Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #693 ecto, Number 693 Tuesday, 10 August 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Happa Her Bday brni :-( brni IRC, BJoRk, JAne Tribe etc. brni Jane Siberry. Wonderful. Bliss. Heaven. But you knew that... Jane 'n Betty A poll in rec.music.misc apologies Calling for an Ectophile Canadian or two... Re: brni Tribe ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 21:59:38 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Happa Her Bday HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Happy Rhodes!! "My ears are lucky to hear these glorious songs..." Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 22:01:05 EDT From: jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu (jessica) Subject: brni eek! how awful :( we had great fun playing music with brni at the katemas party. (it's too bad he lives in philly - we need a new bass player for our band, as our previous one has just moved back to texas). I hope his arm gets better very quickly! jessica ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 22:01:55 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: :-( brni Thank you Bob, for passing along the information about brni. :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 09 Aug 93 21:58:07 CST From: kiir Subject: IRC, BJoRk, JAne Hey Tim, I Irc frequently. Look for me under the nick Brier. I usually hang on a rather perverse channel, but I would be more than happy to do the #ecto thang... :) Court and I went record shopping and picked up the new Jane, and Bjork. The Bjork is excellent, and for me is the most easily assimilated into my brain. Jane is AWESOME, but a little more difficult to get into....Gospel According to Darkness has really penetrated though - what an intensely cool song. More later...i am holding Bjork now while Court is getting into Jane, then we'll swap, unless i decide i can afford jane too :) We also picked up *another* cat. Court is lending me her Storm, because he gets along with my cat Boo really well, and she is keeping her Lady, so she needs another....well anyway we *found* Latigo today. She is a very beautiful, very affectionate 3 year old half himalayan long haired black beauty. She was abandoned and picked up by a neighbor, the neighbor was going to keep her, but the son developed a severe allergy. The neighbor left her at a boarding house, paid for it to live there until she could go to a loving home....so now it's going to live in Court's home. We are both very excited. all for now kiri ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1993 22:50:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Tribe etc. Hi! An almost-belated Happy Birthday to Ms. Rhodes herself. I hope she got the present in time! Last night I was lucky enough to be in attendance as Tribe played at Toad's Place. They opened for The Odds, but no one cared about them, they were all there to see Tribe! I've never seen an opening act called back for an encore before. :) They were really really good, although Terri (lead singer's) sex kitten antics up on stage grated on me after a not-so-little while. Sorry, but that sort of thing really turns me off. But the music was great, so all in all I couldn't complain. Afterwards we (woj, footah, Jess, myself and a friend of footah and Jess' who managed to get in even though she's not 21) met the band, who are a great bunch of people. I was shocked to learn that not only is Greg LoPiccolo, the bassist, a 1983 Wesleyan graduate, but he was also a DJ at WESU and, as if that weren't enough, he majored in the same thing as me (German) and took the same Experimental Music courses, with the same people! At least we didn't have the same advisor. I really would have lost it then. It was all too weird for me as it was. I'm going to push the WESU Bored to get Tribe to play on campus this fall- Greg confessed it's something he'd really be into doing, and I think I might actually be able to stir up some interest, especially if I push the Wesleyan connection to the band. Watch this space for details, should any emerge. :) Speaking of pushing, Mitch explains: }Personal to Meredith: The weather and sports crawls are the }closest things _World News Now_ has to NPR's inimitable buttons }and zippers. The same logic should, in the best case, work on }both news organizations WRT why they should play Happy's music }in these situations. Gotcha. I heard an interview with Liz Phair at the end of All Things Considered today, and my resolve is now as firm as ever to get Happy on there... but I think I should get the phone number and a viable contact name at NPR, and then hand the info over to Susanne for action. The last thing I would want to do would be to blindside Happy with something like an NPR appearance when she may not be prepared or willing to do such a thing... who knows? I'll offer to help Susanne by getting in contact with the folks at NPR myself- if she says yes, then I can say with honesty that I am calling on behalf of Happy's management, and they'll be much more likely to listen to me over there. Mitch, if you are lucky in getting a name and number to contact at World News Now, let me know, and I'll pass them on to Susanne as well. (Stupid Question Warning: What network/channel is World News Now on, and when?) Tamar points out: }It was indeed someone in my lab who called Ingrid Karklins "that }ethereal Latvian shit", but I will add that the last two }concerts that this person went to were Extreme and Van Halen. }Need I say more? Not a thing. :) Hey Tamar, you really missed a good show last night, where the hell were you??? Meredith meth@delphi.com ================================================================= "each in our own boat each in our own thoughts sometimes you could hear people talking amongst themselves but (someone had a boat with wheels and I said you're a bit early but i know how you feel) but mostly it was just silence "and the silence only broken by the absence of the clinking of the masts and every now and then a bird would not fly by and someone would look up and say- what wasn't that?" - Jane Siberry, "At The Beginning of Time" ================================================================= ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1993 22:54:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: brni Hi again... Thanks for posting that, Bob. Once again, the Ecto Support Network springs into action! :( Hmmm.... maybe if people want to send wishes his way we could all send them via e-mail to a central location (like, maybe my account) and somebody (like, me) could gather them all up and send him one big message to greet him when he comes back to the net, kind of a "welcome back" sort of thing. Thoughts? Ideas? Messages? You know the address... Meredith meth@delphi.com ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 00:23:14 +1000 (AEST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Jane Siberry. Wonderful. Bliss. Heaven. But you knew that... After much searching around Melbourne, during which the dialogue went like this: ME: Got the new Jane Siberry album? THEM: Who? ME: Jane Siberry. She's a Canadian singer/songwriter, her new album came out a few weeks ago on Warner/Reprise in the US. THEM: Oh. Hang on... (rummage)... Ah, what sort of music is it? ME: Oh, you know, kind of ethereal female vocal meets Ingrid Chavez meets the Eno school of tape looping... THEM, PULLING FACE: Oh, then I don't think we'd get that in. ...I finally found a store that stocked "When I Was A Boy", which I've been hankering to buy thanks to the undiluted praise and adoration it's been receiving here. AND YOU WERE RIGHT! Vickie and Meri, and everyone else, thanks for mentioning this one. I've only played it twice so far, but I like this album a lot. It's stuck in my CD player at the moment, and will no doubt be there to the exclusion of all else for a while... :) If Reprise can sign an artist and let them release individual music like this, seemingly un-interfered with, then maybe there's a path to the major labels for Happy yet... Salient points: * Beautiful cover artwork. White CD tray a nice idea. Don't you Americans have those strange-o longboxes any more, though? * Has anyone spotted the blatant sample from Tears For Fears' "Mad World" toward the end and during the fade out of "All The Candles In The World"? * Nobody whispers quite like Jane, I think. No, not even Ingrid Chavez. Who incidentally seems to have been dropped by Warner, but that's another story... * For a recluse, Brian Eno gets around a fair bit these days... * On one single song, Jane manages to sound like herself, Happy, Ingrid, Kate, and the woman who sang for Black Box. Versatility rules. :) I think I'll have to borrow a phrase from Vickie.... Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm YES! :-) Back to your regular scheduled transmission y'all.... Anthony ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Subject: Jane 'n Betty Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 00:24:09 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu After listening to it a bunch of times and going ooh and ahh and ooh and ahh and ohhhh, I finally settled down to wading my way through the WIWaB liner notes. The first pleasantry was the recurrence of the name Anne Bourne, cellist. She's worked with Jane before, but the last time I saw/heard of Ms Bourne, she was on tour with Loreena McKennitt. Then I started going through the UUUUUthank-yousOOOOOs and was *real* happy to see the names "amy, bitzi, and allison listed." This was obviously Jane's show of appreciation for Betty's wonderful "D.C. Dog" from their album _Hello, BETTY!_ ("Git along little doggie, git along. / Hey, Jane, can we get a dog?") It's mid-August. Why were the liner notes written in MARCH?!!! Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "When I look in the mirror, I see a little clearer/ | |SAFH Lite [tm] | I am what I am and you are you too./ Do you like | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | what you see? Do you like yourself?" --N. Cherry | ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 00:30:40 EDT From: vickie@pilot.njin.net (Vickie Mapes) Subject: A poll in rec.music.misc This appeared in rec.music.misc...so far, Mylene Farmer (cough cough) is in the lead. We have to change that! (Note: this is *NOT* MY poll. Please do not send responses to me, Vickie) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I'm so pissed at how the last top 5 was done, and how incorrectly it was done to come with a complete list, I'd like to do this again! Here's the deal! List your top 10 female artists in order. Name and then band if any in brackets next to it. #1 receives 100 points #2 receives 90 points and so on. #10 receives 10 points and after that you may list honorable mentions for 5 points each. This will end when it ends. Send all responses to either this newsgroup or me at pap3dam@cabell.vcu.edu. Doesnt matter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ which. Lets just keep the titles similar please. Here's mine: #1 Karen Peris (The Innocence Mission) #2 Natalie Merchant (10,000 Maniacs) #3 Harriet Wheeler (The Sundays) #4 Tanya Donelly (Belly, The Breeders) #5 Beth Sorrentino (Suddenly, Tammy!) #6 Edie Brickell #7 Carol Decker (T'Pau) #8 Olivia Newton John #9 Bjork (The Sugarcubes) #10 Chrissy Hynde (The Pretenders) HM - Amy Grant, Stevie Nick (Fleetwood Mac), Aimee Mann (Til' Tuesday), Pat Benatar, Karin Bergquist (Over The Rhine), Caroline Crawly (Shelleyan Orphan), Siouxsie Sioux, (Lush singer), (Cranberries singer). That's it. I'll periodically send out updates as well to let everyone know what's going on. Also dont hesitate to give comments. David ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 00:39:35 EDT From: vickie@pilot.njin.net (Vickie Mapes) Subject: apologies About that poll, I sent it too quickly. I didn't mean to imply that we have to stuff ballot boxes *just* to get Mylene Farmer out of 1st place. I would just like to get Happy closer to the top. Sure, I happen to think that Mylene Farmer sucks (nice videos though!) but I wouldn't kick her butt if I met her, *or* throw Happy votes at her just to get her out of the top. Happy has to be up there because *we* think she *deserves* to be there. Nothing personal, Mylene. :-) (vote early, vote often!) Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 21:57:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Neile Graham Subject: Calling for an Ectophile Canadian or two... ...with a good music collection. A long, long time ago Vickie & I were going to make a Canadian sampler tape for the tape dubbing project and never got around to it. Today I started to make one for myself, then I thought, hey, I could send *this* to the project. However, I got 1 full 100 min. tape and about a quarter of the second. I'm sure there's more Canadian music out there that should be on this, and so I'm looking for a volunteer or two to add more Canadian cuts to finish the second tape (about 65-70 mins left.) Any volunteers? Here's the track listing so far: Side A: Meryn Cadell - Secret (Angel Food for Thought) Sara Craig - Aspiring To (Sara Craig E.P.) Dalbello - Gonna Get Close To You (Whoman Foursays) - Tango (She) Mecca Normal - Taking The Back Stairs (Water Cuts My Hands) Martha and the Muffins - Echo Beach (Metro Music) - To Dream About You (Modern Lullaby) Crash Vegas - Julia Rain (Red Earth) Joni Mitchell - In France They Kiss on Main Street (Hissing of Summer Lawns) Bruce Cockburn - If I Had a Rocket Launcher (Stealing Fire) Kate & Anna McGarrigle - Southern Boys (Dancer With Bruised Knees) - I Eat Dinner (Heartbeats Accelerating) Leslie Spit Treeo - Angry Lifetime (Book of Rejection) - River Through My Fire (Book of Rejection) Side B: Holly Cole Trio - Trust in Me (Blame It on My Youth) Jane Siberry - An Angel Stepped Down (When I Was A Boy) - The Mystery at Ogwen's Farm (Jane Siberry) Crash Test Dummies - Superman's Song (The Ghosts That Haunt Me) Fat Man Waving - (Ain't No More) Train to Ride (Parade) Gogh Van Go - Bed Where We Hide (Gogh Van Go) Mae Moore - Bohemia (Bohemia) Scott Merritt - Violet and Black (Violet and Black) Figgy Duff - Sweet Temptation (Downstream) Loreena McKennitt - Standing Stones (Parallel Dreams) Sarah McLachlan - Gloomy Sunday (Drawn to the Rhythm single) John & Mary - Clare's Scarf (The Weedkiller's Daughter) Start of Side C: Mary Margaret O'Hara - Year In Song (Miss America) - My Friends Have (Miss America) Leonard Cohen - Famous Blue Raincoat (Songs of Love & Hate) Ferron - White Wing Mercy (Phantom Center) Kashtin - E Uassiuian / Mon Enfance (Kashtin) Single Gun Theory - Can't Say That (Exorcise This Wasteland) Spirit of the West - Political (Labour Day) - d for demoncracy (scour the house) (Go Figure) Let me know and I'll mail the tape to you. --Neile neile@u.washington.edu ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 1:07:18 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: brni Meredith writes: > Hmmm.... maybe if people want to send wishes his way we could all send > them via e-mail to a central location (like, maybe my account) and somebody > (like, me) could gather them all up and send him one big message to greet > him when he comes back to the net, kind of a "welcome back" sort of thing. > Thoughts? Ideas? Messages? You know the address... Is there someone who can take messages, print them out and send them to brni *now*? A "welcome back" message is a great idea, but it would also be nice to let him know that we're thinking of him now. I can't do it, I'm sorry, but I've got a message all ready to send to someone who can. Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 21:59:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Neile Graham Subject: Tribe At a local used disc store I found a Tribe disc I'd never heard of. It's called _Here at the Home_ and was put out by Rutabaga Records in 1990. About half of the songs also appear on _Abort_. I'm wondering if this is a rarity or not (maybe I should just email them). A question about Caterwaul: Does anyone know if it might be possible to find a copy of _The Nature of Things_ on disc somewhere? I know if was a cut out, I'm just wondering if someone (meaning Caterwaul themselves or the record company) might have saved a couple. I tried writing to Lost Arts Records and got it back saying the forwarding order had expired (no helpful address included :( ). I tried Chameleon Music Group and got that back, too. Does anyone have an address for the band?? Aside to Meth: did anyone point out to you in rec.arts.sf.written they were having a discussion about whether Judith's books exhibited radical feminism or not? Finally someone said that if anyone was considered superior in her fiction it wasn't men or women but was horses...Heh. --Neile neile@u.washington.edu ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)