Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1022 ecto, Number 1022 Wednesday, 23 February 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Suppose they gave an IRC channel and nobody came Re: Because the Night sTuff Nina Simone Re: Suppose they gave an IRC channel and nobody came HaPpY Birthday ectopics Re: Nina Simone Listen Up! Performs March 6 Uncle Bonsai ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 15:41:28 CST From: Subject: Suppose they gave an IRC channel and nobody came This afternoon I happened to see someone at another terminal enjoying a real- time talk session. I asked if she was on IRC, and it turned out she was. I said I'd been trying to get that to work for ages, how'd she do it. Turns out it's now installed on the system here. After striking out trying to connect to the default server on the local client, and a couple of nondefault ones, I finally connected to IRC for the first time in my life. I issued the /join #ecto command, and as fate would have it, I was the only one there. Oh well. :-) Are these channels server-specific, or what? Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 22 Feb 94 14:30:01 PST From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Because the Night Because the Night is on the live Springsteen album. I believe it was not previously available on an official release, but I can't swear to that. Saw "Reality Bites" and found it to be mediocre. Hollywoods generalizations about Generation X (generX?) have gotten old remarcably quickly. Neal ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 23:05:59 -0500 (EST) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: sTuff Hi! Well, what a weekend. Thank the goddesses it was a long one... of course I was deathly ill on Sunday, which was the most gorgeous day of the year so far, but hey, that's the way the universe works, isn't it? I also was forced to miss my radio show again, which probably means I'm off the air for good, since technically if you miss two in a row you're gone, but I did have a sub for both weeks and both circumstances were totally beyond my control, so we'll have to see what happens... Anyway. Monday was one of the grossest days of the year so far, and in it woj and I ventured out to go CD shopping. For once, I netted a bigger haul than woj did- all used, yay. And a brand new 120-CD rack, so I have room to grow again. Be Very Afraid. :> What did I get? Heavenly Bodies, _Celestial_ I've had this one on tape for almost 3 years now, and admittedly haven't listened to it much, but I was in the mood for something like that, and it's great to fall asleep to. I plan on using it for background music for Public Service Announcements at WESU as well (assuming I still have a show, that is :P). Cranes, _Forever_ I've been wanting this for my own ever since it came out and I played it a lot on my show last spring and summer. The price was finally right, so... Patti Smith, _Dream Of Life_ I've been wanting *this* one on CD for oh, about five or so years. :) Thanks again to Michael Peskura for reminding me, and thanks to Cutler's Records for selling it cheap! Kirsty MacColl, _Titanic Days_ I'd heard it all the way through once before, and wasn't sure what I thought of it. Now I've heard it all the way through twice more, and I know I don't like it as much as _Kite_, but I have a feeling it will grow on me if I give it the chance. That's not such a big purchase as some people around here have been known to make in a day, but it's rather of a stretch for me. I'm hoping that tax return comes in soon! :} On Sunday I got the opportunity to participate in the Chat Session with Sarah McLachlan on the Nettwerk BBS, and in ten minutes proved the human brain's capacity to completely shut down when in the presence of one of its goddesses. :P I did make her laugh twice (or so she said), but I'm sure if I walked up to her after a show and introduced myself as the lameass moron from the Chat Session, she'd know me in a flash. It figures that I had a scant minute left in my logon time when she asked people to ask her "something juicy", and that the minute I got booted off line I suddenly remembered 18 things I was going to ask her/say to her. Sigh... oh well, it was fun, and was the best excuse I've had in ages for why my line was busy when my mother tried to call me. "I was talking to Sarah McLachlan, mom." "Really? Is she the one on the tape? I *love* her music- that's so wonderful that you got to talk to her!" :) I love my parents. They have cool taste in music. Later that night I caught the American "Possession" video on 120 Minutes. Not a bad video as those things go, but can't hold a candle to the Canadian version, imo. I do have tickets secured for Sarah's shows in both Hartford and New York City, yay. Next obstacle: trying to get tickets for Tori in NYC. Now *that's* going to be a trick. Anyone planning on going to stand in line at Symphony Space next Thursday care to pick me up a batch? :} And now they've changed the date of the KonvenTion, so I'm not sure at all if I can go any more. Argh!!! Life is hard. :P Time to change the CD ... Meredith meth@delphi.com Torville and Dean were ROBBED!!! ======================================================================== From: Tim Cook Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 10:03:40 GMT Subject: Re: sTuff > Torville and Dean were ROBBED!!! Absolutely! ======================================================================== Subject: Nina Simone Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 11:55:33 GMT From: tim@falcon.is (Tim Breitkreutz) Hmmm... nobody seems to be responding to this thread so I will try to fill in with some limited and very possibly wrong information. Nina Simone is (I believe) an American jazz/blues/pop singer who has had some hits, especially in the 60s. You can hear some of her music if you watch the movie The Assassin (?) with Bridget Fonda. (Anybody know if the original movie referred to Nina Simone too?). I think most of the music she has made has been fairly dark and brooding. Back in the old daze when I did my radio show in Edmonton I used to get a lot of requests for Nina Simone. I don't know if this was a localized phenomenon or if maybe just one obsessed fan kept calling the station. I hadn't heard of her before then... Tim (in Iceland) ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 12:14:34 +0000 From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk (Steve Fagg's Mac) Subject: Re: Suppose they gave an IRC channel and nobody came At 3:41 pm 22/2/94 -0600, U15289 wrote: >This afternoon ... stuff deleted ... > I >finally connected to IRC for the first time in my life. I issued the /join >#ecto command, and as fate would have it, I was the only one there. Oh well. >:-) > >Are these channels server-specific, or what? No, Mitch the channels aren't server specific. But sometimes the net splits up briefly and servers get isloated for a few minutes. If you issue a /who command for a popular group (e.g. #usa) you can tell if you're well connected (if #usa is empty, your server is almost certainly isolated, that channel's normally heaving). How long did you wait on the channel? Yesterday was a quiet day on #Ecto, there's quite a variability in the volume of people from day to day. I was on from Noon to 8pm GMT (6am to 2pm Chicago time). Try again today, if you can, before noon your time and I should be there! I've just been chatting with Alvin and Suzanne... -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** We tried to add it all up and got merely sunrise. *** *** Try putting that in a letter to someone in exile. *** ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 12:36:47 +0000 From: Terry Partis Subject: HaPpY Birthday Here's wishing a very HAPPY Birthday to Paula Shanks on February 25th Have a great day Paul, Peace Terry === Only in your eyes lies your soul ========================= Happy Rhodes === _ __ Jolly Hockeysticks _ __ / `-' ( ,,, / `-' ( ,,, | I I ||||||[:::] Terry (Tel Boy) Partis | I I ||||||[:::] \_.-._( ''' (tgp@ukc.ac.uk) \_.-._( ''' With a smile and a song - I'm HaPpy Let me sleep awhile and dream of Avalon and the Beltane fires.................. ............................................our souls entwined for all eternity ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 09:32:58 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (the king of spain) Subject: ectopics well, i've been quiet lately. as meredith mentioned, i was off in spain for a week and a half. i got back last tuesday, but i've been busy with other stuff (a long weekend in new haven, seeing ingrid karklins at the buttonwood, work, etc.). this morning's snowstorm in new jersey caused a few problems (for example, the bus that slid into the car behind me which then slid into mine) so i'm bagging work for today and took the time to reply to some of the ectomail piling up in the reply-to folder. look for some reviews soon - i have a bunch of stuff to babble about... jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu sez: >The "God" single is, of course, wonderful. ack! i just realized that i bought the "god" single the day before i left for spain a few weeks ago and that i haven't listened to it yet! ack ack! >_Hips and Makers_ is a very cool album too, though I'd hesitate in saying >that it's truly _ectofodder_. i have to side against anthony and drew with respect to _hips and makers_ - i think it's an excellent album. i'm not sure how to describe it coherently (not that that's stopped me before) but i find just the sound of kristin hersh's guitar playing to be incredibly compelling - in a lot of ways, the sound of her guitar affects me the same way that tori's piano playing does: it's spellbinding. as for the ectofodder comment, well, i think it is. granted, it ain't pretty, etheriel pop (it's gritty, acoustic stuff, to be frank), but that shouldn't stop the intrepid ectophile from checking this out. i'd especially recommend it for those who like early throwing muses since _hips and makers_ is sorta an acoustic analog to some of that early material. Neil K. Guy sez: >Hmm... Maybe someone should do an Hour of Power a buddy of mine did an hour of power a year or two ago. but he didn't do it the right way. instead of sending in a list of songs to play, he basically recorded the entire radio show before hand and sent that in. the cool part was how he planned the show - instead of just being a set of songs, he wrote a story around it: sean (that's his name) wakes up one morning and is consecutively possessed by the spirits of all the regular cbc deejays. he got all of them to record their parts as well. it's really groovy. :) Mike Matthews sez: >I also snagged the new U2 single Stay (So Close, So Far Away!). i dunno why, but i really like the video for that song. or at least parts of it - i hate the bits where bono is standing on the statue or falling...but the bits with u2 standing around as the other band practices are just fantastic! sez: >The recent thread on the fantasticity of snow reminded me of a picture which >ran in the University of Chicago catalog for a number of years. It was a long >shot of the center of the quadrangles in winter, in which was clearly visible, >off to one side, what might now be called a snowperson, with rather large breas >ts clearly in evidence. The caption began, "Snow sculpture on the circle...." >They sure knew how to obfuscate the obvious in the old days, did they not? :-) that reminds me of a few college antics which i'd rather not discuss here (though i have pictures if anyone's interested... ;) >WRT email addresses in the record industry to which to complain about the high >price of CD's: Nettwerk is the only label I know of that has one. Do they there are a couple other record labels on the net: soleilmoon, c'est la mort and scat are three that come to mind. as you might guess, labels who are on the net teend to be smaller one. which leads to an interesting observation: the smaller labels tend to have cheaper product (cds from scat were $10 postpaid until last summer. now they're $11). >Does Nettwerk overprice their CD's as badly as the rest? well, i think so. their big crime, however, is their postage costs which are ridiculously high. Suspended In Duct Tape sez: >woj has one of the limited-edition, hand-packaged Lanterna cassettes, >and it's truly brilliant. It's a lot more ambient than M7x, and I think the packaging is beautiful. the booklet is hand-bound, gauzy pages with art and liner notes and everything. the cover of the booklet is inlaid with an engraved metal plate with the number of the edition on it. the music is pretty nifty too - ambient guitar noodling (though the songs are a lot more advanced that simple noodling) with some other sounds thrown in for good measure. henry actually asked me to write a review for lanterna for their newsletter...but he decided not to use it in the end. sigh. hey, that reminds me: i did an interview with henry last summer for a fanzine - would folks like me to post it here? [whoa! cat trick! i just looked over at my bed and all three cats are soundly sleeping there. :)] Mike Mendelson sez: >Woj has been stroking Amy [Denio] for quite a while now i'm sure that both amy and i would like to know about this... ;) >What language does amy sing in, btw? usually english. sometimes nonsense. she doesn't like lyrics but likes to play with voice as an instrument. > Maestro Subgum and the Whole - At the Warthog Museum - CD $12 > (BTW, woj, did you ever get that CD I sent you?) yup. i've had time to give it a couple listens. look for a review in an upcoming post... Larry Spence sez: >I haven't heard _Tongues_ yet, but I've really liked everything else >that she's done so far. larry pretty much touched on all her easily available work except for a lp by the entropics called _spagga!_ which i think is brilliant. it's pre-tone dogs, but in the same avant jazz rock vein. it also features probably my fave amy denio tune, "lousy in the tropics" which also pops up as a different recording on a c/z sampler called _secretions_ though amy's calling herself couch of sound at that time (she has this habit of re-recording songs over and over and over again - witness "cia" which shows up in different version on _spagga!_, _birthing chair blues_ and _the early middle ages_). she also has a lot of cassettes out and about. i have one called _spoot_ (doff of the hat to michael peskura) which is pretty fun too. sez: >WRT Holly's query: Nina Simone is indeed a prominent jazz singer of long stan- >ding, with a long discography that should be easy and inexpensive to get at >least some of. there's a funky rock band from brandon, manitoba (i think it's brandon anyways) called farm fresh who do a song called "nina simone." unfortunately, the only recording thereof is a live dub muffled by crowd noise and an over-powered pa system so i have no idea what the lyrics are. the music is cool though - kinda hip hop rock. ezust@marge.cs.mcgill.ca (Alan Ezust) sez: >Gee whiz.. Am I the only person in the world who thinks Exorcise This >Wasteland is awesome and LSIMH is awful??? maybe. i like both but place the first before the second. i like the samples on _like stars in my hands_ and its trancey feel, but the darker edge of _exorcise this wasteland_ and it's overall sound appeals to me more. +woj ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 14:31 GMT From: dbl@cee.hw.ac.uk (David Lindsay) Subject: Re: Nina Simone Continuing the NS thread..... Nina Simone has been releasing material since (I think) the early sixties. She is still recording, and at least one album of new material has been released in the last couple of years. Her most popular hit (in Britain at least) was 'My Baby Just Cares for Me', but most of her stuff has a much more bluesy feel to it. She has penned quite a few protest songs in her time, with subject matter such as the three young black girls who were killed when their church was bombed (in Alabama or Mississippi?). She has lots of compilation albums available, of which I would recommend two: The Very best of Nina Simone (lots of cover versions of material by people like Leonard Cohen and Bob Dylan) and the Sony Walkman Nina Simone collection. This latter has the song "Feelin' Good" on it - definitely one of my favourite tracks by any artist. Her reputation as a difficult artist to work with has been very well documented. Her temper is unbelievably short! I watched an interview with one of her minders once, who said that he was employed by her record company to protect the public. He cited one incident where Ms. Simone attacked an autograph hunter with a beer bottle. The only person I know who has seen her live tells me that, while very emotionally charged, her performance (vocally) can be a bit ropey. She was classically trained at Juilliard (spelling?) but could not get enough work just as a piano player, so she decided to sing too. Anyway, if you can get your hands on any of her CD's they are well worth having. Her voice sounds like Bessie Smith through an octave divider, but it's great for singing along to if you've got a sore throat! Sorry I can only give a very general intro, but all my CD's and stuff are at home. byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, Davedoes P.S. Does anybody know much about Patty SmYth. I know she was in a group called Scandal (?) and that she used to do backing vocals on Don Henley's solo work. I also have her solo LP (the one with Don Henley), and am dead interested in getting more. I don't know if she's really ecto-fodder, but.................. ======================================================================== Date: 23 Feb 94 12:09:11 EST From: Mike Mendelson Subject: Listen Up! Performs March 6 ******************* LISTEN UP! ******************* The exciting new Chicago-based a cappella group, LISTEN UP!, will be performing at Wonderland at Leeds, a benefit for the Emanon Theater Company of Chicago. The show will be Sunday, March 6, 1994, from 7PM to 11PM. LISTEN UP! features the vocal talents of Steve Singer, Rebecca Klein, Ron Packowitz, and Mike Mendelson. In the last few months, LISTEN UP! has performed at several events in the Chicago area to enthusiastic audience response. They cover a broad range of a cappella styles, from Bobs' instrument-angled attack noo-wave to Rockapella rockers to Swing, Doo-Wop, Ballad and Jazz. Weeds bar is located at 1555 N. Dayton (near North and Clybourn) in Chicago. The evening also features live Jazz with John and Martin Bany, a Massage Booth, Silent Auction, and Raffle: Win a Rent-a-nerd. Your $8 admission benefits the Emanon Theater Company. Call 312-296-9818 for more information (isn't this enough?). Please come out and support local artistic talent in Chicago. For more information about Listen Up!, call Steve at 312-973-3428. Hope to see you March 6. P.S. Listen Up! is hoping to perform at the Harmony Sweepstakes on March 5 at the Copernicus Center in Chicago. Stay tuned for the latest Listen Up! performance schedule. ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 12:33:25 -0500 (EST) From: Sam Warren Subject: Uncle Bonsai I just wanted to send a quick note of thanks to all those who sent me information about Uncle Bonsai. It has been most helpful. You guys are great! -Sam ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)