Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #418 ecto, Number 418 Friday, 5 February 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: Re: colvin and vega re:suzanne vega in chicago Re: Supplemental random ... Re: Boston is a *great* city Re: somE CTOmments Re: Gopher!!!!! OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD! Re: Boston is a *great* city NARO sweets ======================================================================== Date: 05 Feb 93 10:20:49 EST From: Mike Mendelson Subject: Re: Re: colvin and vega meth: The other night she prefaced "In Liverpool" as it being something she wrote one night when thinking about someone she really cared for a lot but hadn't heard from in years, wondering what he's up to now. That person was from Liverpool- that's how I made the connection. I mean, how many guys from Liverpool can one New Yorker be lost for, anyway? ;) Yes, in fact I just saw her last night. Although she did not play Gypsy, she did preface In Liverpool (one of the strongest songs off 99, except for the rip-off Beatles ending, which I like, but lacks originality) by saying that it was about a fantasy (she either said dream or fantasy, but I think fantasy) about someone she once loved, the hunchback of Notre Dame, and something else.... my memory is pretty bad. But she did say something like this. Did anyone else attend the Chicago concert? I thought Kitchens of Distinction were quite good, for a band I'd never heard before. Also, it sounded like it took a few songs before the sound came together for SV. Alot of the vocals were muffled. The best vocal sound came through when it was just her and her guitar. Whenever the hold band kicked in, the vocals were largely lost. I thought Small Blue Thing was a definite hilite. She came back for the usual encores... Tom's Diner, a decent song, seems to have reached some improbable cult status, as people were La la la'ing along with it and interupting every verse with a chorus of Lalas. How bizarre. Maybe I'm just not with the program on this one. Also, there was still lots of noise, particularly audible over the quiet songs. Last time I saw, I remember Queen & Soldier being sung to a totally silent audience... that *was* so effective. This time it was not as cool. -mjm ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 10:23:23 CST From: Chip Subject: re:suzanne vega in chicago Mike Mendelson writes: > Did anyone else attend the Chicago concert? I thought Kitchens > of Distinction were quite good, for a band I'd never heard before. I was there. I didn't care for the Kitchens of D., though. Perhaps I was too excited waiting to see Suzanne. It seemed like their act went on forever and ever and as soon as Suzanne came out it was over in an instant. > Also, it sounded like it took a few songs before the sound came > together for SV. Alot of the vocals were muffled. The best Yeah. I think they had the volume up too high on the band on not on her. A coupla times I saw her motion to the sound guy to increase the sound on her mic. > back for the usual encores... Tom's Diner, a decent song, seems > to have reached some improbable cult status, as people were La la > la'ing along with it and interupting every verse with a chorus > of Lalas. How bizarre. Maybe I'm just not with the program on I wonder if this is typical of all her performances of this song or if the Chicago audience was different. She seemed a bit surprised by it. > over the quiet songs. Last time I saw, I remember Queen & Soldier > being sung to a totally silent audience... that *was* so effective. > This time it was not as cool. The crowd was annoying. I couldn't believe how much chatter was going on during her performance. It makes me wonder if many of the people came for the opening act. :-( Do you know (mike) if XRT taped the concert for broadcast? Vickie: were you there last night? (p.s. i'm jealous !!!) ======================================================================== Subject: Re: suzanne vega in chicago Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 11:51:15 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Chip writes: >Yeah. I think they had the volume up too high on the band on not >on her. A coupla times I saw her motion to the sound guy to increase >the sound on her mic. FWIW, the mix in DC sounded just dandy; I had no trouble with the volume of SV's vocals even when the full band was playing. >Mike Mendelson writes: >> back for the usual encores... Tom's Diner, a decent song, seems >> to have reached some improbable cult status, as people were La la >> la'ing along with it and interupting every verse with a chorus >> of Lalas. How bizarre. Maybe I'm just not with the program on >I wonder if this is typical of all her performances of this song or >if the Chicago audience was different. She seemed a bit surprised by it. Sounds like SV has simply changed her stage reaction; I can assure you that she wasn't surprised by it. At the DC show last week, the audience was singing the (non-existent...) chorus and Suzanne was actually egging them on! She'd pause between verses and gesture with her hands and give funny looks and the whole business. She seemed tickled by the whole thing. And Mike again: >> over the quiet songs. Last time I saw, I remember Queen & Soldier >> being sung to a totally silent audience... that *was* so effective. >> This time it was not as cool. In DC, the audience was pretty dead for Q&S except at the very beginning when there was a bunch of applause over the opening fingering. I'll sheepishly admit that I think I was the one who started that smattering of applause. I was so surprised to hear the song start up--it was the only song I would have been upset not to hear, and as the last song of the entire concert, I was pretty excited when I recognized it (which only took a note or two...;-) >The crowd was annoying. I couldn't believe how much chatter was going on >during her performance. It makes me wonder if many of the people came for >the opening act. :-( We seemed to have quite a contingent of KoD fans; people who yelled when songs they liked began, and so forth. Interestingly, two of my good friends in this area (who are both out of town 'til the Spring, unlucky sods!) are both big fans of KoD *and* SV, and would view this as a perfect lineup. Jeff ======================================================================== From: meth@aol.com Subject: Re: Supplemental random ... Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 13:20:58 EST Hi! Jeffy, your story about tailgating is true. Most people don't know that the little defect was ever corrected. The Pinto was last made in 1979- in 1980 Ford introduced the Escort to take its place. (WHY do I know things like that???) Meredith meth@aol.com ======================================================================== From: meth@aol.com Subject: Re: Boston is a *great* city Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 13:27:27 EST Hi! Ingrid Karklens is performing at The Buttonwood Tree in Middletown, CT on Tuesday, February 9. (Or so I've heard- haven't gotten around to calling the venue for a time yet.) Any area Ectophiles who are interested in going should drop me e-mail ASAP. :) Meredith meth@aol.com ======================================================================== From: meth@aol.com Subject: Re: somE CTOmments Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 13:40:32 EST Hi! First, Vickie, ENVYENVYENVYENVYENVY I hope my copy of _Equipoise_ doesn't get lost in the forwarding morass of the US Postal Service... :P With all these new people involved, whom should I call to try to set up a radio interview? Dirk doesn't believe I can remember things from the age of 3 or 4. Well, working it out with my parents I've figured out my earliest memory is from around 9 months old- and since Mom remembers it too, it's a real memory. I also distinctly remember marching downstairs to inform the parentals of my newly-decided-upon nickname, and every time I hear "Dream Weaver" I get this recollection of standing in the kitchen licking the chocolate frosting bowl. I know people who have a memory that goes back 5 years, no matter what- so if they're 23 now, they can't remember a thing from before 18. I think that's weird. I know I have a memory that goes back longer than most people, but hey, I'm not gonna complain! :> So I know that when I'm 70 I'll be able to recall the moment I first heard _Equipoise_, and it will make me smile. :) Meredith meth@aol.com ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 11:01:44 PST From: tsai@ikos.com (Finney T. Tsai) Subject: Re: Gopher!!!!! If you felt interested in Gopher, you could refer to the newsgroup: Comp.infosystems.gopher which has a monthly posting telling you how to get the source code, and FAQ...etc. As far as I know, most Gopher servers are installed on Unix systems, some on PC(though just heard someone had problems with PC/NFS), some on Mac. In general, Gopher is a public service. If you intended to use it personally, you'd better to read the recent discussions in the newsgroup first. -lazy finney --------------------------- Where's the ocean Where's the moments I once knew inside my heart? -- Toni Childs ======================================================================== From: "Michael Blackmore" Date: 5 Feb 93 14:08:40 EST Subject: Special K: >The NARO is still there as I went to see the Crying Game there just >last night. On a totally trivial note, does the NARO still carrying those really good coconut macaroons? The NARO and its macaroons made up a large part of my teen years! Chris: >even one Brady Bunch album (which, at the time, I used to Ugly truth be known so did I! And there's floating around in my apartment a Brady Bunch novel! Vickie: You received it! I'll just be on pins and needles waiting for mine! (I ordered Rhodes I and Rearmament about a week before Equipoise, so I'll have just a wide variety of Happy music to listen to next week or so!) Sam: I finally rented Spirit of '76 last night and my apartmentmate and I were roaring during it. Just picking out the music in the background was entertaining enough! It was interesting seeing the whole thing. I'd only really seen the last 20-25 minutes on cable before. I can see where I got confused about the plot. They do go back to find the Constitution, but they don't know what it is. They spend most of their time studying 70s culture and never mentioned the fact they made a mistake in the era. It's definitely worth one viewing though. Although, a friend of mine and I are contemplating using it as a showpiece in a 70s party. I went to one back in 83/84 so now it's time again! ****** I'm in a strong exploring music phase now and am looking for any and all suggestions! I bought my first Loreena McKennit album "The Visit" the other day and was pleased (it wasn't much of a risk since a friend of mine had sent me a tape with excerpts off several of her albums). I also bought my first Enya album "Shepard's Moon". A couple of friends said buy that one because it's the best and all the others sound like it. It was o'kay, nothing to die for, but it may grow on me! Anyone have recommendations on what would be a good first Joni Mitchell album to buy? I've avoided her music like the plague (never heard a single bit of it!), partly because all the people I knew who loved her, I hated! Well, hate a strong word, perhaps "less-than- tolerated" would be a better phrase. But I'm over that and am willing to take the plunge! - Michael B. ("Don't give up on us baby" - David Soul. What a scary album that must have been!) ======================================================================== Subject: OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD! Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 14:18:19 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu It appears I'm Number Two. Equipoise just arrived!!!!! Now I get to *listen* to it! FWIW, I *mailed* my order last Friday morning; the CD arrived exactly one week later. Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Fairies are the perfect people to do this | |(suffering Bad Grammar) | sort of work. Biologically, their upper | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | bodies are strong enough to wield a pickaxe...." | ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 11:26:57 PST From: tsai@ikos.com (Finney T. Tsai) Subject: Re: Boston is a *great* city :> :> Also it might be worth checking out Ingrid Karklins at the Middle East on :> February 10th (at the Upstairs stage). I think Meredith was supposed to :> see her in CT, but I forget when. [If you do Meredith, let us know what :> you thought!] :> You certainly make we Bay Area guys envy! :) Anyway, do you know Ingrid Karklins has any albums except for "A Darker Passion?" Will she have a tour to SF, Bay Area soon? For those who don't know about Ingrid Karklins here's a brief intro.: Ingrid Karklins grew up in a music and dance Latvia family which forms the basis of her music. With a self-released tape, she built a reputation in the Austin, Texas local community. "A Darker Passion" is her first album as far as I know. Using an ancinet lap harp, violin, and sampler, Ingrid has created a dreamlike and nightmarish music that combined Latvian melodies and American lullabies. O yes, can't wait to receive the new Happy too! -finney --------------------------- Where's the ocean Where's the moments I once knew inside my heart? -- Toni Childs ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 14:20:05 EST From: Laura Clifford Subject: Re: For a first Joni Mitchell album, I'd definitely say go with 'Court and Spark'. 'Blue' is another good one.... Laura ======================================================================== From: special K Subject: NARO sweets Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 14:46:45 EST > Special K: > >The NARO is still there as I went to see the Crying Game there just > >last night. > On a totally trivial note, does the NARO still carrying those really > good coconut macaroons? The NARO and its macaroons made up a large > part of my teen years! Hmmm, I haven't seen any macaroons, but I have seen some wonderful looking baklava and scrumptious peanut butter cookies. I'll check more carefully for macaroons next time. I like the NARO because they serve Quibel sparkling water and have yeast flakes for the popcorn (the fact that a schezuan restaurant which make steamed veggie dumplings that are out of this world is next door to the NARO helps too). Sorry for the culinary diversion, people. Get back to your Equipoise's'es's now. special K ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)