Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #886 ecto, Number 886 Wednesday, 1 December 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* I'm told this is for real. Hmmm... :) good shopping day Today's your birthday friends.... Repo Records Justin's birthday! Yippee! Hey Bdays! Mail lost Sarah live and in your head Ouch! found a scarf New Happy listener CD rot 1993 Happy Gift Project -- Take four Cool (warm) weekend Tribe in SF? ======================================================================== From: neilg@sfu.ca Subject: I'm told this is for real. Hmmm... :) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 93 1:09:24 PST > To: announce@radio.com > From: "The Elves" > Org: The North Pole > Subject: The Great Santa Search > Date: Fri, 26 Nov 93 04:00:00 -0400 > > Greetings! > > We're Santa's Elves and we need your help to get ready for > a wired Christmas. On December 12, children on the Internet > will be able to send their messages to santa@north.pole.org > and he'll send back an authentic Christmas greeting. The > mail address for Santa Claus will stay valid until December > 31. > > Help us bring badly needed bytes into the lives of children > all over the world! We're asking people on the Internet to > send us in authentic Christmas greetings, words of cheer that > are appropriate for the holiday season. We'll use the messages > received to compile the Santomatic Perl Script, forming a > database of Christmas Cheer to use in composing the responses > back to the net. > > Help us lend a personal touch to these messages! Together, > we can form the Great Santa Brigade, combining that personal > touch with an on-line Christmas. Unlike the Postal Service, > we'll write back! > > We're particularly interested in messages from around the world, > traditional words of greeting, and any other messages > appropriate to the occasion. Try and keep your messages > under 20 lines and feel free to send in multiple suggestions. > > Regards, > > The Elves > elves@north.pole.org > > Support for an on-line Santa is furnished by the Internet > Multicasting Service. ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 10:13:43 GMT From: imy@wcl-rs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Young) Subject: I'm told this is for real. Hmmm... :) Surely that should be north-pole.org, not north.pole.org? I. ======================================================================== Subject: good shopping day Date: Sat, 27 Nov 93 10:20:19 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu I hit a used disc shop yesterday and came away pretty well pleased for my $14: 1) Cranberries, "Linger" promo CD-single. $2 Great stuff...this has two non-album tracks, "Reason" and "Them", both of which are wonderful. I don't know if this CD had a "public" release, but if you're a Cranberries fan, the two extra tracks are probably worth the price of a domestic single. 2) Ingrid Chavez, _May 19 1992_. $4 I've only listened to this once and I'm not sure how I feel about it. Very dancey, with lots of spoken vocals. I thought I'd heard the name on Ecto. Is this true? 3) Melissa Ferrick, _Massive Blur_. $8 Ooh! Ooh! Good stuff! Now this is going to seem like an odd question. Yesterday morning, somebody, I believe in the UK, posted a message about a possibly ectofodder singer. I read the article and then deleted it. Later, at the shop, I saw the Melissa Ferrick CD and thought the name seemed familiar, so on a lark I picked it up. It was somewhat gutsy--the person who posted the article yesterday hadn't actually heard her, and I wasn't even certain it was the same person who had been posted about! Anyway, I listened to it a couple of times yesterday. Ferrick is reminiscent of all sorts of people, including Melissa Etheridge (but not *nearly* so bluesy), Shawn Colvin (but far more electric), Ferron (but with a better voice), and goodness-knows-who-else (those were the three that Beth and I hit on first). Not ethereal, not "pretty", but definitely something I would consider ectofodder. And the album contains a little ditty called "Happy Song". ;-) All in all, a very good take. (I also picked up KaTe's new single, "Moments of Pleasure" because I can't let a non-album track go by. "Show A Little Devotion" is pretty good, though I understand why it's not on the album. ;-) I'm a little disappointed about the way they're jerking us around with the b-sides (doesn't the 12" of the single have "Home for Christmas" on it?) but on the other hand, you can never have too many CD copies of "December Will Be Magic Again." And while I'm on the subject, I was listening to "Experiment IV", also on the single, and decided that KaTe's *really* not using Nigel Kennedy nearly as well as she used to. His part on "Experiment IV" is simply sublime. So what happened? Is it his fault or hers?) Anyway. Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "When I look in the mirror, I see a little clearer/ | |SAFH Lite [tm] | I am what I am and you are you too./ Do you like | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | what you see? Do you like yourself?" --N. Cherry | ======================================================================== From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 07:07:33 Subject: Today's your birthday friends.... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *************** ***HAPPY******* ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ******************* ***** Justin Bur ****** **** Sue Trowbridge *** *********************** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Justin Bur Fri November 27 1964 Sagittarius Sue Trowbridge Sun November 27 1966 Skytten Chip Lueck Thu December 5 1968 Sagittarius Ken Hoyme Sun December 8 1957 Sagittarius Shelby Sun December 13 1970 Roscoe the Frog Laura Clifford Tue December 17 1957 Sagittarius Dirk Kastens Tue December 17 1963 Sagittarius Uli Grepel Wed December 25 1968 Steinbock -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.wupper.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 27 Nov 93 12:26:56 PST From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Subject: I'm told this is for real. Hmmm... :) Ian Young writes: > Surely that should be north-pole.org, not north.pole.org? > > I. No, because there's pole.org, with nodes north.pole.org and south.pole.org. The elves just contract with pole.org, as do the Antarctic research station scientists. ======================================================================== From: p.cohen@genie.geis.com Date: Sat, 27 Nov 93 23:27:00 BST Subject: Repo Records brni: Glad you discovered Repo Records. It's my main source of music. All people in the Philly area should check this place out. It's in Bryn Mawr a block east of Borders Books. As brni said, it's overstocked with used alternate CDs. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Paul Cohen +---+ P.COHEN@genie.geis.com +---+ +---+ 5500 Wissahickon Ave +---+ 70703.3126@compuserve.com +---+ +---+ Apt 512B +---+ PMCOHEN@aol.com +---+ +---+ Philadelphia, PA 19144 +---+ PMCOHEN@delphi.com +---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 20:46:11 -0500 (EST) From: HOLLY@umbc2.umbc.edu Subject: Justin's birthday! Yay! It's Justin's birthday. Happy birthday, Justin. Holly ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 20:48:51 -0500 (EST) From: HOLLY@umbc2.umbc.edu Subject: Yippee! Happy Birthday to Sue, Happy Birthday dear Sue, Happy Birthdaye to Sue! (sung to the tune of "Happy Birthday.") *hug* Holly ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 27 Nov 93 22:26:44 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Hey Bdays! HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Justin Bur!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Sue Trowbridge!! **HUG** to you both... Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 23:59:00 +0100 From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Subject: Mail lost Hi, now it has happened to me - I deleted a bunch of mail :-(. And there's no way to get it back. 120 kbytes of gzipped mail - YOURS was surely in there! ARGH! Anything sent Friday or later might not have made it - if you think it was important (;-)) and if you can - please resend it. I'll get the list archives elsewhere. Thanks, Uli ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 23:26:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Sarah live and in your head Hi! While stuck in traffic on the Garden State Parkway this evening (it took me an hour and a half to go 20 miles- this is, after all, the heaviest travel day of the year in the USA :P), I happened to be in WDRE's listening area ("Modern Rock- Dare To Be Different", as they play endless sets of U2, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and REM). It seems they're putting together two "holiday acoustic" concerts in the next couple weeks, one in New York City and the other in Philadelphia. Scheduled to play are, among others, Live, Teenage Fanclub, Cowboy Junkies, Tony Bennett (yes, the one your mother probably worships- mine doesn't, but she's weird :), and SARAH MCLACHLAN (but onle for the *Philadelphia* show). I know the NYC show is on December 17th, because there were no fewer than 4 commercials for it while I was listening to the station, but the only mention of the Philly show was made by the DJ, and he didn't say when that's going to be happening! I could care less about the other folks playing with the except- ion of Cowboy Junkies, in New York, but I simply must find out what the deal is with the Philly show, when Sarah will be on the bill. Any Phillyphiles out there have any clue, or at least the local Ticketslime number so Ic an call myself? I'm hoping it's on the 18th, since that's a Saturday, but with my luck it'll be on Thursday the 17th. :P Your help is greatly appreciated. :> Right now I'm listening to _Fumbling Towards Ecstasy_ on my Walkman- finally got a dub to come out reasonably well. woj made a dub for himself so he can listen to it while his CD player is toasted, and loaned me his copy of the CD. His copy sounded rather bad, and I re-recorded it for him on my new stereo, and that copy came out sounding even worse- I have no way to set the input levels, and the whole thing came out saturated. I tried again this evening on my CD boom-box, and that seems to have come out a bit better, though there is still some saturation in spots. At least I know it's not my new stereo, but is this just bad engineering, or some diabolical plot to prevent people from making reasonable dubs of the album? Anyway, the point I'm failing to make here is that _FtE_ is even more of a religious experience when piped directly into your brain. There are things going on underneath in some places (most notably in the second version of "Possession" on the CD single, which I tacked as filler on the second side), and there's nothing better than the album version of "Fear" on high volume during the crescendo behind the first chorus, which is a religious experience on par with the cathartic moment of Tori's _Precious Things_, albeit in a different way. I haven't listened to an album this much since I got _Little Earthquakes_. mjm was right- it blows the bleeping bananas off _TRS_. It's doing more for me than _When I Was A Boy_, and all the other albums in my top 10 of 1993 massively pale in comparison to it. I already know every word of every song by heart to sing along- I guess that's what happes when you fall asleep to an album every night for a week and a half. :) If I could, I'd set up a mailing list for Sarah talk, but alas, I don't have the knowledge (or, at this point, the technology). I will mention the Sarah topic on GEnie, for those here who indulge- I haven't been on GEnie for about two months now, but I'm sure there's some discussion going on over there in the Music RT. I should be able to check into that this week sometime, if all goes as planned and I get a working computer again. Is there anyone here with the ability/desire to set up a Sarah list? Fondly fumbling towards the ecstasy, Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== From: Tim Cook Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 09:05:55 GMT Subject: Ouch! I finally got nabbed by customs! 6 pounds duty on 3 CDs. UK customs seem more likely to ignore small packets than larger ones. In future I'm going to order my CDs in 1's and 2's. tim ======================================================================== From: "Klaus Kluge" Date: 29 Nov 93 11:59:27 MET-1 Subject: found a scarf To all the guests of the 2nd EurEcto Party: Is one of you missing a scarf? We found one. _____ Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge private: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto work: Klaus.Kluge@Materna.DE ======================================================================== Date: 29 Nov 1993 09:28:19 -0400 (EDT) From: SB6112@ark.ship.edu Subject: New Happy listener Hi, Ectophiles! Well, after reading the digest for the past few weeks and hearing so much about Happy Rhodes, I just had to see what all the fuss was about. I was in this record store in a mall in Johnstown, PA, on the day before Thanksgiving, and I couldn't believe my eyes when I actually saw RhodeSongs in the pop/rock tapes. I snapped it up. I am really enjoying it. I especially got a kick out of when she started singing a line from Kate Bush's "Running Up That Hill". Thank you everyone for expanding my musical horizons! Bye for now, Sue B. ======================================================================== From: Tim Cook Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 14:58:06 GMT Subject: CD rot I was reading an article in Time-Out at the weekend. Apparently some CDs (mostly CD singles I think) from a particular pressing plant in the UK have started to rot. The problem only seemed to affect CDs manufactured in 1988. It seems that the cardboard they used was of inferior quality and contained a lot of sulphur which attacked the laquer which then caused the CD to oxidise. The CDs changed colour from silver to a gold colour at which point they refused to play. The article didn't say how widespread the problem was. Has anybody out there experienced any problems with their CDs? I've only ever had a couple of faulty CDs that were faulty when I bought them (a couple of scratched ones and one with a fault in the plastic itself). I had a quick look at some of my early CDs (circa 1985/86) and they all looked fine and played fine. I've got one CD (The Smiths - Strangeways here we come) that is distinctly a goldish rather than silver colour but it was like that when I bought it (about 4-5 years ago) and it plays perfectly. One comment from the managing of the pressing plant. He said we shouldn't expect CDs to last forever "We don't expect cars to last forever so why should we expect the same of CDs". Now call me old-fashioned but don't cars have a few more moving parts than a CD? And haven't the record companies being touting CDs as lasting a lifetime so that they can charge us oodles more money than they do for vinyl! tim PS I hate Jeff! My copy of Melissa Ferricks "Massive Blur" cost me quite a bit more than $8. Worth it IMHO. On first listen I prefer the acoustic numbers more than the others. I second the opinion that it's definitely in the ectopossibility pile! ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 11:38:42 +0700 From: dbx@ventana.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: 1993 Happy Gift Project -- Take four Greetings Ecto-gentlefolk, The time for sending in your 1993 Happy Gift Project contribution is shrinking rapidly, leaving only TWO WEEKS before the deadline. With the slow postal services this time of year, you really need to ACT NOW!!! Currently the full list of contributions that I've received is: Doug Burks Michael Peskura Jens Brage Let's make this list a wee bit longer. Okay? :) I have tacked the original announcement onto this note, just in case you have no idea what I am talking about here. Doug Burks _O_ @>->--- dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! >>> Original announcement This is the initial announcement for the 1993 Happy Gift Project. December is a traditional time for gift giving, so The Management (Mitch Pravatiner and myself) invite everyone to contribute towards a collective gift from Ectophiles to Happy Rhodes. As per tradition (Ecto is old enough to have traditions!? :) ), you are invited to contribute a selection of music that you would like Happy to hear, along with any personal greetings, song introductions, whatever. The _only_ restriction is that your total contribution not exceed ten minutes in length. (Well, I don't know if we'd accept a John Cage homage called 9'47" :) ). Even then, feel free to add extra musical selections which can fill any leftover or odd spaces on the final tapes. If you do so, please make clear which selections are part of your official contribution and the priority you place on the additional bits. (We know. They are all great, but this still would be much appreciated. :) ) Original music is not only welcomed but encouraged! All of this will be copied onto a master tape, tied together with seasonally appropriate selections by The Management (Suggestions welcomed!) and the dulcet tones of Master of Ceremony Mitch Pravatiner. A copy will be mailed to one Happy Rhodes. The recent Happy Birthday Project also included a small gift, a kite handmade by Jeff Burka, a perfect addition to the tapes, in my opinion. It would be great to add a similar gift to this package. We hereby declare this electronic floor open for suggestions. I am also issuing a call for a volunteer to gift-wrap and mail the final package to Happy. Anyone should be able to better any ham-fisted attempt of mine. I would re-imburse any expenses of the wrapping and mailing. We hope that gives the spirit of this project, so on to the administrative details. Record your spoken greetings/introductions and musical selections on a cassette tape (heavily suggested: C-100 chrome bias, recorded in Dolby B) and mail it to me: Doug Burks 2036 W Plum St C7 Fort Collins CO 80521 USA In return, when the project is finished, I will mail all contributors a copy of the final 1993 Happy Gift Project tapes. Unfortunately, the number and length of the cassettes required to hold the final project will depend on the contributions. As a guideline, preceding projects have ended up on either two C-100 tapes or three C-90 tapes. If the project runs onto two tapes, I will supply the second tape (your choice of type) free to any contributors. If it runs onto a third (or fourth? :) ) tape, the responsibility for the additional tapes is yours, so please choose which tape dubbing project option you want to use. All return packaging and postage will be covered by me for all contributors. Copies of the 1993 Happy Gift Project will be available for non-contributors via the tape dubbing project. Watch this space in late December for an announcement. If you would like to include personal greetings or music introductions but have no way to record them, feel free to e-mail your greetings/introductions to Mitch Pravatiner (u15289@uicvm.cc.uic.edu), and he will record your greetings on a tape and mail it to me for blending with your musical selections. The deadline for all of this will be 10 Dec. Due to the over-burdened postal services in late November and December, please act soon! If you have any questions, comments, raspberries, feel free to post them or e-mail them to me or Mitch. I strongly encourage everyone to contribute. Don't worry about the quality of your selections. Just look at mine over the years and realize how easily you can best them! :) Let's make this the biggest and best project ever! Doug Burks _O_ @>->--- dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 10:54:46 PST From: Neal R. Copperman Subject: Cool (warm) weekend Hey all, I had such a stupendous weekend, but I won't bore you with sunshine, feeble surfing attempts, Spanish Presidios, lunar eclipses, Bebe Neuwirht, and woman on the beach. I will bore you with my encounter with Zosh, an Evrugian artist. They ran an article on him in the paper, which focussed on a very small part of his work. They talked about how this artist (really from Barcelona) has created his own country, actually a state of mind, with it's own language and currency that he creates. Then they mentioned a bit about his drawings and stuff and showed a weird picture of him poking a finger in his eye with an eyeball coming out of his mouth. Apparetnly the eyeball in the middle of the brain is the symbol of Evrogia, something about seeing clearly straight from the brain. When I got to the gallery, it was clear to me that I was familiar with Zosh's work, although I hadn't realized it. In fact, I even have a t-shirt! I'd be willing to guess that a large portion of you own something by Zosh, and an even larger number have seen his work. He did the DIgging in the Dirt picture in US and worked on the video as well. The tip-off for me was all the tendrills and neurons that are all over his work, as well as those incredibly happy looking smiles on the almost disembodied faces. He wasn't exactly sociable, but walked 15 minutes from his hotel to the gallery to talk with me, just because the gallery owner said someone had come into the place. He showed me how he put together some images on his computer, and we talked a bit about his language and work. He gets faxes from his wife and friends using his language. Aside from not mentioning his Peter Gabriel connection, the article said nothing about the virtual reality park that Zosh, Peter, and Laurie Anderson are working on. A fax came into the gallery over the weekend from Peter telling them that the land in Barcelona for the park had been approved. It was a really cool exhibit, and a very interesting time. I'm going to skip lunch and go down there again on Tuesday, so if anyone has any questions for Zosh, I'll ask them if he's there. (sounds like a nice tv show "Ask ZOsh") Neal ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 17:55:27 PST From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) Subject: Tribe in SF? Hi, Well, I haven't received a digest in 4 days, and just wanted to let bay area ectophiles know that maybe Tribe will be at the DNA Lounge in SF on Thursday. It's listed as Band1, Tribe, Band2 , so I am not sure if it's the Boston band or a band with Tribe in its name (there are lots of those around). Angelos ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 18:09:04 PST From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: Re: Tribe in SF? > Angelos sez: > Hi, > > Well, I haven't received a digest in 4 days, and just wanted to let bay > area ectophiles know that maybe Tribe will be at the DNA Lounge in SF > on Thursday. It's listed as Band1, Tribe, Band2 , so I am not sure if > it's the Boston band or a band with Tribe in its name (there are lots Yep, it's Boston's own Tribe alright. Em & I are going, if anyone else in the Bay area's interested. D^2 ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)