Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #724 ecto, Number 724 Friday, 27 August 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Wheels, Heels and Beals Re: Roger Eno/Kate St. John Cor Anglais Re: Warning, Stephen King talk Sinead Explanation (NOT Bjork!!!!!!) the repeating messages from emory I've FIGURED IT OUT! You don't have to be Juha to love Levy's Rye--or ecto ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 11:17:30 PDT From: Neal R. Copperman Subject: Wheels, Heels and Beals >>I hope Natalie continues to release albums, though if she really is >>going to go back and finish college, good for her! (Actresses have >>done it, Jodie Foster, Jennifer Beals, Brooke Shields, so why not >>Natalie?) And what has it done for them? Except for Jodie Foster, we don't see anything of these people, do we? Although it's probably more a comment on them than on college. What's the Wheels ans Heels of Fire race? Neal ======================================================================== From: brianb@lobby.ti.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Re: Roger Eno/Kate St. John Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 13:28:44 CDT Gary gushed: > I've just heard the new Roger Eno/Kate St. John CD. I highly highly > highly highly highly highly highly highly highly highly highly > recommmend it!!!!! > > It's the best I've ever heard REno come up with! > > For those who don't know already, REno is BEno's (little?) brother. I > don't know where Kate St. John comes from, but her voice is very nice, and > she wrote all the lyrics and played oboe and cor anglais (somebody tell me > what this is). > Kate St. John is from Dream Academy. I think her whispering singing sounds very much like Julee Cruise or the Cranes (whatever her name is). I don't own the album but I've heard a track and it definitely sounds like EctoFodder (tm). br!an -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@lobby.ti.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 14:49:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Mary_C._Tabasko@transarc.com Subject: Cor Anglais Gary Nichols, talkinga bout the new Roger Eno/Kate St. John CD, asks: > [Kate St. John] wrote all the lyrics and played oboe and cor anglais > (somebody tell me what this is). The cor anglais, aslo known as the English horn, is a member of the double-reed woodwind family, as are the oboe and the bassoon. If you think of the English horn as a "tenor oboe," you've got the idea (no insult to double-reed players out there!). It bridges the range between the oboe and the bassoon. I think it's an underutilized instrument! -- Kate ======================================================================== From: "Michael Blackmore" Date: 27 Aug 93 15:02:36 EST Subject: Re: Warning, Stephen King talk Steve, > Actually, Corky (also Corin) Nemec was the star of the > much-beloved and now defunct _Parker Lewis Can't Lose_ (well, > much-beloved by me; I remember Angelos saying he could never > develop a taste for the show). So they're not all unknowns. And > now I'll have to watch it, since after PLCL I became very > impressed with Corky's acting abilities and presence. He was > also in some miniseries having to play little brother to a now > ludicrously grown-up Ricky Schroeder and stole the show (he ended > up shooting Ricky's character). Beyond Parker Lewis (which I loved and will miss). Corin "Corky" Nemec won an Emmy for is portrayal of Stephen in the TV movie, "I Know my First Name is Stephen". So he's hardly unknown. - Michael B. ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 12:25:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Neile Graham Subject: Sinead At the risk of starting an argument with Joe Zitt, who said "In a better universe, her [Sinead's] second album would have been _Suspiria_.", I'm going to disagree and say in a better universe her second album would have been _Dry_ or _Rid Of Me_. While I like a lot of _Suspiria_ there are parts of it that ring too familiarly of the gothic sounds of mid 70s Renaissance, and the kind of passion isn't anguished in the same way Sinead is. PJ Harvey is closer, though I guess I would say she's past of the anguish of love that Sinead expresses in _The Lion and the Cobra_ into the anger of sex. PJ is more gut-wrenching, Miranda Sex Garden are a little more mind-wrenching. --Neile neile@u.washington.edu P.S. Joe, since you write poetry too I'd much rather argue with you about what a line of poetry is or isn't. ;) ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 16:42:14 -0400 From: labspm@slab.cc.emory.edu (Stuart Myerberg) Subject: Explanation (NOT Bjork!!!!!!) I almost fear writing this since everyone, including myself, may see it more often than anyone could possibly bear. But I'm hoping the problem has passed and this will not be a repeat of the "Bjork Horror." As I'm sure you know by now (and if you don't, you've been spared), my last message to Ecto was being sent out, oh, every half hour or so. I was not pleased, and neither were many of you. As I saw my message being constantly blasted out to me, I hoped it was something I could solve. Unfortunately, it was a problem with the Emory mail server. Apparently, it would not delete my mail from the queue once it was sent out. So, it continued to process it quite regularly. I called the data center here for help, but they did not have access privileges to delete my message. So, it kept being sent until someone with powers to delete could excise the sucker from the queue. I contacted Jessica to let her know this was going to be happening, and she was very understanding (THANK YOU! :-)) Hopefully, the problem has been solved. Otherwise, we might be seeing this explanantion ad nauseum. Anyway, sorry for "Bjorking you to death," as Vickie so aptly put it. :-) Stuart (whose King o' Pain has been replaced by his name MISSPELLED because he is on a different computer) _____________________________________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg "I want to be a lawyer, I want to be a Emory Univ. Law School scholar. But I really can't be bothered." labspm@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu -Kate Bush _o_ |< _____________________________________________________________________ ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 17:45:46 EDT From: jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu (jessica) Subject: the repeating messages from emory Hi all. I'm sorry abotu the repeating posts from emory. As you know, the problem is on their end, and there isn't anything I can do about it from here! I have sent mail to Stuart asking him not to send any more messages until the problem has been fixed! I hate for him to not be able to send mail to the list.. but I know the repeated messages are a problem for some people. I do hope that emory will clear this up quickly!! jessica ======================================================================== From: dcwalter@tomservo.b23b.ingr.com (Christian Walters) Subject: I've FIGURED IT OUT! Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 17:01:07 CDT Okay. I just discovered Happy Rhodes, right? Got an album, looked at the Gifs and what-not. And it was BUGGING me the whole time: where have I seen this girl before? Then it struck me. She is almost a dead ringer for the psycho- redneck woman in the Quantum Leap episode where Sam leaps into a soap opera star and is kidnapped by a psycho-redneck woman and her husband who want to have his (Sam's) baby! I'm glad I figured that out. Now maybe I can get some sleep. :) -- Christian Walters * "There are many reasons for a man to Intergraph Corporation * fight: love, God, country, friends. Electronics Division * But I would mud wrestle my own mother Huntsville, AL * for a ton of cash, an amusing alarm * clock, and a sack of French porn." -- ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 17:04:35 CDT From: "I survived the mailbombing of August '93 :-)" Subject: You don't have to be Juha to love Levy's Rye--or ecto As this is written, I have so far received one supernumerary copy of Stuart's post explaining the supernumerary posts on Bjork's layout in _RS_. All of which begs the question: if Supreme Court nominees can be Borked, can mailing lists now be Bjorked? :-) By an interesting coincidence, yesterday I went to see _The Last Action Hero_ (whose humor is too good for the teenybopper audience, BTW), and bought what turned out to be Icelandic mineral water to wash down my popcorn. I found it much more refreshing than the carbonic-acid-and-carbohydrate concoctions that they principally sell at the candy counter. (Ah, alliteration! :-) To which, in turn, my first reaction is: Ah, Assonance! :-) ) Clearly, they've got a good thing going up there. By a strange coincidence, at this moment _All Things Considered_ is running a piece on a band of Finnish women called "Vartana" (sp.?) ("spindle"). Theirs is an unusual and interesting traditional folk-oriented sound, reminiscent in some ways of the Voix Mystere &c. from Bulgaria. Recently, Vickie eivciked in response to one of my posts: >> Last week I got Lisa, but not Susan. Do I now get turned into a pillar of >> salt, or what? > >Yes, celery salt! For some unknown reason (the modal explanation for most events in my life :-) ) that reminded me of the _Shoe_ comic strip in the previous day's _Tribune_, in which the Perfesser is seated at the bar at Roz's Roost, and Roz suggests he try a Face-Down Sunset Siesta. What's in it, he inquires, and is told that it contains three kinds of rum, a celery stalk [which probably triggered the ass- ociation], chunks of pineapple, and a whole grain pretzel. In the final panel, the Perfesser ruefully notes to himself the arrival on earth of High-Fiber Booze. Actually, all this talk of things Nordic reminds me of the running gag in _Twin Peaks_, WRT to the visitors from Iceland who were the principal tenants in the Great Northern Hotel during Agent Cooper's stay. Which, in turn, re- minds me of the premiere of _Angel Falls_ (I think it was) last night, which had me thinking that if they'd only do it tongue in cheek, like _TP_ did, it would be great fun to watch (as it is, it would be great fun to give the _MST3000_ treatment to). I actually gave up the first 20 minutes to watch the Monica Seles interview on _Prime Time Live_; had I only known that the latter would be redone on _World News Now_ :-). Meredith tarrs and feathers :-) my proposal for a division of labor on the radio: >Hey, what if I don't *want* to share the ecto-goddess-deejay-lady >honors, huh? What if I want to be Sole Deity in that department? >Methinks there's not room in the studio for the three of us. ;) Who said anything about doing it all from one studio? As I envisioned it, the polytheistic airwaves I envisioned would have given each exclusive juris- diction within their respective regions, as currently defined by the U.S. Census Bureau :-). WRT Neal's account of his close encounter with a _Silk Stalkings_ location shoot: I find it reassuring to hear it's still in production; maybe this means there's still hope for _Sweating Bullets_, _Forever Knight_, and all the others that Letterman is displacing from the late night schedule. Hopefully, their next time periods will be ones when I don't fall asleep on them as often. :-) I just reread some of the day's incoming, and discovered that Vickie had al- ready made a similar joke about Bjorking the list. Credit where credit is due, etc. :-) I, too, was curious about the alternate meaning of "Fanny" in the British idiom; so I looked it up in a dictionary of British English, and found that it once had the additional referent of the pudenda, though creeping Americanism is causing that to be displaced by the meaning more familiar to us Yanks. What is the meaning of pudenda, you ask. To paraphrase Casey Stengel, you can look it up in your talking CD ROM dictionary :-). >"save pink cinema" which I'm certainly all for doing, whatever it is.) In the 50s, it might have been a tongue-in-cheek battle cry for the anti- blacklisting movement. Now that the National Endowment for the Arts is in presumably friendly hands, I'm less certain of the current meaning, if any :-). As I was reading today's incoming ecto posts preparatory to composing this latest installment in my ongoing series of amorphous essays, someone sat down at a terminal in the row in front of me, and began what looked from a distance like an IRC session. I found this a pleasing sight, because it held out the hope that there was now some kind of talk server on this system, enabling me to possibly get in on this real-time chat between ectophiles I've been hearing about. Then I noticed what looked, from a distance, like the contours of the word "Telnet" in a corner of her screen, indicating that it was a remote login to the talk server at some other installation. Can't win 'em all... :-). Speaking of which: the latest _Computer Underground Digest_ contains a paper about some of the interactions that go on on IRC, and the authors' conclusions include this: >[...] we see participants on IRC as pioneers exploring a >new communicative frontier, rather than immature computer science >students wasting institutional resources by "fooling around" when they >should be "working." By extension, so are participants on its companion cybertool, mailing lists, which it is my great pleasure to point out for the benefit and use of Steve Fagg's bosses :-). Seriously, it looks to me like there's probably an unusual bug in the mail software over there; it's unusual for reports like this to come to my attention, particularly since the mailer here sends the handle strings out in quotes when they contain special characters. The copy of Steve' s post that was addressed to me directly reached me uneventfully, with only a line in the header referring to a parsing error due to unbalanced parenthe- ses. >The moral of this story is to take care not to trust the addresses >generated by Mr. "Different name everytime I post" Like the scorpion in the parable related by Forest Whitaker in _The Crying Game_: It's in my nature :-). Mitch ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)