that you turn off and head into the mountains from), it was a blizzard. i had only one tape with me: jane siberry's _speckless sky_/_no borders here_. which i played over and over again to keep myself awake and on the road. actually, driving on hard- packed snow isn't that hard - but it is very eerie when your entire world coalesces into the beams of your headlights. jane's music only increased the eerieness of the mood. so now, as soon as the first strains of "one more colour" pipe through the speakers, i always get drawn back to a cold, lonely drive through a deep blackness that i thought would never end. Merow!! sez: >ok..ECTO challenge here....this is a distress call... >I am about to die of music starvation over here!!!! hhhhhmmmmmmm...i pick up the glove and hold it lightly between my fingers. this is gonna be *fun*. woj ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: A computer question Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 20:35:12 EST Hi, I have just finished my Happy songbook on the Mac, and I was wondering if it is possible to get Mac Word to write Postscript to a file, for future ftp... I know this is probably a stupid question, but I've never done this before. And our apple printer was stolen yesterday, so I have to use another printer... Angelos ======================================================================== From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) Subject: To Bob Brown Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 4:19:02 CST Ooof, soorry, but I am getting messages from Bob, and he's not getting my answer, which is...SURE! (312) 508-5283 evenings to discuss it. Vickie ======================================================================== From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) Subject: The Wonderful World of Ecto Date: Wed, 15 Jan 92 12:48:44 CST Vickie here. Contrary to popular opinion, I am not a list-hound, but I do sometimes find them fascinating, so here's another...... *'s signify no address for, just guessing based on posts or e-dress. Those with *'s can, if they choose, give me their address for my mailing list (Happy & Kevin's mailing list actually, but I keep a Master Ectophile list for them too, that won't get lost in all their other addresses. This Ectophile list becomes more and more important as people buy the CD in stores, see the AG address, and write to H&K. They can't always keep separate who is an Ectophile and who is not. So, if you choose, give me your address even if you've written to Happy directly. Again, this list is confidential, um, even though your city, state or country aren't, as seen below.) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF ECTO +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Swansea, Wales........................Courtney Dallas (also Knoxville, TN) Cantebury, Kent, England..............Stephen Thomas Faversham, Kent England...............Terry Partis Harlow, Essex, England................Steve Fagg Berkhout, The Netherlands.............Albert Philipsen Tampere, Finland......................Perttu Yli-Krekola Lapland, Finland......................Riikka Yli-Krekola * Wuppertal, Germany....................Klaus Kluge Wuppertal, Germany....................Claudia Spix Harare, Zimbabwe, Africa..............S. Alan Ezust (also Boston, MA) Balcatta, Western Australia...........Martin Dougiamas South Arm, Tasmania, Australia........Jim Palfreyman Coquitlam, BC, Canada.................Art Liestman St-Laurent, Quebec, Canada............Justin Bur St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada......Geoff Carre Toronto, Ontario, Canada..............Michael Hui * USA El Cerrito, CA........................John Perry Baker El Segundo, CA........................Tom Johnson Los Altos, CA.........................John Relph Menlo Park, CA........................Dan Segel Placerville, CA.......................Gene Sady Stanford, CA..........................David Koehler Sunnyvale, CA.........................Brian Gregory Eugene, OR............................Steve VanDevender Seattle, WA...........................Michael Peskura * Fort Collins, CO......................Doug Burks Austin, TX............................Brian Bloom Dallas, TX............................Vishal Markandey Richardson, TX........................Harry Foster Manchester, MO........................Bob Kollmeyer Eagan, MN.............................Chris Bone Eagan, MN.............................Cathy Guetzlaff South Milwaukee, WI...................Jeanne B. Schreiter Carpentersville, IL...................Steve Veeneman Chicago, IL...........................Jorn Barger Chicago, IL...........................Jeff "Chip" Lueck Chicago, IL...........................Vickie Mapes Chicago, IL...........................Chris Williams Chigago, IL...........................Mitch Pravatiner Knoxville, TN.........................Gail Wauford Knoxville, TN.........................Hilary Sachs * SomewhereIn, KY.......................Sean Casey * Washington, DC........................Jeff Burka Frederick, MD.........................Henry Kilmer Newark, DE............................Mark C. Carroll Philadelphia, PA......................Bob Brown * Philadelphia, PA......................Stephen "Jokey" Golden * Morristown, NJ........................Rob Woiccak (woj) Plainsboro, NJ........................Jessica Dembski Plainsboro, NJ........................Joe Dembski River Edge, NJ........................Barry Wong SomewhereIn, NJ.......................Sofus Macskassy * Somerset, NJ..........................Dave Steiner Ithaca, NY............................Dan Riley Potsdam, NY...........................Kirstin Hargie (also Wilmette, IL) Rochester, NY.........................Alan Sodoma SomewhereIn, NY.......................Dave Torok * Etna, NH..............................Gray Abbott Nashua, NH............................David Lubkin Belmont, MA...........................Greg Bossert Boston, MA ...........................Mark Semich Cambridge, MA.........................David Blank-Edelman Cambridge, MA.........................Angelos Kyrlidis Cambridge, MA.........................John Wheeler Concord, MA...........................Joel Malman Malden, MA............................Laura Clifford SomewhereIn, USA......................Rodney Somerstein * SomewhereIn, USA......................Michele Young * ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Brian Gregory, there's no star by your name, but I don't have your address, so send it along if you want to. Boo Hoo, we lost a few members, that's why we never seem to go over 70 Ectophiles even though we have new members too. Bye and farewell to Larry Hernandez (pardon me while I melt in a puddle of tears..losing him hurt *bad* :-( :-( :-( :-( ) and bye to Dan the St.Paul man (I *knew* I shouldn't have called him Bill or whatever it was I called him that wasn't his name. No, I don't blame myself, but I feel bad that one of the last posts he might have seen was me getting his name wrong) and bye to Tara, the Jane Siberry fan, and bye to Jim Flynn, the newbie with the troublesome VAX who had such a wonderful sense of humor. . . , (teardrops falling) Vickie ps, I *know* I shouldn't take people leaving Ecto so hard, but it does spark my depression synapses and there's nothing I can do about it. This is just the first time I've posted my feelings. Mainly because of Larry. He was the first Love-Hound to buy Happy's music on my recommendation and I can't help but feel sad. He said it's because the volume is too much for his small account, so I can't *argue* him into staying. All I can do is boohoo a little and cry on y'all's shoulders. Thanks for letting me. ======================================================================== To join ecto, please send electronic mail to the following address: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu To have your thoughts included in the next issue, send mail to: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To subscribe to "Ecto", the printed fanzine, send $8 to: Ecto PO Box 11291 New Brunswick, NJ 08906 Ecto is issued 8 times/year, and will include photos and as much material from non-net members as we can get! Donations above the subscription cost are welcomed - all money goes to bringing you better issues! Your "humble pseudo-moderator" -- jessica (jessica@athos.rutgers.edu)