Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #416 ecto, Number 416 Friday, 5 February 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* colvin and vega Vive la difference, if any The world's most dangerous talk show? Rosalie Sorrels and Ingrid Karklins O **HAPPY** DAY!!!!!! Re: Supplemental random ... Re: colvin and vega Re: That's a moog point.... Boston is a *great* city shameful secrets/Wombles O **HAPPY** DAY Revisited Re: Silly post Guilty Pleasures ======================================================================== Date: 04 Feb 93 15:06:54 EST From: Mike Mendelson Subject: colvin and vega Mr. P.: > WRT Kristi's followup to my discourse on kd lang's appearance on Leno > last Friday: now that you mention it, I think her bon mots _were_ about > her youthful aspirations to the roller derby. She and I both remain > interested in hearing more about Shawn Colvin's appearance later the same > night, if anybody stayed awake through it. Well I missed kd (bummer) but caught Shawn Colvin by surprise. Er... she caught me by surprise... so I taped her and Jay's inane (as usual) follow up. He can be such a cornball doofus. Man, you should have seen him with Stephanie Seymour (well, ok, she did look kinda scary). Um, oh yeah, well, Shawn did I Don't Know Why, which is a good song, but I dare say the least strong song on an exceptionally strong album, Fat City. But I guess it is ripe for singlehood. Anyway, the rendition was, to me, unremarkable, as was the post-partem banter, in which the nation discovered that Tennessee charged poor, woeful Ms. C. for her chicken sticks at their inaugural do. BFD, if y'ask me. Jay kept lamenting that everyone went but he. Get with the program, JL... you're gonna have some serious competishun soon. Colvin looked gorgeous (to me) as *usual*, despite being a little overboard on the makeup (why do I think she has a tendency to do this... perhaps her Idaho(??Montana?) roots show through in poor rouge skills). OK, next hot topic... someone (meth?) mentioned that Suzanne Vega (tonight's the night, can't *wait*)'s songs Liverpool and (?) Gypsy were about the same broken relationship. (correct me if I'm misquoting) How do you know this and what was the relationship? Are you deducing this purely from lyrics (doubtful)? BTW, for those of you who may have forgotten, The White Album is still nothing short of *BRILLIANT*. If you've never listened to it, even if you've heard all the songs on the radio, you won't regret it. Song writing and guitar arrangements par excellence. Still fresh in 1993. This could be a year to remember. -mjm ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1993 15:06:31 CST From: Subject: Vive la difference, if any Quoth Alan: >What is it that sets Nu Shooz >apart from all those other pop-synth bands anyway? The most important difference that comes to mind is that Nu Shooz had Val Day as the lead singer, whereas all those other pop-synth bands had other individu- als performing that function. Apart from that, I am at a loss to isolate any- thing of substance that sets NS apart from the others, with the possible excep- tion of having the same initials (more or less) as the machine that this mail- ing list runs on--which is precisely the sort of attenuated cosmic connection that gives them a certain _prima facie_ relevance to what we do here that is not shared universally with those others. Birthday greetings to Mr. Potatoe Head himself, Dan Quayle, 46 years young and 15 days into his extended vacation. Mitch -------------------------- "Chicago in the 60s was a melting pot. Everybody sat in their own pot and melted." --Sue O'Halloran ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1993 15:38:03 CST From: Subject: The world's most dangerous talk show? Quoth Mike: >Er... she caught me by surprise... so I taped her and Jay's >inane (as usual) follow up. He can be such a cornball doofus. If it were August already, we could watch Letterman in that time slot instead. In the meantime, we'l have to muddle through somehow, but I'm sure we'll make it :-). >as was the post-partem banter, in which the nation discovered that You sure you're not really thinking of last season's finale of _Murphy Brown_? (It is Mr. Potatoe head's birthday, after all :-). ) Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 14:43:14 PST From: tsai@ikos.com (Finney T. Tsai) Subject: Rosalie Sorrels and Ingrid Karklins Finally, happy back on line again! Thanks, Jessica. Just saw a catalog which listed out two interesting names: Rosalie Sorrels and Ingrid Karklins. Is there anybody has ever heard of them? Rosalie has an album which won the independent label '91 INDIE award. It seems I should try this one first? Any comments? Suggestions? Do both come from Texas? Lots of questions. -finney ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 18:56:41 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: O **HAPPY** DAY!!!!!! Just got home, just logged on, haven't read anything yet.. (amiamiamithefirst???) I GOT IT!!! (More later...) Vickie ======================================================================== From: boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Christopher Boek) Subject: Re: O **HAPPY** DAY!!!!!! Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 11:20:52 EST > > Just got home, just logged on, haven't read anything yet.. > > (amiamiamithefirst???) > > I GOT IT!!! > > (More later...) > > Vickie > Oh, joy and rapture at the first of the ectophiles to be so blessed. One eagerly awaits your ensuing review (as if we can't guess that it will be something along the lines of "IT'S FANTABULOUSLY WONDERFUL" or some such *:). I'll probably be amongst the last of the ectophiles to receive mine, but I'll certainly be one of the first in my country to receive it. I wonder if she will become more widely known here as a result of Equipoise ... It'd be nice!! Probably a couple of weeks to go for me *sigh*. Chris. P.S. I've been hearing a little bit of Wendy Matthews lately. I really like the sound so I may just have to go and get her album. -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||Christopher Boek - boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | || Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | / "Anybody remotely interesting is mad in |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| \_/\_/\_/\_/\__/(:*- some way or another" ======================================================================== From: meth@aol.com Subject: Re: Supplemental random ... Date: Thu, 04 Feb 93 19:45:48 EST Hi! Hey Mitch, take it easy on the hapless Ford Pinto. My own vehicle was a white (until the rust got the better of it :}) 1979 model, which my sister bought so new they hadn't even had time to put a sticker on it yet. In October she signed Ole Paint over to me, and since then *I've* had to deal with getting new tires, front-end alingnments, an entire new brake system, etc. etc. This week's antics involve not starting until I take the cover off the air filter, stick a pen in the metal thingie in the middle of the filter (ooh, I'm such the mechanic) and try again. (Thanks to woj for the tip on that one!) Let me just point out that the last model year of Pintos to be afflicted with the unfortunate exploding gas-tank syndrome was 1976. I'm safe to follow. :> I expect to hit 100,000 miles in mid-May. Let's see when and where it really happens (assuming the thing is still alive then). So, Mitch, what problems did that 1978 renter have, huh? (And thanks for the surprise in the mail today, btw. :) Meredith meth@aol.com ======================================================================== From: meth@aol.com Subject: Re: colvin and vega Date: Thu, 04 Feb 93 20:13:34 EST Hi! Mike, you asked how I knew about Suzanne's failed love life. :) The first two tours I saw her on, when she performed "Gypsy" she preceded it by the story of how her very first love was when she was a summer camp counselor, and another counselor at the camp was from Liverpool. He was apparently a punked-out type of guy, and they went out all summer, then he had to go back to England. The final night as they were sitting around the campfire (so the legend goes :), she wrote "Gypsy" for him. "And in return, he gave me his bandana." The other night she prefaced "In Liverpool" as it being something she wrote one night when thinking about someone she really cared for a lot but hadn't heard from in years, wondering what he's up to now. That person was from Liverpool- that's how I made the connection. I mean, how many guys from Liverpool can one New Yorker be lost for, anyway? ;) Meredith meth@aol.com ======================================================================== From: jmg@rocket.com (Jim Gurley) Subject: Re: That's a moog point.... Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 14:17:04 PST AlanM wrote: >Dick Hyman's "moog" music... Tell more. Is this guy's stuff still available? Are we talking early/late 60s let's experiment with the sound of stereo stuff here? Also, have you ever heard of Stereolab? They are heavily into the "moog" sound and would probably harken back to the Dick Hyman stuff. The moog is a much maligned instrument nowadays. I'd like to see Eno try to treat one, like he says he treats all the other instruments on his albums. Geoff worte: >I happen to love the ELO sound... Well, I'm not trying to trash Jeff Lynn and stuff. It's just that that sound really typifies the mid-seventies rock for me (maybe it's my age??) and it's painful for me to listen to their version of Roll Over Beethoven, etc. I'm not trying to put your tastes down or anything like that...just not my cup 'o java. Like I said in my original "Mall of Flames" post, I listen to Steely Dan sometimes (much to my SE Neile's distaste)...how much more mainstream can you get?? Jim ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Supplemental random ... Date: Thu, 04 Feb 93 21:01:13 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Meth shares: >Let me just point out that the last model year of Pintos to be afflicted with >the unfortunate exploding gas-tank syndrome was 1976. I'm safe to follow. :> A good friend of mine at school drove a white pinto for a year or two (think it was an '81 or '82? somethin' like that; from the last year the car was produced) and we discovered an interesting phenomenon: the car had a magical anti-tailgating device hidden on the rear bumper. Folks would tailgate just 'til they were close enough to read the word "pinto" and then back way the hell off! Jeff ======================================================================== Subject: Boston is a *great* city Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 00:27:39 EST From: Angelos Kyrlidis Hi, Well since I *still* haven;t received Equipoise I can at least be temporarily happy musically by the concerts in Boston next week. Apologies to non-Bostonians... BUT DO NOT MISS Arson Garden at Bunratty's on the 12th of February. They are truly amazing both live and on record, and a scan through last years digests will reveal more about their stop in Cambridge and their acoustic and electric shows. I wonder if they have a new record or if they are still touring in support of _Wisteria_, one of my 10 faves of 1992. Also it might be worth checking out Ingrid Karklins at the Middle East on February 10th (at the Upstairs stage). I think Meredith was supposed to see her in CT, but I forget when. [If you do Meredith, let us know what you thought!] And finally The Story will be playing at Johnny D's on the 18th of February. That's all for now. Angelos (who wishes Vickie would post her first impressions ASAP :) ) ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 00:57:10 EST From: kosky@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Anthony Kosky) Subject: shameful secrets/Wombles I've actually caught up on Ecto digests. won't last though.... Michael Blackmore writes: >Anthony: says "Once, an even longer time ago, I owned ALL of The >Wombles records. There. I bet no one can beat that!" Forgive your >humble servant's ignorance but who are the Wombles? Of course, maybe >I really don't want to know, it might scare me. ;-) It is indeed scary.... The Wombles were (are?) small teddy-bear-like animals that lived in burrows on Wimbledon Common. They collected the litter and rubbish that big people (us) left lying around, and used it to make things. Also they were all named after places, because they all got there names by sticking a pin in Great Uncle Bulgaria's map of the world with their eyes closed. My favorite womble was always Oranoco. Originally they were in a series of childres books (I can't remember the author, Elizabeth something I think), which the BBC made into a (very good) childrens tv series. The theme song for the tv series was written by Mike Batt and had the lyrics Underground, overground, Wombling free, The Wombles of Wimbledon Common are we, Making all use of the things that we find, Things we see everyday, folks leave behind, ......... (this is from memory and may not be accurate). This tune became quite popular, and so they put together an album of Wombling Songs (also written by Mike Batt). There followed two more albums: Remember You're A Womble and Super-Womble (a double album). As pop stars they were quite astonishingly succesful, and appeared on top of the pops several times (well actually big people dressed up in Womble costumes). Disclaimer: I was very young at the time, and it wasn't my fault. -Anthony ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 1:03:16 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: O **HAPPY** DAY Revisited IT's FANTABULOUSLY WONDERFUL!!! Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 1:11:14 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Silly post Steve Fagg wrote: > Angelos Kyrlidis wrote: > > > > +---------------------+ > > / | \ / \ / | \ > > \ Happy / =|= \Rhodes / > > \_____/ | \_____/ > > E Q U I P O I S E > > __+__ > > > > This ought to go on a T-shirt. How about a 1993 edition of the Ecto 'T'? YES!! I agree wholeheartedly! Angelos, I love your scales. I don't think I told you, but I do. You will be quite pleased to know that on the back of the CD, and on the back of the CD booklet, there are sillouettes (sp?) of scales. You're a mind-reader!! Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1993 21:10:17 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Potter Subject: Guilty Pleasures Skaludy here. I didnt actually buy any records until 9th grade, if you can believe it. This is odd since I have always been really into music. In 2nd grade, I got for my birthday that prized little AM radio. I could be found lurking all over the place listening with the earphone (remember those! Nasty little off-white things you plug into one ear?? Always gunked up with your sisters ear-wax?) I did buy a single sometime in elementary school, Rock On by David Essex, which to this day I think is a pretty cool song. Someone did a remake of it recently--anyone know who? I soaked up whatever music was available to me. The AM radio got me into pop music of the early seventies, but just songs, not albums or artists, since everything and everyone comes and goes so quick on AM pop radio. The neighbors, the Turners, would always pile us with extra stuff whenever us kids went over to borrow something. We just wanted a roll of TP, or an egg, and came back with half a chicken, some cake, and whatever else this overly affectionate and children-missing elderly couple could think of. Anyway, one time they foisted upon me and my little brother all their singles and a player that just plays singles! What a score!! Lot of neat R & B stuff (they were black), Lot of 50s hits. My fav was Sherry Baby by the Four Seasons. And then there was Dad's Roy Orbison records, Secret Agent Man being my fav. And then I discovered that a used mustang we got around 73 had a secret panel in the dash with an 8 track player in it! Dad took it out and used it in his bedroom, which was connected to me and Scott's by double doors. Thing about 8-tracks, for you young-uns out there, is that they play over when done, and over and over. So every single 8-trak tape he had I know intimately, and grew to love them. Carpenters, Beatles, 50s & 60s compilations he got from tv ads, Don Maclean, John Denver, Olivia Newton John, Gordon Lightfoot (think that one was Mom's). I know every single lyric to all of these, once I get started. It is scary just how much junk must be piled up in my head. I can sing along with so Many old songs, even ones I never really liked. While I was in Hawaii (my junior high school years), It was strictly disco/pop, as there were only a couple of stations out there. No AOR had hit the Islands yet. The next technological breakthru for me was getting a TAPE RECORDER!! It was Magnificent. Huge thing. Terrible sound. I didnt care. I would prop up the chitzy mike next to the speakers of our cheapo Soundesign receiver (which had the 8-trak still hooked up to it), and wait with my finger on the Record and Play buttons ready to make my first radio mix tapes. I just recently listened to one of those _PHEW!_ Memories long forgotten flow like a flood, mostly good. And I knew all the words. Whoah. Trippy. As I typed that (here in the lab, and Roger is listening to the radio, a classic rock station) on comes one of the songs on one of those tapes, Heart, Crazy on You! My pubescent body responded to that song with all sorts of hormone spurts. Wow. "..And you kept me alive (?) with your sweet-flowin' love..." Then there was the Sisters music. More beatles (Abbey Road, Sgt. Peppers.), Neil Diamond, and all those great 70's rock bands. Yes even Sabbath-why be embarrassed? They were a lot more substantial than much rock today. Zep, Van Halen, Foreigner, Bad Co., ELO, Boston, you know. Genesis, ELP. Alan Parsons. When I finally bought my first album, It was when I had finally discovered somehing that no one else in my family knew about or had yet: New wave. It started in 1978, and back then, believe it or not, The Cars were serious New Wave. Only played on the alternatve station, KROQ. I loved them to extremes. 2nd album was Elvis, Armed Forces, 3rd was Queen Jazz. All of these I still love and am not embarrassed about. Even the Low-Fi disco mixes I made in Hawaii I still love. "Be who you are; Be strong; Be true." --HR Skaludy spotter@darwin.bio.uci.edu ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)