8-Jan-92 6:37:43-GMT,34454;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01511; Wed, 8 Jan 92 01:22:39 EST Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA22690; Wed, 8 Jan 92 01:22:29 EST Date: Wed, 8 Jan 92 01:22:29 EST Message-Id: <9201080622.AA22690@athos.rutgers.edu> Errors-To: owner-ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu From: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #102 ecto, Number 102 Wednesday, 8 January 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Musings of an Overcommitted Cineaste, or: How I Survived the Holidays Hi Hellos, welcome backs and EctoFAQ (long!) Re: wendy maharry ======================================================================== Date: 7 January 1992 14:38:27 CST From: Subject: Musings of an Overcommitted Cineaste, or: How I Survived the Holidays It's Christmas today in much of the Commonwealth of Independent States. Since it's somehow become trendy to ramble, at length, in these pages about how one spent one's holiday season, I figure this is the ideal time to add mine to the pot, having apparently made it through not only the Hanukah/Winter Solstice /Christmas/Kwanza observances on both the Gregorian and Julian calendars, but also through that semi-arbitrary benchmark in the cognitive packaging of time, the New Year--marking the end of 1991, a year that brings to mind the great words of W.C. Fields, "What symmetrical digits"; and its replacement by 1992, a year no more likely than its predecessor to survive beyond its first birthday. My principal pastimes were going to the movies, and taping stuff from public radio--not very different from the rest of the time, only more of them-- in addition to my usual habituation to the Internet in general and ecto in particular. The proliferation of bargain matinees in this town during these couple of weeks inspired me to accelerate my consumption of art films. I especially recommend _The Double Life of Veronique_, _High Heels_, _Meeting Venus_, _My Own Private Idaho_, and the Canadian Film Board animation festival. Happily, _Life Is Sweet_ will be running all this month, which freed me to spend more time last Saturday with the rest of the Chicago ecto colony. I missed the chance to see _Little Man Tate_ and _Rambling Rose_ as a double feature, but caught both of them, and _The Fisher King,_ singly. At times when I was home, I often did more of the same; the best flicks I caught on the home box were _Metropolitan_, _Spartacus_, the all-day, much-of-the-night Humphrey Bogart marathon on New Year's Day, and my favorite film of all time, _Return of the Secaucus Seven_. The latter, unfortunately, was marred by the station starting it significantly in advance of the announced time--this after I had made a special point of getting up early, so as to be able to catch it at the scheduled 4 A.M. I still plan to write the station an indignant letter about this. On the radio, I got the Paul Winter Consort winter solstice concert on tape, except for a few minutes late in the first hour when I fell asleep as the tape auto-reversed. If anyone has a burning desire for either New Age music for winter in the northern hemisphere, or for the two numbers by Noreen Norain (or whatever the actual spelling is in idiomatic Gaelic), or the bits by the Russian musicians, or anythin else in the concert, let me know and we can work out some means of getting it dubbed. (At present, it's on loan to Vickie.) Christmas day, NPR did _A Christmas Carol_ read by Jonathan Winters (always a treat, but done straighter than we've come to expect from him), and two hours of contemporary Xmas music (which I taped as I went out, finding out later that I had inadvertently engaged the pause switch during much of the second hour). New Year's was a day for time shifts--substantially unattended--while I was glued to Bogie on the TV. I hope the results aren't a metaphor for what the coming year in general will be like. The digital tuner on the newer of my recording Walkmen developed a nasty habit of sponaneously shifting to other stations; this caused me to lose the last 15-20 minutes of the Capitol Steps special. Not wanting it to happen again as I taped NPR's lighthearted year- end review with Robert Krulwich, Jane Curtin, et al. (you can imagine what would go on during _that_ kind of show), I switched to my old machine, for- getting that the AC adapter cuts off the battery circuit on that one, and that the outlet it was plugged into only works with the room lights on (which, in the dim light of day, I neglected to do). I realized my mistake only 10 or 15 minutes into the show, but have yet to bring myself to listen to the result. Days later, as I was timeshifting Garrison Keillor on the newer machine, the station setting stayed put throughout. Go figure. (I also listened, through all the multipath distortion that creeps in downtown, to NPR's reading of _Winnie the Pooh_ as I finished up my Christmas shopping on the afternoon of the 24th, but felt no urge to record it.) In terms of prerecorded music, seasonal and otherwise, I went looking for the Roches' Xmas album after they did a number on the David Letterman show; the broken box on the last extant cassette copy (seemingly) won it for me for $2.99. The other good new holiday albums were the one by the Chieftans, with a whole laundry list of guest artists (Elvis Costello, Rickie Lee Jones, and the McGarrigles, among others); and a compilation on one of the major jazz labels. The Sunday afternoon jazz show, and the all-night blues show, on WBEZ both played a number out of the era of 78's called "Santa Claus Is Smokin' Reefer," which I was unable to find on record anywhere. My greatest find during this period, however, was not seasonal: the store's only copy, to outward appearanc es, of Tribe's _Abort_. It's a good album, a little closer to the soft than th e hard end of the rock continnum. My thanks to Joisey's Favorite Ectomorph (aka Jessica) for introducing us all to this band, as well as for supplying me with the digests containing the postings I was missing from October. So: with the proverbial Twelve Days of Christmas (give or take) come and gone, our electronic community can now look forward to another year of traveling down the Primrose Bangpath together, masticating the adipose :-) about topics of mutual interest--including, but not limited to, the art of that redoubtable greeting-card designer, Happy Rhodes, whose card reached me Christmas Eve. I was immediately impressed (in my subjective imagination, anyway) by her superficial resemblance to Laraine Newman of _SNL_ fame, whose appearance as a character based on the young Carole King in _American Hot Wax_ (also on TV this season, alas opposite _Annie Hall_) made her a natural to star, one of these fine days, in _The Happy Rhodes Story_. When I later mentioned this to Vickie, it was pointed out to me that by the time such a biop ic were ever made, Laraine would undoubtedly be too old for the part. For many of my ideas, it seems, there are logical counterarguments--living proof of the old aphorism, "nobody's perfect." Ain't electronic communities grand? Mitch Pravatiner ____________________________________ "Well I'll be damned--we all pulled through." --Holly Near "Another one bites the dust." --The immoral Freddie Mercury and associates ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 7 Jan 92 18:31:37 PST From: megatest!kax!bgregory@sun.com (Brian Gregory) Subject: Hi Thanks to all, Jessica, Vickie, and Doug for the fuzzy greetings!! For introductions, well, what to say??? I was born and raised in San Francisco, though now I am a denizen of Silicon Suburbia (Sunnyvale, CA). I am an only child, born on May 9, 1963. Both my wife and I are third generation CA, for whatever that's worth, at least a rarity. I love the Bay Area, but there are too many people, too many oldies stations, and not enough weather! :^) I've always had a love of music, but I would say I have been collecting music for about the past 15 years, that is, since I was a kid. Darned bulky (but lovable) vinyl takes up an entire "music" room (our priorities are straight :^)), and the aluminum is making significant gains (as funds and selection permit). Tastes have changed over the years, but overall, there's something in most genres I can appreciate. The biggest groups are late 70s/early 80s punk/new wave, then classical, new/obscure/ethnic music, and dance/ club. But, that isn't to say I want to leave out folk, reggae, R&B, etc. Too much good music, too little time. I actually try to stay away from the netnews and publications so I don't overexpose! (the operative word though is *try* ! :^)) Ironically I don't listen to the radio at all (though if I could, I'd listen to Vickie)... the hit/miss ratio is too low, and there are other avenues. Anyway... I have Vickie to thank for introducing me to Happy! I used to read gaffa (and actually its predecessors) at school (Berkeley), and eventually, "katefans" turned up with her playlists, and seeing that her tastes were well-matched, and that she absolutely *raved* about Happy Rhodes, I started out with Ecto, I believe. I may have ordered the entire catalog through Ecto, now that I think. Absolutely among the best music I've heard! I'm looking foward to reading ecto, in fact, I ftp'd all of jessica's archives! Lots of good reading, I'm sure. Anyway, I'll be in touch. Take care, and have a great year. Brian P.S. Can anyone tell me if H&K are going to play anywhere in their hometown area in the period 1/20-1/31? I may be in NY during that time... Thanks! ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 7 Jan 92 18:13 CST From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) Subject: Hellos, welcome backs and EctoFAQ (long!) Vickie here. Hi all! Hey, BigBigBig welcomes to Michael Peskura!! Folks, you should know that Michael and Larry Hernandez were the very first netters to send away for Happy's music! Surely that merits a place in the HappyNet Hall of Fame... Welcome to Ecto, Michael! Valerie, welcome back from vacation. I chose an Enya song for you, but now that y're back, if you want something specific by Enya (you asked if anyone has chosen something by her, and no one had. That's why I picked her) if you e-mail me within the next day I can change the song. Woj, I don't think I welcomed you back from vacation so...welcome back! Thanks for the wonderful Christmas card. Thanks also to Mitch, Court and Michael for the Christmas cards. That's so nice! I'm such a bum about cards, I probably haven't sent one out for 15 years. It's nice that other people do still send them. Thank you so much. Welcome back to Steve Fagg too. I'm glad to hear that the bounce problems are being cleared up. You've missed out on a lot, but I don't know how much. I'm still getting bounces from Court's account and Brian Bloom's account so they're probably not getting much from anyone else either. These are Ecto bounces, not e-mail bounces. This is a prototype of a FAQ for new Ectophiles, not meant to be posted in other newsgroups, such as gaffa. Questions, corrections, comments, changes are all welcome. I have the Ecto Projects section in a separate file. I could leave it included here, or I could post it separately from the FAQ. For now, the Ecto Projects is included in the FAQ. Newbies, since this is for you, if there's anything not included in here that you would be interested in knowing, or if something is too confusing please post or e-mail me. Thanks! :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Hello! Welcome all newcomers to Happy Rhodes and Ecto-the fuzzy blue mailing list. (Fuzzy Blue=Warm and Friendly) You are now officially an Ectophile! Abbreviations: HR-Happy Rhodes (also H, HTR) KB-Kevin Bartlett (though, with all the Kate Bush fans here, be sure to H&K-Happy & Kevin (personal partners and co-producers) check the context) B\R-Bartlett\Rhodes (a professional duo in 1988 and part of 1989) AG-Aural Gratification 1st4-Happy's 1st 4 albums (cassettes) VI-Volume I album (also V1) VII-Volume II album (also V2) Rearm-Rearmament album WP-Warpaint album Her full name is Happy Tyler Rhodes. She was born Kimberly Tyler Rhodes but has always been called Happy by family and friends. When she was 16 she had her name legally changed to Happy. She's 26 years old, born August 9, 1965 in Poughkeepsie, NY. The address to order Happy's music or write to her is: The discography: Happy Rhodes c/o Aural Gratification 1) Rhodes Vol. I (1986) P.O. Box 8658 2) Rhodes Vol. II (1986) Academy Station 3) Rearmament (1986) Albany, NY 12208 4) Ecto (1987) 5) Warpaint (1991) 1-4 are only available on cassette 5 available on CD and cassette The CD is $13.99 Postage for one CD is $2.00 The tapes are $9.99 each Postage for one tape is $1.50 Each additional tape is $ .35 apiece If you were to buy just the 4 tapes, the total postage would be $2.55. For the CD and all 4 tapes, postage would be $3.40. Price in English pounds is: 8 pounds per cassette (postage included) 11 pounds per CD (postage included) The postage prices for Happy (Aural Gratification) stuff to Australia: Warpaint CD (in its own package) approx US$4.50 First 4 Albums on tape ( all 4 in size 5 mailbag) approx US$8.50 Ecto - the mailing list 0.00 (yay!) Ectophiles from other countries who have not yet ordered anything from Happy but wish to do so should enquire through this list (perhaps there are others who have ordered from the same country and know the prices of postage) or write directly to Happy & Kevin. Whenever you write to them, and you want an answer to postage or other questions, please consider enclosing an IRC (International Reply Coupon) for their convenience. Americans and Canadians might consider a self-addressed stamped envelope. H&K have not requested this, I mention it only to make mail easier for them, when an answer is required. As to which album(s) to get? That's a toughie, because they're all excellent. There's a huge difference between 1 and 5, and the progression is evident in the middle three. If you asked the people here in the mailing list, you'd get lots of different answers. If you already have Warpaint, one suggestion would be to start with 1 and 4, and if you like them, you will almost certainly like the middle two. Of course, it's just about impossible to know what different people will like. My stock answer is "get them all!" :-) because they're all worth getting. IMHO, of course. The 1st4 cassettes will be made available on CD at some point in the future, but a time frame for that has not yet been determined. It costs a lot of money to make CDs and right now H&K are concentrating on the upcoming tour. It could well be many months before they are ready. In the meantime, the cassettes are worth having, not only for their musical value, but also for their "cherishibility factor" which comes from the fact that H&K dub the cassettes, put together the inserts (complete with photographs of Happy's paintings) and package and mail the cassettes out themselves. FYI, if you ask Happy to autograph the tapes and/or CD, she will! She has been working on the 6th album. The songs have been written, but not yet completely arranged or recorded. Happy does not yet have a major-label recording contract. All her music has been released so far on Aural Gratification, a private label started and owned by Kevin Bartlett. Kevin started the label to release his own music (he's quite well-known as a musician in the Albany area), then added Happy after they met. The first 4 albums were recorded by Happy, all alone in the studio. She played acoustic guitar and keyboards and used lots of overdubs. She produced them all herself and even engineered quite a few of the songs. Happy started out working as an apprentice engineer at Cathedral Sound Studios and learned the equipment by recording her own songs. Pat Tessitore, Cathedral's owner, was impressed by Happy's talent and encouraged her, even giving her free studio time to play around with the equipment and record her songs. When Happy met Kevin in 1986 and he encouraged her to let him release her music on AG, she had amassed enough songs for 2 albums. They gathered together all the tapes of the various songs and VI and VII were born. Later that year, Happy released Rearmament and Ecto came in 1987. Between Ecto and Warpaint, Happy and Kevin joined forces professionally as Bartlett\Rhodes. They never released any music but did play live in the Albany area quite often. In mid-1989 they decided to continue as they had started, as separate artists. Happy then began work on Warpaint. WP is more professionally recorded (she and Kevin took out a bank loan to make sure it was as high-quality they could possibly make it) and uses more musicians, though it's mainly just her and Kevin. They also co-produced the album. H&K are still personal partners Kevin is also working very hard on the promotional side of Happy's career while keeping a full schedule with his own career. {Live} Happy has played live in and around the Albany, NY area for many years. She's rehearsing musicians for a Spring 1992 tour but there are no details yet. {Background} She was a very lonely child and has always been a loner. She suffered from depression as an adolescent and teenager and sought solace and help in the music she listened to (Kate Bush, Peter Gabriel, Bach) and in writing songs herself. She "wrote out" the demons in her mind, never guessing that the songs would someday end up on albums that would be cherished by other people. Happy is an interesting, intelligent, singer/songwriter/musician who cares deeply about her music and makes music to last, music that matters. Happy's lyrics can sear your heart and soul in its intensity and introspectiveness. Her lyrics are very often dark and are nearly all autobiographical, but they are almost all about emotions. Human emotions are universal, so many of her songs touch nerves in other people too. Many of her songs are about depression, some are about suicidal feelings and some are cynical, but there are also songs about hope and light, with a "you must love yourself before anyone else can love you" point of view. She does have a sense of humor, and it comes out in a few songs, but most of her songs are very serious. Not that they are all slow, dirge-like ballads. Many songs are fast-paced and very melodic. You could enjoy the music and Happy's voice(s) without ever paying attention to the lyrics. The lyrics add another layer to be fascinated by if you choose to delve further, though. {Fans} Happy's fan base is small but growing and we here in Ecto think it's exciting to see how she's progressing and to "be with her" at each step of her career from now on. Happy Rhodes fans are very passionate about promoting her music. Record companies have ignored her (and, so far, continue to) I think because they don't really know what to do with her. She can't be easily put into a box and labled. We all think that it's extremely unfair and wrong that she's unknown and obscure. We want to change that :-) It's only at a small grass-roots level at the moment, but will grow as more people become aware of Happy, fall in love with her music, and care enough to spread the word about her. H&K are very aware of Ecto and are kept informed of it's topics of conversation. They are deeply appreciative of everyone's interest and have great affection for Ecto. {History of Ecto} Semi-regular postings about Happy Rhodes have appeared in rec.music.gaffa (Love-Hounds) since January 1989 via Vickie Mapes, who "found" Happy in 1989. The release of Warpaint in April 1991 prompted many gaffa readers to try her music for the first time. Many of those people liked what they heard and went on to complete their collection with the early tapes. As discussion grew to deafening levels, it was pointed out to the Happy Rhodes fans that, no, not *every* Kate Bush fan will like Happy's music, and could we please start talking about Kate again? As many gaffians wanted to continue to talk about Happy, but wanted to respect the wishes of those who had no interest, on June 13, 1991 Jessica Dembski created the mailing list Ecto. The list has been *very* active, and topics on any subject of interest to Ectophiles are welcome. GIFs, Lyrics to all the albums and Ecto Archives are available from: athos.rutgers.edu by anonymous ftp, in pub/hr Note: Because of space limitations, the Archives only go to August 1991. The problem is being worked on by Jessica and when space becomes available, the posts from Aug. 1991 to present day will be added, along with lots of other goodies including interviews and album reviews. If you are getting Ecto as loose mail, you might want to know that it is available in a Digest form. Write Jessica at ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu for details. {Happy as artist} Happy will soon (if everything works out) be painting her first book cover, a science fiction novel by Michael D. Weaver (who wrote _Mercedes Nights_ and _My Father, Myself_, among others) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ECTO PROJECTS ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The current Ecto Projects are (for blue fuzzy newbies) : 1) The Ecto-zine $8/year for 8 issues. A print fanzine lovingly provided by Jessica for Ectophiles and those not on the net. 8 pages and an ever-expanding number of colours. Subscribers will have their first issue autographed by Happy. The first issue has been delayed, but you should subscribe ASAP anyway. Address to subscribe: Ecto PO Box 11291 New Brunswick, NJ 08906 Donations above the subscription cost are welcomed - all money goes to bringing you better issues! 2) The Ecto SiG A tape made by Vickie of the more popular Happy songs, as determined from a Poll conducted by Angelos. Also included is the World Cafe interview, and the live songs performed within. Other rarities are included, such as Bartlett\Rhodes demo tapes, and snippets of a phone interview with Happy. This tape is in the format of Vickie's regular "Suspended in Gaffa" female vocals oriented radio show. Send a 100 min. tape & postage or $$ equivalent to Vickie if you want a copy. 3) The Happy Interview tape. (aka The World Cafe or WXPN interview) WXPN in Philadelphia syndicates a program called "The World Cafe" and Happy was interviewed on it. She recorded 3 songs live in the studio which were played within the interview. ("Feed the Fire" "Words Weren't Made For Cowards" and "Given In") The entire show (about 20 minutes total) is on the Ecto SIG tape, but the songs have been separated out of the interview, which is included at the end of the Ecto SIG. You could get the Ecto SIG and cut and paste the show back together yourself, but if you just want the interview and songs as they originally aired, write to Jessica (jessica@cs.rutgers.edu) about getting a copy of it. The interview was originally taped off the air by Doug Burks. Be prepared to send Jessica a short (60 min.) tape & postage or $$ equivalent. 4) The Happy Gift Project This will hopefully become a twice a year tradition, a gift to Happy from Ectophiles for Happy's Birthday and the Winter Holidays. The idea is to assemble a tape with possibly a spoken message from everyone and ONE song she/he would like Happy to hear. Vickie will create a tape with all the songs and messages and will send it to Albany. Every participant will get her/his tape(s) back with a copy of what Happy receives, if postage has been included. The first HGP spilled over onto a second tape so if you want copies of both tapes be sure to send 2 tapes. Besides postage, a buck would be appreciated for return packaging, or include one in yours. There are no restrictions about what song to select, except not to take one from Happy :). It's nice to have have a variety of music, so hopefully not everyone will select one from KaTe. The deadline for the next such project, the HBP (Happy Birthday Project), will be July 1, 1992. All tapes with messages/songs on them must be received by that date. So, decide on your song & your message, put it on a 100 minute tape, and mail it to Vickie. Don't forget to include return postage if you want your tape(s) to be returned! It will be filled with lots of interesting music from famous artists and notorious Ectophiles. ;) A complete listing of the songs on HGP-1991 will be posted and made also available via e-mail from Vickie. Mail tapes to: Vickie Mapes 1627 W. Farwell, #2N Chicago, IL 60626 USA Again, get tapes to Vickie, and this time put a song and a personal message (if you want to) to Happy on it. Vickie will compile them into a present for Happy from all of us. Klaus' idea, this one. HGP-Happy Gift Project (for the Winter Holiday season) HBP-Happy Birthday Project (for Happy's Birthday...natch!) Note: The Ecto SIG and the HGP tapes are available to anyone, even if you did not participate. 5) The Personal Database Project Mail to ecto with all your particulars. Which particulars? We're not particular. Birthdays (for Vickie's Birthday List) and physical characteristics are a good start. (I hereby propose everyone emails in a GIF picture of themselves) Besides a Birthday list, Vickie is keeping a mailing list for Happy and Kevin. If you want to be on this (to get mailings from Aural Gratification) just send her your name and address. Do this (assuming you want to) even if you've ordered something from AG in the past. This mailing list is strictly confidential. Also let us know how you found out about Happy and what you have and what you think about what you have. 6) The Ecto\Homeground Interview Over the summer of 1991, Ectophiles sent questions to Happy via Vickie. Happy answered the questions and the interview was posted to Ecto. It will eventually be edited down and sent to Homeground (the Kate Bush fan- zine) for inclusion there. When Jessica has room on athos, or switches to another machine with more room, this interview will be available via ftp. Until then, request a copy from Vickie. (katefans@chinet.chi.il.us) We will eventually have an Ecto Interview Pt.II, so if you have any questions you'd like to ask Happy directly, post or e-mail them to Vickie. 7) The Kevin Bartlett interview This is Greg Bossert's project. If you have any questions directed specifically to Kevin, send them to Greg. (gb10@gte.com) 8) The Ecto-band Project Not sure where this is but it IS somewhere. :-) Several musical ecto people are doing joint but remote collaborations on covers of some songs. It seems to be dormant, but might be revived at any time. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us ps, there was some line noise as this was coming through from my home file, I hope it didn't weird it out too much. ======================================================================== From: vickie@chinet.chi.il.us (Vickie Ann Mapes) Subject: Re: wendy maharry Date: Tue, 7 Jan 92 18:45:06 CST Forwarded message: ======================================================================== From: vickie (Vickie Ann Mapes) Subject: Re: wendy maharry Date: Tue, 7 Jan 92 18:43:35 CST Vickie again, first, I also want to hooray a bit about Ecto's 100th Digest coming through. How wonderful!!! Like Klaus, I'm looking forward to the next few hundred, absolutely! This account is still working, so maybe the Sysop has cooled off and forgiven me for sassing him (I went into a feminist "what do you mean I can't have my own account? I'm an individual!" rant) and I hope he'll let me keep this. Woj woj': > i've had some time to listen to the new one now. it's called _fountain of > youth_. musically, it starts where her debut picked up - arty and textured, > with raindrops of piano keys sprinkled about - but with an added twist: she > has rocked it up a bit. and by gum, it works too. really enjoyed this on > the first try, even with minimal sleep to assist my compehension. i think > that this should be available in stores now (i bought a promotional copy > at a store in nyc and i've not been in a record store for about three weeks Uh, huh, this a a *good* album! Here's another case where I'm recommending somethingI got for free, but I'm totally sincere. Weeks and weeks ago Ed Suranyi called me to tell me that Billboard had a phone number listed where people in the business could call and get a free Wendy MaHarry CD. I have a radio show, so I felt I was qualified. I called the number and gave all the info but never heard back. I had just about given up and was ready to buy it myself when it came the other day. It (to me) is certainly worth full price (unless you're lucky and find a promo in the bargain bins like woj) and I like it! It's as good, and in some ways better, as her first album (also highly recommended by me, and I *did* pay full price for that one :-). Her lyrics are more developed here. That's the only problem I had with the first one. She'd start out with a great lyrical idea and then not follow it up. This new album is not quite as quirky as her first, but it's still somewhat off-center. Thumbs up here, way up! Still wojing: > > wihch reminds me: has anyone picked up the new dave stewart/barbara gaskin > release? i saw it somewhere during that last shopping spree before the > holidays and i didn't have the money. comments on it? Yes, I do have it. Chris and I bought it as a Christmas present. We went to Tower Records and splurged for a few CDs and T2 on laserdisc. I have to say that I haven't listened to it as much as I should have by now. I haven't felt qualified to post about it. I do like it though, but I like nearly every single thing I've ever heard Dave and Barbara do.In a line, if you know about and like D&B, you should like Spin. If you don't know about D&B they athe perfect popmeisters, and I mean that as a very big compliment. They take covers of songs and give them new twists, and their original songs are excellent electronic pop. Barbara's voice is very lush and it softens the electronic edge. We've been D&B fans for years and it's nice to see other people discovering them. Generally, they're too quirky to have a hit in America, which is a shame Gotta go. Vickie ps, I think everyone had a good time at the party Saturday, even though no one's written about it. I had a lot of fun, that's for sure. ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 7 Jan 92 23:49:43 PST From: barry@gnu.ai.mit.edu Hey vickie, you forgot to add something to your post! For those who don't know, vickie, has her own radio show on KKFI in Kansas City 90.1 FM and a show in chicago. Her show in Kasnsas City might be taken off the air, so those of you in listening range, request to hear vickie's show! Barry ======================================================================== To join ecto, please send electronic mail to the following address: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu To have your thoughts included in the next issue, send mail to: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To subscribe to "Ecto", the printed fanzine, send $8 to: Ecto PO Box 11291 New Brunswick, NJ 08906 Ecto is issued 8 times/year, and will include photos and as much material from non-net members as we can get! Donations above the subscription cost are welcomed - all money goes to bringing you better issues! Your "humble pseudo-moderator" -- jessica (jessica@athos.rutgers.edu)