Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #996 ecto, Number 996 Thursday, 3 February 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Sarah in Westchester, NY HV Today's your birthday friends.... stuff and a scarf Tori vs. Sarah? contest-free ARGGHHHHHH!!! Still more miscellany on the fly More on subliminal promotion Split decision? Re: More on subliminal promotion RE: subliminal promotion New address! Re: Tori vs. Sarah? contest-free Re: More on subliminal promotion "I Should've Known" Heya Bdays! Re: UtP et al Hello there! ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 13:52:24 EST From: torok@nynexst.com (David Torok) Subject: Sarah in Westchester, NY Hi all, I was set to be bummed....I was reading the tour dates for Sarah and noticed that I will be away for the NYC show in March --- aaaaghh! But wait? What's this? A date at "Performing Arts Center" in Westchester [County], NY. Happy day! Anyway, the date is 20 April (a Wednesday), and if I'm correct the PAC is the main theatre at SUNY Purchase, a scant 10 minutes from my house!!! I'm going to try to get some more ticket information from them. Any NY-area ectophiles who are planning to go to this show? Why don't we all meet for dinner beforehand in White Plains? -=$>DaveTorok<$=- torok@nynexst.com ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 14:03:55 EST From: torok@nynexst.com (David Torok) Subject: Re: Sarah in Westchester, NY | From jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu Wed Feb 2 13:55:27 1994 | | ack!! | if tickets are available for that show, let me know ASAP, i will *definitely* | go. ! | I just called the box office, they say "as far as the box office is concerned, it doesn't exist". But also that "it might happen -- we don't know". So now I'm confused! Willit or won'tit? I looked in the phone book and there is a "Performing Arts Center at St. Gabrielle's" in New Rochelle, but a call there revealed a tape recording giving dates for shows in November 1993!!!! -=$>Dave<$=- ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 11:14:52 PST From: Neal Copperman Subject: HV >From the Vickster: >> *I* like it, but >>if it's ethereal you're looking for, I'd suggest going for the "Heavenly >>Bodies" compilation first I think your confusing this with a Playboy publication or something :) That would be "Heavenly VOices". (And I think Die Haut might have been on that disc too.) Next you'll be recommending "Heavenly Vices"! Happy Birthday BoB bob bob Bob bob Happy Birthday Diane! Neal ======================================================================== From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 00:10:41 Subject: Today's your birthday friends.... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *************** ***HAPPY******* ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ******************* **** Bob Lovejoy ****** ****** Diane Burke **** *********************** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bob Lovejoy Sun February 2 1947 Aquarius Diane Burke Sat February 2 1963 slow children Stephen Thomas Fri February 4 1966 Aquarius Doug Burks Tue February 14 1956 Blank Jim Sturnfield Thu February 18 1954 Aquarius Juha Kannisto Wed February 18 1970 Aquarius Paula Shanks Mon February 25 1952 Pisces Brni Mojzes Fri February 26 1965 the vanishing boy Pamela Pociluk Fri February 28 1964 Pisces -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.wupper.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 19:14:56 Subject: stuff and a scarf EurEcto Party in Cambridge? Sounds good! We can't decide right now, but chances are good that we will be there. As far as I remember, the date for the KaTeCon has not been confirmed yet, so people interested in coming shouldn't book anything yet. Correct me if I'm wrong. Ethan> First, does anyone know what happened to a Dutch singer by the > unlikely name of Anna Domino? That's interesting. We both now know that she is Canadian, but I also used to think that she is Dutch. I wonder who put that in our minds. BTW, I like her albums very much. Vickie> The results of an informal poll appeared in rec.music.misc today. > Ah well, *I* voted for Happy. Maybe one day... So did I. Meth> Champagne Jam lives! ... You're all psyched, I'm sure. :) YAY!!! I am! :) Vickie> Love Spirals Downward "Idylls" - Projekt PRO36 Let me add for the German Ectophiles that this has also been released in Germany. (RTD 391.0052.2) It's a beautiful album. Why haven't they done more? Or have they???? Neal mentioned the "Heavenly Voices" CD-set. A day before I read the message I ordered it myself. Any compilation with that title and "Love Spirals Downward" on it must be good. The next day later I read a very positiv review about it, which mentioned that it contains 37 band with female singers from 11 nations. Also, it was said to be a limited release to 10.000 copies worldwide! Hope I don't have to wait too long for it. Martin Hanley (welcome back!)> Final bit to Chris Boek: > Oh, and by the way, the pub deny all knowledge of your scarf; it's > probably even now hanging in a tree near Solsbury Hill :-) Missing a scarf??? There's an additional one hanging in out coat stand since the 2nd EurEcto party. All the best... ...Klaus. ___________________________________________________________ ( "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. ) ) Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." ( / --- Happy Rhodes --- \ / Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge klaus@inphobos.wupper.de \ ======================================================================== From: ezust@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (Alan Ezust) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 15:05:57 -0500 Subject: Re: HV [In message "HV" on Feb 2, Neal Copperman writes:] | | >From the Vickster: | >> *I* like it, but | >>if it's ethereal you're looking for, I'd suggest going for the "Heavenly | >>Bodies" compilation first | | I think your confusing this with a Playboy publication or something :) | That would be "Heavenly VOices". (And I think Die Haut might have been on | that disc too.) Next you'll be recommending "Heavenly Vices"! | Heavenly Bodies is a Dead Can Dance spinoff on C'est La Mort. It is not a compilation, it is a group. They have one album from 1987 or so, called "Celestial". -- | Alan Ezust ezust@{binkley.}cs.mcgill.ca Montreal, Quebec, Canada | |------------- McGill University School of Computer Science ----------------| "Recursion is a lot like recursion, only a little simpler." ======================================================================== Date: 02 Feb 94 17:15:46 EST From: Mike Mendelson Subject: Tori vs. Sarah? contest-free Jeff rampages unindentedly: Of course, now I've heard the whole thing (now in the midst of my second listen) and there's still absolutely no question that this is vastly superior to _Fumbling Toward Ecstasy_, All right. This FTE-bashing has gone on just about long enough. I feel compelled to step in now and assert that without any question, no holds barred, beyond a shadow of a doubt, Into the Pink (or whatever it's called) doesn't even begin to enter the realm of holding a flame, nay a *spark* to FTE. The first time I heard FTE I enterred a detached orbital state of extended orgasm brought on before only by the 129th (that's how long it took me to stop hating Leave It Open) listening of the Dreaming by Our Lady of the Touring Anonymous. an album which I might think were great if it hadn't been by Sarah McLachlan FTE by anyone else might have sounded trite, perhaps even sophomoric, but because it is by Sarah (her last name is unutterable if I dare do any more work today) it enters into a very special class all its own untouchable even by unknown upstate new york artists. She pulls it off so brilliantly and completely, I think I'll just liquidate the remainder of my CD collection now. (it simply doesn't compare to the first two. Ah, finally a statement I can agree with. It's so obviously leagues ahead of her last one (the name of which has effaced itself in my brain in the presence of the knowledge of the name of FTE (just those letters get my flesh wet)) and Touch just barely *touch*es its grapeness. I've had FTE for over a month now, and it *still* hasn't grabbed me, despite 10 or 20 listens. You must surely be in such a state of suspension from that quantity of listens that you don't even realize the hypnotic spell it has mesmorized you with. FTE should come with a warning label: Excessive listening may cause irreparable mental transformation. Listen slowly and sporadically. Always consult your physician before listening more than once a week. Don't get me wrong...I do *like* it Ah, delusional... loads 'n loads. There are some incredible songs ("Good Enough", "Fear," "FTE") but I don't think it's *nearly* as good musically as the others and I don't think she's using her voice to as good effect either. It's no chore to pull out FTE, but I've certainly not become obsessed with it. You have but your subconscious is so enthralled with it it won't let your conscious level know. (That line brought to you by Jorn. Hi Jorn!!) Of coures, there's no way in hell I'll miss Sarah's tour when it hits DC next month... ;-) Well, maybe your subconscious is starting to let go a little after all. [other rantings about Tori's mediocre new album deleted] "Pretty Good Year," "Bells for Her," or "Yes, Anastasia." Is this last one some leftover drippings from the Toys soundtrack? Just curious. Well, back to an extended state of Sarah-induced ecstacy. Hi Jeff! :-) -stillquiveringmjm P.S. Yes, Neile, you have my permission to use this post for the ecto music guide. 0-) ======================================================================== Subject: ARGGHHHHHH!!! Date: Wed, 02 Feb 94 17:27:22 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu To quote Mitch quoting me: ""OOOOOOOOH, that annoys me."" I just found out that Tori will be at Lisner Auditorium (GW University, where I'm seeing Concrete Blonde a week from Saturday and the Cocteau Twins 4 weeks from yesterday) on March 28th. This is a Monday. I have class on Monday nights. As a responsible (read: paying the bills) grad student I can't justify skipping class to see Tori. Well, yeah, actually I could. But then I'd go schizophrenic over the next several weeks trying to reconcile the guilt and the pleasure. I don't think I could handle that. For those interested, tickets go on sale on the 11th. This is *really* upsetting. I've just been _dying_ to hear about Tori's tour plans and now this. Oh well. So it goes. At least I've got tix to two great concerts and plans to get tix to Sarah McLachlan (which Gaston Hall (Georgetown University, where my friend Craig first saw Dead Can Dance) now reveals they know about, but I don't know if tickets ($20) are on sale yet. Find that one out tomorrow, I hope...) Off to class with yet another Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Everything is still with a fear of never coming out | |Suffering Bad Grammar| Never following through / Never ever finishing | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | What we wanted to do." -- Melissa Ferrick | ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 16:57:19 CST From: Subject: Still more miscellany on the fly The media have held that Punxsutawney Phil, the official groundhog of Groundhog Day, saw his shadow on emerging this morning, and went back into his burrow, assuring six more weeks of winter. Since then, it has begun to snow in Chicago and the temperature (or at least the wind chill) has gone down somewhat; it was already forecast that tomorrow the temperature will go down big time. Isn't nature wonderful? Yep, it sure as hell isn't :-). During the last epic cold snap in this town, the ten o'clock news ran footage of University of Chicago students running through the campus in their underwear to protest the administration's failure to cancel classes while it was cold. I recovered this memory in tandem with my recovery of another one germane to the events of the day, to wit: The president of the aforesaid U of C in the mid-1970's happened to be a native of Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania (_vide supra_) . One wonders if any campus wags of the period made any serious attempt to monitor whether he saw his shadow on the 2nd of February, and whether the ans- wer to that question had any correlation to seasonal conditions for the ensuing six weeks. Only in Hyde Park... :-) Klaus's list of proximate birthdays in today's incoming includes the following: >Diane Burke Sat February 2 1963 slow children For some reason, this caused me to recover the memory of a long-ago feature in _Mad_ magazine, speculating on how governments might try to make money by work- ing paid advertising into their highway signs. One of the examples listed was: Give SLOW CHILDREN _The Book of Knowledge_ (The lines listed here in upper-lower were the addenda, in small type. Those in all caps were the normal and customary content of the road sign. IMHO WIVH, nothing that that article proposed had a prayer of dethroning Burma Shave as the masters of the state of the art when it came to putting ads on road signs.) Needless to say, happy birthday to both Diane and Bob. And of course, Happy Groundhog Day, or what's left of it, to all. Mitch (The one without the swim team, unless you count those whose simulacra appear on 56 out of the total N of pages in the new issue of _Inside Sports_ that I picked up today :-) ) ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 17:24:45 CST From: Subject: More on subliminal promotion One of the lines in the header of one of my incoming ecto posts today went like so: >Received: from TORII.TRIPLE-I.COM by ns1.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) If there can be a machine somewhere on the net that is named in honor of Torii, why can't there be one named in honor of Happyy? :-) Mitchh :-) ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 17:39:14 CST From: Subject: Split decision? WBEZ News just reported that of the three groundhogs at the two Chicago area zoos, two emerged, saw no shadows, and so foreshadowed an early spring. The third didn't bother to run the test in question. We shall see about the empirical outcome, but based on what I see outside methinks I can trust this indicator about as far as I can throw it. Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 18:49:51 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (world serve your own needs) Subject: Re: HV ezust@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (Alan Ezust) sez: >Heavenly Bodies is a Dead Can Dance spinoff on C'est La Mort. well, they're not really a spinoff group - they just happen to have a few folks in the band who were members of dead can dance at one time in the past. incidentially, they sound nothing like dcd either, though a few tracks are droney at times. +woj ======================================================================== From: Mike Matthews Subject: Re: More on subliminal promotion Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 18:50:47 -0500 (EST) Mitch wonders about subliminal suggestions: > One of the lines in the header of one of my incoming ecto posts today went > like so: > >Received: from TORII.TRIPLE-I.COM by ns1.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) > If there can be a machine somewhere on the net that is named in honor of > Torii, why can't there be one named in honor of Happyy? :-) Therre arre allreaddy, arren't there? [and some folks may think this is due to my wrist braces] I mean, there's inphobos, and then there's my NeXTstation tirk to be joined by a 486 (minimum) NEXTSTEP/Intel PC which will most like be called alice (and yes, they will be networked, but not on the Internet, alas)... > Mitchh :-) I suppose I should mention something to help Jeffy get over possibly missing the Tori concert, but all I can say to that is at least *HE* doesn't have to go to a surprise birthday party in Pennsylvania during the Concrete Blonde concert that I actually had a ticket to. Oh, if anyone knows Grandma or Grandpa, don't tell 'em. Thanks. :-) ------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------ ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 18:03:42 GMT From: johnh@astro.as.utexas.edu (John Higdon) Subject: RE: subliminal promotion >Received: from TORII.TRIPLE-I.COM by ns1.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) If there can be a machine somewhere on the net that is named in honor of Torii, why can't there be one named in honor of Happyy? :-) Mitchh :-) Whenever I read or post to ecto, I'm on the machine I currently am on. But I find it easier to read newsgroups, especially Gaffa, from a different address. The computer I often read from: Happy However, this is not in tribute to the ecto goddess; many of the computers here are named for the seven dwarves. John H. ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 03 Feb 1994 11:42:22 +1000 From: GRAHAM.G.R.DOMBKINS@bhpmelmsm.x400.bhp.com.au Subject: New address! Hi all! This is a global mail-out to most accounts in my personal address list to let you know that I have a new address!! Yes the "address from hell" is no more and I can now be reached on... GRAHAM.G.R.DOMBKINS@bhpmelmsm.x400.bhp.com.au ... Thank you for your time, we now return you to your normal service. :-) =========================================================================== : Graham Dombkins /\/\ : Personal Computer Services / / /\ : BHP Information Technology / / / \ : PO Box 261, Warrawong, NSW 2502, AUSTRALIA / / / /\ \ : A.C.N. 006 476 218 \ \/ / / / : Phone +61-42-757113 \ / / / : Fax +61-42-757908 \/\/\/ : E-mail GRAHAM.G.R.DOMBKINS@bhpmelmsm.x400.bhp.com.au : AppleLink AUST0387 =========================================================================== "Hello Earth!! "I'm chasing nuns hello Earth..." - KT out in the yard..." - TA =========================================================================== ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 19:54:58 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: ARGGHHHHHH!!! On Wed, 2 Feb 1994 jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu wrote: > > I just found out that Tori will be at Lisner Auditorium (GW University, > where I'm seeing Concrete Blonde a week from Saturday and the Cocteau Twins > 4 weeks from yesterday) on March 28th. > This is a Monday. > I have class on Monday nights. > As a responsible (read: paying the bills) grad student I can't justify > skipping class to see Tori. > Well, yeah, actually I could. But then I'd go schizophrenic over the next > several weeks trying to reconcile the guilt and the pleasure. I don't > think I could handle that. > Jeff - I can't believe, after all the rhapsodizing over UtP you've been doing lately, that you would pass up her concert for something so trivial as grad school! Try this. Buy the Tori tickets. Give them to a TRUSTED friend. Promptly forget about them. Have your trusted friend remind you about the concert the night before. Skip your class. You won't go schizophrenic because you will have forgotten about the concert!! Yes? No? Maybe? If you've never seen her, then see her. If you have, then I guess you could pass for now. (I can't believe I just said that!) She'll probably swing by Chicago on another leg of her tour. Well, good luck wrestling with your conscience! Michael ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 16:09:39 -0800 (PST) From: Ectophiles Guide Subject: Re: Tori vs. Sarah? contest-free On 2 Feb 1994, Mike Mendelson(still quivering) mjms: > P.S. Yes, Neile, you have my permission to use this > post for the ecto music guide. 0-) Heh. So, am I driving everyone nuts yet? I'm just trying to Pay Attention & Enrich the Ectophiles Guide with more words about Music. I still don't remember to catch everything, but it's much better since I started getting the list at this address and on the bounce format. And yes, we are gearing up with it again, and are editing and compiling and collecting and all that. More news as it happens. Of course, any new volunteers for the project are welcome at any time, both reviewers & editors. --Neile ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 20:50:58 -0500 From: jeffw@triple-i.com (Jeff Wasilko) Subject: Re: More on subliminal promotion At 5:24 PM 2/2/94 -0600, wrote: >One of the lines in the header of one of my incoming ecto posts today went >like so: > >>Received: from TORII.TRIPLE-I.COM by ns1.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) > >If there can be a machine somewhere on the net that is named in honor of >Torii, why can't there be one named in honor of Happyy? :-) > Certainly! Why not! My other workstation is 'jane'. (-: Jeff -- Jeff Wasilko, Systems Rep., Information International Inc. +1 617 937 9400 (jeffw@triple-i.com, jeffw@jane.camex.com) "He took a course in sales, he's never been the same."--Jane Siberry ======================================================================== Subject: "I Should've Known" Date: Wed, 02 Feb 94 20:57:34 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu (to quote the ever-useful Aimee Mann, someone y'all will be pleased to know mjm and I agree about wholeheartedly). Last year was such a great music year that this year _had_ to be a banner concert year. Next week, the Blonde. Then the Cocteau Twins. Then Sarah McLachlan. Then (probably not, ) Tori Amos. I just heard on the radio that, finally, Pink Floyd is touring again. They're about to release an album and will be mounting another big tour. All I've heard about was a Philly show (don't recall the date) but the tour schedule should be available soon enough. The first time I saw them tour in support of _A Momentary Lapse of Reason_ in 11/87 changed my life. No, really! The next day I rushed out to buy _The Wall_ and _AMLoR_. Others followed later. By the time I saw the tour again in 06/88 I viewed music--both recorded and live presentation--a lot differently. So I guess now I have another album, and hopefully concert-in-DC to save up for. Wheee. Jeff ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 22:13:08 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Heya Bdays! HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Diane Burke!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Bob Lovejoy!! *HUGS* Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 22:18:07 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: UtP et al Tim Cook (who's fun to go CD shopping with, because he never once rolled his eyes when I shoved something at him and said "ask no questions!") said: > Vox and Q magazine reviewed Under the Pink in their mags. Vox gave it a > measly 6/10 (but they also gave LE 7/10 and raved about it!). Q gave it > a similar "***" rating. I don't care. I think its great! > > Victoria Williams - Happy Come Home was also reviewed in the re-releases > section. Vox gave her a 9/10 and Q "****" > > If anyone is interested I can scan these reviews in over the weekend and > send 'em to ecto? I think both UTP reviews have appeared in rdt, but I'd *love* to see the Victoria reviews! Thanks in advance Tim! Vickie > tim > (who hasn't listened to *any* of the 45 or so CDs he bought from Chicago > yet!) Oooh, make a list of all the ones you bought, please? I've even forgotten most of them. ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 22:58:10 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Lovejoy Subject: Hello there! Hi all, _Thanks!_ and *Hugs* to everyone for the birthday wishes! This panix account is a present from my wife, more or less, and it's great to be here! It's MUCH faster than Genie or even SAI ever was! In fact, while I was reading mail online, Mitch's recent posts arrived! Mitch, the Whitman administration killed plans for a major sports stadium on the Camden waterfront. The 76'ers and possibly the flyers expressed great interest in coming over. Whitman found that in order to lure them, massive tax breaks had been granted which would have possibly put the bond payback in jeopardy. The sad thing is that that city really needs a boost, and this might have improved the economy in less direct ways. Plans are official that Philly will build Spectrum II. Such are the ways of the world. WXPN, and the World Cafe, have been featuring the new Tori album all week. It is breathtaking! Musically, it's way ahead of Little Earthquakes (IMVHO) and I love everything I've heard! Definately one to get! Panix has lots of newsgroups. I looked into gaffa, and there was Chris (of Vickie fame!). I had no idea that Uli was such a big part of it too! This is one learning experience for me. Before long I bet I'll be comfortable with a unix shell and be using vi. So this is the real internet? Wow! Joe Zitt, if my last message from Genie didn't reach you, please send info on the New Jersey net connection you use! Thanks! And again, anyone else on panix, please write to me! A few tips never hurt... Thanks again for the birthday wishes, and see y'all later! Bob the amazed ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)