Date: Thu, 5 Dec 91 23:07:59 EST From: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu ecto, Number 74 Thursday, 5 December 1991 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Stuff The strange case of offsetting misattributions re: Quickstuff A poem HGP slow ecto! A polemic against cheesiness in record retailing some stuff ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 10:00:58 MST From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Stuff Greetings, I wrote: Mitch asked: Nice song, "HSTBAI", but why would you want to dedicate that to Happy, Doug? Mitch chided me: The truth is, I didn't ask that. I don't know who did. I've never even heard that song--much less heard _of_ it--but it actually sounds like an excellent choice, judging solely from the title and Doug's subsequent comments. On the basis of what he says, it would appear that my own sense of humor is also in a league with Happy's--as would eventually have been revealed anyway by the selection I am leaning toward for the HGP tape. Martin did, and I have no excuse for botching it once more. [I'm going to get this right someday, and why do I always do it to poor Martin!?] As for Mitch's choice, hmmm [hurriedly scans Klaus' latest list], Flanders & Swann. I don't know the song, but I do know the duo. This should be interesting! Mark wrote: To me, it seems like most of the people who really like Happy's music are very emotional, empathic people. I think that what makes us like her isn't necessarily that we can identify with the pain that she's felt, but that we can feel the honesty and compassion in her music. Bingo! That was one point I was trying to make, done in less than my 1000 words. This is the common denominator, bottom line answer of the question, applying to virtually all Ectophiles and all Happy albums. However, that is not the full story. The core of this discussion is that people who have experienced personal pain feel a very close identification, empathy, and understanding with Happy's lyrics, especially more with Happy's first four albums than _Warpaint_. The uncertainty is to what extent this is true. ... and then there were none. Terry Anderson was released today after seven years in captivity. Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! Ghost of a Dog -- Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians **** Sentimental Hygiene -- Warren Zevon **** ======================================================================== Date: 4 December 1991 15:17:55 CST From: Subject: The strange case of offsetting misattributions Doug's posting today about the misattribution to me of Martin's query on the "HSTBAI" song was useful for setting the record straight. By way of attemp ting to cheer him up regarding his making this error of fact, may I remind you all that a couple of weeks ago, Meredith (I think it was) erroneously attribute d one of my new product ideas to Martin. It all comes out in the wash, I guess :-). If nothing else, this should contribute to the flow of fuzzy [blue?] :-) thinking on this, the slowest ecto posting day in recent memory. Is the server in New Brunswick down, or what? I can just visualize how a tabloid headline writer would try to link the day's otherwise unrelated happenings, in about 90-point type, all caps, bannered on page 1: ANDERSON SPRUNG--ECTO HUNG? :-) --Mitch __________________________ "All in all, a break-even day." :-) --Joyce Davenport, at the end of a first-season episode of _Hill Street Blues_ (as related in _Inside Prime Time_, by Todd Gitlin) ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 5 Dec 91 09:25:16 MST From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Stuff Greetings, I was going through my too many disk files yesterday, looking for stuff that should be archived/deleted. I stumbled across the FBM package. This is an image manipulation graphics package, which has its own image file format. So what, you ask? Well, FBM stands for Fuzzy BitMap, which is also the name of their file format. Thus if I created an image of solid blue and stored it in this type of file, wouldn't that be a fuzzy blue bitmap? Unfortunately, once displayed or put in a GIF file (or whatever) it loses its fuzziness. Still, shouldn't we archive our Happy images as fuzzy bitmaps? :-) Hmmm, two days now and all I've see on Ecto is a post from me and one from Mitch. Is anyone out there? Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! Blaze of Glory -- Joe Jackson **** ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 5 Dec 91 12:09:47 EST From: Laura Clifford Subject: re: Quickstuff Vicki sez: >Wow, I just got finished recording my Kansas City show. It seems to take me >so long to put together, but the end result is so simple. This show was >pretty much dedicated to Klaus Kinski and Michael Carroll. I played Enya >and West India Company and "Don't Give Up" and Jane's "Seven Steps To The >Wall" and "The Ballad Of Lucy Jordan" and various other things. Oh, I played >"Crystal Orbs" too. Vicki - I hope you played 'Hello Earth' with the piece of music from Nosferatu....how perfect Laura ======================================================================== From: Jeanne B Schreiter Subject: A poem Date: Thu, 5 Dec 91 11:36:41 CST I was working on this poem this morning, after reading a few chapters of "A Wrinkle in Time," which at this point, I am certain I have read already. Titles: As I look at the Man inside the Mountain I talk to the Mountain Standing tall, dark capped mountain, few ferns and flowers planted at your feet. Lonely is your name. Quietly do you speak. Ranier's crested white peaks, whisper to you in solitude & silence. (To go home..that is what I think) His words come out stiffly, hesitant to watch. So I speak. Dear Man of the Mountain, If I were to climb your side only once, would you shake and tremble? Or would you shower me with cleaner aire that I may see your pathways, to climb farther? A hazy mist of musky fog, one that chills lifts to clearer lights, richer earth autumns. Dare to dream dear mountain, let your soul not only move in the music you hear, but shed the granite rocks that hold you still and feel what is there in the darkness. -JB Schreiter draft 1 -- ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 20:53:06 EST From: Nimue - Gwragedd Annwn Subject: HGP ok here is my final choice for the HGP after further deliberation: i will contribute a 1.00min or so little talk - kIrI voice then i will play Love and Money by the group Nine Ways to Sunday the song is approx. 4.30 min. so total is 5min 30 sec. kIrI ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jesus was way cool, everybody liked Jesus, everybody wanted to hang out with him. Anything he wanted to do he did, he turned water into wine and if he wanted to he could have turned wheat into marijuana, or sugar into cocaine, or vitamin pills into amphetamines. He walked on the water and swam on the land. --- King Missle "Jesus was way cool" HARGIEKA@CLUTX.CLARKSON.EDU______________________________________________ ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 5 Dec 91 15:25:37 EST From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: slow ecto! I don't believe anything is wrong with ecto at all, I tihnk it's just being very slow these past two days! It's nearing finals time for students - that may be keeping some of us pretty busy! And i guess the rest of us are just busy! For the HGP: Greg and I have selected a song, we're doing "Moving" (KaTe :). Happy has already mentioned that she liked the way i sang it on my other tape, and we have some neat ideas for the music. jessica ======================================================================== Date: 5 December 1991 15:20:32 CST From: Subject: A polemic against cheesiness in record retailing Today, I went to the Tower Records store in Chicago to pick up a copy of t he _Pulse_ issue featuring Angelos' DID list, a couple of albums on casette that I'd had my eye on, and some blank tape (which I use a lot of, and which Tower often offers good deals on). On arriving, I noticed on the front door that they were offering $1 off on any non-sale recording selling for at least $5, if one brought in a package of non-perishable food to be passed on to a local charity. With this in mind, I made a side trip to the Walgreen's down the street to see if I could cash in on this and realize a net saving. As it happened, they were selling Ramen noodles for 29 cents a package. I bought two packages, in the hope that I could save a dollar apiece on two albums, and headed back to Tower. They had neither of the albums I was looking for, but the did have a few others that caught my eye. They also had some unusually good deals on blank cassettes, so I loaded up. Here's where it gets interesting :-(' --they had a very large number of checkout counters, all but one of which were clearly unmanned. The only one that was manned was combined with the information desk, but had a sign directing the beleagured customer to the CD section on the other side of the rather large store. I managed to extend a finger from the folded arms in which I was cradling all my swag, and opened the door to the CD department, which was completely empty. I then managed to keep a grip on myself (and everything else) long enough to hobble back across the store, where --after the man behind the counter finished a lengthy interaction with another customer--I finally got to pay for all the stuff. He had to ask how to factor the dollar off for noodles into the ringup process. It turned out, to my surprise, that all the packages of noodles together would get me a dollar off on only one tape. It was suggested I hang on to one package and use it on a future purchase. Having all that stuff to carry around, I decided against it, picked up a couple of copies of _Pulse_ (which were free to begin with), and left doing a slow burn. Who else has experience with Tower stores? I'd like to compare notes on the quality (or lack thereof) of customer service (or lack thereof). Mitch Pravatiner ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 5 Dec 91 22:19 GMT From: "Don't Torture Yourself Dahling..That's MY Job!" Jessica: a friend of mine..Liam ..said that he contacted you to put him on the mailing list...he was wondering if you ahd received his messages or were just too busy t respond at this minute!!! in case you are too busy..let me know so i can tell him..ok?? =) Kiri: add the MEW MEW "song" to the tape as my message at least..ok?? i think Happy and her darling kits will understand what i am trying to say to ehr!! MEW! in love and Happyness... Court. (seeing my good moods disappear with the waxing moon) ======================================================================== From: kkluge@xenox.ruhr.de (Klaus Kluge) Subject: some stuff Date: Thu, 5 Dec 91 1:01:43 MEZ Poor Martin! Lost his account, and is desperatly trying to communicate. Got lots of messages from him, asking to reply under a different name, but they all bounce back. If we can't get him back soon I'll try to find his phone number and give him a call. Woj, about 2 versions of WH: > plus, i think i recall vickie saying that "wuthering heights" was a fave > of happy's, so i'm inclined right there to include both... That's an excellent reason to have them both included! An instrumental and an acapella version. Very useful! If we are running out of time on the tape we can mix them to get one version. ;-) Meredith asks: > Klaus, has KaTe's "RM/CITW" been released in Deutschland? If so, I may have > a proposition for you. ;) Haven't seen it so far, but I am looking for it! ___ (me and my ferocious cat we're walking down the street > Klaus Kluge < and everyone we meet says "ach yer a goot kitty!...") > kkluge@Materna.DE < - Everything Reminds Me Of My Cat - really??? > countdown: 9 days < ======================================================================== To join ecto, please send electronic mail to the following address: ecto-request@athos.rutgers.edu To have your thoughts included in the next issue, send mail to: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu To subscribe to "Ecto", the printed fanzine, send $8 to: Ecto PO Box 11291 New Brunswick, NJ 08906 Ecto is issued 8 times/year, and will include photos and as much material from non-net members as we can get! Donations above the subscription cost are welcomed - all money goes to bringing you better issues! Your "humble pseudo-moderator" -- jessica (jessica@athos.rutgers.edu)