Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #410 ecto, Number 410 Monday, 1 February 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: More Eddi in rec.music.misc Spirit of '76 misc Zap Mama in Rolling Stone and other stories Correction CALLING ALL ECTOPHILES!! CATCH THIS TOUR! Re: Oh, Happy Happy, Joy Joy! Re: Warpaint Happy rumor from a record store Shawn Colvin John Prine... The Roches A quick travel poll Soul-Baring Admissions, Inc. ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 22:11:41 GMT From: brage@sphere.home.id.dth.dk (Jens P. Brage) Subject: Re: More Eddi in rec.music.misc Hi! Vickie wrote: > Is it Eddi as in Edy(reedy, needy) or as in Eddie (teddy)? I don't know, but I've always assumed it was like "Eddie" (believing that it was a modification of Eddie). > These appeared in rec.music.misc in response to my post. I hadn't > checked rmm and then I realized that someone might have responded > my post. I was right. I almost missed this. I guess Ectophiles > don't read rmm, eh? At least I don't. Nice catch! > ------------------------------------ > From: A.L.Radtke@bradford.ac.uk (Drew Radtke) > > Well, if there are any Eddi Reader completeists out there (insert 'a' > for US in that word) you can hear her pre-FA on the 1984ish LP 'Perhaps' > from Scottish band, the Associates. She does co-vocals on the track 'The > Best of You' with the god-like genius, Billy MacKenzie. That was on WEA > (Warner Bros) in the UK, still available as a reduced-price record I > think. > From: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford) > Getting back to the original topic though, one that *might* be of interest > to Eddi Reader fans is John Foxx's most recent album, _In Mysterious Ways_ > in 1985. A female vocalist called "Sadenia Reader" who sounds very like > Eddi guests on several tracks. Anyone know for sure if it is her? > -------------------------------------- > A couple of things...Boo Hewerdine toured with Laurie Freelove, > and Sadenia is indeed Eddi's real name. Interesting, yet another couple of albums to watch out for (this list is ruining me! ;-)) They sound rather obscure, though. > and I wish I had because I would have found > it first and then *I'd* have something that Charley doesn't have! > Pfft!) So, so, don't cry, you'll get him the next time! ;-) === On a totally unrelated note: The new Cherryh, "Chanur's Legacy", is great! Jens P. Brage | Dance the circle dance of dreaming, brage@sphere.home.id.dth.dk | lonely by the crystal sea. /\ | Spin the web of mist and moonlight, \SphereSoft | come, beloved, and follow me. ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 17:05 EST From: Sam Warren Subject: Spirit of '76 Michael B, spoke of the movie Spirit of '76: >>>And I vaguely remember some scene with everyone (huge >>>crowds hundreds, thousands!) dancing to the Bay City Rollers' >>>Saturday Night (S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y!) And I responded: >>They were in a disco. But he corrected: >Actually, the scene I'm referring to is at the end of the movie and is >distinctly outdoors. When the heroes return to the future. And I suddenly realized: Oh! The film did have an ending, didn't it? I sort of dozed off somewhere in the middle. So, Michael, may I just say that you're absolutely correct. They do indeed return to the future (but they don't run into Michael J. Fox). There is some kind of grand parade at the end, and there are hundreds of people watching and cheering. So although they were, at one point, in a disco, that was not the scene to which you referred. Sorry I jumped the gun on that one! ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 19:00:26 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (l.l. cool bean) Subject: misc Mitch sez: >> I don't know about the rest of you but to me this screams EMI! Virgin! 4AD! > >Hopefully not the first of these. i agree...emi is awful. these were the folks who predicted that the cd format would not last. amongst countless other blunders. >Subjectively, I think Happy would fit in best with 4AD's stable of artists, >notwithstanding that that label, if I remember correctly, is now distributed >(at least) by one (I forget which one) of the same six-headed cartel that's >cornered most of the record market at home and abroad. well, warner brothers now handles most of the american releases for 4ad. 4ad still handles the others. it's just a distribution deal which means cheaper priced albums for those artists. warner has nothing to do with the musical content, though they sometimes muck with the packaging. all things considered though, i can't see happy on 4ad either. not only cos ivo watts-russell is a pinhead, but also cos i think that 4ad has developed a stigmata with it's "4ad-sound" thingie. i'd rather not have to dole that out on happy myself... stevew@hal.com (Steve Williams) sez: >woj may be hallucinating again (way to go woj!), but you're >not listening closely enough, Meredith. :-) you tell her! she never listens to me! :) woj ======================================================================== Subject: Zap Mama in Rolling Stone and other stories Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 20:39:47 EST From: Angelos Kyrlidis Hi, I was feeling Happy today :) and so I decided to splurge and do my usual Happy thing, ie spend money on CDs. It turned out to be a worthwhile thing since I found Ingrid Karklins' CD that has achieved cult status in ecto, and received a bonus Jeffrey Gaines promo CD for free which contains an amazing cover of Peter Gabriel's 'In your Eyes' (my all time favourite PG song along with 'Lay your hands on me' and 'Games without Frontiers' and 'Love to be loved' and 'Humdrum'). So anyway I picked up the latest Rolling Stone which had this interesting blurb on Zap Mama: 'True, it's not as glamorous or high-tech a piece of equipment as a digital synthesizer or sampler, but the human voice continues to reign as the most complex and most powerful musical instrument on earth. Listening to the hypnoticsweeps and whoops on Zap Mama's _Africa Invades Europe_ (Luaka Bop/Warner [David Byrne's label- my comment] ) you soon forget that every one of these otherwordly sounds is coming from the throats of five women from Belgium. Zap Mama is led by a Belgian Zairean named Marie Daulne who seems most fascinated by the throbbing, ethereal, traditional vocalizing of Zaire's M'buti forest people but who also draws ideas from Spain, Cuba and the Middle East. Previously, other groups have attempted a poly-global sound, but the a cappella women of Zap Mama are the first who have made this concept work- perhaps because they focus on the one instrument common to all world music.' I also got Sugar's _Cobalt blue_ which is *AMAZING*. This is my first real exposure to Bob Mould, and I guess I will have to do some further investigating. Angelos 'some hope some glory, some future before me some day before the glory fades away' - Tom Robinson ======================================================================== Subject: Correction Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 20:51:49 EST From: Angelos Kyrlidis Make that Sugar's 'Copper blue'.... New cds new titles, hard to remember... :) ^^^^^^ just for the record. Angelos ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 18:26:37 PST From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Subject: CALLING ALL ECTOPHILES!! Was everyone expecting this, or has no one been able to think of what to say to the stunning news that _Equipoise_ is *now available*! I sent in my order last week, so I hope to be one of the first to experience the wonder, the joy, the excitement, the . . . well, I can see why none of the rest of you have said anything yet :-). ======================================================================== Subject: CATCH THIS TOUR! Date: Sat, 30 Jan 93 00:09:28 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu I just got back from seeing Kitchens of Distinction and Suzanne Vega at the Lisner Auditorium of George Washington University. WOW. KoD was pretty good; I'd heard a couple of their albums before and enjoyed their music. It was far too loud, though. So it goes. They played for 45 mintues, no encore, and then the next 30 minutes was spent preparing for Suzanne's band. They came on around 9:15 and played for over an hour and a half. The band was incredibly tight, particularly since this was only the third show of the tour!! SV's voice sounded great, and she was in a _wonderful_ mood. I wasn't really sure what to expect, never having seen her before, but I certainly wasn't expecting the incredible amount of playful banter with the audience! She was laughing and giggling and telling stories and joking about her appearance on local WHFS this afternoon (which I missed, ). The arrangements of the music were great, and the selection of songs was virtually perfect. I might have traded one of the tunes from _Days of Open Hand_ for one more from _Solitude Standing_, but she didn't skip a single song that I really wanted (and expected) to hear (I would have enjoyed hearing "Men Will Be Men" but had no expectation of it!) To some extent, the show reminded me of Happy's concert, in that it was a mix of synth/percussion/electric guitar stuff alternating with really, really folky stuff on just the acoustic guitar (with maybe bass accompaniment). And there are some slightly revamped arrangements of some of the songs; it's definitely not just a rehash of album versions. Here follows a playlist; if you're going to see the tour and want to be surprised, quit now. (btw, as usual, the set list is not really in order; the first and last 4 songs are correct, and some of the pairs and triplets in the middle are correct. but I once again forgot a pen, and I just can't remember the order of 22 songs when I'm that pumped up...;-) Jeff (begin set list) Fat Man and Dancing Girl Rock in this Pocket Marlene on the Wall 99.9F^o Small Blue Thing Blood Sings Tired of Sleeping As a Child Neighborhood Girls (If You Were) In My Movie In Liverpool Tired of Sleeping Left of Center When Heroes Go Down As Girls Go Institution Green Luka Blood Makes Noise Men in a War Tom's Diner The Queen and the Soldier |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Fairies are the perfect people to do this | |(suffering Bad Grammar) | sort of work. Biologically, their upper | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | bodies are strong enough to wield a pickaxe...." | ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 30 Jan 93 1:21:13 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Oh, Happy Happy, Joy Joy! Jim Gurley writes: > Hi! Hi, welcome to Ecto! > I guess it's time I quit lurking/watching/peeking around corners, whatever > you call it...I've been getting the digests for a couple months, ever since > my SO, Neile (yes, the Canadian True North woman :)...ever since we got > Happy's WARPAINT on spec at our local Tower, oh last fall. Since then > we've gotten the complete oeuvre (to date, can't wait till the re-alignment > of all the stars on Feb. 9). Got really obsessive about Ecto/Rearmament; > can hear it again and again without the music sounding old or predictable. > Only certain songs off RI&II have the same effect on me. But then with > Neile around I get enough exposure to RI&II that I'm growing to like it. Great, thank you for posting! (I *love* Happy stories) > Am fond of most of the singers mentioned on ecto so far, but has anybody > here heard of Television, Pere Ubu, Richard Thompson, Najma (sp), Ali Hasan ^^^^^ That's the correct spelling. I have 3 albums by her, Ghazals by Najma, Atish, and Qareeb. Qareeb (on Schanache Records) is by *far* my very favorite. All the songs are great (IMHO) and her voice is so beautiful. She's very exotic and mysterious. I wonder what she's up to now. What do you and Neile (hi!) have by Najma? Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 30 Jan 93 1:35:17 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Warpaint Tim Albaugh writes: > Greetings, Hi to you, welcome to Ecto! > I recently purchased Warpaint. I found it at Camelot at Bellevue Square > in Bellevue Washington (land of the great Inauguration Day Storm). > After listening to it several times, all I can say is....WOW! This CD > is VERY impressive. I like the second half of the CD more than I do the > first. Which one of her other CD's would you suggest I buy next? I'm so glad you like Warpaint. I like the 2nd half best too. You should definitely get...uh...um...Equipoise next! After that, hmmm, I don't know. Ecto? VI? Rearmament? VI? Eeeny Meeny Miney Moe... Vickie ======================================================================== From: alan moorse Date: Sun, 31 Jan 93 14:05:13 -0500 Subject: Happy rumor from a record store I stopped in Troy's only decent used-disc store yesterday and overheard an interesting Happy rumor. I'm just now reading mail from Jan. 26, so this may be old rumor for y'all, but here 'tis: Rumor has it that Happy is providing vocals for a project by (and please forgive the spelling here) Andreas Vollenwinder. The record store proprietor and his friend had heard this rumor Friday night at a rent party for a local co-op coffee house here in town. He also said two of the performers, The People and Tina Ward and the Matter Babies, were great and will both have second recordings out soon. I've heard the Matter Babies (with or without Tina) on local college radio, and they're OK or better. Another possibility for the BIG NEWS spoken of in recent weeks? I doubt it, but ... alanm ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 31 Jan 93 17:47:08 -0500 From: barry@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Barry Wong) Subject: Shawn Colvin Hi all I just thought that some of you might be interedsted in knowing that Shawn Colvin is suppose to be on the Tonight Show this monday night, so that you can all set your vcrs :) Oh doug, thanks for the info, let kme know when the tape is available. Barry ======================================================================== From: alan moorse Date: Sun, 31 Jan 93 19:16:01 -0500 Subject: John Prine... The Roches I'm caught up as far as last Thursday, and in a few messages there were mentions of John Prine and the Roches. A few comments on each, and a suggestion for Prine fans: John Prine's influence on American folk music was set with his first album, which contained songs such as "Sam Stone" (about a morphine-addicted veteran of Vietnam) and "Hello in There" (about growing old and being alone) and brought the gravel-voiced Southern folk sound to baby-boomers all over the country. The album is great -- I think it's just called "John Prine," and it has an introductory message on the back from Kris Kristoferson (sp?). Anyone who likes Prine might want to watch for "Coming Up for Air" by David Massengill. He's got the voice, and a good part of the message and attitude, and the quirky sense of humor. And if you like mountain dulcimer, well, he plays it like nobody else I've ever heard. The album is on Flying Fish (FF70590). It includes "My Name Joe" "On the Road to Fairfax County" (which the Roches recorded on "Keep on Doing") "Number One in America" and "It's a Beautiful World." "Photographs show the laughs recorded in between the bad times; happy sailors dancing on a sinking ship. Cloudy skies and dead fruit flies wavin' goodbye with tears in my eyes. Well, sure I made it, but you know it was a hell of a trip." Prine -- Flashback Blues "The Marquis de Sade brought his thumbscrew. Ivan the Terrible's out with the flu. But Robespierre was there with his guillotine finks. Lucrezia Borgia was mizing the drinks. And rattling his hains was old Blackbeard's ghost. Vlad the Impaler was carving the roast." Massengill -- It's a Beautiful World alanm ======================================================================== From: alan moorse Date: Sun, 31 Jan 93 20:21:38 -0500 Subject: A quick travel poll Let's see a show of hands, please. If Happy were to announce a tour, starting in Albany (I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF SUCH A TOUR, BUT JUST THOUGHT OF THIS, SO DON'T GET ALL EXCITED), how many Ectophiles might travel to New York's capital to see her? I ask because should it happen, and happen on a date not already reserved for one of two serious family visits we have planned, my wife and I might be able to accommodate a few 'philes. If there's interest, I'll figure out how many we can put up... and even clean the second floor... and maybe fix the plumbing to the third-floor bathroom. ======================================================================== ======================================================================== From: meth@aol.com Subject: Soul-Baring Admissions, Inc. Date: Sun, 31 Jan 93 22:50:34 EST Hi! First, to second Jeffy's glowing review of the Suzanne Vega/Kitchens of Distinction show. She was in Hartford last night, and woj and I were there. KoD were indeed very loud, but that's a factor of the sound system being set for Suzanne, which wasn't very conducive to their layered sound. This was the third time I'd seen Suzanne- the first was in 1987 in Portland, Maine, and the second in Munich- and overall I think it was her best performance. She's developed a stage presence now, although it's clear she really hasn't gotten over the stage nervousness yet (I wonder if she has a name for her pet bullhorn? ;). Some of the same stories, though, which was rather disappointing. Also disappointing was the omission of "Gypsy" from the set list, which I was expecting to follow "In Liverpool", since they're both about the same guy. (She was 17... gawd, will she *ever* get over him??? ;) The gist: if she's coming to your area, don't miss it. Another thing- her stage presence did also remind me of Happy- her speaking voice is quite similar in tone and inflection, and she's got the same kind of humor. She must really have been amused by the radio appearance Jeffy mentioned, since she went off on it for most of the show. (She jokingly opened the floor up for questions during one break between songs, which was reminiscent of Happy's Philly show... to keep the memory going, I shouted "What's your shoe size?", but she either didn't hear me or ignored it. ;) In other news... Tomorrow I send a check to Albany, though it has the distinct potential for bouncing. :} I would like to have it by next Sunday, so I can do a pre-release feature on it on my show... I hope that can happen, but I'm not counting on it. Guilty pleasures? I WORSHIPPED Culture Club in junior high, and every once in a while I'll put on _Kissing To Be Clever_ and wish Boy George had never gotten around to taking voice lessons. I was an avid Durani at that time, too... basically, all early-80's music gets me going on some level or another. :> Mercifully, I hadn't yet acheived Musical Awareness until the 70's were blissfully over, and when I did the first album I got with my own money was Blondie's _Parallel Lines_ (which I still listen to from time to time). My favorite song when I was 4 was Gary Wright's "Dream Weaver". As far as Guilty Secrets goes, I think I take the prize. (I can't BELIEVE I'm publicly admitting this, but...) For six months I did have in my possession a Menudo album. It accidentally (not) got thrown out, along with _Like A Virgin_, _She's So Unusual_, and _Thriller_ when we moved to Florida. In retrospect I probably shouldn't have tossed the Cyndi Lauper, but I was loathe to provide the answer to a Scavenger Hunt question at a frosh orientation party at Wesleyan: "Find someone who owned a Menudo album." I helped that team win, since no one else would admit to it, but it was still a majorly embarrassing admission. Fortunately, by 10th grade I had discovered the likes of Bronski Beat, Adam and the Ants, INXS, Psychadelic Furs and Talking Heads, and the Konversion to KaTe was not long thereafter. But getting there was at best a rocky road... Meredith meth@aol.com (Mike, "meth" is NOT short for methadone. When I was 3 I decided it would be cool to take the first two and last two letters of my name and make a nickname out of it, and it stuck. Family members call me that, and for years only my best friends were allowed, then I got to college and it eventually leaked out, and I was faced with picking a name on AOL and chose that, since I was sure no one else would have it. And I was right. :) ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 1 Feb 93 0:44:56 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Happy rumor from a record store Tonight was our movie night so I just now logged on to see what's happening. (We have a big screen and once a month we host a group spun off from the old Twin Peaks fan club. Each person in the group has their chance to choose the film watched. Tonight somebody picked _The Cook, the Thief, his Wife and Her Lover_. Purty movie.) > I stopped in Troy's only decent used-disc store yesterday and overheard > an interesting Happy rumor. I'm just now reading mail from Jan. 26, so > this may be old rumor for y'all, but here 'tis: > > Rumor has it that Happy is providing vocals for a project by (and please > forgive the spelling here) Andreas Vollenwinder. Dunno about that, but it sounds interesting. I don't know anything about the guy other than the fact that, right or wrong, he's lumped in with "New Age" stuff. May be good, may be bad. If it's true, and it makes her some bucks and some contacts, who cares? It would be more likely to see Kevin working with someone like that, so it also would be nice to get Kevin some contacts. > Another possibility for the BIG NEWS spoken of in recent weeks? I doubt it, > but ... Could be... Thanks for the info Alan! (btw, I got your tape.) Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 1 Feb 93 1:01:56 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: A quick travel poll AlanM writes: > Let's see a show of hands, please. If Happy were to announce a tour, starting > in Albany (I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF SUCH A TOUR, BUT JUST THOUGHT OF THIS, SO > DON'T GET ALL EXCITED), how many Ectophiles might travel to New York's capital > to see her? I ask because should it happen, and happen on a date not already > reserved for one of two serious family visits we have planned, my wife and I > might be able to accommodate a few 'philes. If there's interest, I'll figure > out how many we can put up... and even clean the second floor... and maybe > fix the plumbing to the third-floor bathroom. Too bad we didn't know you last March! I'd go if I thought I could get off work, but that might be tough. It's a possibility. Thanks for the offer! Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 31 Jan 93 22:05:27 PST From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Subject: Re: Happy rumor from a record store WretchAwry writes: > Tonight was our movie night so I just now logged on to see what's happening. > (We have a big screen and once a month we host a group spun off from the > old Twin Peaks fan club. Each person in the group has their chance to > choose the film watched. Tonight somebody picked _The Cook, the Thief, > his Wife and Her Lover_. Purty movie.) That is definitely the most interesting two-word review I could think of for _The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover_. I remember being warned by friends to not eat anything for at least six hours before seeing it. As it turned out, I was really hungry on the evening before I wanted to go see it and ate right before I left. Fortunately, I have an extremely high squeamishness threshhold and so I survived the truck-full-of-rotting-meat scene with no problems. I still liked the movie, though, but I've enjoyed other Peter Greenaway films even more. If you liked _TC,TT,HW,aHL_, you might like _Prospero's Books_ even more. I went to see it thinking that it might be kind of boring; I ended up being captivated by it, although it is definitely up there in the stratosphere in artiness. ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)