13-Jan-92 18:23:15-GMT,15946;000000000401 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA06207; Mon, 13 Jan 92 13:09:33 EST Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA22467; Mon, 13 Jan 92 13:09:20 EST Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 13:09:20 EST Message-Id: <9201131809.AA22467@athos.rutgers.edu> Errors-To: owner-ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #108 ecto, Number 108 Monday, 13 January 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* I wonder if they're confused... Ticket Price Stuff (tm) sigh! Lurker alert ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 12 Jan 92 23:13:15 PST From: barry@gnu.ai.mit.edu This isn't any happy news, just something amusing I thought everyone would enjoy. Recently the mayor of my town was sworn in. any guesses as to who it was? :) His name was: JAMES T. KIRK Seriously, the guy's name is James T. Kirk. I guess it would've been likely that someone out there would actually be named James Kirk. Hmm, wonder if he got the trekkie vote! :) Barry ======================================================================== Subject: I wonder if they're confused... Date: Sun, 12 Jan 92 23:35:49 EST From: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu Over in rec.kites, our own Mark Carroll just posted a request for some info. I didn't even notice the name in the header when I started reading the article, but the quote from "Feed the Fire" in his .sig certainly caught my eye! Then I realized who it was. Of course, now there's a followup to his message, which also contains a Happy quote in the .sig. With the current slow pace of traffic in that newsgroup, it seems likely that those two messages will appear next to each other at quite a few sites (for people not using threaded readers, that is...). Tee hee. I just realized that the Happy concert is on the same day (as far as I know) as the Smithsonian Kite Festival, which I haven't been to in 3 years, and have been looking forward to for quite some time. I wonder if I can manage to go to the Festival for a few hours and then drive up to Philly in time for the show. PIFFLE! Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Show what you are / Be strong, be true | | | Time for you to / Be who you are." | |jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu | --Happy Rhodes | ======================================================================== Date: 13 Jan 92 00:00:08 EST From: Bob Brown <74756.1557@compuserve.com> Subject: Ticket Price Angelos - >It took a lot of thought before I decided to write this, but I felt that >I should. >I ALSO believe that $15.75 is expensive for a Happy concert. Interesting comment. I think you've been here awhile and a Happy fan for a while...yes? I say interesting comment because I'm a new fan, bought the CD 1 month ago, and just joined Ecto, and I didn't even give the $15.75 ticket price a second thought. In fact, I'm damn glad she's comin' because quite frankly, there just aren't that many interesting artists out there anymore. She really is a breath of fresh air compared to some of the stuff coming out that is just a rehash of everything else we've heard before. Happy has generated quite a bit of enthusiasm by the exposure on WXPN in Phila. I'll be surprised if she doesn't fill the 800 seat venue she is playing here. I recently saw David Wilcox, Patty Larkin, Christine Lavin, and Chris Eberhard in a larger venue for a $25 ticket price and I believe it sold out. Although Lavin is probably getting good exposure, the other 3 aren't household names. All this brings up an interesting question I have that probably has been discussed here before but I'm curious anyway... Does Happy do her own distribution because she wants it that way, or is it because nobody will pick it up? If it's because nobody will pick it up, I don't understand it. If its because she wants to keep it that way, that's ok....and from what I'm reading into her lyrics, I can understand that...I think. Back to the ticket price. If the ticket price keeps away the curious that want to chose between her and U2, that's just fine with me. I'd rather be with a group of people that really want to be there rather than with those that might be going just because it's something to do on a Saturday night. Especially if they also become a distraction in the process. Bob Brown ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 07:38:17 MST From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Stuff (tm) Greetings, A warm fuzzy blue welcome to Bob Brown. The Philadelphia Ecto-center continues to grow! (Am I the seventeen thousandth person to ask you if you've heard Frank Zappa's song "Bobby Brown"? I hope the answer is "No" to both questions.) I watch all this bandwidth about the March 21st concert fly by with a heavy sigh. Too far away. Yet I want to take advantage of this to make a modest proposal. We ought to pick one future Happy concert as an excuse for an Ectophile get-together, if not an flat out fan convention. Combining a Happy concert with a chance to meet everyone here would make the price of an airline ticket much easier to shell out. Meanwhile, I'll try to keep my jealosy in check as everyone converges on the City of Hapsterly Love on the first day of spring. Reading through Vickie's recent FAQ about the World Cafe interview raises a number of questions. Was I the only person who recorded it? If so, Jessica does not have a copy of that tape. What about the copy Vickie used for her Ecto SIG tapes? No matter what the answers are, I do have an offer to make. I recently lost access to the cassette deck I used to copy my own tapes, so I finally bought one of my own. So if anyone wants a copy of the 20-minute Happy interview, mail me a cassette, and I'll copy it and pay for return packaging and postage. My address: Doug Burks, 2036 West Plum St C7, Fort Collins CO 80521 The recording is good quality with the usual radio background noise and the occasional pop, click, and signal breakup. Considering the low power Laramie station is a mountainous fifty miles away, the quality is great! Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 10:33:51 EST From: spix%sparc6a@harvard.harvard.edu (Claudia Spix) Subject: sigh! Hello everybody, and especially Bostonians, if you hear things that go sigh in the night, that's me. Even though Happy's other tour dates aren't out yet, I gather Philadelphia will probably the first and so I won't get to see her :( :( It certainly looks like she's not going to go on the road before March. And my return to good old Europe is scheduled for Feb 15th! I could have delayed that a bit and a concert would certainly have been enough reson to, but not more than a few days. Soooo, we (Klaus and I) rely heavily on all of you to give us a very thorough report afterwards!!! BTW, perhaps as a non-goer I shouldn't say that, but I back up Angelos saying that it's perhaps a bit expensive. Surely not for the REAL fans, but the idea of such a concert is not a "geschlossene Gesellschaft" for devoted fans, but to attract a lot of previously only mildly interested people. But I also assume it's not H&K's fault but rather the venue's. Actually, I don't know much about the business side of such events, but I gather only very little of this money will actually go into H&K's pockets, right? :( :( Stage fright: I'm sure she will feel it! She'd be a piece of rock if she didn't! Ive been with a childrens choir for a long time til I got too old and since I have my degree I've given quite a few talks, some before rather big auditoriums, and I tell you, it always gets you. It got toned down since I got used to it, so now it comes full blast only about 15-30 minutes before it's my turn, but it's there. I've talked to people who have been doing this often for more than 20 years and they say it's still there. On the other hand, performing people often say it's absolutely necessary for that bit of extra adrenalin that makes the life of the show. No, the question is not, will she fell stage frigth, but will she get over it the moment she goes out there! And I'm sure all of you lucky ones who go to see her will help her over those first few minutes! I really wish I could be there ... HPG: Thanks to Vickie for all the trouble you had. I'm looking forward to hearing the tape when I get home. A fuzzy blue scarf IS a good idea, for a while I thought maybe a bit of blue velvet would have done the trick, but then, that's a lot less useful. About the next project, that`s fine with me but maybe we shouldn't do the same thing over and over. We (and Happy) might get bored with it. It seems to me, many of us are interested in what's going on in culture (in the widest sense) in general, not only in music. So maybe for the next holiday-project we could consider sth else, like short stories, poems, pictures, movie-pictures, scenes from movies, book covers.... any more suggestions? For her birthday we should best stick to music, most of us had more than one song in mind anyway! so this is a suggestion for the future, if the rest of you fell we should stick to music that's ok, I was just brainstorming. Oh, Vickie, as to your "scolding", I think you're absolutely right to do this, it's an old experience, if you want something done, make a deadline and stick to it (mostly). WFNX-Best Music Poll. Angelos and I filled out our first form on Friday and will post it soon. They require original polling forms from the Phoenix, so please, if you're in the Boston area get one! Though we do our best, we may still not get her mentioned as this is polling for nominations, the actual vote will be among the first five. Because our chances are so small we should agree on the Best Song category, so votes don't get split up. Angelos and I agreed on "Feed the Fire", because it did well in Philly. After all, the idea is to influence other people, not to air our views (I haven't got a favourite anyway, I like them all!). We have her down for best national female vocalist, new artist, album and song and also cutting edge act, although I guess she has no chance in the latter category. Yours, Claudia spix@sparc6a.harvard.edu || "May the things that go clump in the night Claudia Spix || bless you" Harvey Jacobs - The Egg of the Glak ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 10:13:24 -0600 From: brianb@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Br!an Bloom) Subject: Lurker alert *Sigh*.. Okay, I'll post. The reason I haven't been on like I used to is that I'm a student again, and not an overpaid engineering intern for a challenging and competitive electronics company like I used to be. I don't have a terminal in front of me for 8 hours a day any more. I'm back to phoning down to the school computers, and with the new flame in my life, haven't exactly been home a lot . But here I am... Anyway... is there any way we could talk Happy into a Texas tour? Shoot, I'd drive to Dallas or Houston for it (provided we ectophiles can get backstage passes ) *sigh* Glad the HGP worked out... I was beginning to think that the Burmuda Triangle was somewhere between Austin and Chicago because everytime I sent something to Vickie it seemed to vanish. So are we serious about a HBP too? By the way, in a store in Dallas I saw a 12" of Sarah McLachlan with her singing Solsbury Hill live on the B-side. Anyone hear this? Is it worth the $10 or so it would cost me to get?? More relevant By-the-way: A month ago (i.e. may be gone now, but I doubt it) I saw Warpaint on CD used for $4.99 at MusicMania here in Austin. If you're an Ecto lurker and want to take the plunge, (DO IT!!!) you're not going to find a better deal than that. Okay Vickie, the .sig: (modified for the new address of course) __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: Re: Ticket Price Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 12:31:56 EST Hi, Bob Brown (hopefully not my thesis advisor :-)) says: >I think you've been here awhile and a Happy fan for a while...yes? Yes. In fact since June '91. >I say interesting comment because I'm a new fan, bought the CD 1 month ago, >and just joined Ecto, and I didn't even give the $15.75 ticket price a >second thought. In fact, I'm damn glad she's comin' because quite frankly, >there just aren't that many interesting artists out there anymore. If you had read my post, you would have seen that I wasn't saying that I wouldn't pay the amount, I am in fact planning to go to Philly all the way from Boston which is an additional burden much larger than the ticket price! I was talking about reaching out to people who haven't heard of Happy's music, which IMHO should be the purpose of the tour. OK, pleasing fans is also a reason to tour, but how many people are we talking about? Vickie, how many Warpaints have been sold? 3,000 maybe? >She really is a breath of fresh air compared to some of the stuff coming out >that is just a rehash of everything else we've heard before. I agree 100%. >All this brings up an interesting question I have that probably has been >discussed here before but I'm curious anyway... Does Happy do her own >distribution because she wants it that way, or is it because nobody will >pick it up? If it's because nobody will pick it up, I don't understand it. Unfortunately this is the case. I don't understand it either, but that's how things are... >I'd rather be >with a group of people that really want to be there rather than with those >that might be going just because it's something to do on a Saturday night. Claudia couldn't have said it better. You are obviously promoting the "geschlossenes Gesellschaft" concert view. Well, sorry but I disagree. >Especially if they also become a distraction in the process. ...! Angelos +=====================================+ |'My ears have parasites'-hApPy RhOdEs| +=====================================+ ======================================================================== To join ecto, please send electronic mail to the following address: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu To have your thoughts included in the next issue, send mail to: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To subscribe to "Ecto", the printed fanzine, send $8 to: Ecto PO Box 11291 New Brunswick, NJ 08906 Ecto is issued 8 times/year, and will include photos and as much material from non-net members as we can get! Donations above the subscription cost are welcomed - all money goes to bringing you better issues! Your "humble pseudo-moderator" -- jessica (jessica@athos.rutgers.edu)