14-Jan-92 5:10:35-GMT,17808;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04339; Mon, 13 Jan 92 23:59:37 EST Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA02140; Mon, 13 Jan 92 23:59:34 EST Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 23:59:34 EST Message-Id: <9201140459.AA02140@athos.rutgers.edu> Errors-To: owner-ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #109 ecto, Number 109 Monday, 13 January 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Fluency, nerves, &c. (a bit long) hi y'all! New Cassette Review On Net T-shirts more ecto t notes. Ticket Prices ectocracy Concert promotion and stuff... ======================================================================== From: Steve Fagg Subject: Fluency, nerves, &c. (a bit long) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 18:31:18 BST Vickie's perfectionist comments about not being 100% happy with her voice on the HGP tape and a couple of recent messages about stage fright and its possibly being necessary in order to give a good performance struck a chord with me. I found it impossible to satisfactorily ad-lib a message to Happy for the HGP. There was obviously only a limited amount of time it would have been reasonable to take up and I didn't want to forget anything I felt it was important to say. So I ended up writing out what I wanted to say and reading it out onto the tape. The end result sounds, as you'll all soon hear, dreadfully stilted and unnatural. However, in some situations I have no problem with ad-libbing and having the results sound (IMO) pretty good. When I was at college I spent much more time than I should playing at being a DJ on the campus radio station. (btw: such stations are nothing like what I understand "college" radio to be in the US). All my shows were done live with no script and sometimes even the playlist was made up (or at least re-arranged) as I went along. No problem, plenty of words, coherent English, and a delivery which (while a bit different from my normal speaking voice) I for one quite enjoyed hearing on the fairly few times I got to listed to off-air dubs (narcissistic bugger ain't I? (love parentheses too!)). It's the same when giving presentations at work. As long as I feel I have a sufficient understanding of the material to be presented, then I'll knock out a set of viewgraphs and give an ad-lib talk at the drop of a hat. Mind you, if I have to give the same presentation more than two or three times then the performance very rapidly gets very bad, particularly if by then I've lost interest in the material. Then I have to resort to writing out a script and more or less just sticking to that. But I don't recall that I've ever suffered from stage fright. At least not the kind of debilitating, almost panicy, dread that I've heard and read described. What I do get though is a big buzz of adrenaline (or something, I gave up biology at age 14) and the old heart starts banging away in anticipation, but it's not unpleasant - in fact I love it! It's preceisely when that's missing (i.e. the material's boring, or I'm just reading from a script into a tape recorder) that the delivery gets flat and monotonous and a pain to listen to. I'd like to know how musicians and actors and dancers and the like can give good performances of the same thing time after time after time, always the same. I know they can, I've experienced it from the receiving end. Perhaps that's the secret of being a *real* performer! Actually I'm far more likely to get the conventional sort of stage fright before meeting new people face to face. I'm definitely the kind of guy who walks around the block a couple of times before plucking up enough courage to go into a party. And I hate calling people I don't know on the telephone for the first time. So what is all the above rambling trying to say? I think what I mean is that what is sometimes called stage fright is, IMO, a good thing as far as helping make a performance good, but it needn't necessarily be an unpleasant experience. It doesn't have to mean throwing up in the wings, as it were! -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-429531 Ext 2437 ESN-742-2437) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 14:52:56 -0500 From: sae@cmpsci.suffolk.edu (Sam Alan Ezust) Subject: hi y'all! I am finally in Boston. My plane was delayed by 14 hours which resulted in my spending a day in London which was not planned. However, British Airways put me up in the Exelsior Hotel in Heathrow,which was nice. I got home to find my autographed CD of Warpaint as well as a letter from her... Wow. I got all misty-eyed when I read it (not that it said anything profound, but just the fact that it was actually from her made me feel so good!). And so I am listening to the cd on a decent stereo for the first time. Things are pretty busy for me this week, but next week I hope to look up some of the fellow bostonians and maybe we can have another get-together like the one that happened over christmas -ciao all! Alan Ezust ======================================================================== Date: 13 January 1992 15:47:52 CST From: Subject: New Cassette Review On Net The following was posted recently on several music newsgroups. Seems to me like the kind of pipeline we should endeavor to get Happy's records into. Mitch Pravatiner =============================================================================== Xref: casbah.acns.nwu.edu rec.music.misc:34511 rec.music.afro-latin: 480 rec.music.bluenote:6260 rec.music.christian:3971 rec.music.folk:5686 Path: uicvm.uic.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu! think.com!spool.mu.edu!agate!stanford.edu!Csli!glad From: glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad) Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.afro-latin,rec.music.bluenote, rec.music.christian,rec.music.country-western,rec.music.folk Subject: Call for Cassettes Message-ID: <1992Jan9.164006.29298@Csli.Stanford.EDU> Date: 9 Jan 92 16:40:06 GMT Article-I.D.: Csli.1992Jan9.164006.29298 Followup-To: rec.music.misc Organization: Stanford University CSLI Lines: 22 This is a one-time call for reviews and notices of independently-produced cassettes. I will be periodically posting a summary of the cassettes reviewed on rec.music.reviews and any others that I'm made aware of. If you are a producer of such cassettes or simply know of some good ones please mail me the pertinent information (e.g. title, artist, availability, running time, description of the music, etc.). Ideally, all of these will be reviewed in rec.music.reviews and I can cull the information from that source. If you want some exposure for your own cassette send me the information directly and I'll include it in the post and try to find a reviewer. The post will be made only to rec.music.misc. If you are unable to read this group but would like to receive the information contact me and we can try to work something out. -- Clay glad@csli.stanford.edu glad@unix.sri.com ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 17:11:15 EST From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: T-shirts Hello! I'm sorry I've been so quiet lately - i'm teribly busy as usual, but things are good :) I just got back from the T-shirt place. I want to get people's opinions on a few things. Right now, the plan is this: A Hanes 100% Cotton Tshirt, royal blue. On the front, in black, light blue (slightly darker than baby-light-blue, closer to turquoise in brightness/boldness/darkness, but sticking with blue as opposed to blue-green), and very light grey is the version of ecto I made up a while back - three solid block colors. (If you haven't looked at it, it's in the archives as ~ftp/pub/hr/gifs/ecto.pg.gif) (pg for purple-grey. I can't seem yet to make a picture with blue. I'm working on it :) Beneath the picture is "Happy Rhodes" in Times italic in the same very light grey. On the back is "I'll be here / I'll be ecto" in the same grey. something like: Front: Back: --------- ---------- --------- ---------- | \_____/ | | \_____/ | | | | | ------ ------ ------ ------ | | | | | ##%%%XXXX%%# | | | | ##%#%X#%X%X# | | I'll be here | | ##%##XX%#X%% | | I'll be ecto | | ##%%%%X%#%X% | | | | Happy Rhodes | | | | | | | ---------------- ---------------- (yeah, imagine #=black, %=light blue, X=light grey, and you still won't have a clue what that is :) So anyway, the real questions are: Do people like the layout/idea? If so, is a royal blue shirt ok? I figure it's got to be blue :) but the question is, light or dark? with a light blue shirt, we'd go with a darker blue ink and have the text in the dark blue or black - the black would stand out better on a blue shirt, but i personally like colored lettering.. The shirts will be about $10 (total bill is $238 for 24 shirts). Does that sound reasonable? jessica ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 18:11:23 EST From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: more ecto t notes. Angelos sent me a response that led to more things to mention from me :) one is: the Tshirts will be ready on the 27th - if you send me money before then, you'll get them within a few days after. I'm not sure how much shipping will be yet. I'm willing to ship them anywhere, of course. I imagine the $2.90 priority mail paks might be good - that would make the total cost be $12.90. Make checks payable to "Ecto". Any additional money (donations! :):) from T-shirt orders will go into the ecto account as money for the next T-shirt batch specifically. Which leads me to the next thing angelos mentioned. Happy sent me a drawing she made that I'm going to use as the logo fo rthe Ectozine. It's a pen and ink drawing of the ecto monster, his hair grows out into the letters "ecto". It's really cool. That'll be the next "ecto" T-shirt. (they'll be a little cheaper, the current t-shirt is 3 colors, and has print on the back, thus it's 4 screens. each additional screen is $15 more for the screen and some additional charge (i forget exaclty, less than $5 i tihnk) for the ink. (paint?) In fact, the "ecto" drawing will become the official "ectozine" T-shirt. But the current T-shirt is for Ectophiles to wear in large bunches (large bunches of ectophiles that is!!! :) to the concerts! We'll stand out as fuzzy blue groups of people, I hope :) jessica ======================================================================== Date: 13 Jan 92 18:29:17 EST From: Bob Brown <74756.1557@compuserve.com> Subject: Ticket Prices Yes, Angelos, I think I can see your point of view. I didn't realize that only 3,000 copies of Warpaint had been sold. I thought that Happy had a bigger audience than that. Geesh...what do we gotta do to correct that? I think I'm gonna keep a look out for how well this fellow that is promoting this show. So far, I have not heard any announcement locally, either on the radio or in the paper. When I talked to the promoter last Saturday he sounded "amateurish", but who am I to judge. Maybe Vickie can fill us in on any details she finds out about the promotion etc. Nice to meet you here Angelos. Hopefully we'll all get together on that Saturday afternoon for some kind of pre-concert gathering. BTW, I made reservations today for a March 25th performance by Patty Larkin in Bethlehem, PA. The venue seats *only* 100 people and tickets are $8.50. I was surprised at the *low* ticket price :-) See ya - Bob Brown ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 20:21:10 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu Subject: ectocracy vickie@chinet.chi.il.us (Vickie Ann Mapes) sez: >I will also ask about the cameras and video. It *SHOULD* be recorded so I'm >terrified that they'll say no. well, i have an excellent dubbing walkman, which i will have with me at the show. as long as happy doesn't care, i will record the show and dub copies for any ectophiles who wish copies (or perhaps make a send-around tape if too many people ask me for dubs). normally, i am not too scrupu- lous about who i dub and whether or not the artist cares, but i think i can make an exception in this case. >If the venue >says "yes, if we have written permission from the band" we'll have to get >that done, again, assuming that it's ok with H&K and you better *believe* >that I'll bug them, and make our wishes known. :-) of course, it would be really nice if they decided to record it to dat or something like that and release a live album or some such thing. :) i tend to doubt that that will happen though (the live album that is - i would be surprised if they *didn't* record it to dat or some such medium). >Oh, woj (uh, I hope you didn't mind me using your Jeff-Can't-Believe-It >name) Big Hat has a cassette called "Hat Head" thanks - i do have an address with the insert (i only got a cassette - the cds are not ready yet far as i know - not surprising since the release date is sometime in february). for those of you interested, it is: mad millinery 5602 n.ridge section x chicago, il 60660 no idea about prices or such, but i'll be writing them a letter including a copy of my review (which i have to write tonight since the deadline is this evening!), so i'll ask about it and post if/when they reply. which reminds me: still no word from noirin. mitch, what was your address again? i think i'll take you up on your offer to dub the winter solstice concert... and yes, i can deal with people calling me rob. happens a lot at work... :) >If you post a track listing for Shimmer first, erotomania/jesus/red line/pluck song/flower/you lied/limosine/leaning into western skies/glossolalia/seaside/skin/when did you stop?/garden of edith/ seaside (vortex mix) >One of the posts I just sent out (the Happy mentions in news.groups and >gaffa) just came back to me, bounced back with "User unknown" messages >from Cathy Guetzlaff, Courtney Dallas, Stephen Thomas and Terry Partis. >How odd that so many bounced in such a way at once. there has been some troubles at the nsfnet-janet gateway. this gateway serves all the traffic (well, most of it anyways) that goes from the uk to the nsf- net (a large part of the american internet). the machines are overworked and often when the queue builds up (or they just downright go down), a lot of mail to the uk gets bounced. no need to fret. woj ======================================================================== From: golden@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Stephen "Jokey" Golden) Subject: Concert promotion and stuff... Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 20:44:13 EST Hello! I just joined this group today...and thus, my first post follows! I just read the recent talks of how to promote Happy better, and I have no brilliant ideas. However, I am the public relations director for University Television, the television station of the University of Pennsylvania (It's our museum she is playing at) If she had a music video, I could easily get it broadcast on our station, and probably on a national satellite feed for other college stations to play. However, I assume if she had one, I would have heard of it by now. So, I was thinking, I could have an interview done with her, but I'm not sure how much this would add to her audience unless I did some sort of video collage with it (with a song in the background). I guess my question for y'all is, what do you recommend I do, and how should I propose this to Kevin or Happy? I might be able to send a team up to Albany before the concert. Hypothetically speaking, what questions would you think an interviewer should ask Happy that would interest an audience who don't know her. I personally didn't like the WXPN interview. Also, anyone know when tickets go on sale? (Are they on sale already?) And, on another subject, Jessica, are the t-shirts you mentioned presold, or are there still some available? Please let me know. Thanks -- -- Stephen Golden golden@eniac.seas.upenn.edu ======================================================================== To join ecto, please send electronic mail to the following address: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu To have your thoughts included in the next issue, send mail to: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To subscribe to "Ecto", the printed fanzine, send $8 to: Ecto PO Box 11291 New Brunswick, NJ 08906 Ecto is issued 8 times/year, and will include photos and as much material from non-net members as we can get! 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