Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #723 ecto, Number 723 Friday, 27 August 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Tra la la Warning, Stephen King talk Re: Bjork Re: I'm going to order some albums, and... Re: Bjork Self-sufficiency More American English Re: More American English Re: Neile, Neile and other stories (fwd) Re: I before E Re: Self-sufficiency oops ooivletce!! Roger Eno/Kate St. John ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 1:23:48 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Tra la la Poor King 'o Pain, his system's gone haywire and is bjorking us to death. (Thanks for the info though!) Thanks to all who are adding to my lexicon list. Please, I *have* to know what's so funny about "fanny"! Bo/bilinda, why are you cranky? (I love that word. Cranky. I hardly ever hear it anymore.) I know you were waiting with baited breath for this :-) Last night's Chicago show, slightly different from the KC version: Kate Bush-"Home For Christmas" Kate Bush-"December Will Be Magic Again"-single Happy Rhodes-"Come Here"-RHODES II Lisa Germano-"Miamo-tutti"-HAPPINESS Lisa Germano-"Bad Attitude"-HAPPINESS Susan Voelz-"New Harmony Waltz"-13 RIBS Susan Voelz-"Bearer of the Torch"-13 RIBS The Cranberries-"Waltzing Back"-EVERYBODY... Alison Moyet-"My Right Arm"-HOODOO Judie Tzuke-"Dominique"-TURNING STONES Gyan-"How Can You"-GYAN Sarah McLachlan-"Wear Your Love Like Heaven"-SOLACE 10,000 Maniacs-"Noah's Dove"-OUR TIME IN EDEN (Thanks to Christo, who brought the Kate Bush song with him, and for giving me the Gyan CD as a gift) (Neile, I've been listening to the Lisa album a lot, but hadn't really paid attention to the titles. I'm embarrassed :-) ) MyChris bought the Judie Tzuke album when he was in Los Angeles. I really don't like it very much, but there are a few songs I think are decent. Maybe I have to listen to it more. She has *such* an amazing voice and delivery, but of the albums I've heard, I can count the songs that I really, *really* like on one hand. There's not one entire album I'd recommend as a whole, though there are still albums of hers that I haven't heard yet. I like every song on Lisa's album and The Cranberries' album, most of the songs on Susan's album, only a few on Judie's, Gyan's and Alison's albums (I am only talking now about those albums listed above). Wrt Gyan, though I think the album is very uneven, I jumped up and down (well, not literally) with joy because it's the one with the song "Black Wedding Ring" on it and I was dying to have that on CD, especially since I'd worn out the tape that Martin Dougiamas sent me. Literally, there were dropouts in that song from me playing it over and over. Alison Moyet is another artist who is uneven, though I love her voice too. Some Yaz songs are great, some not so. Same with this album, though the good songs are *very* good, and her voice will knock you out no matter what she's singing. Needless to say, Sarah's a goddess. Natalie is too, though EDEN is by far my least favorite album by 10kM, which I guess is kaput :-(. I hope Natalie continues to release albums, though if she really is going to go back and finish college, good for her! (Actresses have done it, Jodie Foster, Jennifer Beals, Brooke Shields, so why not Natalie?) I've never watched a tennis match in my life, but I've just seen an interview with Monica Seles and I'm an instant fan. I hope I'm watching when she gets back into competition. She said she's only held a tennis racket to bounce a ball, but that she hasn't tried to swing a racket yet and hasn't set foot on a tennis court at all, so it will be a while. She's still in pain, physically and psychologically. Since I'm completely ignorant of the goings-on in the tennis world, I was shocked to hear that her tennis-playing peers had voted to take away her #1 altogether. I would have assumed she would be "set aside" somehow until she could come back and defend her title, or until she quit tennis, if that's what she was going to do. Btw, in the interview she said that no way was she going to quit tennis. Maybe someone who's familiar with tennis politics can tell me how the other players can vote such a thing. Sounds bitchy to me. I'm still not interested in tennis (perhaps watching Monica will change that) but I just want to see her come back and beat the pants off of everyone and prove that she *deserved* to be #1. Pah! (While I'm at it, what the hell is a "seed" and how did such a silly term come to mean rank?) Neal queries: > Vickie VAMPS or maybe SIEVES; > >> Nighty night, Juha > > > > Wow! I thought my mom and I were the only people in the universe who > > said that...how wonderful! > > I just have to wonder why your family says "Nighty night, Juha"? Because in my family, we were all nicknamed "Juha" and though it got confusing at bedtime with us all saying "Nighty night, Juha" we were pretty much able to tell who was saying nighty night to who (whom?) No one ever calls me Juha anymore, so I was delighted to see my old nickname in Ecto. It made me feel so warm and fuzzy! > Eivcik, we vleo you too. (Eivcik sounds like a much more imposing name. I > don't think I'd ever mess with an Eivcik, not like I'd mess with a Vickie > either, but you get the drift.) You see, my name used to be Eivcik Juha Thompson, though nobody used my first name because it was too hard to pronounce. Eivcik is Viking for "cute as a button, and small too" and since I was born premature and only weighed 3 lbs, 5 oz at birth (that's true, actually) the "and small too" was perfect. Because I, like all babies, looked like a lizard at birth, my parents weren't quite sure about the "cute as a button" part and almost named me Hjicik, which means "lizard-like, and small too" but they had faith, in me and in the power of postive thinking, and so Eivcik it was. Everyone in my family had "Juha" somewhere in our name, so that was a given. By pure luck, since ancient times, all my family members have been able to find partners with "Juha" in their name too and as far as I know, there's never been any intermarriage. Of course, that's why Chris and I can't get married, because he is totally devoid of a Juha in his name. Which means, of course, that Juha in Finland and I will probably have to get married if I want to keep up the tradition. My son is named Adrian Gabriel Juha Mapes, so someday he'll need to find a Juha lady for himself. (Aaaaaaactually, I was named Vickie Ann Thompson. I don't know why I wasn't a Victoria. I always wanted to be a Victoria. If I were a Victoria and Chris and I got married, my name would be Victoria Williams. Damn! I could do what Happy did and go to court to change my name, but it's just not the same as if it had come naturally. Strange, I don't even know where or why my parents came up with the name Vickie. SteveF, sorry it's taken so long to answer this question. Btw, I'm of German/Irish/ Swedish heritage. Adrian really is named Adrian Gabriel Mapes. He was born *after* I was first entranced by Genesis on Midnight Special in 1973, but *before* I found out the lead singer's name. Mapes is, obviously, my ex-husband's name, and since we've been divorced since 1978, it really is about time I lose the name. One of these days, when I have an extra $400.00 for the court costs, I will be Mapes no more. I have -zero- interest in going back to Thompson, so I probably will pull a Marvin and change my name to Williams. If I did that, Mike Peskura would have to come up with a different anagram. His, for Vickie Ann Mapes was "save pink cinema" which I'm certainly all for doing, whatever it is.) I thought "tachyon" was something like Scotch tape, or Post-It Notes, which is why I was confused. If mail were like that, they'd all stick together and arrive in one big glob. Thanks to SteveF, DanR & BobL for setting me straight! tachyons=ESP, got it! (Seriously, it's honestly fascinating to read what you guys have been writing about them.) (Chris indicated that my ignorance of the word was a dead giveaway that I don't watch "Star Trek-The Next Generation" and, well...ooops, he's right. It's not that I dislike it or anything, I just never get around to watching it) Neal, you old surfer dude you, it's "Silk Stalkings" (not that I watch it). Vickie ("just call me Ecto Goddess Neurotic Ma Deejay Lady Midwest Magic") ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 2:31:48 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Warning, Stephen King talk I'm so excited! I found out that "Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption" is being made into a movie! It's a serious one too, starring Morgan Freeman and Tim Robbins! I don't know who's directing. It's my all-time favorite Stephen King short story! (It's in _Different Seasons_ and it's not horror at all, fyi those who think SK only writes horror.) They'll certainly change the name. I'm curious what they'll come up with. The story "The Body" (also from Different Seasons) ended us as the movie _Stand By Me_. If anyone hears who's directing or any other information about it, please post. It won't be out for a while. They're filming now in an Ohio prison. As long as I'm on the subject of SK movies, here's a cast list for _The Stand_. Are you Stand fans ready for this? Gary Sinise as Stu Redman Molly Ringwald as Franny Goldsmith Rob Lowe as Nick Andros Jamey Sheridan as Randall Flagg Diane Lane as Julie Lawry Laura San Giacomo as Nadine Ruby Dee as Mother Abigail Matt Frewer as Trashcan Man Moses Gunn as Judge Ferris Corky Nemec as Harold Lauder Ray Walston as Glen Bateman Adam Storke as Larry Underwood That's all that was listed. Unaccounted for: Tom Cullen, Joe (the little boy), Lloyd Henreid, Ralph Brentner, Dayna Jurgens, various Flagg minions such as Jenny Engstrom, Whitney Horgan and Paul Burlson. Franny's father, Trashcan Man's bully Carley Yates, the Shoyo sheriff & his wife, lots of others, but those are the main people. I'm not going to judge the cast until I actually see the movie. Some I'm looking forward too and some I'm wary about. The actors playing the 4 major characters (Stu, Flagg, Harold & Larry) are unknowns, which I think is a good sign. I wish an unknown were playing Nick too, though Rob Lowe *is* a good actor and I have faith he'll do a good job. It's a tough role though, since Nick is deaf and mute. Still, I'm more curious than wary. Ruby Dee should be perfect as Mother Abigail (though I always pictured Cicely Tyson's old Miss Pittman as Mother) and though Matt Frewer is the *last* person I would have pictured as Trashcan Man, I'm looking forward to seeing what he'll do with the character. (Matt Frewer was Max Headroom). Diane Lane seems a bit old for Julie, but she'll make it work. Laura San Giacomo is suitably mysterious to play Nadine, but I fear she's too exotic. We'll see. The biggest suprise for me is Molly Ringwald as Franny. I can't even *picture* her as Franny, and though I really like Molly, I'm wary. Franny is my favorite character, and I hope Molly does her proud. Ray Walston should be perfect for Glen Bateman. It's an 8-hour miniseries on ABC. Yay because they're giving it enough time to not have to butcher the book. It never, *ever* would have worked as a 2, or even 3-hour movie. Boo because it's on a network, which means conservatism and commercials. Yay because at least ABC has shown, with Twin Peaks and Wild Palms, that they're not afraid of controversey and weirdness. I don't know when it's supposed to air. If anyone hears, *please* post. I don't usually buy TV Guide and I'd *hate* to miss it! _The Stand_ is my favorite Stephen King book, and I've been waiting for this movie for a long, long time. It *better* be good! Vickie ======================================================================== From: rhogan@chaph.usc.edu (Ron Hogan) Subject: Re: Bjork Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 00:08:03 -0700 (PDT) -> I just got my new issue of _Rolling Stone_ in the mail today and was -> surprised to see Bjork in the "Fall Fashion" section. Along with some -> nice pictures of Bjork in designer clothes, there is a pretty good -> (albeit short) article. There isn't a whole lot of info., but they did -> mention that she is rehearsing "for her upcoming tour"! I hope this -> will include stops in America. Anyway, thought you all would be -> interested... The first three times, I really was interested. Now I just can't be bothered to care anymore. Are you experiencing a technical difficulty at your site, Stuart? I don't suppose I need to tell everybody that "When I Was a Boy" is pure pop heaven, do I? ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 3:16:08 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: I'm going to order some albums, and... Yngve, dear Yngve, bless his heart: > As the subject says - I'm going to order some albums and therefore > I need some recommendations of albums by some artists/groups - > > Throwing Muses Hunkpapa or House Tornado (House Tornado is my favorite TM album, but Hunkpapa has my favorite TM song on it, "Dizzy." I have The Real Ramona but I've only listened to it a couple of times. I like their first and I *love* The Fat Skier, which isn't an album, but an EP, sorta) > Cocteau Twins Treasure, Treasure, Treasure or Treasure. Or maybe Treasure. (You could forget about Garlands, then draw straws with the rest, but Treasure is the first CT album I got, and it's still my very favorite.) > Diamanda Galas You Must Be Certain Of The Devil (It's pretty scary, Yngve, but it's my favorite) > Concrete Blonde Draw straws, because they're all good. Bloodletting might be my favorite, unless I'm listening to one of the other ones, in which case that other one becomes my favorite) > Danielle Dax Dark Adapted Eye, *absolutely* (It's all you need, really. It's a perfect album. Everything else is patchy at best, gratingly annoying at worst.) > Dead Can Dance Draw straws. Whichever one I'm listening to becomes my favorite. > All About Eve Scarlett and Other Stories > Lene Lovich Flex, because it has "Bird Song" on it. It's by far my favorite. Stateless is good too. I hated, hated, *hated* the album March. > In addition to those I'm going to buy albums by : > > Heidi Berry The most recent, just called Heidi Berry > Rainbirds Two Faces > HEX (for sure!!!!!!!) Either, though I prefer the first one, just called Hex > Lisa Germano(If they got it yet) Either. Both are wonderful. Toss a coin. Get them both. > A.C. Marias (Not sure yet....How good is their "One Of Our Girls" album?) Very good. I like it mucho. > How is the album "Ripe" by Banderas? Patchy, but no terrible songs. I wouldn't pay a premium price for this if I were you. I do like it though and the good songs I like very, very much. > Bjork Definitely! > Grace Darling They only have one album and there are two versions of it. Either are highly recommended by me. I have both, just because the second version has 5 songs not on the first, though they had to cut 5 other songs to do it. :-( (They didn't really *have* to, so I don't know why they did) > T ---- Only In Your Eyes Lies Your Soul.............. > H | --- ----- ---- --- - -- - - - - - --- > E |-- | | | | | | |__| | | |_ > | | | | | |--- | | | | | > --- --- - - ---- - - - -- - - - --- --- > Yngve Hauge (yngveh@stud.cs.uit.no).....University of Tromsoe...Norway I *love* this .sig! Yngve, when you get a chance, tell us about your travels. Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 00:28:49 PDT From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Subject: Re: Bjork Ron Hogan writes: > I don't suppose I need to tell everybody that "When I Was a Boy" is pure > pop heaven, do I? Well, it would be if the lyrics weren't so deep. "Temple" is not going to become a top-40 hit. (Just watch it happen to spite me :-).) I'm not sure that I entirely like the occasional bits of backbeat that keep popping up in WIWaB, but the album is beginning to grow on me. If you can't stand backbeat but are willing to overlook it for a bit, the album is otherwise everything we've come to expect from Jane Siberry -- deep, complex, and quirky, but ultimately wonderful. ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 00:34:21 PDT From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Subject: Warning, Stephen King talk WretchAwry writes: > Corky Nemec as Harold Lauder > > I'm not going to judge the cast until I actually see the movie. Some > I'm looking forward too and some I'm wary about. The actors playing > the 4 major characters (Stu, Flagg, Harold & Larry) are unknowns, which > I think is a good sign. Actually, Corky (also Corin) Nemec was the star of the much-beloved and now defunct _Parker Lewis Can't Lose_ (well, much-beloved by me; I remember Angelos saying he could never develop a taste for the show). So they're not all unknowns. And now I'll have to watch it, since after PLCL I became very impressed with Corky's acting abilities and presence. He was also in some miniseries having to play little brother to a now ludicrously grown-up Ricky Schroeder and stole the show (he ended up shooting Ricky's character). The big problem with tachyons is that while two observers wouldn't experience too much weirdness by sending tachyonic messages back and forth, an outside observer in motion relative to them could observe that a message from one would appear to have been received by the other before it had been sent. This tends to make physicists uncomfortable. However, the mechanics of relativity tend to make everyone else uncomfortable, even though they appear to be absolutely true. I am at the point where I know the implications of certain parts of relativity theory but don't understand them at a deep level. While I'm here, I'll add one more item to the non-sequitur parade and announce that I will be in Seattle from September 9 to September 12. Seattle-area Ectophiles should e-mail me to arrange contact. I will be in town for the Wheels and Heels of Fire race, so I will be very busy Friday and Saturday in activities related to it, and have already started talking to another friend up there to arrange to visit with her, but I would love to meet you Seattleites as well. Wow, that was almost a Vickiesque run-on, although I could never match her ability to make them and make them interesting. ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 01:33:17 PDT From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: Re: Warning, Stephen King talk She-who-walks-between-the-rows stated cornily: >Gary Sinise as Stu Redman >Corky Nemec as Harold Lauder >The actors playing the four major characters ... are unknowns. Ahh, not so, my dear! Gary Sinise was the director and co-star (with John Malkovich) of last year's remake of "Of Mice and Men" (he played George). Corky Nemec is well-known to us Fox TV fans as the ineffable Parker Lewis in the very cool show, "Parker Lewis Can't Lose". I don't know the other two, however. D^2 ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 01:41:42 PDT From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: Self-sufficiency I was just wondering about this today. Do H&K make a living off of their music, or do they hold day jobs like the rest of us (well, *some* of the rest of us)? If they still work, what do they do? Somehow I can't picture Happy doing data entry or bussing tables. By the by, Angelos arrived safe and semi-sound here yesterday. We had Thai for dinner, and he gave me a present from Greece.. _Rhapsodies_, by Vangelis and Irene Papas (VERY hard to find in America!) He lives about five minutes from my place by scooter. D^2 ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 10:33:24 BST From: GTP10@phx.cam.ac.uk Subject: More American English Meredith said: > Erm, sorry, but what we Yanks call "biscuits" bear little > resemblance to what the Brits call cookies and the Aussies buns > (maybe :). Biscuits are a Southern concoction of flour, > buttermilk, and not much else that are either rolled out and > cut with a round cutter or dolloped onto a cookie sheet and > baked. The result is a light, fluffy, slightly sweet bread > thing that is out of this world, especially when still hot > from the oven and slathered in melting butter. Yum. :d This is true. However, the delicacy which we Brits call a scone (pronounced to rhyme with "on" or "own" depending on your upbringing) is very similar to the US biscuit. The ingredients are different but they do taste almost identical. In the UK the word cookie is used instead of biscuit when the comestible in question is clearly of US origin: thus we have chocolate chip cookies not chocolate chip biscuits for example. Geoff "soon to see the cool thing at O'Hare airport" Parks PS On my forthcoming trip to the US I was planning to pick up copies of RhodeSongs for myself and Terry (this being better for Happy promotionally than mail ordering them from the UK). Have any copies been sighted in stores yet, and can anyone advise me which chains in Nashville TN and Raleigh NC are likely to have copies? Thanks! ======================================================================== From: Tim Cook Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 10:42:54 BST Subject: Re: More American English > This is true. However, the delicacy which we Brits call a scone > (pronounced to rhyme with "on" or "own" depending on your upbringing) > is very similar to the US biscuit. The ingredients are different > but they do taste almost identical. Speaking as an afficionado of American breakfasts (especially the "as much as you can eat for 4 bucks" variety) biscuits are much lighter and fluffier than scones which are quite heavy and crumbly in texture. Depends who does the baking I s'pose but there's a breakfast place in Bowling Green that does the lightest and fluffiest of them all :) ======================================================================== From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk Subject: Re: Neile, Neile and other stories (fwd) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 11:17:50 BST Just a few moments ago I wrote: Forwarded message: > From slf Fri Aug 27 11:05:47 1993 > Subject: Re: Neile, Neile and other stories > To: U15289@UICVM (Translatable without software :-)) > Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 11:05:47 BST > Cc: ecto@pilot.njin.net > In-Reply-To: <9308252312.AA20386@pilot.njin.net>; from "Translatable without software :-)" at Aug 25, 93 5:32 pm > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > > On Wed, 25 Aug 93 at 17:32:33 CDT "Translatable without software :-)" wrote: ... bulk of posting deleted ... Mitch, have you any *IDEA* of the trouble the "unbalanced )" in your address, caused by the smilie, gave to the mail system here? OK, I could have edited the address rather than mechanically replying to the address received but, being a Unix neophyte, it wouldn't have occured to me that the "(" and ")" wouldn't match and that this would lead to messages being fired off to postmasters all over BNR Europe. :-) I assume that since it was cc'd to Ecto the posting made it out OK. The moral of this story is to take care not to trust the addresses generated by Mr. "Different name everytime I post" Of course the real reason I'm so upset is that it revealed that I was replying to Ecto mail in the middle of the morning when I should be working! FX: sound of wrist being slapped. -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk Subject: Re: Neile, Neile and other stories Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 11:05:47 BST On Wed, 25 Aug 93 at 17:32:33 CDT "Translatable without software :-)" wrote: > WRT Steve Fagg's post yesterday on the stumbling blocks to listening to the > 1993 HBP tapes: Seems to me that anyone in Steve's predicament should arrange > in advance to keep the 1991 HGP tapes, the ones that started it all, easily > at hand, in order to be able to cue up the most appropriate track of all for > these situations: Greg and Jessica's cover of "Moving." :-) Curse me for an unobservant wally. I *HAD* actually done this, without ever catching the significance of the title of "Moving", even while singing (I use the term loosely!) along to it while struggling to put my bed together. Knowing I would be sometime without access to my stereo I had purchased a portable cassette player and kept back from the packing the two 1991 HGP tapes, Vickie's Ecto SiG, and a tape of "Equipoise". These four tapes have had some pretty heavy rotation this last week! I said at the time I first got the tapes, but I think it bears repeating, that I really adore Jessica's voice on "Moving". If I find that song playing in my head, then I've found it's more likely to be the Ecto Godess Lady's voice I'm hearing than KaTe's. I think it has to do with the understated arrangement focussing attention on the voice. The whole HGP set bears up remarkably well to repeated listening. On current projections I should get to hear the 1993 HBP sometime on Sunday evening! P.S. heard "Rubberband Girl" for the first time on Virgin yesterday. Didn't listen too closely (too busy manhandling bookcases about the lounge) but it didn't come over as powerfully as "Ken" to which I have heard it compared. P.P.S. > Happy birthday to Leonard Bernstein, wherever you are. Seconded! -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk Subject: Re: Neile, Neile and other stories Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 11:25:51 BST On Wed, 25 Aug 93 at 17:32:33 CDT "Translatable without software :-)" wrote: > WRT Steve Fagg's post yesterday on the stumbling blocks to listening to the > 1993 HBP tapes: Seems to me that anyone in Steve's predicament should arrange > in advance to keep the 1991 HGP tapes, the ones that started it all, easily > at hand, in order to be able to cue up the most appropriate track of all for > these situations: Greg and Jessica's cover of "Moving." :-) Curse me for an unobservant wally. I *HAD* actually done this, without ever catching the significance of the title of "Moving", even while singing (I use the term loosely!) along to it while struggling to put my bed together. Knowing I would be sometime without access to my stereo I had purchased a portable cassette player and kept back from the packing the two 1991 HGP tapes, Vickie's Ecto SiG, and a tape of "Equipoise". These four tapes have had some pretty heavy rotation this last week! I said at the time I first got the tapes, but I think it bears repeating, that I really adore Jessica's voice on "Moving". If I find that song playing in my head, then I've found it's more likely to be the Ecto Godess Lady's voice I'm hearing than KaTe's. I think it has to do with the understated arrangement focussing attention on the voice. The whole HGP set bears up remarkably well to repeated listening. On current projections I should get to hear the 1993 HBP sometime on Sunday evening! P.S. heard "Rubberband Girl" for the first time on Virgin yesterday. Didn't listen too closely (too busy manhandling bookcases about the lounge) but it didn't come over as powerfully as "Ken" to which I have heard it compared. P.P.S. > Happy birthday to Leonard Bernstein, wherever you are. Seconded! -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 22:13 EDT From: robert@deepspace.nj00802.sai.com (Robert Lovejoy) Subject: Re: I before E > > What do Liege and Lief mean anyways? > -mjm > Lessee, um, Leige is a superior: "Yes, my Liege!"...kinda like lord. And Lief is the first name of the guy who really discovered America, the famous Mr. Erikson. Hope that helps! Just saw "The Fugitive". Wow, loved it! I was on the edge of my seat all the way through. Terrific views of Chicago, too. Glad to see Christo safely and happily esconced in the Netherlands! Thanks for the kind words! The puppy is fine. Tonight we went to the Outback Steakhouse and thought of you!! What kind of shortwave did you get and did the list we printed help? I'll mail your package shortly, please stand by! And nobody has yet claimed "Shaking The Tree"... Apologies all around for the tachyon post. Sometimes being silly is great fun. Looking forward to future silliness, I remain Bob the tacky one ***ECTO*** The list that told Happy Rhodes to Go Fly A Kite! and, loving it! Farewell, my Liege... -foop- ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 7:12 EDT From: robert@deepspace.nj00802.sai.com (Robert Lovejoy) Subject: Re: Self-sufficiency > > I was just wondering about this today. Do H&K make a living off of their > music, or do they hold day jobs like the rest of us (well, *some* of the > rest of us)? If they still work, what do they do? Somehow I can't > picture Happy doing data entry or bussing tables. > Dave, Kevin does lots of music for television. He has composed for HBO and Sesame Street, as well as numerous commercials. It was one of those bits of ectosynchronicity that when I met him, he mentioned working in Boston with an old friend of mine! I'm pretty sure Happy is full-time Happy, though the Vickster knows the Hapster more than any of us. By the way, the picture on the newsletter of her flying the kite reminds me of one of Peter Gabriel's costumes from the early Genesis era! Bob ======================================================================== Subject: oops Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 07:43:32 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Remind me not to compose messages off line... I wrote the following last night whilst waiting to be able to use the phone line. I then managed to go to bed without actually uploading it and sending it to Ecto. I just got back from seeing the Divine Bette Midler (when did it stop being Miss M?). Tres fabu'! In a stunning show of ectosynchricity, she sang a portion of mjm's oft-queried-about "Macarthur Park." Dunno how much more touring Bette's doing or if she's all sold out everywhere, but this is a *great* show. Loads of stand-up schtick, great music, and though she did perform serious renditions of them, she did spend a *lot* of time harping about the horrible schmaltziness of the ballads for which she's best known these days. And besides, who can resist mermaids in electric wheelchairs? Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "When I look in the mirror, I see a little clearer/ | |SAFH Lite [tm] | I am what I am and you are you too./ Do you like | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | what you see? Do you like yourself?" --N. Cherry | ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 08:50:35 EDT From: ksilver@engr.startek.com (Keith Silver) Subject: ooivletce!! Kelly pleads: >please take pity on me and tell me what an acolyte is a low calorie aco. ======================================================================== Subject: Roger Eno/Kate St. John Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 10:59:36 PDT From: "Gary Nichols" Hello all!! I've just heard the new Roger Eno/Kate St. John CD. I highly highly highly highly highly highly highly highly highly highly highly recommmend it!!!!! It's the best I've ever heard REno come up with! For those who don't know already, REno is BEno's (little?) brother. I don't know where Kate St. John comes from, but her voice is very nice, and she wrote all the lyrics and played oboe and cor anglais (somebody tell me what this is). REno plays piano (his usual instrument), as well as accordian, euphonium, bass, Korg MI. The other players cover viola, cello, double bass, clarinet, violins, percussion. The music is rich and full, and reminds me a little less of Harrold Budd than REno used to. Try it, you'll like it! gary n ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)