Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #700 ecto, Number 700 Friday, 13 August 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* more Re: (none) Re: Champagne Jam, 8/10/93 EctoForm scans! the kite gifs :) Jan Arden Jann Arden HaPpY Birthday Re: Hopscotching the posts for grist Re: your mail Re: EctoForm scans! Covers and Producers Re: Lookie what I found! EctoForm scans!!! indie record labels ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 Aug 93 23:36:19 EDT From: jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu (jessica) Subject: more While i'm babbling.. I've changed my hair again. it's dark, and kind of reddish/burgundy-ish. it's got bangs in the front, the side is cut at an angle so it's shorter in the back coming down to longer points in the front, and the back is cut in a straight line across the middle, shaved below that. Thought I might as well let you all know.. :) jessica ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 21:35:36 +1000 (AEST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: (none) In apana.lists.rec.happy-rhodes, article <01H1MVL832628Y6DMJ@delphi.com>, you wrote: > }* On one single song, Jane manages to sound like herself, Happy, > }Ingrid, Kate, and the woman who sang for Black Box. Versatility > }rules. :) > > I trust you aren't talking about Ingrid Karklins. ;) :-) No... I was actually referring to the wonderful and sadly very quiet release-wise Ingrid Chavez, poetess, songstress and the only decent thing to come out on Paisley Park records in years... (Incidentally, did you ever manage to get Ingrid K to autograph her CD for me? :-) > Which song is that? "An Angel Stepped Down (and slowly looked around)" There are additional vocalist credits on this track, actually, so the Black Box voice may not be Jane... :-) > Anthony (the real one ;) writes: As opposed to the virtual one? :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 21:37:14 +1000 (AEST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Champagne Jam, 8/10/93 In apana.lists.rec.happy-rhodes, article <01H1MVBS9W788Y6DMJ@delphi.com>, you wrote: > Anthony Horan, have you heard of Michaelangelo And The Ceiling? They're > from Melbourne, and their song was on a sampler of Melbourne artists. Actually, no I haven't! What was the sampler? If it was one of the "Nu-music" samplers, that may explain it... :) What were they like? They certainly don't seem to be doing any live work around town at the moment... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Subject: EctoForm scans! Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 00:36:06 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Mike has just provided the first two scans of the EctoForm. Both are rather tiny GIFs in 8-bit color. The first, eform1.gif is a picture of me, wearing my Ecto t-shirt and holding the kite open just below the graphic on the shirt. This provides the clearest view of the entire kite. I believe the resolution is around 190x250 (no, I don't remember and I'm too lazy to check again. I'm *tired*!). The other pic, eform2.gif, is a picture of the kite flying and is ~180x180-ish. Both pics have been mailed to Jessica and she's theoretically put them in the archives (hardees.rutgers.edu). If you can't handle FTP I'll mail you uuencoded copies. Jeff (hoping that the Ectophiles won't be seeing the kite before Happy does... anybody heard whether or not she's gotten the package?!) |Jeffrey C. Burka | "When I look in the mirror, I see a little clearer/ | |SAFH Lite [tm] | I am what I am and you are you too./ Do you like | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | what you see? Do you like yourself?" --N. Cherry | ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 00:43:01 EDT From: jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu (jessica) Subject: the kite gifs :) The gifs are in the archives.. in the gifs/Misc directory. I also installed 2x and smmoothed copies which I made while looking at them :) It looks *fabulous* jeff!!! jessica ======================================================================== Subject: Jan Arden From: Tim Breitkreutz Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 23:59:52 -0600 Meth sez: > Also of interest was another ad further in, for an album by > someone (purported to be a Canadian singer/songwriter) named > Jann Arden, called _Time For Mercy_. There's an 800 number > to call to get a free sampler of her stuff... anybody out > there heard of her? I'm going to call and see if I can get Well, according to my roomie (who's looking at Ecto for the first time over my shoulder right now :) she's got a popular video here in Canada (MuchMusic) with three lines worth of lyrics called "I Would Die For You." Catchy hook, boring song, he sez. ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 23:29:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Neile Graham Subject: Jann Arden I had a listen to her disc at a local cd store and wasn't too impressed--a little too soft pop for my tastes, though nicely produced (I thought at the time at least, but I will defer to better-educated musical tastes than mine). Anyway, it wasn't a must-buy for me, but didn't someone from the U.K. (sorry I can't remember who) send mail saying they loved it a couple of weeks ago? --Neile neilae@u.washington.edu ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 08:14:08 +0100 From: Terry Partis Subject: HaPpY Birthday Here's wishing a VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Vickie Mapes on August 15th. Have a GREAT day Vickie, in fact have a great year Vickie. Peace Terry === Only in your eyes lies your soul ========================= Happy Rhodes === _ __ Jolly Hockeysticks _ __ / `-' ( ,,, / `-' ( ,,, | I I ||||||[:::] Terry (Tel Boy) Partis | I I ||||||[:::] \_.-._( ''' (tgp@ukc.ac.uk) \_.-._( ''' With a smile and a song - I'm HaPpy Let me sleep awhile and dream of Avalon and the Beltane fires.................. ............................................our souls entwined for all eternity ======================================================================== From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk Subject: Re: Hopscotching the posts for grist Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 12:23:12 BST On Thu, 12 Aug 93 at 15:51:23 CDT Serious but Offbeat wrote: > Steve Fagg says: > >> [...] Klaus is currently on >> GMT+2 (as is most of Europe, except that Eire, the UK, & Portugal are >> on GMT+1) that's six hours ahead of the East Coast. > > In the long run, it would make sense to stay on top of when different countries > switch between standard and daylight saving time. In a few months the UK and > the continent will revert to GMT and GMT+1, respectively (even I was confused > initially by the above explanation of British Summer Time), but the transition > dates may or may not be the same everywhere. This could, in the worst case, > make the pickings even slimmer than at present for real-time talk buffs. I would find it very impressive if anybody could really "stay on top of" all the variations in daylight/standard time changes. Just in my little corner of Western Europe we have a crazy mixture. For example: as I said above, we are all currently on "summer" (aka "daylight") time. On October 24th the UK & Eire will revert to standard time (which for them is GMT). A month earlier (or is it later?) continental Europe will change back to standard time. Portugal moves on the same date as the rest of the mainland, but is an hour behind them at all times. This means that during the overlap UK will either be on the same time as most of continental Europe (and an hour ahead of Portugal) or two hours behind most of continental Europe (but only one hour behind Portugal). Whichever way round it is, the reverse situation obtains in the spring, when again the UK moves to summer time a month before or after the continent. There have been mutterings about the UK adopting European time. I only hope that if we do, we change between standard and summer time on the same dates, because not doing that causes far more confusion than the different time zones alone! -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk Subject: Re: your mail Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 12:28:11 BST On Thu, 12 Aug 93 at 22:02:48 EDT woj@remus.rutgers.edu (some cool guy from the internet) wrote: > Suspended In Duct Tape sez: > >Has anyone heard of Ecstasy of St. Theresa? > > yup - they are from czechoslovakia, prague specifically (um, is that in > slovakia or the czech republic?). Prague is the capital of the Czech Republic. I've no idea which city is capital of Slovakia. -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk Subject: Re: EctoForm scans! Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 12:35:56 BST On Fri, 13 Aug 93 at 00:36:06 -0400 jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu wrote: > Both pics have been mailed to Jessica and she's theoretically put them in > the archives (hardees.rutgers.edu). If you can't handle FTP I'll mail > you uuencoded copies. Does anybody have an IP address for the archive machine? -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 15:01:04 MEZ From: Dirk Kastens Subject: Covers and Producers Hi, phew, I'm up-to-date with the digests, again. I like to throw in my opinion about covers and producers: COVERS: I'm convinced that the monsters are responsible for the commercial failure of Happy's albums, esp. =P. An album is a product and the cover is the packing of the product. The packing is the optical representation of the product and shall stimulate the customer to buy the product. Imagine yourself entering a perfumery and standing in front of a long shelf full of small scent-bottles. You will first grab the most interesting looking bottle and try the scent of the perfume. You'll never try a bottle with a monster on it, will you? I'm often entering a record store without any idea what to buy. Then I'm cluelessly searching through the bins and my only lead are the covers. (I love most of the 4AD or David Sylvian's covers) It's very annoying that the cover of Y Kant Tori Read prevented me from buying it a few years ago :-( I held it in my hands but I thought "No, this can't be good, it looks cheap." We all know the concept behind Happy's covers but monsters are definitely allied to heavy metal and will mislead customers and clerks. PRODUCERS: First of all I must say that =P sounds different from other albums. The sound is too direct, clean and artificial, IMO, it has no room. Take Cassell Webb's Llano, for instance, and esp. the song Wandering One: the sound and the dynamic are only indifferent but it has this room, this special atmosphere and this little bit of dirt. I think this is what Tim called the "soul" of an album. Cohabitants would sound so much better if it was more "dirty". This is what a well-experienced producer could do: to give Happy's albums the proper room and a dense and exciting atmosphere without changing the music. He could be a big help if she wants to let a rhythm groove or if she thinks the sound is flat or if she wants to add weird noises, etc. "Room" is meant in the sense of "acoustic room" wich gives a sound its density and diffusion. If you connect a synthesizer directly to the mixing console the sound won't have any room. You can add the room artificially using an effect unit (reverb, delay) or you can send the sound through speakers and pick it up with microphones to record all the reflections produced by the room. Finally I'm asking myself: why are Peter Gabriel, Sting or Phil Collins being produced? Greetings, Dirk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ || \\\\\ || ///// | dkastens@dosuni1.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE || ))))) IRK || ((((( ASTENS | "Music's the way, the only way I know" || ///// || \\\\\ | Happy Rhodes ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ======================================================================== From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk Subject: Re: Lookie what I found! Date: Wed, 4 Aug 93 15:02:38 BST On Wed, 4 Aug 1993 at 13:25:25 GMT heath@iceblink.cs.jhu.edu (Dave Heath) wrote: .. stuff about Vickie's being a net.godess deleted ... > Anyway, I was wondering, is there someone at Mammoth that we can write > to in order to convince them that there are people out there waiting for > her first album to be re-released? Maybe if they received a bunch of > letters, it would carry more weight. Good idea! Perhaps a few letters might convince them they would sell some of these albums on CD. Mind you, if they couldn't work that out for themselves, will they be able to work it out from their postbag? Can't do any harm to try, though. How's about it Vickie? Why not give out the Head Mammoth's name & address so that interested parties can write in and ask (politely now, people!) if they'd be so kind as to consider releasing the Victoria Williams albums on CD? -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 10:01:58 -0700 From: Michael G Peskura Subject: EctoForm scans!!! Jeffrey, Wow! I'm impressed! You have done a wonderful job on the kite, and i'm sure Happy will LOVE it. And, thank you, Jessica, for helping us See The Kite! Bravo!! Mp Michael Peskura -- University of Washington -- Seattle mpeskura@cac.washington.edu ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 12:18:00 CDT From: todd@mudbug (Todd Mullins) Subject: indie record labels hello. i've been informed that "the Happy Rhodes mailing list has compiled a list of indy labels and addresses...". i'd certainly be interested in any such information you could pass my way. (that goes for your mailing list, too.) thank you. -todd todd@mudbug.nrlssc.navy.mil ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)