Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1199 ecto, Number 1199 Monday, 8 August 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Tish Hinojosa Re: Milla tour dates Re: Jan Johnston, Paula Cole, Lida Husik et al... Hello fro Oz, and New Album !?! Help for a discographie Today's your birthday friend.... poignant quote from f_m an old, but not necessarily stale, topic, as i try vainly to catch up... Coming Home! Re: Coming Home! potential ecto/etc-gathering, rsvp requested Re: ecto #1198 Geolyn Employment Today's your birthday friend.... where is ecto? Re: milla Late night musical guests The tribulations of homemade birthday gifts, and other stories ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 14:26:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Marisa Wood Subject: Tish Hinojosa I like Tish too! I've got her last two albums: _Culture Swing_ (IMHO the better one of the two I have) and _Destiny's Gate_. Which one did you get? I saw her live here in Seattle last May 1. Good show! I said "hi" to her after the show (en espanol, since I'm fluent in Spanish :) ) and got my copy of _Culture Swing_ autographed. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Marisa Wood "Under the armour of that iron woman/ So many things lie within" mlwood@u.washington.edu --Julia Fordham, "Island" ------------------------------------------------------------------ ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 14:58:34 -0700 From: hinshaw@cs.washington.edu (Kevin Hinshaw) Subject: Re: Milla tour dates Well, I managed to see Milla in Seattle last night -- what a fantastic show! I didn't think her voice was as strong as what we hear on _The Divine Comedy_ but I still enjoyed myself immensely. And we did get to hear "The Blue Goat" -- nice tune. Anyone near Minneapolis may want to check around to see if Milla will be there in the next few days. It's not on the list of dates that Michael sent out, but the guitar player in Milla's band said he thought they were heading there next. He also mentioned that they would *not* be playing in Vancouver because they had a problem with their travel VISAs. Sorry about that to those of you north of the border. :( He also said that they may start touring with Crash Test Dummies -- hope he's right on that one! I haven't seen them yet, and I'd be more than happy to hear Milla and the band again. -Kevin ======================================================================== From: jzitt@ssnet.com (Joseph Zitt) Subject: Re: Jan Johnston, Paula Cole, Lida Husik et al... Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 21:25:14 -0400 (EDT) Tim cooks up: > As if that wasn't emough! I picked up a CD by someone called Tish Hinojosa. Yup! Tish is from Austin, TX (to which I am returning!!!!! more news later). She's quite popular there, though I've never actually heard her myself. ======================================================================== From: Christopher Boek Subject: Hello fro Oz, and New Album !?! Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 12:09:27 +1000 (EST) Hello Ecto, This is being written at my old terminal in Room 2.3 of the Electrical Engineering Building here at Melbourne Uni. I'm back! I've actually been back for a couple of weeks, but have been quite busy what with readjusting etc etc. I read on a recent ecto post about Happy's new album! I didn't really know about that (I've been deleting all ecto posts I haven't had time to read). Could somebody be so kind as to update me on it ? I heard somebody else mention preordering, and that sounds like a nice idea. I've send some age old photos to some of you, please let me know if you have received them. I've probably got some more too, so when I get organised I might send some more out. Bye for now, Chris. -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||Christopher Boek - boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | || Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | Tel: (03) 344 7966 (BH) 459 4141 (AH) |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| "I've got no room for a quote" CB 1994. ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 05 Aug 94 08:54:48 EST From: Ilka Heber Subject: Help for a discographie Hi everbody, Klaus Kluge and I were wondering whether you could help us compiling a discographie for Heather Nova. I actually think that only the Europeans can help here. We would like to know which CDs are out there, the order number, the track listing, the running times, and the country the CD comes from. I think especially Holland is interesting, there seems to be at least one unusal CD, but I also know that the French CD is different to the German/English ones. So, if you go into a CD shop and you see a Heather Nova CD, please note down the details and post them to me directly. I would really appreciate your help!! Thanks a lot, have a great weekend, Ilka = ) ======================================================================== From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 07:02:10 CET-1 Subject: Today's your birthday friend.... i*i*i*i*i*i *************** ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ****** Eli Brandt ***** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * New or changes made since last post Marvin Camras Sat January 1 1916 Tapehead Jeanne Schreiter Tue January 3 1967 Capricorn John Sandoval Wed January 4 1967 Capricorn Paul Cohen Tue January 5 1954 Capricorn Tony Garrity Mon January 8 1962 Pool of Life Greg Bossert Tue January 9 1962 OfTheTimes Aaron Hawkins Mon January 12 1970 Capricorn Troy J. Shadbolt Thu January 14 1971 Capricorn Chris Sampson Wed January 15 1964 Void where prohibited Dennis G Parslow Fri January 17 1964 SDCN Ross Alford Thu January 17 1957 Positive Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson Tue January 20 1970 Seanympf-Aquarius Terry Partis Sun January 22 1933 Rocker Ilka Heber Mon February 1 1965 Mermaid Bob Lovejoy Sun February 2 1947 Aquarius Diane Burke Sat February 2 1963 slow children Stephen Thomas Fri February 4 1966 Aquarius Sue Bacon Fri February 11 1966 Aquarius Doug Burks Tue February 14 1956 Blank Jim Sturnfield Thu February 18 1954 Aquarius Juha Kannisto Wed February 18 1970 Aquarius Linda Saboe Tue February 20 1951 aimless Paula Shanks Mon February 25 1952 Pisces Brni Mojzes Fri February 26 1965 the vanishing boy Pamela Pociluk Fri February 28 1964 Pisces Tim Steele Fri March 8 1963 Pisces Michael L. Smith Tue March 9 1965 Fish * kIrI Hargie Fri March 13 1970 Pisces Bob Dreano Thu March 13 1958 Pisces * Randall K. Smith Sat March 15 1969 Pisces Tod Flak Tue March 15 1966 Pisces Barry Wong Thu March 19 1970 Merlin Graham Dombkins Fri March 19 1965 Pisces Ian Young Wed March 19 1969 Falling Rocks Jeff Wasilko Wed March 19 1969 Pisces Geoff Carre Sat March 20 1954 Pisces Bob Brown Thu March 22 1951 Ham Valerie Nozick Thu March 25 1971 Aries Marc Power Sun March 30 1958 The Project Jennifer Albert Wed March 30 1966 Aries (w/Cancer rising!:) Warpaint Mon April 1 1991 Brilliant! Shorty Tue April 1 1980 happy cat Michael Pearce Wed April 3 1946 Pegasus Michael E. Bravo Mon April 5 1971 Dandelion Wine David Dixon Tue April 7 1970 Aries Klaus Kluge Sun April 10 1960 Unicorn Steve VanDevender Sun April 10 1966 Racer Art Liestman Fri April 10 1953 Repeat Michael Bowman Wed April 11 1962 Aries Janet Kirsch Thu April 11 1974 Aries Stuart Myerburg Mon April 14 1969 Aries T-Bone Wed April 15 1992 happy cat Jeff Hanson Sat April 16 1966 Aries Harry Foster Sat April 21 1956 NiceGuy Angelos Kyrlidis Fri April 22 1966 Taurus Kjetil Torgrim Homme Thu April 23 1970 Taurus Pablo Iglesias Thu April 23 1964 Positive Jeff Burka Thu April 24 1969 GoFlyAKite Christine Waite Tue April 25 1972 Taurus Brad Hutchinson Tue April 28 1964 What sign? Geoff Parks Sun April 30 1961 Taurus William Morse Tue April 30 1968 Taurus Barney Parker Fri May 2 1986 happy cat Gray Abbott Tue May 3 1955 Suprised Tamar Boursalian May 3 Taurus Mark Semich Thu May 6 1965 Yield Joe Dembski Wed May 7 1952 Rumple Brian Gregory Thu May 9 1963 Eclectic Steve Fagg Tue May 13 1958 Nightwol Karel Zuiderveld Fri May 13 1960 Stier Christopher Boek Tue May 19 1970 Taurus Yngve Hauge Fri May 21 1971 Gemini Lisa Laane Tue May 22 1973 Gemini Urs Stafford Thu May 31 1973 Give Way * Perttu Yli-Krekola Thu June 2 1966 Kaksoset Alex Gibbs Thu June 8 1967 Betelgeuse Joerg Plate Mon June 12 1967 Gemini Mark R. Susskind Wed June 15 1966 Gemini Ronald Hogan Tue June 16 1970 Bloomsday Mike Matthews Mon June 16 1969 SAFH Albert Philipsen Mon June 17 1968 Gemini Neal R. Copperman Thu June 17 1965 Gemini Ecto-The Mailing ListTue June 18 1991 Fuzzy blue Tracy Barber Mon June 18 1956 Gemini David Lubkin Fri June 20 1958 OurLady Marisa Wood Fri June 20 1969 Gemini Cheri Villines Sun June 20 1965 Gemini-Pisces Teresa VanDyne Thu June 23 1960 Cancer Dave Torok Mon June 24 1968 Cancer Ethan Straffin Thu June 24 1971 Cancer Anders Hallberg Tue July 3 1962 Cancer Kevin Harkins Thu July 5 1973 Cancer Laurel Krahn Mon July 5 1971 Cancer Jim Gurley Mon July 6 1959 Cancer Courtney Dallas Fri July 9 1971 Cat Michael Peskura Sat July 9 1949 HallOfFamer Finney T. Tsai Sat July 9 1966 Cancer Marion Kippers Tue July 13 1965 Kreeft Mitch Pravatiner Mon July 14 1952 Cancer John Zimmer Sun July 16 1961 Cancer Cathy Guetzlaff Mon July 18 1955 Cancer Vlad Sat July 18 1970 Warning: severe tire damage Jani Pinola Thu July 20 1972 Jonquil * Mark L. Hessenflow Mon July 24 1967 Lamb * David Koehler Mon July 25 1966 Leo Tom Johnson Mon July 25 1966 Leo Alvin Brattli Sun July 27 1969 Lefthanded Christy Eger Smith Thu July 27 1944 Horse Crossing * Rob Woiccak (woj) Sun July 28 1968 children at play John Relph Sat July 28 1962 Leo Bob Kollmeyer Wed July 28 1971 Leo Mark Carroll Fri July 29 1966 Hacker Steve Lusky Tue July 29 1952 Bike! Kate Bush Wed July 30 1958 God Chuck Smith Wed July 30 1958 Reboot * Kevin Knapp (smudge) Wed July 31 1968 Leo Eli Brandt August 5 Leo Martin Bridges Sat August 8 1970 BigGuy Happy Rhodes Mon August 9 1965 HolyGhost Martin Dougiamas Wed August 20 1969 Positive Tori Amos Thu August 22 1963 Leo Sam Warren Tue August 22 1961 Leo * Don Gibson Wed August 26 1959 Virgo Meredith Tarr Wed September 1 1971 Virgo Mary Lou Rowe Sat September 3 1960 Virgo Scott Zimmerman Mon September 4 1972 Virgo Mike Mendelson Fri September 4 1964 Virgo Richard Dean Wed September 6 1967 Virgo David Blank-Edelman Sat September 9 1967 Neon Holly Tominack Thu September 10 1970 Virgo Joe Zitt Sat September 20 1958 Will Hack for CDs Tim Breitkreutz Wed October 7 1964 Vogin Dan Riley Sun October 8 1961 Libra Neile Graham Wed October 8 1958 pen Quenby M. Chunco Tue October 8 1968 Crunchy Frog Wolfgang Drotschmann Thu October 13 1966 Waage Brian Bloom Tue October 14 1969 spam Erik N. Johnson Tue October 16 1962 Handle with Care Dave Steiner Sat October 24 1959 Scorpio Jessica Dembski Wed October 29 1969 Scorpio Kathleen Morrey Sat November 1 1969 Scorpio Jim Milles Thu November 1 1956 Scorpio Katie Dougiamas Sat November 2 1974 Scorpio Anthony Horan Fri November 4 1966 Positive Michael Sullivan Mon November 5 1962 Scorpio Jens Brage Sun November 8 1964 Scorpio Rising Lynn Garrett-KirchoffSat November 8 1958 Scorpio Sam Murgie Fri November 8 1957 Scorpio Ken Latta Sun November 11 1951 Scorpio Neil K. Thu November 14 1968 Grocible Elizabeth W. Warwick Sun November 15 1964 Scorpio Rod "Revvie" BourlandSun November 15 1953 Scorpio Naama Avramzon Mon November 18 1974 Scorpio Jeff Smith Mon November 19 1962 Crash Kevin Bartlett Fri November 21 1952 Scorpio Alan Ezust Fri November 21 1969 Earth Moving Claudia Spix Wed November 23 1960 Schuetze Tommy Persson Wed November 25 1964 Sagittarius Pat Tessitore November 26 Sagittarius Justin Bur Fri November 27 1964 Sagittarius Sue Trowbridge Sun November 27 1966 Skytten Onica Sun December 3 1972 Sagittarius * Chip Lueck Thu December 5 1968 Sagittarius Ken Hoyme Sun December 8 1957 Sagittarius Jeremy J. Corry Fri December 11 1970 Sagittarius Shelby Sun December 13 1970 Roscoe the Frog Laura Clifford Tue December 17 1957 Sagittarius Dirk Kastens Tue December 17 1963 Sagittarius Uli Grepel Wed December 25 1968 Steinbock Stuart Castergine Mon December 30 1963 You Are Here -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.wupper.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== Date: 05 Aug 94 09:57:33 EDT From: Mike Mendelson Subject: poignant quote from f_m Alan, the moderator of folk_music, wrote this poignant note. If you read it you will see why it applies here in spades: * *I read an interesting article in Wired magazine today, while jammed in *traffic after MacWorld, about why CDs are so much more successful than *records ever were - Even though they cost less to make and sell for much *more money. The author made a real interesting point that those economies *have made it possible for much music of only limited interest to be pressed *and sold. Used to be, if they weren't going to sell 80,000 copies of *something, they just couldn't do it. Now whole record labels are working *under a model that allows them to actually stay in the black on products *that sell 25,000 or less. Individual songwriters can actually make a few *bucks on 4000 CDs and take that money to go make more. This is a beautiful *thing. * *If things work out right, the world of 500 TV channels won't look like just *more of the same. There will be folk channels and education channels and *gay channels and chess channels. Let people decide for themselves what they *want instead of jamming it down their throat.] * -mjm ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Aug 94 20:17:57 EDT From: mojzes@monet.vill.edu (brni) Subject: an old, but not necessarily stale, topic, as i try vainly to catch up... hi y'all, just thought i'd share some of my favorite misheard lyrics w/ you. i've misheard a number of happy lyrics, and came up w/ "my dreams have parasites" and "he's gonna steal my harpy" also, from the police: "we spit, we spit in our cereal" and from the english beat: "you might meet her in the bathroom" ah well, almost done reading july's posts. wish me luck. maybe i should eat something too... c ya brni ======================================================================== From: jzitt@ssnet.com (Joseph Zitt) Subject: Coming Home! Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 22:57:21 -0400 (EDT) Well, looks like life has taken a turn for the weirder, and I'm set to return to my ancestral homeland, the land of my people, the land flowing with beer and queso: Austin, Texas! My job here in Delaware is ending, and I've decided to pick up and go back. I'm selling off about two-thirds of my CDs and half of my books and records, as well as much of my furniture, before I go. I've basically come to my senses and realized that it was time to do something thoroughly foolish. I've decided to try to live without a 9-to-5 job and go freelance. The concept that one has to be positioned at a desk for a given set of hours, regardless of: - the amount of work that has to be done, - whether interaction with others nearby is needed, or - whether the only way that the company knows how to think of the value of its employees is by quantizing the effort by irrelevant units of clock-time -- that all has struck me as inherently ludicrous. There *has* to be a better way to get things done, and I'm willing to put my poverty where my mouth is, cut way back on my worldly goods and living space, and work to find that better way. I don't what I'm going to be doing back there, or even where I'm going to be living (I'll be crashing with friends to start with), but I *do* know that I will be *there*, and will remain locatable in cyberspace as jzitt@bga.com (even if I don't have an easily located physical address or phone number). While out here in the unmystic East, I have managed to settle many of the parameters of my life that I wanted to change: I now have had a job as "Programmer" to put on my resume (the scarecrow has a diploma), I've settled almost all my debts (with the rest to be handled after I sell off the CDs), and -- biggest of all -- I finally got my driver's licence today (about 20 years late) ! I'm hoping to restart my group, Human Systems, out there, and work not only within performance but within software design, book development, and work on a sociological level. I've had some insights about the interconnections of these fields, some concepts about how to implement them, and a core of people with whom I want to work on this. I also hope to work more avidly on selling my novel, and on furthering my rock career -- I'm spending my last week out East cramming in a recording studio in Philadelphia, cutting a four or five song demo. I hope I'm not just buying into delusions of grandeur caused by being listed in Email Addresses of the Rich and Famous. This feels like the right move, though it's fraught with dangers. My target for returning to Austin is approximately 25 August. I'll be reachable at either jzitt@bga.com or jzitt@ssnet.com -- either will forward mail to where I'm really online at that point. joe (holding his nose and jumping in) ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 23:11:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Cheri Villines Subject: Re: Coming Home! Joseph, Congrats on the coming move and on the HUGE decision that you made. I have a friend and a sister in Dallas that I will be coming to see fairly regularly. Maybe we can organize a Texas ecto-gathering sometime. :) Best wishes and best of luck. cheri ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 6 Aug 94 00:18:37 EDT From: mojzes@monet.vill.edu (brni) Subject: potential ecto/etc-gathering, rsvp requested hi there, this is (hopefully) going out to 3 lists: ecto, politics, and val-l, all of which i've been connected w/ in some way for the past while... god, how long has it been? anyway, gary olsen from POLITICS is coming down to the philly area on the weekend of the 12th-14th. now, we are going to take him down to baltimore to see steve rafferty either sat or sunday, we being myself and linda, that is. on the other day, i was thinking of having a party of sorts for listfolk. so what i need to know is, is anyone interested in getting together in scenic germantown, philadelphia that weekend? if you are, what day would you be able to make it, so that we can figure out what day we are going to baltimore? ok, here it is: if it is on saturday, we'd need to leave for baltimore shortly after lunch on sunday. people should feel free to crash here overnight. if it is on sunday, we'll make sure that we are back by lunchtime, and we can have people over any time after that. again, you can crash here overnight, if you want. i don't work on mondays, so it isn't really a problem for me. of course, i suspect that some of you *do* have the pleasure of working on mondays, and i can understand why this might bother you... so, anyway, send me personal mail to let me know if you are interested. we'll work out details later, if there is enough interest to make it fly. linda sez that i've covered everything. i'll take her word for it. oh, i just thought of something else! if you come to visit, then you get to see her exciting new tattoo! :) ta brni ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 06 Aug 1994 12:40:34 +0100 (CET) From: Marcel Rijs Subject: Re: ecto #1198 Hi, There has been a buzz over Happy being released in Holland. Well, as I have advertised quite a few times on ecto, I got all my Happy CD's through Fame, a big music store in Amsterdam, who have all her CD's in stock. They infrom me that they get the CD's from a distributor who imports them fr9om the US. Sure enough, the CD's are all US made. There's no sign of a record company releasing the CD's here in Holland, it's just an import job. BTW, the CD's are selling real well at Fame. It seems there are a lot of Kate Fans who get directed to Happy by one employee hwo's a Kate & Happy fan himself. And they only "discovered" (read: started to sell) Happy CD's last year! Marcel Rijs ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 6 Aug 94 17:51:37 MET DST From: Albert Philipsen Subject: Geolyn Has anyone here heard of a Californian singer named Geolyn Carvin? (I won't be satisfied with a simple yes/no answer.) I heard and saw her singing at Triangle Square in Costa Mesa. Something about her voice, lyrics and music made me stop, sit down and listen. I think I was the only one paying any real attention to her at that moment. After she'd finished her song, I walked up to her to drop a few dollars in her tip bucket, and asked her if she was selling her music. She was, so I bought a tape from her for $5. I had to leave after that, but I wish I could have listened a little longer. The tape is called _Stranded_, and has six songs on it: "Stranded", "Do I, Do I", "Hieroglyphics", "Resolutions", "Your Fate" and "Geobeam", for a total of about 25 minutes of music. The tape is from 1992, and I suspect that she's grown musically after recording it, because I enjoyed her live performance much better than the tape. Her voice and guitar playing sounded better and her lyrics more interesting. Any additional information about this singer would be very much appreciated. On the inside of the tape cover, there's written: for more information on who the hell this girl Geolyn is, write to: Geolyn, P.O. Box 1304, Whittier, CA 90609-1304. I might write her myself if that turns out to be necessary. Albert ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 06 Aug 94 13:32:07 CDT From: Courtney the Employed!!! Subject: Employment Well all..prayers _can_ work it seems. I was notified yesterday (Friday) that the people I interviewed with on Thursday wanted me to come work for them. We formalize and finalize everything Monday the 15th!! What this means is that I will be still living in Memphis, tho NOT with me parents, and Kiri will only be an hour away at school!!! This works out alot of problems that we were anticipating! Meredith, woj,and Tamar, I am _really_ sorry that I wont be living up there, but New Haven simply didnt respond fast enough and I got snapped up. I am still negotiating salary, but everything else is set. I am really excited to be qworking, and a little fearful since I know almost _nothing_ about Accounting and Auditing, and that is the main focus of my compoany, Arthur Andersen, and Co. Oh well...I will be unsubscribing once I leave school, but I should be getting on a Delphi system in Memphis ASAP. ANyone have a suggestion as to how to contact them?? Thanks all.. Courtney the Employed (and before I even graduated! YIPPPPPPPPEEEEE!!!) ======================================================================== From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 07:26:43 CET-1 Subject: Today's your birthday friend.... i*i*i*i*i*i *************** ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* **** Martin Bridges *** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Martin Bridges Sat August 8 1970 BigGuy Happy Rhodes Mon August 9 1965 HolyGhost Martin Dougiamas Wed August 20 1969 Positive Tori Amos Thu August 22 1963 Leo Sam Warren Tue August 22 1961 Leo Don Gibson Wed August 26 1959 Virgo Marcel Rijs Mon August 31 1970 A rose growing old Meredith Tarr Wed September 1 1971 Virgo Mary Lou Rowe Sat September 3 1960 Virgo Scott Zimmerman Mon September 4 1972 Virgo Mike Mendelson Fri September 4 1964 Virgo Richard Dean Wed September 6 1967 Virgo -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.wupper.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== Date: 08 Aug 94 13:07:06 EDT From: Mike Mendelson Subject: where is ecto? Haven't received a digest in a long time. For Chicago people who are living in a box, with a clock, etc. MILLA (jovovich) is scheduled to appear at 10pm at Schuba's (Southport/Belmont) Tue. Aug. 8. I think tix are like $8. They may have been available in advance but I doubt there'll be any problem getting in at the door (and who wants to contribute to the Ticketslime autocracy, anyways?). Hope to see some of you there. -mjm ======================================================================== Date: 08 Aug 94 14:34:02 EDT From: Mike Mendelson Subject: Re: milla TYPO CORRECTION: Milla is playing at Schuba's (Chicago) on Tue. Aug. NINE (9). The 8th is today (monday). sorry. -mjm ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:15:24 -0400 (EDT) From: S Trowbridge Subject: Late night musical guests I know I just posted this a few days ago, but there are a couple of especially tasty additions, particularly for the ectophiles among you. LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN, 11:35 P.M. ET, CBS 8/8 Celine Dion 8/9 Peter Gabriel 8/11 Joe Cocker 8/18 Crosby, Stills and Nash 8/19 Edie Brickell THE TONIGHT SHOW, 11:35 P.M. ET, NBC 8/9 David Wilcox 8/10 Cyndi Lauper 8/11 Leon Redbone 8/12 Meat Loaf 8/15 Joe Williams 8/18 Babyface 8/19 Special performance by bandleader Branford Marsalis LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN, 12:35 A.M. ET, NBC 8/8 Roger McGuinn 8/9 Nick Cave 8/10 Stuttering John 8/15 Ray Romano 8/16 Milla 8/17 Kiss 8/19 College band search winner LATER WITH GREG KINNEAR, 1:35 A.M. ET, NBC 8/23 Crosby, Stills and Nash 8/24 Tori Amos *** This list is distributed to subscribers of the radio-concerts list and ecto, a mailing list devoted to discussion of alternative female artists such as Happy Rhodes, Tori Amos, Sarah McLachlan and Kate Bush. *** People who receive ecto in digest form may subscribe to the ectotv mailing list and receive these bulletins immediately -- including late- breaking updates, if we get 'em! Send mail to trow@access.digex.net. --posted by Sue Trowbridge ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 13:09:41 CDT From: Subject: The tribulations of homemade birthday gifts, and other stories Many years ago, _Consumer Reports_ ran an article about how the good fight was fought against one consumer-unfriendly product or another. The lead sentence of the last paragraph was, "To a comedy of errors came a quiet anticlimax." Somehow, it seems to fit the process of getting Happy's copy of the Happy Birthday Project tapes, and the accompanying gift deluxe edition of the New, Improved Ecto Product File, fired off to Bearsville. Several weeks ago, when nobody seemed to have any specific ideas on what to give Happy this year in addition to the tapes, I ran the idea by Doug of giving her our answer to the classic Sears catalog. It sounded good to him, but he suggested leaving the floor open to other suggestions for a little while. None materialized, and the week before last, I got down to business converting the archived mass of plaintext into a mass of laser-print with esthetically pleas- ing page breaks, page numbers, etc. I printed out the file as it stood, and gave it a careful proofread. Then I inserted text formatting commands for margins, typical page length, and page numbering. After a lot of trial and error over several days, I finally got it looking reasonably good. It takes time to figure when you need to add lines to a given page, or subtract them, in order to avoid splitting a paragraph in weird places--especially when you're doing it on a terminal, with no conclusive idea of how it'll look on paper. I had found a report cover sale-priced at an office supply store downtown, appropriately in dark blue, and snapped it right up. I printed sample pages with various left margins, to see which one would yield the most pleasing alignment of text within white space when the pages were in the cover. I eventually found one that worked. Doug sent me successive emails that he had mailed me the tapes last Monday, and a corrected copy of the inlay cards and track listing the next day, and predicted that they'd reach me in the same sequence. They did. In the mean- time, my readings of the file turned up allusions to other posts, that I thought might be apropos, and I set about finding them within the limits of time and available computing resources. I found many of them, and incorporated them into the file. Needless to say, this necessitated redoing much of the pagination, but it frequently yielded a superior distribution of posts over pages than there had been before. Wednesday, I went shopping for wrapping paper in an esthetically pleasing, untrite design. I found a square of paper in an upscale fancy gadget shop: "X" and "O" characters in black reverse type on a beckground of brown. In exchange for my $2.25, they encased the roll in a lot of tissue paper. As I made my way home, a thunderstorm hit, naturally at a time when I was unarmed with an umbrella. I was, fortunately, able to get the paper home without it getting too wet; but naturally, my first act on getting inside was to spread the stuff out to dessicate. Thursday was devoted to incorporating the post I'd sent to the list the day before, proposing a new laundry list of products on the basis of track title information from _Building the Colossus_ that Vickie had posted the week before. Then I ran a final check on the pagination, formatted the file, and printed it out. As I checked the output, everything was copacetic for a time; but around page 19 an enormous blank space materialized. I had inadvertently placed a page eject at the end of a particular post, rather than the post right after it as I had intended. I decided that as long as I would need to reprint much of the file anyway, I'd reproof everything overnight. It paid off, for I discovered additional spots in need of correction. The tapes were in my incom- ing mail at home, as I'd predicted they'd be on the basis of the reported date of mailing. Friday morning, I corrected the pagination in the file, and created a new file with the full formatted text. Since many of the pages from the first copy were still viable, I edited the formatted file to include only those which had been redone. As I was doing this, my walkman went dead--in my preoccupation with getting Happy's gift finalized, I had forgotten to take a new set of batteries with me, and thus was done out of what had been, by my construction of the announcements earlier that morning, an afternoon of very good programming on WBEZ. This was a small price to pay, I later rationalized, for getting Happy's birthday present squared away. I printed out the new pages, and collated them with the good parts of the original set. I then took the presumably final product to a copy shop to get holes punched in the left margin, and packed it all into the binder. There being less than three hours, by then, until my neighborhood post office closed, I started for home in order to gift-wrap everything. I just missed one subway train headed downtown. As I waited for the next, I looked through the bound copy of the product file, and noticed that in redoing the title page to reflect the new edition and date, I had somehow zapped the line "Compiled by Mitch Pravatiner." In the rather agitated state I was in at that moment, it seemed like a significant omission. I was going to stop at the office supply store anyway, to get an envelope big enough to hold the book and the two cassettes, bubble-wrapped. It thus became a simple matter to also get a quantity of rubber cement, and make a label to put into the label space on the cover. As I sat on the homeward-bound bus, I did another spot-check of the final prod- uct, and noticed that at the end of one post, a footnote I had inserted had both the word I had chosen initially, and the one I chose shortly thereafter to replace it. The text made limited sense that way. I resolved to put some correction fluid on the redundant word when I got home. When I finally arrived there, the corrected track list was waiting for me. I got the wrapping paper, scotch tape, scissors, bubble wrap, etc. together, and set about assembling the final package, in the interstices of periodically moving my cats out of the way as they angled for a better look at the curious scenario unfolding. I brushed some overthick correction fluid onto the aforesaid redundant word, discovering that this created a somewhat irreglarly-textured surface at that spot. (It dawned on me only today that if the cover provided the blueness, that spot provided the fuzziness :-). ) I then typed a title onto a piece of blank paper, and miraculously succeeded in cutting it to something vaguely resembling the proper dimensions, with the text reasonably well-centered within it, and rubber-cemented it to the cover. As I waited for that to dry, I turned to the task of substituting the corrected inlay card for the original one in one of the cassette boxes, and finally wrapped everything. The sheet of wrapp- ing paper was sufficient to cover all the items in question, with very little left over. I was, for all that, unable to avoid getting a cat hair stuck in the scotch tape on one cassette; but that was a minor consideration under the circumstances :-). When you send out resumes as often as I do, you get heavily into cover letters; so I then dashed off a cover letter to Happy explaining what was enclosed and why. That done, I was finally able to address the manila envelope, put bubble wrap on the tapes, stuff the tapes, document and cover letter into the enve- lope, seal the latter, lift the cat off my jacket, and get it all out the front door. It was approximately 4:35 PM. I walked the six blocks or so to the post office in about 15 minutes, give or take, and managed to get the critical item into the mail stream (or maelstrom, as the U.S. Postal Service sometimes looks like :-) ) within 10 minutes of closing time. The saunter back home somehow seemed more leisurely than the outbound trek, though objectively it probably took about the same time. After making up for the lunch I had missed for the sake of the timely culmination of the whole process, I began the task of picking up after myself. I discovered, to my unpleasant surprise, that I had inadvertently left the detailed list of musical selections and their contributors. I calmly contemplated what I'd say in a second cover letter to Happy, typed it out, enclosed the track list and cover letter in an envelope, stamped the latt- er, and noticed it was time for _Star Trek: The Next Generation_, in which I soon became engrossed. Since the next pickup from the mailbox in the next block was at 1:30 PM the next day, the additional delay would have only limited practical significance. I finally mailed it, and have been keeping my fingers crossed ever since that the post office which collects from that box works faster than the one that collects from the box in the other direction from my house, which is in a different zip code, and where I mailed an additional tape of HBP material to Doug the other week that seemed to take a day longer than it should have to reach him. This conundrum, I fear, is one that can only be resolved empirically :-). Sunday morning, I awoke to the usual sound of the cats chasing each other around the room, and to the unusual sound of _Weekend Edition_ on NPR announ- cing an upcoming interview with Loreena McKennitt. Unfortunately, I soon dozed off again, and missed much of the interview. I did manage to pick up on her comments that in the music on her latest album, she had tried to trace the movement of the Celts from their origins in Eastern Europe, to points further west and south in addition to what are now the British Isles, most notably the Spanish region of Galicia. Later on it sounded like she said she was interes- ted in sociology, which naturally warmed the cockles of my heart no end, and that this had kindled her interest in the sociocultural aspects of the music with which she deals. It seems to me that between Loreena yeaterday and Sam Philips the week before, _Weekend Edition_ is in a receptive mood for the likes of Happy; the release of the new album would be a perfect time peg for this. Her handlers should keep it in mind. Mitch ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)